User talk:Gobonobo/Archive 5

Your bot is messing up articles
Here. --Sum (talk) 20:18, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That was something I manually selected. George Keller was a pseudonym for Asger Jorn. I suppose it might have been better just to unlink the name though.  Gobonobo  T C 20:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * The mess was that the edit added the ref brakets to all the links in the further reading section. The edit summary was misleading too.--Sum (talk) 10:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I see it now. I'll try to watch those more carefully. Thanks,  Gobonobo  T C 15:30, 13 July 2010 (UTC)


 * The bot just came by some articles I watch. I didn't see any big issues with the automated edits in the diffs. I'll keep an eye on how the bot works where I see it in action, and let you know. Interesting user page, by the way. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 03:32, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

File:Kit body Kenya7rugby.png listed for deletion
It is in use on this page Kenya national rugby union team (sevens). Thank you for your interest. Mbwa mwitu (talk) 18:25, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Armajaro
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Richard Blumenthal
I have changed the section on Richard Blumenthal's later controversy regarding his enlistment in the Marine Corps Reserve. Please review my edit and let me know what you feel needs clarification.-- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 18:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Linda McMahon
I would like to commend you on your work streamlining the references on this article. Awesome work!!! -- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 21:47, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Reflinks is very easy to use and can be found at the tool server if you'd like to try it. Gobonobo  T C 21:49, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Star
Your contributions say all that is needed to be said. Good stuff.
 * Muchas gracias Cptnono. Gobonobo  T C 06:15, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Please
Please stop editing Tom Perriello's page to portray in a move positive light. This is spsed to be neutral and it seems as if you are trying to suppress information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.53.208.121 (talk) 21:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Rod Shealy and family
You did a good job with the Rod Shealy article. However, I started aricles about his dad Ryan Shealy (South Carolina politician) and his sister Sherry Shealy Martschink-both of them served in the South Carolina Legislature. Feel free to look at them-Thanks-RFD (talk) 22:29, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Tyonajanegen
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 * Thanks for catching that. The length should be good now. Gobonobo  T C 05:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Horse hockey left on my talk page
Inamaka, please do not remove well -referenced content from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Kristi Noem. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Gobonobo T C 18:52, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Let me help you out. I don't know what game you are playing with the Kristi Noem article, but it is simple matter of how to edit it.  If the traffic violations are a valid topic for inclusion in the Noem article then the traffic violations of Noem's opponent's chief of staff ("COS") are ALSO valid for inclusion in the article.  Now, if the traffic violations are not valid for inclusion then the traffic violations of the COS are not valid for inclusion.  An admin removed the COS's DUI conviction for the Herseth Sandlin article because the admin argued that personal articles are NOT the place for every tit for tat of the campaign.  Noem's traffic violations are only in the news because of the give and take of the campaign--just as the DUI of the COS.  So applying the logic of the admin working the Herseth Sandlin article to the Noem article then traffic violations should not be included.  Also, there are BLP issues involved.  Do we want to put in Wikipedia the traffic violations of each and every person that has an article about them? No.  Please review the BLP rules.  There is also the issue of undue weight.  Listing all of her violations one by one takes up a huge part of her bio.  Now, you have been editing at Wikipedia for quite a long time now.  I have butted heads with you in the past.  You have given me the same inappropriate warning in the past.  You do not discuss the issues you just revert and then put warning above on my talk page.  From now on the burden in on you to DISCUSS.  Just don't tell people to discuss.  Start discussing. It is a delay tactic on your part.  If this had been the first time that you gave me that warning then I understanding but we have had this exact same discussion.  Also, I did discuss the changes on the edit summary.  And you know this.  I can tell by the way that edited my talk page. The original warning asks that comments be left in the edit summary--which I did--so you edited the warning to remove the part about discussing in the edit summary.  Now, unless you provide good reasoning on why either ALL of the traffic violations (and that includes the violations of Noem and the COS) belong in the article about Noem then I am going to remove the references to the traffic violations because they violate BLP and undue weight.  Now, in response to your warning, let this be fair warning to you that you need to start discussing issues before you blindly revert.--InaMaka (talk) 19:10, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Frank Fat's Restaurant
Hello Gobonobo. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Frank Fat's Restaurant, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: This isn't an attack page - it might even be notable. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 19:34, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I realise you didn't tag it first - the "CSDHelper" script isn't that intelligent. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:36, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for Tyonajanegen
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TUSC token 66f4695ec18c8aebcb26aa601a3374ae
I am now proud owner of a TUSC account! Gobonobo T C 17:30, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

template capitalization competition & reflist columns
Thank you for your attention to detail.

I've noticed that both and  replace each other. Either another user or a bot is going around capitalizing and you're decapitalizing. I don't remember who's capitalizing or I'd suggest something there, because, whichever convention is accepted, it would save the two of you a lot of work if agreement was reached. I capitalize since that seems to be the convention but I'm not sure that all templates have a consistent style.

On Reflist/reflist, I think a two-column layout is more readable than a single column, although I agree that a fixed width may be bad on some hardware and three or more columns is bad on some hardware. I'm going to continue using two columns unless you suggest a good reason for not. One difference may be that one column may be better for long URLs, although as long as they're clickable I'm not sure that matters, and I prefer to label external URLs with document titles or other information anyway.

Thanks again. Nick Levinson (talk) 03:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Nick. Thanks for you note. I've been using the Reflinks tool from the toolserver and set up the preferences to have it "apply common fixes," such as reference formatting. I'm usually filling in references for articles where I see bare urls or disambiguating - the changes in capitalization of and in parameters for  are often incidental (and hopefully benign). To my knowledge, it does not matter whether or not the c is capitalized in the cite template as it will render regardless. I agree that three columns should be avoided and I support you using two columns for reference sections. I'm generally happy when anyone uses references at all and especially so when they are well labeled. I've been making the switch to  instead of fixed columns for the more heavily referenced articles since it allows the number of columns to be selected based on the browser's width. Cheers,  Gobonobo  T C 06:05, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

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Nomination of List of people with reduplicated names for deletion
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Dale Robertson sign (Tea Party) section
Good job on finding sources for that issue. I thought it would take a couple of weekdays for people to find stuff and for it to be fixed but you fixed it pretty quickly. The article continues to be high profile and readers expect allegations to be well sourced. Gratz. Veriss (talk) 22:05, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I wasn't able to confirm some of the material from that section, so I left it out, but there seem to be some reliable sources that discuss the photoshopping of the original image.  Gobonobo  T C 23:28, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Alan Grayson
For whatever reason, you reverted perfectly unobjectionable edits to Alan Grayson, which incidentally did not remove content but rather moved it to other sections so the article would be more reader-friendly. Please be more careful when you revert possible vandalism. --SchutteGod (talk) 15:14, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

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Not a personal attack
It was not a personal attack by myself, he suggested it for himself I linked the definitions of the term. --93.82.8.84 (talk) 10:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Meg Whitman
Good on you for finding a reference. --Nuujinn (talk) 02:29, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I knew I had read about that the other day. Cheers,  Gobonobo  T C 02:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

United States Congress & Dab solver
Hi, you recently used this program (or some other additional program?) to make many changes to the above article. Unfortunately, in correcting miscapitalizations, the program introduced some of its own. For example, in author names, it changed RICHARD L. BERKE to Richard l. berke (there are many changes like that one). Anyway to fix this other than by hand?--Bbb23 (talk) 23:05, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for leaving a message. It looks like there were some changes with the autofixing that Reflinks does.  I can revert the change(s) and turn off the autofix function for the time being.  Gobonobo  T C 23:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I can see you struggled to make that work and ended up having to do a fair amount of manual work. It was very good of you to do so, thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks!
I keep running across your userid in various articles, and just wanted to say thanks for all your efforts to keep things cleaned up. :-) Flatterworld (talk) 20:59, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you Flatterworld. I appreciate all of your work on political articles as well. Let me know if you need help with anything. Cheers, Gobonobo  T C 16:59, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

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Lossy compression artifacts in File:Wired magazine June 1997.png
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 * Hi Lx45803. Thanks for your note. I've uploaded a new version of the file that I hope is devoid of .jpg artifacts. I took the cover image from here as it was one of the only images I could find of that particular cover. I wanted to use this specific cover as it was listed as one of ASME's top 40 covers of the past 40 years . Could you take a look at the new version and see if it looks any better? I'm not attached to having the magazine cover in the infobox and could see including it in the body of the article if it's not too blurry. Gobonobo  T C 16:53, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

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"Left-wing" & "regularly"
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 * Hi Drrll. I feel that it is unnecessary to precede every instance of Democracy Now! in Wikipedia with "left-wing." As it stands, the article for Democracy Now! does not even mention that the show is left-wing. I would support some referenced inclusion of the left-wingedness of that show in its article, but your inclusion of a stand alone paragraph saying He/she appears regularly on the left-wing Democracy Now! show. on multiple BLPs stood out to me as coatrack-y. I don't have a strong opinion on the inclusion of the word regularly, but I do have concerns about giving undue weight to that particular show when people may have appeared on many different shows.  Gobonobo  T C 21:17, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

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Roxman
Thanks, Gobonobo, for moving the photo of Susanna Roxman to the more normal position; also, for enlarging the picture a bit. The page looks much smarter this way. Would it be possible for you to enlarge the photo a little more? Most portraits on the Wikipedia seem to be larger. I'm not sure how to do this. The picture would have to be moved down, slightly, for this purpose. Again, thank you for your neat and professional help!Smilesofasummernight (talk) 13:04, 31 October 2010 (UTC) smilesofasummernight  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smilesofasummernight (talk • contribs) 12:59, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Smilesofasummernight. I resized the image to 300px which is about as high as we can go according to MOS:IMAGES. It is of course possible to crop the image as well, but that probably wouldn't increase the resolution significantly. Cheers, Gobonobo  T C 15:32, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Gobonobo,   That's great -- and you've been very quick! Cheers, smilesofasummernightSmilesofasummernight (talk) 19:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Sami People
Hi Gobonobo - first, glad to have met you at the meet-up... Second, thank you for drawing attention for both Lapps in Scandinavian folklore and Lapps in Finnish folklore. Both are *really* bad articles. I request deletion for both for the reasons stated there. They're both beyond recovery. I didn't know this kind of crap was still out there. Thanks and take care... Dinky town  talk  01:36, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It was good to meet you too. Both of those articles looked dreadful, thank you for prodding them. Gobonobo  T C 01:44, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

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Suggestions for next Minnesota meetup?
Hi, Gobonobo, do you have any suggestions for a next date or place for a Minnesota meetup? I was disappointed to miss last Sunday's meetup once a work meeting coincided with the time announced for the meetup. I would be happy to arrange a meetup soon. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 14:03, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi WeijiBaikeBianji. I'm sorry you missed the meetup. I probably won't be able to attend if it's outside of the Twin Cities. Cheers, Gobonobo  T C 19:42, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for You Can Run But You Cannot Hide International
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Ganas article
Do you have any recommendations for the article on the Ganas community? I seem to be in an edit war with Eroberer, whose only history with Wikipedia is in editing Ganas related articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Campoftheamericas (talk • contribs) 08:13, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Since you are a member of the community, you should be aware of Wikipedia's conflict of interest guideline. There is a guide for dispute resolution that may be of some help here along with links to different noticeboards that might be useful. Above all, I'd recommend working on one change at a time and discussing changes on the talk page. Knowing Wikipedia's policy about neutrality may be useful as well, since this seems to be where the article has the most issues. Gobonobo  T C 10:59, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the tips, but this situation is somewhat different. I have reason to believe Eroberer is the person that was accused, and by my opinion, is the one, that shot Jeff.  That's why the the article sounds like an attack on Ganas.  I would rather someone of authority interfere because of the article's severe POV.  Take a look at the POV before Eroberer's first edit:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ganas&oldid=303426567
 * Take a look at all of Eroberer's edits: most if not all, are about Ganas or members of Ganas.
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=250&target=Eroberer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Campoftheamericas (talk • contribs) 21:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
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