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DYK for Marian Koshland
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Good work!
Hi, I know you have done much good work in providing infoboxes for book articles. Any chance that you could do the same for Big Pharma, Killer Company, and The World Nuclear Industry Status Report, (2012 report has a nice cover image here). Thank you for any help you are able to give. Johnfos (talk) 06:30, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Let me know if you see any more that need infoboxes. Cheers, Gobōnobo  + c 17:17, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You are a wonder and a marvel!! Those images really help to lift the page, don't they... cheers, john

DYK for Heist: Who Stole the American Dream?
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Image of Peter Dennis Mitchell
Please confirm that you are the owner of the above-captioned image. If so, I would like permission to use this image, but I understand it might qualify as a fair use image and is not in the public domain.

If you are the owner, I will be pleased to explain the circumstance under which I would like to use the image.

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 * Hi Dtresnik. I am not the owner of File:Peter Dennis Mitchell.jpg and cannot give permission to use it. The image is being used on Wikipedia under a fair use rationale and is from the Nobel Foundation's website (found here). As far as I know, the image is not in the public domain. The Nobel Foundation lists info@nobel.se as their contact email for permission to use photographs. Hope that helps. Cheers, Gobōnobo  + c 00:44, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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Great work!! Mind the gap!

 * Thank you very much Sarah. Credit should also be given to Maile66, who has been creating and expanding women's hall of fame articles and lists. I'm similarly looking forward to creating articles for some of those red links. Congratulations on your recent RFA. Gobōnobo  + c 19:07, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you Zapwai. Gobōnobo  + c 15:46, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Genre advice
Hi. Since you're a member of Wikiproject hip hop, I thought i'd ask you about this. Is the former "electronic hip hop" an appropriate way of linking, or would "hip hop" be the more appropriate/ correct choice for an infobox's genre? Dan56 (talk) 03:50, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not necessarily an authority on hip hop genres or their application in song infoboxes, but I think Minaj's song would most aptly be described as electro-hop (not to be confused with electro (music)). As electro-hop doesn't have an article, a piped link such as electro-hop might be an option for the time being. I would consider hip hop the parent genre, though the electronic influences are heavy. Gobōnobo  + c 12:21, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks and etc.
Just wanted to thank you for adding all the photos over the last little bit. Impressed with the Hall of Fame of Delaware Women that you did. Putting these Halls of Fame into a list, and creating some articles, has been a bit of a window into the soul of a given geographical area. I have been really fascinated by the women in Alaska. Particularly the female pilots, and the women of indigenous ancestry on the lists. The movies got it wrong - they weren't all in dance halls seducing gold miners. So many on that list didn't originate in Alaska, that it's like some force drawing those women (and men) up to Alaska to make their own rules. Maile66 (talk) 18:56, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Maile66. I was inspired by your example and work on the halls of fame. Working on Delaware's got me interested in the Silent Sentinels and the suffrage movement in general. My only disappointment is that every state doesn't have a hall of fame. I look forward to creating articles for some of those red links (as well as the requested articles at the Women's History project). Let me know if you ever want to collaborate on any of these or if there's anything else I can do. Cheers, Gobōnobo  + c 15:46, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * By the way, your mention of the Silent Sentinels. Have you seen Iron Jawed Angels? It's about Alice Paul and those women, among other things. I've tried to imagine what it must have been like, emotionally, at the exact moment when they learned they had the vote. One moment, they're just some man's property.  The next moment, they had power and a voice.  The celebration must have been overwhelming.Maile66 (talk) 20:47, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah I just went and saw that after my interest was piqued in their protest. Even after they secured Congressional approval, they had to get 2/3 of the states to agree as well, so I imagine it was frustratingly slow. I think the movement was also divisive for many suffragists. I'm curious to read more about the origins of the movement and Emmeline Pankhurst. Gobōnobo  + c 23:02, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * One of my favorite all-time movies. But I realized after I did the article on Minnie Fisher Cunningham, that Cunningham was very much an integral part of what happened, and was not in the movie. Movies tend to fudge a little here and there.  But still a great movie. Maile66 (talk) 00:08, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I am not alone...ahh. Sometimes we gotta wonder on Wikipedia where nobody knows who else is on the same topic. I got into the hall of fames inspired by the Alabama Women's Hall of Fame, and it was easy for me to find information to create the one on Texas.  From there, it just kind of went on.  And it's a great way to find articles about women that need creating. When I created  Template: United States Women's Halls of Fame, I searched state-by-state trying to find what is in the states.  You and I may have maxed out on this.  I do know there are a couple that make it somewhat difficult to do a list on them, because they don't have accompanying information on the women they inducted: Oregon Women of Achievement Hall of Fame and Louisiana Women's Hall of Fame.  Already existing is the stubbie Ohio Women's Hall of Fame, but when you look at the Source, you can understand why it never got expanded.  I have the feeling that other states might have these, but they just aren't showing up online.  Can you imagine that California would not have one?  Or New York?  Maile66 (talk) 20:32, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you brought this up. I had some difficulty creating Delaware because they only had the master list of the women. I searched for them separately, but was unable to find any details on several and still don't have the induction years for many of them. I'm working on Ohio in this sandbox and the table should be ready fairly soon. There are other Hall of Fame lists I found that are not state-sponsored, but could be helpful for finding women that could use articles. There's the Georgia Women of Achievement and the Central City Business and Professional Women has a Kentucky Women's Hall of Fame. There are also some smaller regional Halls of Fame - San Diego County, California has its own Women's Hall of Fame. Gobōnobo  + c 23:02, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * How did you get all those names in one place for the Ohio list? All I see when I go to the Ohio state page is a grid where you have to keep forwarding every few names.  OK, we maybe could start working with each other here.  I just found a couple of sources, and the year of induction, on the Delaware H of F for Roxana Cannon Arsht. I'll keep looking at the Delaware list and see what I can come up with. I just completed the Maryland Women's Hall of Fame the other day.  I keep a sandbox of useful links and things Here. You're welcome to browse it and use what might work for you. Maile66 (talk) 00:08, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Some of those links and tools will definitely come in handy. I pulled the Ohio names ten at a time and pasted them into a document. I'm thinking I'll try to get in touch with the Delaware Commission for Women and ask them if they can provide the induction dates and brief descriptions for the ones we're missing. Gobōnobo  + c 00:27, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I've been looking at what you found at the Georgia Women of Achievement. I believe that's their official hall of fame, given what it says under "About". And this list is a goody, whichever one of us gets to it first (or jointly) to do this one.  It seems to be very informative and useful. Maile66 (talk) 11:16, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * If you enjoy putting these together, by all means, take Georgia. I could do it too, but otherwise I'll probably get to work on uploading images or getting a start on some of those red links. Gobōnobo  + c 17:01, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll think about Georgia for a while. "Enjoy" is not exactly my motivation on these.  It's more like filling the need to put an order to topic, so that anyone can then address whether or not to create articles in that US state.  Tedious, but a necessary Step One   Right now, I have some RL  priorities, so Georgia will happen whenever either of us gets to it.  You do great work, by the way. Maile66 (talk) 17:39, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Tip for you
Let's see if I can get this to link correctly: Sandbox version of Maryland. This really is subjective, depending on how you work best. But I found it a time saver in the long haul to create the template on the same page, at the same time, that I'm creating the H of F list. As I create each name, I copy it down to the template. Tedious, but it saves flipping back and forth to another page to create the template. And then after I've done an eyeball comparison at the end, just move the two to their own pages to create. Maile66 (talk) 11:31, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * And then again, looking at your sandbox, maybe you have a more efficient way of doing exactly that. Maile66 (talk) 16:04, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I think I do something similar. I basically just borrowed your template and plugged in new values. For Ohio I added a county column. I have a vague inclination to redo the Michigan H of F to separate out the birth-death date, make the area of achievement column more specific, and maybe eliminate the contemporary/historical and "group" columns. Gobōnobo  + c 16:51, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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Fantastic Voyage II
Thanks for the infobox and cover photo on Fantastic Voyage II. Copyright justifications are non-trivial. Mcavic (talk) 04:15, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

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Humble request
Hi, Hope this is not "stretching the friendship", but wonder if you could add some images please to Acres of Skin, The Plutonium Files, and The Protest Psychosis: How Schizophrenia Became a Black Disease. Many thanks... Johnfos (talk) 16:30, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Not at all. Thanks for creating those articles. Gobōnobo  + c 05:14, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You've done a wonderful job -- thank you. Johnfos (talk) 20:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

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blah
Regarding Ileana Ros-Lehtinen. I will say whatever I damn well please about that stinking, lying, hypocritical, two faced, evil, backsliding, warmongering, retarded piece of scumsucking filth that I wish. She is a total moronic bitch and you do not reflect any of her oh so many negative traits at all. Some encyclopedia! Maybe you're a stupid republican. As a yankoff you would definately be a dumbass like the rest of your rapidly declining shithole of a nation. SCREW AMERICA!!! A country that has always stood for repression, opression, war, death, dishonesty, despotism, fascism, hate, genocide, greed, ignorance, stupidity, dictatorship and evil. Better learn Chinese mate as they own you. Don't have a nice day, and do enjoy your decline as the rest of the world is. Oh and try not to break/kill anything on your way out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.26.72 (talk) 17:54 14 July 2012

AFT5 newsletter
Hey again all :). So, some big news, some small news, some good news, some bad news!

On the "big news" front; we've now deployed AFT5 on to 10 percent of articles, This is pretty awesome :). On the "bad news", however, it looks like we're having to stop at 10 percent until around September - there are scaling issues that make it dangerous to deploy wider. Happily, our awesome features engineering team is looking into them as we speak, and I'm optimistic that the issues will be resolved.

For both "small" and "good" news; we've got another office hours session. This one is tomorrow, at 22:00 UTC in - I appreciate it's a bit late for Europeans, but I wanted to juggle it so US east coasters could attend if they wanted :). Hope to see you all there!

image request
I don't know if you can come up with for an image for Leonie von Meusebach–Zesch, but it would be great if you might. Along the lines of Alaska itself creating some larger-than-life characters, I got sidetracked reading about Leonhard Seppala, and wondered why Robert Redford (in his younger days) never made a movie, starring himself, as Seppala. Maile66 (talk) 16:58, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Redford would have made a great Seppala. I've uploaded File:Leonie von Meusebach–Zesch circa 1904.jpg and sent an email to the Alaska Hall of Fame to see if they can provide any more details on that particular photo. I want to be sure I'm using the correct license there. I imagine her autobiography has more photographs, but details on when they were taken and by whom as well as when/if they were published all go into determining licensing. Excellent article on her, by the way. I'll go ahead and nominate it for a DYK if you don't mind. Gobōnobo  + c 23:29, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I'm sitting here with a library copy of Leonie's book, which I used as a basis for this article. That photo is on the back cover. This is not a book that gives details on photo copyrights, but just says the contents are Copyright 2011 by The Jane G. Troutman Family Trust. The family/publisher contact info is at this link: Book contact info.. It has an email address.  The Hall of Fame is a little loose on some facts (her birthdate, claiming her mother was a duchess, other details). You might find the book people a better source on the copyright issue. Other photos in the book would not be so clear for the article, except perhaps the cover photo. It's the same one as Here, but with more definition.  There's a luscious photo of Seppala and his Husky  in there.
 * Go ahead and nominate for DYK if you like. The reason I didn't, is because it's such a long article. This is one of the most fascinating women I've ever read about. Of course, it helps if you have family money - as I think she did - so, you don't worry so much about keeping a roof over your head. Maile66 (talk) 23:53, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the DYK, and for the "Inuit" change. Of all I read in her book, crawling across that ice to save the dogs impressed me the most. Maile66 (talk) 14:03, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Certainly. That incident struck me as the most hook-worthy in the article. Feel free to change the language of the hook if you'd like. I emailed the book publisher about the photographs. There are also a few images from the San Francisco Chronicle article about her that may be in the public domain. Gobōnobo  + c 22:00, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

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More images requested please...
Would be most grateful for images on these articles please, if you are willing... Madhouse: A Tragic Tale of Megalomania and Modern Medicine, European Cases of the Reincarnation Type, Irreducible Mind, Life After Life, and Side Effects (book). Many thanks... Johnfos (talk) 18:31, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. I enjoy doing these, so keep em coming. The only downside is that they often lengthen what is already a frighteningly long list of must reads. Gobōnobo  + c 18:49, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

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Mel Powell
Hi Gobonobo. Just wanted to say thanks for adding the image to the Mel Powell Wiki. Can I ask some advice? Do you usually have pretty good luck licensing the images the way you set that one up? I've had hit & miss luck over the years and honestly find some of the rules & restrictions a real confusing headache at times. It's so frustrating to go through all the uploading, put the image in a Wiki and then have it deleted. If the non-free rationale and wording you used on Mel works pretty well I might pull a "monkey see, monkey do" and copy the jist of it for some I want to upload. Thanks and have a great Wiki kind of day! Sector001 (talk) 17:35, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Sector001. If you're going to upload images of people using fair use rationales, be sure you're familiar with the non-free content criteria (NFCC). You'll need to be sure that your upload satisfies all ten criteria there. Editors will sometimes interpret these criteria differently and request a review. Images from the Associated Press, Corbis, Getty, and newspaper file photos are often interpreted as violating NFCC#2. Understanding transformation and fair use helps, but isn't necessary.


 * The sort of rationale I used for Mel Powell wouldn't work for a living person and wouldn't work if there were any freely licensed images available. Always check for free images first (at the very least using a tool like the Free Image Search Tool; though a more thorough check is preferred, usually determined by the subject and time frame). Fair use files are also made redundant when editors upload free versions. While it's not possible that the entirety of Wikipedia be covered under the GFDL, limiting the amount of non-free content minimizes legal exposure and makes a greater portion of Wikipedia free. Also be aware that fair use files uploaded locally will only be usable on the English Wikipedia. I hope that helps. Good luck and let me know if you need any help or run in to any problems. Gobōnobo  + c 18:41, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

 * Looks truly scrumptious. Thank you, Johnfos. Gobōnobo  + c 23:08, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thanks for your uploading of the slew of recent images. I have little knowledge of the licensing rules and am glad to see images by an editor who knows what they are doing. The poetry bods thank you. Best wishes Span (talk) 11:05, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you Spanglej. Gobōnobo  + c 07:30, 14 August 2012 (UTC)