User talk:Gnheng

About your edit on Geraldine Heng
Hi, I'm Timothytyy. I noticed that you made an edit on Geraldine Heng and claimed that the article is about yourself. We welcome your contributions, but before you make any edits you should read the Policies and Guidelines carefully. Your information should be clearly sourced no matter if you are that person or not. Also, editing biographies about yourself is strongly discouraged unless you are correcting obvious vandalism. Articles about yourself should be edited by other editors in order to fulfill WP:NPOV. You can still help by correcting obvious errors with verifiable sources. Thank you. Timothytyy (talk) 13:23, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but I'm trying to correct errors in my biography made by well-meaning people who know me less than I know my own life and work.  I am also trying to update information.  Some of the information posted by well-meaning people is out of date and incorrect. Gnheng (talk) 04:54, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Gnheng You can remove some information that you think is incorrect and unsourced, but do not add information you think is correct. Even if the information you provided is correct, we don't have any ways to prove that. Every piece of information on Wikipedia should be sourced in order to be verified by other editors, and autobiographies are not exceptions. Wikipedia does not encourage users to edit biographies of themselves, and Wikipedia is not a place to write autobiographies. Biographies in Wikipedia should be written in a 3rd person's perspective to maintain an objectively written article. To conclude, if you really want to edit your own biography, do cite reliable sources for verification. Thank you. Timothytyy (talk) 08:37, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but what I'm trying to do, minimally, is correct incorrect information. Of the websites containing my professional information (some of these sites are not maintained by me, but by my employers, Wikipedia is the only one that contains outdated, incorrect, and misleading information.  Probably because well-meaning or maybe not so well-meaning anonymous people are producing it.  That's what I'm trying to correct.  I appreciate the fact that anonymous editors are trying to provide information about me, but this is not good data, when they post incorrect, misleading, or out-of-date information (based on news, e.g. that is decades old, that they've found online, but that's no longer correct). Of course, all biography is written in the 3rd person.  I will make one more attempt to correct the problems.  I guess, if you insist on restoring the errors, I'll just leave them on Wikipedia, and people can do extra research themselves, and check the Wikipedia misinformation against other, correct, up-to-date, and authentic information they  find on employer websites.  Sadly, this does no-one a service, because we are all trying to fight misleading, wrong, or bad data online.  Ironically, I just donated to keep Wikipedia going!  What a mistake.  Thanks again. Gnheng (talk) 00:12, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * You are really missing the point here. Editors are volunteers, donations will not influence us. We do not take bribes to begin with, let alone over this kind of petty matter. Vanished user 60279853583153 (talk) 00:34, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * No one is talking about bribes. As I understand it, Wikipedia is meant to be a useful resource.  It's not a useful resource if it contains wrong, misleading, out-of-date information or misinformation.  That can only contribute to disrepute.  But I understand.  Anonymous volunteers are better judges of what is correct in someone's life than the person him/herself.  I'll stop trying to correct errors in my biography.  There are other websites with correct information, like employer sites.  People can do their own research and find these.  Thanks.  I've learnt a lot from this process. Gnheng (talk) 00:38, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Please read the policies in the templated message that I have sent to you. Vanished user 60279853583153 (talk) 01:13, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there Timothytyy, Among Us for POTUS, and Gnheng! And welcome, Gnheng, to Wikipedia: I hope that you do keep editing the encyclopaedia despite this initial difficulty! Timothytyy, Among Us for POTUS: I think we could have handled this situation more productively. I've gone through the additions that Gnheng tried to make and have been able to verify them all, so I've reinstated them, but this time with references. I think if we'd just done that in the first place, we could have saved quite a lot of time and aggravation. That said, Gnheng: it surely makes sense that information added on Wikipedia needs to be verifiable, just like in any academic publication? We have no way to verify that you really are Geraldine Heng, so I hope it makes sense that you need to provide references for statements about yourself just like any other biographer does.
 * The one edit of yours that I don't understand yet is your attempt to remove reference to your studies at the National University of Singapore: the thesis cited is certainly real, but is it by a different person of the same name? Likewise, your UofTexas CV here lists your BA and MA as being at the National University of Singapore. But perhaps trying to remove that information was an error? Alarichall (talk) 18:33, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I probably came off as too hostile, I'm sorry about that. The main reason I was annoyed here was their response (especially the part about how they donated to WMF, which made me feel like they were trying to use that as leverage, though I might have overreacteed), and that they said their changes removed things about themselves, and we have a COI policy for this reason, but I take accountability for not spending time to try to verify what they added.
 * As for the privacy issues: we should have a policy on this about BLP privacy that should be relevant here.
 * Also,, you appear to have edited while logged out. I believe you are Gnheng and did not intend to reveal your IP address. I think there are remedies for this if you wish to ask someone to remove your IP address. Among Us for POTUS (talk) 21:04, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, Alarichall. I'm happy and relieved to meet a fellow medievalist, and an Icelandic specialist, too! Grateful for the help! ---Gerry Heng Gnheng (talk) 22:33, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, Alarichall. I'm happy and relieved to meet a fellow medievalist, and an Icelandic specialist, too! Grateful for the help! ---Gerry Heng Gnheng (talk) 22:33, 7 November 2022 (UTC) Gnheng (talk) 22:34, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I’m grateful for the help. The removal of certain references to my earlier life in Singapore involves privacy issues.

The removal of the reference to one keynote I gave is because it looks peculiar. On average I deliver a dozen named lectures, plenaries, keynotes and invited lectures a year, and not to name, say The Medieval Academy Lecture at ICMS, or the RaceB4Race keynote at the Folger, but to name just one smaller conference may hurt some feelings among colleagues who worked to get me those larger honors.

I appreciate that there are people out there trying to give me a Wikipedia page. In general, I support Wikipedia. But spending hours trying to correct errors, and being lectured to, is a new experience. But thank you for your courtesy. I very much appreciate it. 70.115.119.23 (talk) 19:14, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

November 2022
Hello, Gnheng. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Geraldine Heng, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Vanished user 60279853583153 (talk) 00:35, 6 November 2022 (UTC)