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Thanks for helping our Wikibomb 2014! We have made over 70 new pages about Australian women scientists.

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 * Thank you Bellacounihan. It's been really impressive to watch the progress on Twitter and at Category:Wikibomb2014. I hope we can get some of our editors from WikiProject Women scientists to help out too. gobonobo  + c 06:39, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Middayexpress. I'd normally put a note on a talk page, but I wasn't sure which one was most appropriate. I put hatnotes on the articles for Mohammed Noor and Mohamed Noor. I saw your corrections and I just wonder if 'computer scientist' is the best disambiguator for Mohamud Noor. While that was his profession for a few years, he is now executive director of a non-profit community center. I decided to opt for 'politician' only because that is probably what he is best known for. I worry that a reader who was looking for Mohamud Noor that finds themselves on one of the other articles would be unlikely to identify him as a 'computer scientist'. Maybe we could make this moot by creating a disambiguation page for Moham(m)e/ud Noors? gobonobo + c 18:54, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Gobonobo. While Noor indeed isn't presently a computer scientist, he isn't an officeholder either. He also has a degree in computer science. A disambiguation page for Mohamed/Mohammed would make sense; Mohamud is a different first name, though. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:03, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Well actually no. He got the degree and retains the knowledge, so I don't think he ever stopped being a computer scientist. But readers who search for him wouldn't necessarily know that he happened to have a degree in the field. For all they know he might be a geneticist or a footballer. I don't think one has to be an officeholder to be a politician. While Mohamud/Maxamuud/Mahmoud are different than Mohammed/Mohamed, the M. Noor names are homophonous and easily confused, so it's reasonable to conclude that a reader might find themselves looking for the name on a disambiguation page for all of these articles. Are you suggesting that the hatnote is unnecessary? Or that we should create a disambiguation page for Mohamed/Mohammed that excludes Mohamud Noor? I don't understand what you want here. gobonobo  + c 19:41, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Here's the definition of politician: "A politician, political leader, or political figure (from Classical Greek πόλις, "polis") is a person who is involved in influencing public policy and decision making." Noor isn't really in a position to do that at the moment, so "computer scientist" is indeed more immediately relevant. Mohamed/Mohammed/Muhammad and Mohamud/Mohamoud are altogether different names, with different etymologies. I bring this up to show that the necessity of the hatnote with regard to the differently named Mohamud is arguable, not just "politician" vs. "computer scientist". Please leave a response if any here (or feel free to delete this userspace post per WP:HUSH). Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 20:00, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * You say that Noor isn't a 'politician' because he "isn't really in a position to do that at the moment". And while he isn't currently an officeholder, he just made a highly newsworthy bid for state legislature. If you take a closer look at the definition of politician (I'm assuming we're using the Wikipedia definition here) you will find that it indicates that the term includes people who seek those positions as well as those who have them. I think most political scientists would agree that you don't have to be an elected official to be a politician. But you say that 'computer scientist' is "immediately relevant" even though you previously argued that he wasn't presently a computer scientist. As a school board member, Noor has influenced public policy and decision making. Moreover, his only reason for having an article in the first place is his repeated candidacy for office (in 2010 for school board, as well as in 2011, 2012, and 2014 for state legislature). He is known for being a politician, not for being a computer scientist. Also, I don't think it is that unreasonable to think that people might misspell Mohamud Noor as Mohamed Noor or even Mohammed Noor. While the etymologies are different, the triconsonantal root is the same and the nuance of the pronunciation is probably lost on Western ears.
 * Since you mentioned WP:HUSH and seem to be unwilling to host a conversation on your talk page, let me just add that I hope I haven't posted anything there that annoys or embarrasses you. If so, it wasn't my intention. I'm certainly willing to keep the conservation here if that's more comfortable for you. gobonobo  + c 21:04, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, cause for a minute there I was under the impression that you perhaps didn't want the conversation here since you removed it when I first pasted it onto your userpage (which is your prerogative). At any rate, though there indeed are exceptions and it could be argued that Noor is a politician, most political scientists do regard a "politician" as an actual active officeholder ("someone who is active in government usually as an elected official"; "a person experienced in the art or science of government; especially: one actively engaged in conducting the business of a government"; "a person engaged in party politics as a profession" ). Someone who is no longer in office would thus be a "former politician". Even if we regard Noor's school board position as a political rather than an academic tenure, he secured it only a few months ago. By contrast, he has an actual degree in computer science and worked for many years in information technology for the government. To be honest, I'm not even certain that the whole hatnote with regard to Mohamud is necessary since "Mohamud" is actually a variation of Mahmud rather than the different name Mohamed. The two names do have the same Arabic triconsonantal root of Ḥ-M-D, but then again so do Hamid and Ahmed, among other separate names. Phonologically, the situation is similar to Sarah (given name) vs. Sahra/Zahra (name); they too sound similar but are ultimately different names, with different spellings. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 16:14, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

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References for article on Imidacloprid
Hi there, Gonobo. A couple of years ago you filled in some citations for the article on imidacloprid including a citation supporting a claim that the poison is effective in killing fleas both via contact and when ingested (here). You didn't make the original claim, but you found what looked to be a reference to support it. I've been looking into this, and it looks like we have a problem (unless I am mistaken about something): the citation you found only supports the claim (not being made in the article) that the poison, when consumed, has toxic effects on non-target animals like rats and mice. The primary route to killing fleas, its actual target, is via contact and specifically NOT via ingestion (according to Mehlhorn H, Mencke N, Hansen O. Effects of imidacloprid on adult and larval stages of the flea Ctenocephalides felis after in vivo and in vitro application: a light- and electron-microscopy study. Parasitol Res, 1999, 85:625-637, as available in summary in another article here). I am contacting you to ask if I am misunderstanding something, or if you were just inattentive in your choice of citations supporting a claim... Because it looks to me like the claim is incorrect, wherever it may have come from, and needs to be replaced with the correct information and a correct reference, which I am prepared to do, but not without consulting you first. Can you help me out here? Thanks!  KDS 4444 Talk  07:40, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi. I didn't add that claim or the reference to the article. The link for the reference was already there. It was added here by Tcprosser. I just reformatted the reference. Hope that helps, gobonobo  + c 21:27, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

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I guess I'm a girly man about how the administrivia works here, never much got involved with it before.

But I thought you reverted my comments here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:175.143.232.3#September_2014, where am I supposed to document that that IP is repeatedly vandalizing a page?

Turns out, 175.143.232.3 edited their talk page and reverted my addition. Now someone has added it back with another username. "Denisarona".

Sigh, edit wars.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.178.100.75 (talk) 15:55, September 8, 2014


 * It looks as if the IP has been blocked. gobonobo  + c 23:16, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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Hello Gobonobo, I am pleased to meet you. I have question about non profit I sent to your email. I was unsure about privacy issues. Thank you for your helpSamjam830 (talk) 02:45, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi. I didn't receive an email from you. Could you try to send it again? gobonobo  + c 06:09, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello Gobonobo, Thank you for your reply about not receiving my email. I think I will try talk page.
 * I am enrolled in a Global Youth Studies Class at Drake University and we have been asked to either edit or create a page for our class. My question is; Do you think it would be appropriate for me to create a page about a non profit that I work for? The program is a community Restorative Justice program based in West Des Moines Iowa it is called West Des Moines Youth Justice Initiative. My goals would be to share information on the program from newspaper articles, graduate research, award received etc. The page would also tie into restorative justice, juvenile delinquency, youth court and other areas of interest and concern. Any input you could provide would be great. Thank youSamjam830 (talk)  — Preceding undated comment added 19:01, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * You definitely should not create an article for the non-profit you work for. While your non-profit may be perfectly notable and deserving of an article, creating an article for a place you work for is strongly discouraged by the conflict of interest guideline (see WP:COI). I would suggest trying to find a broader topic along the lines of restorative justice or youth courts. As yours is a project for a global youth studies class, you might also consider an organization or topic that is not related to the US. gobonobo  + c 19:25, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

New navbox
Have a look at this new navbox I just finished, and tell me what you think. Feel free to add or remove anything to improve on it. Thanks again for your kindness in talking me back into the project; I forgot how much I liked doing these. I've got to do something for this generic little thing soon... Also, if you see a woman writer with enough articles on her works to require a navbox, let me know. Me, Sadads, and TonyTheTiger have done so many, it's hard to find writers in need of them. Tony was doing navboxes on individual works a while back, so I'll have to see about finding the ones on works by women and project tagging those. INeverCry 07:38, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for creating that INeverCry. I'm glad you're back. I was surprised to see that no one had created a navbox for Goldman before. I've always liked that mug shot you used. I'll let you know if I find any writers who could use one. gobonobo  + c 09:53, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

BRD cycle.
See Talk:Margery Deane -- PBS (talk) 20:28, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. I've replied over there. gobonobo  + c 21:06, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Re: Cordelia Stanwood
Thanks for your kind words. Actually, I consider my draft article quite a long way from being ready to go live in mainspace. Stanwood is best known as an ornithologist but that section of the article currently consists of only a few notes to myself. I'm working on the structure and wording of the section off-line in a text editor. I find it difficult to remain neutral and encyclopedic. Each time I revisit my off-line notes and draft, I cut much of what I wrote as being too much detail. Next is her photography. Again, my problem is what's appropriate and how much detail. Most references are full of quips about how she enlisted boys to carry the heavy equipment and plates into the swamps and about her always wearing long skirts with waders as footwear underneath. There's also the loss and then rediscovery of the original photographic plates; how much of that story belongs in the encyclopedia? Conservation activism and an intro/explanation of her writing for popular periodicals needs to be added, too.

For me, writing Wikipedia is a foul weather activity. Most of my days are now spent outdoors in my gardens, bird trails and with grandkids. I'll get back to my writing about dead (and living) ornithologists once the garden is put to bed for the winter. Most of the birds have already started their southern migration and the last of the residents are ending their breeding season. Grandkids are back in school, no longer hanging out with grandpa. Even though I haven't made a live edit to the draft since early spring, I haven't forgotten or abandoned Stanwood. I'll be back at it when winter and shorter days drive me inside. I would like to see the Stanwood article featured on the main page so I don't want to move it to mainspace until it's essentially complete and suitable for DYK.

If you'd like to help flesh out the article, jump right in. I doubt that edit conflicts will happen and I don't believe in ownership, even of a userspace draft. The Richardson thesis at is a thorough bio but written from a feminist POV. It's a great source for adding more. I purchased all the dead-tree books used as references from used bookstores (and will sell them once the article is live). Some of the on-line sources are contradictory (grumble) so I chose the older print sources as most reliable. The Richardson thesis is consistent and well sourced so I've depended on it as the most reliable.

Thanks again, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·ʇuoɔ) Join WER 14:59, 17 September 2014 (UTC) PS: Post any reply here. I'll watch your page for a bit.


 * Thank you for following up. I'm impressed with the effort you're dedicating to Stanwood's article and hope that you do save the effort for the foul weather. If your garden is anything like mine right now, you have more eggplant, tomatoes and squash than you know what to do with. Based on the quality and sourcing that I've seen so far, I wouldn't be surprised if you have a GA for Stanwood in short order. I'll take a look at the Richardson thesis—I'm surprised to see such a detailed account. gobonobo  + c 21:44, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Could use your expertise!
Hello! I am currently taking a course, Global Youth Studies. As one of the ambassadors for our editing on Wikipedia, I am sure you are aware of student expectations. I am interested in possibly editing the Wikipedia page, Statutory rape. I am interested in gathering information in Africa. Can you point me in the right direction regarding resources? Thank you in advance! Hatigges (talk) 02:51, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi there. Statutory rape laws are of course going to vary from country to country. I recommend that you make searches of both your university library and online databases such like JSTOR. The best sources will probably be recent journal articles and books. A search of google books/scholar brought up several sources that seemed promising. Here are a couple:
 * "Africa: The Criminal Justice System and the Problem of Domestic Violence in West Africa", Encyclopedia of Domestic Violence
 * Legislating Gender-based Violence in Post-conflict Africa
 * You might want also to check out the Wikipedia articles for virgin cleansing myth, ages of consent in Africa, and sexual violence in South Africa. They may have sources that you could make use of. I hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions. gobonobo  + c 15:13, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for taking the time in sending me in the right direction. I will certainly follow up on your suggestions. Honestly, I did not respond sooner because I was unsure of exactly how to respond. With that, I hope this message reaches the appropriate destination and finds you well.Hatigges (talk) 23:02, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, thanks for uploading an image of Margaret Stock. I did not realize the image in the Macarther website was under creative commons license. That makes things so easy! Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:03, 22 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for creating her article! There are a couple more images of Stock over at Commons if you'd like to change the image out. gobonobo  + c 14:07, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * wow, that's interesting. Already so many images! No, I don't think I am going to change the image. This one is just fine.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:14, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Gobonobo - I notice you added a very nice infobox to American Craft Council. Since you have given latitude and longitude, I wonder if it would also be appropriate to add the address that is associated with them. I do not know it.--Foobarnix (talk) 23:27, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. gobonobo  + c 23:30, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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I'm writing to let you know that the logo which had been placed on Thefederalist.com apparently belongs to a different web site. See http://web.archive.org/web/19981111191626/http://www.federalist.com/ -- Federalist.com was using that in 1998, whereas Thefederalist.com did not begin until 2013 (and uses a different logo -- see http://thefederalist.com/). Hence, it may no longer even be appropriate to keep File:Thefederalist.gif in Wikipedia as it would no longer be used in an article and thus no longer be subject to fair use criteria. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:10, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
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 * Hi Innisfree4thee. I undid your edit where you added a claim that Dukakis was remembered for "a quixotic quest to eliminate the use off yellow barrels as highway markers" because it was unsourced. Minor incidents from people's careers such as that one are usually not added to articles, as they provide undue weight (see WP:UNDUE/WP:BLP). gobonobo  + c 00:40, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

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Why are you removing my edits? For Feminism and Fairness (talk) 06:22, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Dude, stop changing correct grammar back to incorrect grammar. For Feminism and Fairness (talk) 06:24, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * , and which past editor are you? You clearly aren't new to editing Wikipedia, with the whole "Content dispute" title and signing your username on your first post. No need to reply on my talk page; I can simply check back here for your reply. Flyer22 (talk) 06:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've edited as an ip for a long time. Also, please actually ANSWER MY QUESTION For Feminism and Fairness (talk) 06:30, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * , I don't buy your explanation. Also, you didn't ask me a question. My username is Flyer22. You asked Gobonobo a question. Flyer22 (talk) 06:32, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've editing as an ip long enough to know that you should not be writing here as you are not Gobonobo. Also, if you guys BOTH don't provide a explanation i will take you to WP:ANI (yeah i know about ani as well) For Feminism and Fairness (talk) 06:33, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You're probably a man, judging by your stupidity. All men are assholes... For Feminism and Fairness (talk) 06:36, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I reverted edits where you listed Weekly Shōnen Jump as a pornographic magazine. It does not fit that description. Your trolling is rather obvious, and not welcome here. gobonobo  + c 06:39, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Fucking male, I'm not fucking trolling you woman-hating PIG For Feminism and Fairness (talk) 06:40, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * [ WP:Edit conflict ]: Gobonobo does not mind me posting on his user talk page. Also see WP:Talk; we have leeway on our talk pages, but we don't WP:Own them. But something tells me that you are a WP:Troll; look at this edit you made, for example? You're simply a past WP:Disruptive editor come back to stir up trouble, particularly to make women and/or feminism look bad. And, yes, I know that some people (especially some men) think that women and/or feminism are already bad. WP:Sockpuppets rarely fool me; I usually spot them instantly. But, yes, go mention this "Gobonobo and Flyer22" matter at WP:ANI; it will be fun. You probably also know that I'm female. Flyer22 (talk) 06:43, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * That is true http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/6/michelle-obama-women-are-smarter-than-men/ even fucking Obama admits it. You are just a filthy male pretending to be a woman and an insult to Feminism, the only reason women are not dominating the world and fucking forcing those fucking male PIGS to work is because of women like you who think we're all "equal" For Feminism and Fairness (talk) 06:46, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * LOL, there are editors who can "testify" that I'm female because they've had visual proof of that. As for you? Not so much. LOL, you are so transparent. Time to ignore you now. Flyer22 (talk) 06:50, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overselling#Transportation
Why were those bad edits? they referenced the stuff being cited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.181.14.145 (talk) 22:45, 14 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello 190.181.14.145. Are you referring to this edit or this one? Generally speaking, citations need to be attributed to reliable sources. gobonobo  + c 22:52, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Betsy Ross; Thanks
Thanks for restoring the original version. I tried to accommodate the changes recently made by another user but in fact just reverting them was the better course since the point is more appropriately made in the old version. Donner60 (talk) 21:49, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
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 * Yes. I agree. So just reverting the new edit was the best handling. Donner60 (talk) 03:04, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

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