User talk:Gnevin/archive 2

Waterford Senior Club Hurling Championship move request
Hi. Sorry if my comment at WP:RM was cryptic. I've just now looked more carefully and realized there isn't any problem completing the move after all, so I'll just do it. I thought there was some content at the target page that would have to be merged into the article we're keeping before moving the article, but now I see that's not the case. I'll complete the move now. -GTBacchus(talk) 08:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Week
The best existing proposal I can, in my own limited way, think of for the previously discussed "appreciation week" can now be found at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week. Any comments or responses would be more than welcome. And, if you are having any trouble with any specifically project related activity, like banners or whatever, let me know personally and I'll see what I can do. Badbilltucker 15:12, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Cork GAA honours
I have added a "" template to the article Cork GAA honours, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Rintrah 17:06, 9 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I removed the prod when I did the merge which you undid, so I've restored it. I left a note at Talk:Cork GAA honours. A merge seems perfectly reasonable. There's no reason to stick to a 32k limit these days. Cheers, Angus McLellan (Talk) 19:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Peter Canavan peer review
I've added a few more things to Peter Canavan, if you want to have a look at it. There is probably a lot more I could add, but I actually think it's getting too long now. I don't know the procedure for peer review, do you just add the tag??--Macca7174 15:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. It's done now. Did you have a look at the changes to the articles since you first mentioned it? Were they relevant, you think?--Macca7174 18:19, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I've noticed you were fixing some of the longer links on the Peter Canavan page - something I was just about to do. I was going to tell you about TinyURl, but you have already changed it. What is the problem with using TinyUrl??--Macca7174 16:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

P.S. - still no fecking feedback...
 * Yeah, sorry. I would have helped you, but we would have kept having edit conflicts. Good work though. Thanks.--Macca7174 17:03, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I have made major revisions to the Peter Canavan article, could you check it for typos, or bad markups etc?? I think its much closer to GA status - actually I would be surprised if it failed--Macca7174 14:08, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Cheers. I think its good to go though. I've renominated it for GA, so any niggling errors would most likely be sorted out there.--Macca7174 10:08, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, go here for excellent feedback on Peter's GA candidacy. And I am going to need help. :p--Macca7174 20:01, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

PP
Good revert on the PP page. Articles like these often become the carriers of pov for editors carrying chips. That's what all the fuss was about last week, I guess! Cornhat 17:17, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

RE: Barnstar
Hi thanks for the Barnstar. Much appreiciated. Derry Boi 23:14, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

List Of Haunted Locations
LOL, maybe your PC is haunted. ;-) But seriously, from reading some of the entries in the article, such as " an alleged ghost (a different type), is in a home known as "BHOOTHATHAANKOTTA" near karumathra. It supposedly changes the location of a person who is sleeping in the cought to the floor during night"...I think this article is a magnet for every unverified ghost story and promotional huckster on the planet. I counted at least 5 separate places which claim to be "the most haunted location in the US". --- LuckyLouie 00:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Milligoon
I can source it, in theory, but not for the time being coz I don't have his biogrpahy with me. :p--Crestville 10:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I've got it. Ask me for a page number anytime. andreasegde 18:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I interrupted a conversation you were having with Crestville by saying/thinking that you were talking about Spike Milligan. Forgive me if I got it wrong. andreasegde 19:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

AFD nominations
I am not disputing the importance of the games; I am saying that not every player is notable and/or deserves a page; one of the ones I nominated didn't even play in the game for which he was included. There are plenty of red-linked names (for whom no page was ever created) in the Tyrone Panel, for example, to back up what I am saying.El chulito 16:24, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

AWB bugs
Hi Gnevin: it would be great if you could resubmit the bugs in AWB to the new bug reporting page, Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs. There they can be dealt with easier and kept track of easier too. Thanks! — Mets501 (talk) 01:44, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Sligo Senior/Intermediate Championship histories
Gnevin,

Want to post up a year-by-year history of the above Championships. Any help in posting these up would be appreciated.

PS Can you tidy up the Sligo logo on the existing Sligo Championship page. Put up the image but could not get rid of the {image} indicators either side. Something of a novice Wikipedian!

Regards, OMS. Owenmoresider 00:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, a year-by-year record. I have the SFC results dating back 50 years, and the IFC since it began in 1979, and have them linked to each year (see the All-Ireland Hurling Championship as an example). I guess the existing page is as good as any to link up to!Owenmoresider 00:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * That's the one. If it's possible you could set that up on the existing Championship page, I'll link the 2006 page to it when I'm done. Also, where the years are included on the roll of honour/history, the year could link to that particular Championship. But that can wait for now. Owenmoresider 01:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Cheers. I'll post up 2006 tonight and the rest over the weekend. I'll post here again if I need any further help. Owenmoresider 01:43, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Gnevin, a few things: You might edit that year-by-year template, as it refers to 'Sligo Football Championship' and not Senior, Intermediate or Junior. Can't get the 2006 SFC page from that bar as a result. Also can you extend it back to 1957 (for Senior), 1979 (Intermediate) and 1980 (Junior). Owenmoresider 17:32, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * There is one error that you made when fixing the link: The 2005 link says "SeniorFootball", as opposed to "Senior_Football", and thus doesn't work. It will be Wednesday or Thursday before I get anywhere with earlier records. Am linking them to their corresponding years on the RoH to access each one. Thanks for that. Owenmoresider 14:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Petercanavan.jpg
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Laois GAA
Gnevin,

You recently added a Laois clubs template to the Laois GAA page. How do I edit this template (I want to add a couple of competitions to it)?

Regards, Heshs Umpire

The Ark
You are welcome to discuss your change, however please refrain from edit warring. There is a spoiler warning, if you do not like spoilers you should not read past the warning. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 22:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Attempting to save is misleading, he is saving. You are edit warring, get consensus on the talk page to change it to misleading text. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771

username
Erm...thanks. I don't know if I would actually add any pictures ot the page. --Lenin and McCarthy |  (Complain here) 16:34, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Croke Park Fixture Table
It is entirely likely that, once the IRFU and FAI have finished building their brand spanking new stadium that is going to cost them €365 million, they're not likely to want to use Croke Park anymore are they? As for the excuse "the fixtures aren't listed on the IRFU and FAI pages", that's spurious at best. These fixtures, for the time that they last, are historic and a list of them should be maintained. Hammersfan 22/02/07, 09.55 GMT

AWB Bug: Edit conflict bug - Fixed
Hi, This bug, has been fixed in SVN Rev 622

AWB was handling the edit conflict, but was doing nothing more than just reloading teh page and applying the changes. I have added a messagebox to be displayed to notify the user of such before the changes are reloaded

Thanks

Reedy Boy 18:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: AWB Bug - Defaultsort and O' names - Input Needed
Hi, Can you pop over to Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs for us, we need some clarification before we can proceed!

Cheers

Reedy Boy 02:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

RTE wound the controversy
Gnevin, where have you been this last week. RTE wound-up the controversy about the national anthem at Croke Park, until I literally swapped stations a couple of times. Finucane, Brown & Co got great mileage out of it! Taramoon     21:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Picture of Brian Dooher
considering the fair use rationale for Peter Canavan's picture, that it's a historically significant picture, because it shows him lifting Sam, could the same rationale be used to justify a similar picture of Brian Dooher? Also, Gnevin, where did you get the picture for Canavan?--Macca7174 18:49, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * This might be a bit of a long shot, but do you think this picture of Brian McGuigan could be justified?


 * I definately think that a picture of Cormac McAnallen could be justified since he's dead. the example I showed you is from a charity's source (Queen's University), which may help the cause even further??--Macca7174 13:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Is there an arguement for the quality of the picture?? A photograph taken by an amateur from the stands of a football match is not exactly encyclopedic, especially when compared to a professional who is positioned at the side of a pitch (at eye line level), who is more likely to take a good quality photograph.--Macca7174 14:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Laois GAA
Gnevin,

Hi, you recently amended the Laois GAA page using AWB to fix links to disambiuation pages but this had the effect of making 5 or 6 players on the Laois squad "red links". Can you enlighten me as to what the purpose is and any possible solution?

Regards, Heshs Umpire

No problem, I see what you did and have sorted it.

Regards, Heshs Umpire

Hi GNevin,

Back annoying you again. How do I create a template for squads like these on James McGarry? I want to add a couple of them to the Laois articles Heshs Umpire 12:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

It was
Thanks very much, I thought I came over a bit of a prat because the whole big editor quote was out of context. I mentioned the GAA project to him, and got the photographer to take photos of it, but I guess it didn't get a mention. -- Pauric ( talk-contributions ) 19:59, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

RE: Welcome
Hi Gnevin,

thank you for your welcome message in my User talk. I will try to read the links you suggested me asap, as I am new to Wikipedia (as an editing user, not as a user at all). I hope my edition of some GAA articles both for Hurling and Gaelic Football were done right, and if not I apologize.

I am mainly an Australian Rules Football player and fan, born and raised in Barcelona, but I also like GAA sports, which I have learned to love specially lately in the last year, thanks to an irish friend. I am a Kilkenny fan in Hurling and a Mayo and Laois fan in Gaelic Football.

Again, thanks for your suggestions. If I have any question I will not hesitate to contact you.

--Bluejay00 08:03, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

performance of cwc
Well actually Guyana has indeed won the CWC because they are part of the West Indies--Thugchildz

Its all good...Congrats to the irish! for tying(very very hard to do in cricket) their debut world cup match and that too again against a test nation!--Thugchildz 08:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Gaelic football
Sorry bout all the bad links to Gaelic Football. It was a force of habit in my earlier articles. I'll try and make sure it doesn't happen again.

Cheers for the comments on the discussion about deleting the subcategorys of All Stars? I thought you might want to have a look at it.

What is this about User:Pauric being in the Independent?? Was he interviewed by the newspaper?--Macca7174 17:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I've just added a few more comments to the debate, you might want to have a look at.--Macca7174 18:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Jebus
Well, perhaps you could put up a list of players in table form, and add stars in other columns to indicate in which year(s) they were allstar players. Such a list would even be sortable by any column for more comprehensiveness.

 &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  14:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Who says the table would need 38 columns? Make it ten and start a new table per decade, for instance. With your category approach I can't easily find e.g. "players with three or more stars", with the table that's pretty easy.  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  14:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * to User:Radiant!: I'm confused as to where the table you suggested to user:Gnevin would be put. For example, I was about to put it on my Peter Canavan sandbox experiment, but I realised that the table you have doesn't fit - because Canavan would be the only player in the first column. It would fit in an article such as Tyrone GAA, ie the team he plays for, but not for the player.--Macca7174 20:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah ok, cheers. As regards the All stars table. I did an experiment with it using the barnstar logo, but it means that the table is not sortable. eg
 * {| class="sortable" border=1

!Player !2001 !2002 !2003
 * John Doe||[[Image:Original Barnstar.png|12px]]||| ||
 * Don Joe|| ||[[Image:Original Barnstar.png|12px]]||[[Image:Original Barnstar.png|12px]]
 * Jimbo Wales ||[[Image:Original Barnstar.png|12px]]|| ||[[Image:Original Barnstar.png|12px]]
 * }
 * Jimbo Wales ||[[Image:Original Barnstar.png|12px]]|| ||[[Image:Original Barnstar.png|12px]]
 * }
 * }


 * Is a sortable table really neccesary, you think? I have found no use for it so far...--Macca7174 21:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Categories.
Hey, man, It's me again. I have begun added in the Category:1971 All Star (football) to the articles that exist. I was wondering if it would be easier for you to do it, since you have AWB. I would get it, but I am using a Mac. Better still, could you tell me the Mac equivalent of AWB?? Cheers--Macca7174 22:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Denis Moran page moves
Hey G, don't forget to check the redirects when you do a page-move. There are now some double redirects that don't work and need to be fixed --Rye1967 15:59, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries, thats sorted it now.--Rye1967 22:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Rovers
Hiya! Sorry for posting here rather than my talk page but I didn't know if you'd see a reply on my page. Anyway I'll see if I can dig up the article from Hyland, afaik Herald articles arn't online (from a quick check of unison.ie). I've seen excerpts and listened to some of the TD submission in court and there was a lot of that kind of 'hearts-and-minds' argument in there with (irrelevant to the case imo) points about Irish culture and language being mentioned. Unfortunately I don't see a way to obtain the affidavits from the courts website, perhaps you need to be a barrister or get them via the FOI. To try and stay NPOV I've added the following to explain the 'substantive issue' as its called. "The specific argument put forward for the Judicial review was that the decision of the council in February 2006 to revert to the original plans for the stadium, which did not include a senior GAA pitch, was illegal." I don't have the exact citation for that offhand, but the Irish Times from the day of the JR decision mentions it - I'll have to go hunting for newspaper clippings.

Also I think I'll remove the line that you added the citation required for for the moment. I'll dig up the citation and add it in at a later date. But I have the article in for GA review at the moment so having uncited comments won't help.

Thanks for your comments, my apologies if I was a little hasty in reverting things before lunch. If you have further suggestions on this section perhaps we can discus it on the Shamrock Rovers talk page? --Albert.white 13:26, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Proposal_for_warning_against_inappropriate_use_of_Northern_Ireland_flag_templates
From your comment can I assume you support the proposal then if so could you indicate that, as the misuse of this flag on WP is out of hand.--padraig3uk 11:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Both are related issues, as it is hoped the the proposal I have put forward could be used as a basis of other cases of flag misuse, I agree that there is a overuse of flags on WP.-- padraig3uk 11:33, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Flags
Hello, I don't understand your edit summary for this edit. Maybe I'm being obtuse, but I'd be greatful if you could explain it in different words. Thanks, Cop 633 14:28, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

your deletion of new orleans image
I have reverted your deletion of the image (again) from the 2005 levee failures in Greater New Orleans. The image is the best way to get a good feel for the mass destruction levee failures in New Orleans, and deleting it actually hurts the article. While I understand that you might not think it's artistic standards are very high, rather than deleting it I would urge you to make a new one in its place. Dr. Cash 20:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The quality probably could be improved a bit, but simply deleting it with only a brief explanation of why your deleting it in the edit summary probably isn't going to solve the problem, as it's very likely that no one is going to take the initiative to create a new image, which is what is needed. If you think the quality is poor, a better solution would be to post a request at Requested pictures for a new image by someone.


 * I think the image was originally done in the early aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, so it was probably a rush job, as many of the Katrina-related articles were being edited very quickly, and errors were quite common. Now that things have stabilized a bit, many of the articles are beginning to be cleaned up. Dr. Cash 21:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Help
helpme Is their i template i can add to Image:New-Orleans-deaths.jpg which requests an improved quality version (Gnevin 11:35, 26 April 2007 (UTC))
 * I don't believe there is, but I'll remove the helpme template for now while I investigate (stop the noise on IRC) --NigelJ talk SIMPLE 12:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, you can request improvement at Graphic Lab. Cheers, --KFP (talk | contribs) 12:31, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Gaelic footballers who switched codes
I have being working on the article Ireland national football team (IFA) and have noticed that at least three players - Jack Kirwan, Val Harris and Con Martin - who turned out for this team also played gaelic football for Dublin. Do you have any info on Kirwan. He is mentioned as a Dublin footballer at the article Players who have converted from one football code to another. Can you confirm if he is the same J. Kirwan mentioned in Dublin GAA Honours as an 1894 All-Ireland winner. Plus is J. Ledwidge mentioned in in 1898 and 1899 All-Ireland the same person as Joseph Ledwidge. Djln --Djln 20:18, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Cheers for trying anyway, Djln--Djln 12:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

http://www.gaelicsurvival.com
I know you were going by policy, but I can imagine this site could be quite useful for our purposes when the CHampionship starts. I would suggest you keep it within reach somewhere, probably the Project talk page.--Macca7174 00:36, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

GAA vandal
The best i can do is take it to WP:AIV which i will promptly do. Simply south 13:27, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I may become one but i'm postponing my decision. Simply south 13:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Petercanavan.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Petercanavan.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:


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 * 2) On the image discussion page, write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all.

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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on [ this link]. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. ShadowHalo 05:05, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I have a DVD of the 2005 All-Ireland final. If I vidcapped a good shot of Peter Canavan from it (such as when he meets the President), would it be sufficient for the infobox?? And would it be within protocol to just vidcap a shot of every player that played on the day and use it for their profile infoboxes?--Macca7174talk 15:56, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

GaelicGamesProject
Done. Noticed on the latter ones there was a GaelicGamesProjectTemplate so i was double tagging. I re-ran over those to remove the duplication. Reedy Boy 20:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I noticed you have started appending the GaelicGamesProject with |class=NA what is this??--Macca7174 19:35, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


 * But I thought you wern't going to bother rating articles because it wastes too much time.--Macca7174 16:11, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

walkthru for GAA bios?
I know you've moved my walkthrough guide fro creating new players bios - but where did you put it??--Macca7174 17:56, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

GAA main templete
I changed the bottom part - the ladies football and camogie all irelands. The original template suggests that the AILFC and the AICC are different competitions to the O'Duffy club etc. --Gael-wh 15:30, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

requested moves 21 May 2007

 * I moved Brendan Martin Cup to All-Ireland Senior Ladies' Football Championship.

There is a query about moving O'Duffy Cup to All-Ireland Senior Camogie Championship : old edits of All-Ireland Senior Camogie Championship contain a table of match results; do you want this table keeping? Anthony Appleyard 21:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Proposal: Variants of the abolished NI Flag in Template:Country data Northern Ireland
Hi, you might want to voice your opinion in a proposal I made in Template talk:Country data Northern Ireland. As the discussion has been going on and the page is quite cluttered, here my proposal in short:
 * Inclusion of variants in the Template:Country data Northern Ireland as follows:
 * flag alias-cgf = Image:Ulster Banner.svg [[Image:Ulster Banner.svg|35px]] still used by the CGF (Commonwealth Games Federation)
 * flag alias-patrick = Image:Saint Patrick's flag for Northern Ireland.svg [[Image:Saint Patrick's flag for Northern Ireland.svg|35px]]
 * flag alias-map = Image:Alliance Northern Ireland flag.svg [[Image:Alliance Northern Ireland flag.svg|35px]], which I find aesthetically more satisfying than [[Image:NIShape.gif|35px]]
 * flag alias-union = Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|35px]] as the only official flag of NI

The defenders of the abolished flag argue that this flag is still used in context with the Commonwealth Games. I think that the inclusions of variants is the first practical step in discontinuing the use of the abolished flag in articles about biographies and international organisations (like the european parties). AFAIK, a map tag is already in use in articles about NI geography; this map symbol was never intended to be used as an icon, and I think the usage of Image:Alliance ni flag.png looks better.

I would welcome your input to this debate greatly.

Kind regards, Dingo 05:04, 30 May 2007 (UTC) (currently anonymous)

RE Image request
Yeah, that's no problem. I haven't been around much lately as you might have noticed but anything you need I can probably do. Just one thing, I'm not actually familiar with the new format. Is that it in your diagram and you want something fancier, or you want it in that style but with the new competition format? -- Pauric ( talk-contributions ) 17:50, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Graphics Lab
''Yeah super i know i made it more difficult than i should. Thanks for your help you did a super job (Gnevin 17:51, 7 June 2007 (UTC))''

Don't worry about it, that's what the Graphics Lab is for, Wikipedians who aren't as experienced with Graphics, asking for help from ones who are. I enjoyed the challenge ! > Rugby471 talk 18:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Qualifiers brackets
Have a look at All-Ireland Senior Football Championship 2007 to see what I did with the qualifiers brackets. There's a few tennis-based ones that nearly serve our purpose that a few minor tweaks would change them I'd imagine.
 * Template:16Team-2Round-Repechage is the one I am currently using - but it reads from right to left for some reason, and I can't put the titles of the rounds on it (i.e. First Qualifying round).
 * Template:16Team-2Round-Compact - this is the closest, but the title of the second round is Quarter final which is incorrect, so I can't use it - but this is probably our best bet.
 * Template:8Team-2Group-Playoff - this is quite a unique one, which may work for the transition between provincial runners up and the 4 qualifiers?

I found all them here - Category:Tournament bracket templates, but I haven't looked through them all, but the other names didn't suggest that they'd be of any help.

Could you work on the codes, do you think so that they could be applied to the Championship??--Macca7174 16:43, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * has the GAA announced a date for the qualifiers draw??--Macca7174 10:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


 * But have they set a date?? I haven't seen any mention of anything even close to a time frame for the qualifiers draw on any site (RTE, GAA.ie etc)--Macca7174 21:52, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

User:Creaven07
Hi Gnevin,

User:Creaven07 has created a large number of stubs for groups belonging to the GAA/GAC. I'm not familiar with those groups---and at least one of his articles Seán Kearns is blatant nonsense. You appear to be fairly active in these areas and was wondering if you could take a look at his pages. He has a list of them on his main page. Thanks, Balloonman 03:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks Gnevin, my cursory glance at those pages they looked ok, but I wasn't sure if they were legit or warranted their own pages---thus, figured I would defer to somebody more familiar with the subject. Thanks for taking a look at them.Balloonman 14:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Tagging of Template:Infobox Football All-Ireland 2
I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on Template:Infobox Football All-Ireland 2. I do not think that Template:Infobox Football All-Ireland 2 fits any of the speedy deletion criteria because redundancy is not a reason to speedy delete a template. It can be a reson to nominate at WP:TfD, but soemtimes the discussion there will decide on a redirect or other non-deletion solution. Sometimes there ar reasons for keeping two diffretn tempaltes that at first seem redundant. so i suggest raising the matter there.. I request that you consider not re-tagging Template:Infobox Football All-Ireland 2 for speedy deletion without discussing the matter on the appropriate talk page. DES (talk) 20:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Much the same reasoning applies to Template:Infobox Hurling All-Ireland 2. DES (talk) 20:06, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, I second the advice above, and the need for Gnevin to study the deletion criteria, and other wiki-guidance. Tricky 16:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

copyright on Hertfordshire GAA
Hi. I see you re-added the text that myself and User:Lozleader removed from this page. Let us consider a paragraph from the article that was removed, as it was originally


 * "The defeat to Wicklow is most notable, in that both sides were level after extra time. The Clare referee decided to play on until the first team scored. Herts being successful in doing so celebrated their victory, but it was short lived. Wicklow appealed successfully to Central Council and the game was replayed in Croke Park, where Wicklow won by three points."

Now, on the website it has the following paragraph


 * "It was our defeat to Wicklow that sticks in the memory banks. On that occasion the sides were level after extra time. The Clare referee, decided to play on until the first team scored. Herts. being successful in doing so celebrated their victory, but victory was short lived. Wicklow appealed, successfully, to Central Council, and the game was replayed in Croke Park, where Wicklow beat us by three points."

Let's actually see what the differences are - I've put deletions in strikeout and additions in italics

" It was our The defeat to Wicklow that sticks in the memory banks. On that occasion the  is most notable, in that both sides were level after extra time. The Clare referee, decided to play on until the first team scored. Herts . being successful in doing so celebrated their victory, but victory was short lived. Wicklow appealed , successfully , to Central Council, and the game was replayed in Croke Park, where Wicklow beat us won by three points."

Here, you can see that words have been tweaked with a bit to make the language appropriate for Wikipedia. However, it still clearly constitutes a derived works, and several long portions are taken entirely verbatim. Now, let's see what you re-added, with the comment "readded but changed" :-


 * "The defeat to Wicklow is the closest Hertfordshire have come to victory the sides were level after extra time. The referee decided to play on until the first team scored. Hertfordshire where the first to score and so celebrated their victory, but Wicklow appealed successfully to Central Council a replay was played in Croke Park, where Wicklow won by three points."

This is still clearly textually derived from the website, with only a few words altered from your previous version. The version I just removed again just now, this was


 * "The sides were level after extra time. The referee decided to play on until the first team scored. Hertfordshire where the first to score and so believed they won, but Wicklow appealed successfully to Central Council a replay was played in Croke Park, where Wicklow won by three points."

Again, several sentences taken pretty much verbatim.

I am noting to you that this is clear copyright violation and it is wholly unacceptable to re-add copyright violations after they have been explained and removed. If you don't understand the subtleties of this area and wish to get an explanation as to what levels of paraphrasing are allowed, and suchforth, I should be happy to do so, but do not do this again.

Thanks, Morwen - Talk 07:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi. The use of facts is perfectly acceptable, of course.  The literal copying of several sentence, which you've not bothered to put in your own words is, as I said before wholly unacceptable.  Since you have disregarded the above warning, I have blocked you indefinitely until you apologise and vow never to do this again.  I will be reviewing your contributions and seeing if you have committed plagiarism/copyvio elsewhere.  Thanks, Morwen - Talk 20:12, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That is absolutely rediculous. You can't tell someone to "apologise and vow never to do this again". Gnevin isn't a child and this isn't a playground and with all due respect Morwen you, you seem to be taking this issue personally and ignoring the bare facts of the case. Derry Boi 22:43, 3 July 2007 (UTC)