User talk:Go Phightins!/Archive 22

Quakers
Um... I think 2013 Penn Quakers football team needs to be deleted because of 2013 Penn State Nittany Lions football team exists. We can't have two articles on the same school. Joking aside, is there any chance you have time to make sure the former article looks anything like the latter? Ryan Vesey 19:30, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Forget AfD, how about a CSD? Patent nonsense, right? I just took a look – I can't promise the same quality as the PSU article, but certainly I can add a similar game box and put in a summary of a paragraph or so ... I don't have enough background about Penn football to write the pre and post game stuff I write for Penn State. What newspapers cover Penn football extensively, and does Penn have a good student newspaper? Thanks. --  Go  Phightins  !  21:03, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The DP is probably going to be the only source. http://www.thedp.com/section/sports Thanks Ryan Vesey 22:13, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * All right, Ryan. There's a start for you. You kind of sucked yesterday :-)  Go  Phightins  !  22:42, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * More like kind of sucked for the past 102 years. We haven't beaten Villanova in over a century.  We almost won my freshman year. Ryan Vesey 22:44, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Look at the bright side - there's a chance you'll lose by a smaller margin than the stupid Eagles today.  Go  Phightins  !  22:46, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Or even lose without having as many turnovers as the Bears today.  Zappa  O  Mati   03:17, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * On the bright side for you Phightins, the Eagles won, but not so good for me, as the Bears lost. At least my San Jose Sharks are 2-0; not sure if you follow the Flyers or not, since they're 0-3.  Zappa  O  Mati   03:18, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

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Attention beloved talk page stalkers who like templates and code and what not - User:Dainomite, User:Ryan Vesey, and User:Technical 13, you in particular
I am working on 2013 Penn State Nittany Lions football team and am planning to add the team's starting lineup in a collapsible box for each game. I finally figured out the code to do it at 2013 Penn State Nittany Lions football team, but would appreciate any input and/or modifications to make the layout look nicer, as well as change the background color of the collapsed box to either a neutral gray, or the Lions' navy blue and white. If someone could either a) do that or b) tell me how to, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance.  Go  Phightins  !  19:28, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me... Was there something specific you needed help with coding? Technical 13 (talk) 02:57, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry for my ambiguity. I wanted to know if it was possible to change the background color of the collapsed box from that light blue to a neutral gray color.  Go  Phightins  !  03:05, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry GoP, I was at work all day otherwise I would've responded sooner. Atleast I caught a bit of the Badger game though hehe. I'll play around with this in my sandbox some, see if i can reduce the code some. Is there any sort of modifications that you're looking for specifically? I'll make the background of the headers navy blue and change the header font-color to a white. Another idea that I got from the 'bama article's depth chart is to use the template Template:CFB Team Depth Chart. You could use that for a more visually stimulating way of displaying starters and their positions. What do you think? —   dain  omite   03:08, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * No need to apologize, Daino, and by the way, nice new signature. I saw that template as well, and may incorporate that once the season ends, but in the article, I was simply listing the game's starters, not the pre-game depth charts. Thanks.  Go  Phightins  !  03:10, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank ya! The font-color of "dain" changes from orange to blue every other day, needless to say I was very excited when I was finally done with it. I think it's cleaner and more crisp than my old one which I kind of cheated on. But, getting back to the Nitty Lions... I think I would just reduce the length of the code by putting the columns side by side, but that's about it. And that's just because it takes a bit to scroll down past the code to the end. —  dain  omite   03:20, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I made some changes. Let me know what you think of them GoP and if I can help with anything else. —  dain  omite   03:43, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Random idea but what about adding a redshirt icon next to the year? Redshirt.svg - Redshirt.svg I got the idea from looking at our roster. —  dain  omite   18:30, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * That's a possibility - I just copied our roster from last year in to my sandbox to try to update, but no guarantee on that any time soon.  Go  Phightins  !  18:37, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, another question, do you want the width for the navbox the entire width of the article? Or just wide enough for all three columns with a little buffer room? For an example of this see... User:Dainomite/sandbox. (Please forgive my incredibly messy sandbox >.>) —  dain  omite   04:57, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

What I did / how I did it

 * Oh! another another note, you did say you'd like to learn something. Here's what I did with the code essentially and a bit more.

This...

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 * LT
 * Donovan Smith
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means exactly the same as this...

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 * LT || Donovan Smith || SO

In a long table doing what I did in the bottom example just cuts down the amount of vertical space that is taken up.

And when you added ;Offense for the headers for each wikitable there's a code you can use that adds a header above the wikitable, except it's called a caption. After  {| class="wikitable"  on the next line you add  |+Offense  and whatever is after |+ will be centered above the wikitable, for an example of this in an edit see this diff.

Also, border="1" doesn't do anything if you have class="wikitable" there. Here's some examples of when it works and when it doesn't work if you're curious. I don't know about you but I'm a visual person so when I see the difference it makes a lot more sense to me.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head but if you want me to do some more stuff like this I don't mind. —  dain  omite   04:57, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * All right, my head is literally spinning. Tell you what: pick one that you like, and go ahead and implement it, if you don't mind doing so.  Go  Phightins  !  12:59, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, they were things that I already did in my edits but I thought you might like to see what I did broken down per say. I collapsed the three separately so hopefully it appears less intimidating. Hopefully this helps. —  dain  omite   03:04, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Hatnote
Oh GoP. Just curious but did you want a timestamp for the hatnote on the top of your talk page? If so I can customize the format of it to have it display however you'd want it. The hatnote on my talk page has a timestamp if that gives you any ideas. Also, after perusing bleacher report a bit ago (and seeing this article in particular) I just realized you guys had an insane win today against Michigan. Congratulations! I also realize that if I actually looked at the Nitty lions article I would've noticed it haha. Cheers! —  dain  omite   04:59, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, why not! It will be blatantly obvious to anyone who knows me that I didn't code it, but fine. Thanks for lending me your technological coding prowess. Watching Penn State's game was the most fun I have had watching sports since the Phillies won the World Series in 2008. We have a dog who likes to jump up and bite when he gets excited; needless to say, with all of us jumping up and down, he was doing a lot of jumping and biting, but at that point who cares. Anyway, I almost think the game warrants its own article; I am going to read up on my game notability requirements this afternoon, but it was a four overtime game. That was one of the longest games in CFB history, but this was the longest ... 7 overtimes. Another good article on Penn State's game here. Thanks again for the code for the starting lineups; I copied it over to the others, though for fear of messing something up, I did not change the tables like you had the first one, didn't want a monumental error.  Go  Phightins  !  11:01, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries, I'll go back and shorten it up for the other ones like I did to the first one. :) Wow, watching that interview with Bill O'Brien was crazy, the crowd in that stadium was electric still! And it looked like it hadn't emptied out at all either! That reminds me of when a #18 Wisconsin upset #1 Ohio State in 2010 at Camp Randall in Madison, the stadium was just insane. It wasn't a crazy 4OT win but I feel that was our last "incredible" win that comes to mind. —  dain  omite   03:49, 14 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, if you do decide to make an article on the game I see ESPN has ranked it #1 for 'best game' so far this season, link. —  dain  omite   03:04, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Major League Baseball
Hi GP,

I saw that the article Major League Baseball was delisted from good article status. Can you examine this article to see what needs to happen in order for it to go to GA status. I'd like to get it back to GA quality. Advice? Sportsguy17 (talk) 16:49, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The place to start is with referencing. Consider "Multimedia and production", "Founding", "Other leagues", "New stadiums and artificial surfaces", "Spring training", "Regular season", "Radio", and "Internet".  All of these sections have no references at all.  Many other sections contain many unreferenced statements. Ryan Vesey 17:05, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Sportsguy, I am going to ping a few other users to see if they have any thoughts as well: Muboshgu, EricEnfermero, and Wizardman, all of whom have significant experience in baseball good articles. A good place to seek advice would also be at the baseball wiki-project talk page. My initial thoughts are somewhat similar to the thoughts of the user who submitted it for reassessment over three years ago – more citations are needed, particularly in the media section. If you want to put together a team to rewrite some of the article to bring it up to GA status, I would be more than happy to be a member, or to stay out of the improvement and ultimately serve as the GA reviewer, but let's see what my fellow baseball editors think. Thanks for dropping by, and welcome to Wikipedia!  Go  Phightins  !  17:08, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I've made a notice about it. I'm going to find some references when I come back online later. Thanks for the advice. Sports guy 17  (talk) 17:27, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Quick check-in (as no one has responding at WT:BASEBALL yet.) I have referenced all sections, except for multimedia and production, but otherwise, I added 2-5 references per unreferenced section. Where should I go from here, or to the least, what criterion are not at GA standards yet? Sports guy 17 (click to talk • contributions) 02:34, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

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