User talk:Goblin Roger House

Your submission at Articles for creation: Higher Love (band) (December 22)
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Peter Knight (musician)

January 2018
Hello Dan Petley. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, such as the edit you made to Bravo Telecom, and that you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to Black hat SEO.

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Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Dan Petley. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, please do not edit further until you answer this message. Ben · Salvidrim!  &#9993;  22:02, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * (pasted from Salvadrim's talkpage)Hello Salvidrim, nice to hear from you. I understand your concerns but I'm quite new here and wanted a challenge, so I found a page to "neutralise" just to see if it was something I could get my teeth into. I realise now that this company seems to have had lots of issues so I've probably chosen too big a bonfire to walk into... However, all links were found using google. I'm pretty sure it no longer reads as an advert?


 * I work as an artist and am getting involved with Wikipedia editing because I'm working on a project where experience in an online community as an outsider is part of my research so please be gentle with me! I normally work on community art projects in the UK but am planning to make a worldwide digital collaborative project over the next couple of years... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan Petley (talk • contribs) 22:39, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * As for Peter Knight I'm just a fan. My brother introduced me to his stuff when I was considering moving to Australia many years ago (when I was more active in sound art). It bothered me for years that he didn't have a page on Wikipedia, so since I've taught myself how to code I thought I'd create his page as my first major project. Seriously, just a fan. I'm likely to make lots of pages for bands and artists who I don't think are properly represented on Wikipedia whenever I have a lag in my other jobs. Feel free to give me awkward projects to work on, I love a challenge and want to communicate with lots of people on here and keep improving my skills. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan Petley (talk • contribs) 22:53, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Forgot to Sign[edit source]
 * So sorry I forgot to sign those last two messages, my apologies Dan Petley (talk) 23:03, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * No worries, thanks for responding. :) Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 00:21, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Greetings!
I saw you wrote the article on Michele Macfarlane. I wrote the one on Sky Watch. I made a few minor changes to her article and explained them in the edit summary, but am explaining at more length here. I removed the places where she got the awards from the infobox because for Saddlebreds the only place they can get a World's Championship is at the World's Championship Horse Show. Infoboxes are also so small it's hard to list a lot of detail there. I also changed her from equestrian to horse trainer; an equestrian is normally somebody in the three Olympic disciplines, jumping, eventing or dressage, who often don't train their own horses or anybody else's. Also, the official title for a horse winning the World's Championship Horse Show is either World's Champion or World's Grand Champion, so I changed those too. The other changes were minor, like removing italics from names, which is a Wikipedia policy. Saddle seat is two words and not capitalized. At some point I'd recommend making the career section all prose, since that's what makes her notable. A lot of detail can be put in, describing how she began working with Sky Watch, etc (see Elisabeth Goth or Redd Crabtree for ideas). I don't want you to think I'm lecturing, but some of this you need to know if you continue writing articles, which I hope you do. I've written over 130 of them and have at least 35-40 more planned. ☺ I wrote everything that's linked on List of World Grand Champion Tennessee Walking Horses and am planning to do the rest of them. Anyway, if you want to know anything, you can reply back here or post something on my talk (neigh) page. White Arabian Filly Neigh 23:15, 31 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Fantastic! Thanks White Arabian Filly . Lovely to read your amazingly constructive message, it's been a big confidence boost to have guidance from someone so experienced! Yes to all of the above basically, I'm planning to make more pages about people linked to Macfarlane (my brother interviewed her about Jess "Longshot" Conley so it's possible I may have horse questions soon). Dan Petley (talk) 18:52, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Writing articles about related people/horses is something I often do too, because you often find references for one when looking up another. We have several horsey editors at WikiProject Equine who each have a topic or two we like to focus on specifically, but we often collaborate on articles as well or do general cleanup. It is amazing how many articles don't exist. I have done maybe 10-15 Saddlebred horses and rider articles, but I am more familiar with the Tennessee Walking Horse industry because Saddlebreds lost much of their popularity here in the 60s when the Racking Horse started to gain traction. There are for sure a lot of horses and people who are notable and don't have articles yet. White Arabian Filly  Neigh 22:32, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Katharina Detzel (February 22)
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Proposed deletion of Jackson Ribler


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Ways to improve Jackson Ribler
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Deletion discussion about Jackson Ribler
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Speedy deletion nomination of Jackson Ribler


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Of course I find this disappointing but I understand the 'too soon' challenge... I'm sure I can try again in a few years when he's achieved even more things. Dan Petley (talk) 12:44, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Blocked for sockpuppetry

 * Not convincing. WP:VALIDALT requires that you identify alternate accounts clearly which you didn't do. You have a conflict of interest which is apparent - whether it is undisclosed paid editing or some other form of COI. You created one account a month after the other and claimed on it that you hadn't edited in years when you had been editing a month.

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  21:37, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * What is your affiliation with ?

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  11:34, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh dear, how disappointing. Well, you guys know the rules I guess and I'm always happy to follow them. Please tell me why you think I have an affiliation with Dan Petley (talk) 05:02, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Please answer the question.
 * I have no affiliation with anyone else on Wikipedia, I was only using Dan Petley and Trufflegoblin and didn't realise this was against the rules. I feel annoyed at myself to have wasted so much volunteer time. I'm really sorry but I don't know who Wikibagel is. If I did I would tell you. I've never been paid for the time I spend on Wikipedia and wouldn't want to be because I enjoy making pages on here. As I have said before, it was an online community I was interested in exploring because I'd previously never had the time to contribute anything of any use to anyone. Dan Petley (talk) 14:55, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Admins, it is clear to me that both this account and its sock were freelancing. The note above about "this job" makes that all the more clear.
 * Dan, there is a whole ecosystem of paid editing around and in Wikipedia. There are "white hat" editors who disclose what they are doing and follow the COI guideline, and we get some great contributions from them.  There are also "black hat" paid editors who lie and sneak around and harm the integrity of WP and waste the time of volunteers.  Volunteer time is the lifeblood of Wikipedia.
 * It is extremely unlikely that you are going to be unblocked, with the the tack you are taking. It is clear that you know how to make sockpuppets, so maybe you will keep doing that.  We will end up wasting more time cleaning up after you.
 * If you want to try a better tack, you could disclose what you have been doing and all the accounts you have been using, for starters. Then please ask about what the community expects of paid editors, consider the response you get, and agree to follow that. Then ask to be unblocked. Otherwise this is just banging your head against the wall and taking up yet more of our time. Jytdog (talk) 03:31, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

I've had a look through my history and found two pages that may fit under conflict of interest. One for a friend, one for a business. Not for payment because this would be totally against Wikipedia and I've been enjoying making and editing pages here and have massive respect for the community, which I just want to keep getting better at supporting. The jobs (yes I do use this term for things I do for pleasure, such as gardening, cooking and painting, these are all "jobs" that need to be done... sorry if this made me sound dodgy. A habit I got from my Mother!) were my own personal experiments for people with whom I had an affiliation that breached the CoI rules. I'm sure you'd agree that no one in their right mind would have paid for what I did for them! They were both taken down because they didn't fit the requirements of notability. One was the law firm of an MP who I've met a number of times called Marjinder Kang... I wanted to make a page for his business Kang Solicitors because I find him such an interesting guy and felt his business could make a good page despite lack of citations and make him more Googleable... The other was for Bravo Tel, I'd called into them for help on holiday and they mentioned their site had been flagged to be taken down. They offered me money and I refused then tried fixing the page because I wanted to see if I had the kudos to do this. If these examples are conflict of interest I'm really sorry and am glad both these pages were taken down. I think all the other pages I have made have been useful and well put together. Through watching how each page has been tweaked after my initial construction I have learnt how to make each page better than the last. I have a genuine personal interest in the subject of each page I have made, whether this be fandom or increasing visibility of something culturally significant. I have been accused of COI mainly for making pages for businesses so I'm happy to not make any more pages like this if my login is unblocked. I seriously have no interest in taking money for Wikipedia pages, neither with a black or white hat! I really hope you let me continue to contribute to your community Dan Petley (talk) 14:55, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You have not identified all the accounts you created and used, and what you say here is still not a credible explanation for pages like Joe's Basecamp and Draft:Joe's Basecamp.  The desire to make the MP "more Googleable" and to "increase the visibility" of other topics, is an abuse of WP for advertising and promotion, and explicitly so per WP:PROMO.  Wikipedia is not a platform for promotion -- many paid editors view it this way and it is fundamentally misguided.  WP was created to share knowledge, and lots of people try to hijack our success in attracting readers who want to learn, in order to try to advertise to them. This is exploitation, like dumping industrial waste in a national forest.     You are also consistently describing doing "experiments" and this is also an abuse of your editing privileges.
 * Editing privileges are granted to all comers, and people can keep them as long as they don't abuse them. You continue to waste our time. Jytdog (talk) 15:02, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Admins I understand the kindness of the initial time-limited TBAN but this is appearing to be less and less appropriate here. Jytdog (talk) 15:03, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

I agree with all of the above and don't want to abuse the privilege of having the ability to edit here. I have explained my choice to make a page for Joe's Basecamp previously and I wouldn't have submitted it for review if my intentions were not in keeping with WP. My confession of things I have done wrong has been made in the hope you see that I can be better and show the WP community the respect it deserves. I've learned a lot in my time seriously editing here and have made very few mistakes... all of which I have been very upfront about above. I intend to continue getting better and more useful to the community. I request lenience in your decision and still have fingers crossed you'll let me continue editing. Dan Petley (talk) 15:17, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

...and I absolutely swear that I've only been using Dan Petley and Trufflegoblin Dan Petley (talk) 15:19, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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DYK
Hi Dan - see my reply to you on my talk page. Good luck! Nick Moyes (talk) 09:01, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

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"As a herbarium curator and botanical author myself, I was also quite interested in this article. However, it is far too detailed, over referenced. I struggled to some extent with her notability. Please cut down the repeat references and trivia. We don't need to know where she lives or what the name of her cat is, for example. We just need one reference for each key fact."

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Nick Moyes (talk) 09:44, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

About Jessica Rosemary Shepherd - problems - your thoughts about this?
Hi Goblin Roger House, Quite frankly in its current form this article reads more like a fan site than an encyclopedia article. Were this article was nominated for speedy deletion under the WP:G11 criterion, I would most probably agree with deletion as it is a page " exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to conform with NOTFORPROMOTION" Looking at the references: And so on. Your thoughts about this? --Shirt58 (talk) 10:50, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * https://www.stephenongpin.com/object/791190/0/030320161305-cabbage-leaf-brassica is from commercial art dealer's website. This simply evidences that Ms Shepherd is a commercial artist
 * https://partners.vice.com/stichting-bloemenbureau-holland/favouriteflower/news/the-new-wave-of-insta-creatives-using-flowers-in-their-art/ - a mention of Ms Shepherd noted as "Partner Content" of the Vice (magazine), not that magazine itself.

Hi Shirt58, thanks for your message, I agree the 'partner content' Vice magazine reference is a bit fishy and the commercial art dealer citation can be done away with. I'm happy to remove anything that seems too commercial. As someone who has talked to a lot of illustrators in the past I know that botanical illustration has a reputation for being soulless, but this is definitely unfair. The academic obsession that accompanies this kind of work is more dedicated than a lot of other disciplines. I think while I was writing it I got a bit too into it and probably went overboard with citations... I'll cut these back today. I've been curious about this kind of work for a while and the only botanical painters represented on Wikipedia died over 100 years ago so I chose a book from my mother's shelf and started writing.Goblin Roger House (talk) 11:12, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks Rosguill, yes I probably got a bit carried away with Arthur David Eyton-Jones, it's a pretty interesting story! Thanks for drawing my attention to it... I'll cut it back and make sure any uncited content is done away with. Goblin Roger House (talk) 07:08, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

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Paid editing disclosure required
Hello Goblin Roger House. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, and that you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to Black hat SEO.

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 * Hello GSS, I never have and never will receive money for creating or editing Wikipedia pages and following some early misunderstandings about Wikipedia editing I never make pages for people who I have met in real life. I enjoy making information that I have found interesting accessible to other people because this is what I have always used Wikipedia for, however these days I even try not to make pages that could cross the 'fandom' threshold because I want to follow the rules and be as un-biassed as possible! Please give me guidance on how to improve the pages that have been flagged, because I'm proud of all the pages I have made (and edited) and want them to be as useful and informative as possible. I'm also proud to learn and improve at this voluntary pass-time as it gives me a chance to be a part of something important outside of my busy working life. Of course, paid editing would be stressful, exactly what I don't need! Goblin Roger House (talk) 11:50, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Information from your upwork profile suggests otherwise. Blocked for undisclosed paid editing. Yunshui 雲 水 14:44, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * At least four of the articles you have created (Draft:Ed Eisen (moved to draft from article space), Joe's Basecamp (created by one of your sockpuppets and deleted under G11), Joe Bonington (also created by a sock) and Sue Samuels) were advertised on Upwork prior to your creation of them, and your Upwork profile contains at least one Wikipedia work in progress and at least one completed Wikipedia job which has been reviewed. Evidently your clients don't listen too hard when you tell them that money doesn't buy a presence on Wikipedia. Yunshui 雲 水 09:04, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

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