User talk:Godel32

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Welcome to Wikipedia from the Medicine WikiProject!


Welcome to Wikipedia from WikiProject Medicine (also known as WPMED).

We're a group of editors who strive to improve the quality of medical articles here on Wikipedia. I noticed that you are interested in editing medical articles; it's great to have a new editor on board. In your wiki-voyages, a few things that may be relevant to editing Wikipedia articles are:


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Feel free to drop a note on my talk page if you have any questions. I wish you all the best on your wiki voyages! Your initial edits at ALCAT have put a lot of weight on one very recent primary paper, which is something we try to avoid as they are very frequently misleading. We particularly wait for the publication of secondary sources, ideally systematic reviews such as those by the Cochrane Collaboration. Again, welcome.LeadSongDog come howl!  19:04, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

OK. I will keep emphasis on primary papers to a minimum. Would removal of the study quotation be considered an improvement? Thank you. Godel32 (talk) 12:26, 26 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you. It might be an improvement. Another possibility is to rephrase so that it is obvious to the reader from the inline text that it's just one very recent paper saying this, rather than the encyclopedia summarizing (as fact) a widely-held expert consensus that has held up over several years. Many readers never trouble to consult and assess references, so to a very limited extent we do that for them. The best option is often to seek out what reviewers have had to say about the primary source in quality secondary sources, though this may impose a few months or even years of delay. Wikipedia is wp:NOTNEWS, so there is no rush to publish. LeadSongDog come howl!  19:04, 29 November 2017 (UTC)