User talk:Gnrwiki

Cut-and-paste copyvios
Please don't add material to Wikipedia that has been cut-and-pasted from other sources. Thanks, OhNo itsJamie Talk 22:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

trying to understand how this works?
At the top of the "negotiation" page it seeks experts on the topic. I am one of those. I post things and they disappear? How does that happen? Please help. Thanks, John Graham (jgraham@uci.edu)
 * It happens when you cut-and-paste material from other sites. See WP:COPYVIO. OhNo itsJamie Talk 00:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Ohnoitsjaime, Thanks for getting back to me on this. The material you sent from "raifoundation" is my original writing. I haven't copied it from them, rather they did from me. I consider all this material public domain, and ultimately valuable information for negotiators and researchers. Please let's keep talking. John
 * Can you provide some evidence that you're releasing it to public domain? (The PDF I found during the copyvio check doesn't have authorship information). Any time I see a large body of text added, I check to see if it's been lifted from elsewhere on the web.   Once we've cleared the WP:GFDL hurdle, I'd also urge you to WP:Wikify new material you're adding and use some of wiki formatting markup (e.g., using an asterisk to create a bullet point). Don't worry, there isn't that much wiki markup you need to know. You can use the "Show Preview" button to see if you're markup is doing what you want it to do before posting.  I've added the welcome template to the top of your page; it has a lot of handy information links. Cheers, OhNo itsJamie  Talk 00:30, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi OnNoItsJaime, Thanks so much. I'm back to work on things. Best regards, John Gnrwiki (talk) 17:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for contacting me. Three questions:

1. How do I get over the "WP:GFDL hurdle" described above? 2. How do I "WP:Wikify" my material? 3. How do I repost my segments that were bumped off?

Best regards, John Gnrwiki (talk) 17:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * As for Wikify, read WP:WIKIFY which gives examples of proper markup. As for the other ones, ask OhNoItsJamie as I'm sure they can tell you more. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Please click on the links that Ohnoitsjamie provided; they will explain how to do those things. To provide proof that you are releasing the copyrighted material, please follow the directions at WP:OTRS. Cheers. // roux   17:32, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi All, As I understand the instructions, to get over the "WP:GFDL hurdle", I would need to put a copy of the "License" and the "copyright and license notices" as references at the beginning of the two new sections I am trying to add? Thanks, Gnrwiki (talk) 01:08, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Me again, Then once I have the material posted, I can make the markups as required? John Gnrwiki (talk) 01:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. Remember you can use the "Show preview" button as you work to help you avoid having to make a lot of small changes. It also helps you when you're wikilinking to other articles (the link will be red if it doesn't point to an existing article). One other suggestion; you may want to read Article size. You were adding a fairly large amount of content. In some cases, it's appropriate to "spin off" parts of a large article to smaller articles, which you can then link to from the main article. For an example of this, look at any nation or US state article; you'll see how "History" and other sections are spun-off into their own articles. Cheers, OhNo itsJamie  Talk 01:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi OhNoItsJamie, I've added in the new section heading with the GFDL reference and license at the end. Before I go back and add in the content, I just wanted to make sure I'm doing this correctly? It seems that the License is taking up too much room in the Table of Contents? Please take a look and tell me how I should change it. Thanks, JohnGnrwiki (talk) 17:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Me again, I think I've cleaned up the Table of Contents problem referred to above. Thanks, JohnGnrwiki (talk) 17:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow, umm.. no, that's not how you do it, and I have no idea why Ohnoitsjamie said it was. As I said above: To provide proof that you are releasing the copyrighted material, please follow the directions at WP:OTRS. I also note that the copyrighted material has no references or sources--this is a problem. Everything added to Wikipedia must be verifieable from reliable sources. Cheers. // roux   17:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that...I misread Gnrwiki's question (I missed the part about posting the license along with the content). The OTRS link that Neurolysis posted should help. OhNo itsJamie  Talk 21:40, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

helpme Hi All, Sorry I am so dense about all this, but I'm new at it. I now have conflicting advice? When I go to WP:OTRS I see no specific instructions? However, the instructions at the endo of WP:GFDL are specific:

"How to use this License for your documents To use this License in a document you have written, include a copy of the License in the document and put the following copyright and license notices just after the title page: Copyright (c) YEAR YOUR NAME. Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License".

I have posted this last information on the "Negotiation" page as instructed -- please see it there. Thanks for everyone's patience. Please help. Thanks, JohnGnrwiki (talk) 21:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * OTRS explains it a lot better than the one on Wikipedia. &mdash; neuro  (talk)  21:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

How to verify copyright permission for article Negotiation
Hello, Gnrwiki.

Thank you for your interest in donating material from Global Negotiation, The New Rules and other content authored or co-authored by you to Wikipedia. Since we do not currently have a method in place to verify the identity of account holders at account creation, we must verify such donations through external processes. The relevant sections of the article have been blanked to allow time for that verification to proceed.

Verifying the right to release content from books can be a little complicated, since copyright ownership can be complex. As I'm sure you know, authors sometimes license their materials to their publishers in such a way that prohibits content being republished except in certain circumstances, Several years ago, we were required to remove all content contributed by a Scottish historian when it was noted that his publisher retained the rights and would not permit the license. You can read a little more about that at Donating copyrighted materials.

The simplest way to verify is to place a confirmation on your official website (such as your University of California Irvine page) acknowledging that you have edited Wikipedia as Gnrwiki, that you own copyright to all of your authored or coauthored text, and that you released the content under GFDL at the time the material was placed. If you do that, please let us know where we can find it. It needn't be that page specifically, but I'm afraid it does have to be a page that we can verify belongs to John L. Graham.

Alternatively, you may choose to send an e-mail to the Wikimedia Foundation from an address clearly associated with you (such as your university address) to [mailto:permissions-en@wikimedia.org permissions-en@wikimedia.org] or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the CC-BY-SA and GFDL. There is a boilerplate release form at Declaration of consent for all enquiries which can be helpful. Please specify by name the article on Wikipedia in which the material is being used and also make clear that your publisher does not retain rights that would prevent this release. Once your e-mail is received and processed by a member of the Communications Committee, the article's contents will be restored if your release is legally sufficient. Please make a note that you've done this on Talk:Negotiation to help guard against premature deletion of the page. You can compose a note or very simply paste the following on the talk page, brackets and all:

If you decide you don't wish to release the material into public domain or under the terms of CC-BY-SA and GFDL, you are welcome to rewrite the section from scratch at [ this temporary page]. As long as the material is otherwise compliant with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, it will be used to replace the previous contents. Please leave a note at Talk:Negotiation saying you have done so.

We apologize for the additional steps necessary, but as copyright is a matter of legal concern, we must ensure that we not only protect the rights of copyright holders, but also guard the Wikipedia project against inadvertent infringement.

The article will be revisited in about a week to see what additional steps have been taken or may be necessary. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to let me know at my talk page. We also have a help desk which is typically manned around the clock by volunteers.

Thank you. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:39, 21 October 2011 (UTC)