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I've used that time. My block is indefinite (see above), but I understand your confusion. The template that announced the block was removed because it was inaccurate, but not replaced. Gob Lofa (talk) 22:48, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * , could you re-review based on the above? I did indeed indef-block. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (Message me) 22:51, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I retracted my unblock answer. Though I see you've made lots of constructive edits, your block history shows a troubling lack of interest in following policy. I will note in your favor that your other account seems to have managed to not create any disambig links.  You're going to have to specifically address both issues (block evasion and ignoring bot messages that urge you to clean up messes you've inadvertently made). OhNo itsJamie  Talk 23:20, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Works for me. Gob Lofa (talk) 23:52, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you mean address them here? I thought first you meant in my future activity. I have no intention of setting up any more sockpuppet accounts. I had no idea they would be taken so seriously when I wasn't using them for contentious edits or influencing debates/votes etc. I've no problem heeding the bot messages in future and fixing those links, as I wrote above I had been under the impression the bot had fixed the problems it referred to. Gob Lofa (talk) 13:26, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Better than heeding the bot messages would be using preview and such so that you never insert dab links in the first place, then there is no reason for a bot to notify you, and no reason for you to return and commit yet another edit to the same article. Elizium23 (talk) 14:24, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * That makes sense. Gob Lofa (talk) 14:47, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Current block aside, on the topic of addressing your editing issues, please would you read or reread the Wikipedia link guidelines. The reason I left you the message above about your missing edit comment was to prompt you to consider why you would edit an article solely to link the words "sediment", "sand" and "estuary". These are everyday words that the majority of English readers would be familiar with and since Wikipedia is not a dictionary, the links are unnecessary. Moreover, they are not germane to an article on the subject of prehistoric footprints. Multiple links make articles harder to read and are a distraction —they should be used judiciously as part of the skills required by a Wikipedia editor. I suspect that many of the disambiguation issues you created were the result of linking generic words (which tend to have multiple uses) and were thus non-productive in the creation of an encyclopedia. This is not meant to be a criticism of your enthusiasm for Wikipedia but please bear in mind the goals of the project. Good luck, ► Philg88 ◄  ♦talk 16:02, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair point Phil, reading it now, ta. Gob Lofa (talk) 16:22, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I for one am happy that you've made it back to the land of the living. You're a decent chap and a pretty constructive editor, from the little I have seen, and I think this little incident gave me an unfairly negative first impression of you. Thank you for not just giving up but making the effort to understand and be understood so that you can continue with a productive career here on the project. Welcome back. Elizium23 (talk) 23:23, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome back! You know what you have to do now :) Cheers, ► Philg88 ◄ ♦talk 04:50, 11 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Great to hear, thank you. Gob Lofa (talk) 14:58, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

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 * protect individual rights. However, legal segregation and Jim Crow laws kept African-American s as second class citizens in the South with little power until the 1960s.

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 * (high church) and those who are more Protestant-leaning (low church or [evangelical] ). For historical and

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 * Your hypocrisy is nauseating. I'm not the one reverting edits within minutes of them being made instead of waiting until consensus has been reached. Gob Lofa (talk) 12:27, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

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A consensus emerged with respect to referring to the island and the state in other contexts:
 * Use "Ireland" for the state except where the island of Ireland or Northern Ireland is being discussed in the same context. In such circumstances use "Republic of Ireland" (e.g. "Strabane is at the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland").
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The Morris Tribunal, doesnt not mention Northern Ireland or the island, it is to do with with internal matters of the state, so why do you keep adding it? It happen near NI? Really is that a reason? So can you show where there is consensus for your edit? Murry1975 (talk) 11:41, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * You don't seem to be as familiar with the proceedings of the Tribunal as I would like. Some of the guards transported explosives across the border. At least one witness contended the guards conspired with the RUC in this endeavour: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.culture.irish/6-KcUe7V1Zw Why are you talking about consensus, is there a discussion on this topic I'm not aware of? Gob Lofa (talk) 11:59, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Obviously you are not fimilar with it, its the exact extract from WP:IMOS. And there are many. You are now aware of it, and I see its not the first bit of consensus ignoring, with disruptive edits, you have been invovled in. Murry1975 (talk) 12:06, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * You seem to be confusing the Tribunal proceedings with the IMOS. Gob Lofa (talk) 12:09, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * What are you on about? Murry1975 (talk) 12:14, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I wrote "You don't seem to be as familiar with the proceedings of the Tribunal as I would like." You then wrote "Obviously you are not fimilar with it, its the exact extract from WP:IMOS.", ignoring the point I made about the Tribunal's NI aspect. Gob Lofa (talk) 12:24, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Personal knowledge to do with an article doesnt in any way over-ride any consensus on here, as I pointed out I quoted the exact piece that pertains to this, and you ignore that fact and introduce a link that isnt a RS or in the article, further more the use is contextual, "is being discussed in the same context" so even then the topic would have to be cross-border, or the use of both be on a par. Niether of which they are. Murry1975 (talk) 12:31, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't agree with your interpretation. Gob Lofa (talk) 12:36, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * If you dont agree bring it to IMOS. Stop ignoring guidelines. Murry1975 (talk) 16:34, 27 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Bring your interpretation to IMOS? What would that achieve? I'm not ignoring anything. Gob Lofa (talk) 17:00, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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 * I'm honoured Gilliam, thank you. Gob Lofa (talk) 03:23, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

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I really need your help on the Robin Jackson article. A troll keeps removing content and I've already reverted him once. If I revert him again I'll have broken the One-Revert Rule on all Troubles articles. Thanks.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:49, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Grand, I'll keep an eye. Gob Lofa (talk) 19:01, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks a million!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:40, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

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Gob Lofa, I've set up a new project on Northern Ireland Troubles if you're interested in joining. WikiProject Council/Proposals/Northern Ireland Troubles --Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:28, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Cool, ta. Gob Lofa (talk) 14:57, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

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A slow edit war is still an edit war. You have not answered objections on the talk page and are inserting your opinion. Please stop doing that or it will end up as a formal report Snowded  TALK 00:00, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Your hypocrisy is surprising; I've been waiting to have my objections on the talk page addressed since November. Have you advised the other party to the slow edit war of the possibility of a formal report? Gob Lofa (talk) 00:31, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You are currently in a minority of one. Several editors have explained the issue but you are not listening.  You have also been told about general restrictions in respect of any article relating to the Troubles.  But in case you didn't follow it through here is the link    Snowded  TALK 03:35, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Reverted edit on 32 Battalion (South Africa)

 * I have reverted your edit on 32 Battalion (South Africa). You made a change based on your opinion (unsubstatiated and easily proven incorrect from WP:RS) (that it was only white officers) in the battalion which is untrue. BoonDock (talk) 18:32, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

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Kindly stop harassing me on my talk page. If you continue to do so, I will be reported the matter to ANI. I have repeatedly answered all your questions on Protestants of Ulster and Billy Fox talk pages. The discussion went on at the length to no clear outcome. I see no point in rehashing it. Snappy (talk) 17:24, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


 * You've answered damn-all. If you keep reverting my edits and refusing to explain your reasons, you hardly expect me to just take that lying down and it's a bit rich of you to do this and then squawk about harassment. I don't care where we have this discussion, but if you persist in your behaviour I'm determined to have it. Gob Lofa (talk) 17:42, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've answered every question from you on multiple occasions, it's all there on the talk pages. You just didn't like my answers. We won't be repeating this discussion because we've already had it. Don't question my behaviour or threaten me. It now appears because you haven't gotten your own way, you are resorting to bullying tactics. Snappy (talk) 18:13, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know who you're trying to fool but your lie won't stand up to even the most cursory examination. To give just one example, I asked you repeatedly on the talk pages mentioned above what was the point of view you kept referring to. I'd ask you to point out where you answered that question, but that would be pointless because you didn't. Either defend your contentious edits or stop making them. It's not rocket science. Gob Lofa (talk) 20:54, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I asked you to stop harassing me, yet you continue to leave abusive messages on my talk page. Don't threaten me and don't tell me what to do. Snappy (talk) 19:29, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Threaten you? Gob Lofa (talk) 20:47, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

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Your and Snappy's edits to Unionism in Ireland constitute edit-warring. You are both experienced editors and should be respecting WP:BRD and taking the issue to the talk page not reverting back and forward. Mabuska (talk) 19:37, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have found Snappy to be unusually reticent when it comes to defending his edits, to a degree I've never come across before. Nevertheless, I'll give it another shot. Gob Lofa (talk) 20:27, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * At least you responded and took action by opening a talk page discussion. I've seen no further response to the issue by Snappy. Mabuska (talk) 22:35, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * In his defence in this particular instance, he seems to have been inactive since. I'll wait for a response before I edit the page again. Gob Lofa (talk) 23:22, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * I'd really love to nail down what this point of view is. Gob Lofa (talk) 17:03, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

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 * What point of view? Gob Lofa (talk) 16:14, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I've been saying this for a while now, glad someone else has finally noticed. Snappy (talk) 17:45, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * There's also a lot you haven't been saying, for example, what point of view? Gob Lofa (talk) 18:11, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

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hi imHisExcellencyAadi (talk) 15:38, 28 June 2015 (UTC) and you just reverted my edit on the islamic state. i would like to know the reason as i did not think i typed anything wrong and all my edits were in good faith. Thank You HisExcellencyAadi (talk) 15:38, 28 June 2015 (UTC)


 * It's unsourced opinion. Gob Lofa (talk) 15:56, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

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