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POTD notification


Hi Godot,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:US-$1000-GC-1882-Fr.1218g.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on January 11, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-01-11. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:43, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism?
I explained why I made my edits; calling them vandalism is completely unfair. 1000 in this case obviously doesn't mean 1 + 999 people; it means 1,000, plus or minus a few dozen, and you can't add 81 to that and get 1081, because 1081 does not mean 1081 plus or minus a few dozen. Again, read Significant figures.--Prosfilaes (talk) 02:30, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yup. Read it. Think you're missing the picture, but I'm not going to get baited into an edit war on New Year's Eve. Your calculations are "visually" incorrect and misleading given the general context of the list. I could go in an add an "~" next to the numbers, but then the table sort functions wouldn't work.-Godot13 (talk) 02:37, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Did you try ? That should keep the sorting in good shape. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:13, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

@Crisco 1492-Thanks, unfortunately the way the table is set up it doesn't work (I tried)... @Prosfilaes-I can see from your talk page that your editing style has resulted in a number of edit disputes, warnings, and the occasional block. Dropping in on an article out of nowhere and using an unconventional form of logic to support your re-working of a table in a featured list (without bringing it up on the talk page first) is a fairly aggressive move. Per your user page - is this necessary drama? --Godot13 (talk) 07:23, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Gave a test (in preview mode). The issue is that it's reading 1000 as text and not numbers (so the automatic filter it has doesn't work). That's why the format is going screwy. To make this work, you would have to include a sort template for all entries... so no worries if you choose not to. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:34, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL! It's not that the task is overwhelming (well perhaps slightly), more so that I spent significant time cutting code out to reduce the size of the list... BTW- Happy New Year.-Godot13 (talk) 07:52, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Happy new year to you too. If it absolutely must be noted, my suggestion would be a footnote... that's the only thing I can think of. But yeah, agree 100% about the code. That is one huge list. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:59, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Funny about the footnote, that what I was doing while you were responding...-Godot13 (talk) 08:03, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:BOLD tells me that I can and should feel free to correct any article I want, no matter who owns it. Significant figures is high school level math, not unconventional. Perhaps if you read people's edit summaries and didn't call them vandals in violation of WP:AGF, it would be easier to have this discussion.--Prosfilaes (talk) 09:44, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * No one said you shouldn't try, but once you've been reverted you might want to try discussing. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:46, 2 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Prosfilaes - WP:BOLD doesn't necessarily act as free reign to avoid going through a talk page discussion in order to reach consensus (after three reverted attempts to make your point). Your initial edit carried the comment the sum of around 1600 and 92 is 1700, a bit cryptic to me at least. I did AGF in my first reversion as can be seen in the comment (Reverting good faith edits due to math errors...). The second edit included a reference to an article and numbers written in scientific notation. Combined with your editing history from your talk page, this seemed like you were trying to push a specific POV regarding the significance of numbers. Perhaps vandalism was not the right word. I have tried to address your concern by even adding footnotes taking your argument into consideration. If you have specific accurate information to add please do so. If you want to quantitatively change the way we as readers view significant numbers, I don't think this is the forum, but I may be wrong. Please open a new section on the list's talk page and gather consensus for your approach to calculating the sum total of numbers before making these changes again. I think that is fair, no? While I don't claim ownership of this list, I was the significant author, I did take it though FLC and I keep an eye on it to make sure contributions are constructive. I am reverting your edit for the last time. Other than by gaining a consensus from those editors who have already worked on this list (and/or others), if you replace your numbers again I will understand that to mean that either a Third Opinion, Dispute Resolution, or admin involvement will be necessary to resolve this matter.-Godot13 (talk) 19:35, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Perhaps accusing an other editor who you admit you didn't believe to be trying to damage the encyclopedia of being a vandal was wrong? Perhaps? WP:VANDAL is very clear on this point: "Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia is not vandalism. ... Mislabelling good-faith edits as vandalism can be considered harmful."
 * You yourself have not posted on the talk page; asking that of you is fair, no? It's not changing the way we as readers view significant figures; it's about using them by the correct, standard way instead of a sloppy careless way.--Prosfilaes (talk) 08:01, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Perhaps vandalism was the wrong choice of words. I couldn't find the right word to describe the intentional alteration of a simple addition equation to produce an incorrect and/or confusing answer. Had you started with attempting to use the "~" or "c." we would have been on common ground.-Godot13 (talk) 15:23, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

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Treasury, or Coin, Notes Article
Hola, Godot13, can we also have an image of the proof for the ornate back $50? Cheers and Happy New Year! --LondonYoung (talk) 20:01, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, and one minor thing - would it be better for sake of consistency if you used all Large Brown Seal examples for the 1890's? Up to you. --LondonYoung (talk) 20:04, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi LondonYoung- Happy New Year to you. The $50 was never issued in 1890. I'm fairly certain that there was never even an approved design/proof for the series, same as the $500 which was not issued in either 1890 or 1891 (at least there is a proof for 1891). Regarding the large brown seal- I agree, the consistency would have looked nice but the $5 and $10 1890 large brown seal notes are missing from the Smithsonian collection, and the $20 1890 large brown seal has significantly less visual appeal... I'm going to be adding a lot of images this year!-Godot13 (talk) 20:50, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi and Happy New Year! The "Comprehensive Catalog" does illustrate the design for the reverse of the $50 - though it may not have made it to essay form.  Here I am using "essay = possible design for currency that was not issues" and "proof = test print of an issued design" --LondonYoung (talk) 00:54, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Ahh... If you are referring to Hessler's book, he did manage to find some concept designs or initial stage proofs at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing archives which sadly were not transferred to the Smithsonian. FYI (in case you didn't see the addition in the article), an 1890 Grand Watermelon just set a new world record price for a banknote sold in auction... --Godot13 (talk) 01:18, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The Bureau of Engraving & Printing customarily busts out old printing plates, inks them up, and stamps official currency designs on souvenir cards for distribution at national numismatic events. Notice that for the ANA show, August 2001, in Atlanta, one of the souvenir cards featured the ornate back $50 design. I would strongly suggest purchasing one of these souvenir cards, and submitting a hi-res scan, because the source of the card material is the BEP and its authentic printing plates. On another point unrelated to Treasury Notes, there are some other "proofs" of designs on these BEP cards that are not available in the Smithsonian, which may be worth looking into. For instance, the complete face design of the 1882 $10,000 Gold Certificate is featured on the ANA 1988 Little Rock souvenir card. 99.7.246.126 (talk) 10:13, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Photographer's Barnstar

 * Many thanks Ynhockey! - Godot13 (talk) 21:04, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

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Coin Note
Hi Godot,

Thank you for contacting me on this issue rather than simply reverting my move. The former title did not conform to Wikipedia's naming conventions, but "Coin Note" is not our only option. The guidelines for choosing article titles when the most common title is ambiguous can be found here. I chose Option #1, "natural disambiguation", which is often the most preferable option, but Option #2 could also work in this case if you are concerned that Option #1 is misleading. Using Option #2, we would create an article title with the format "Treasury Note (disambiguator)" where the word "disambiguator" is replaced by a word or phrase that distinguishes the relevant definition of "Tresury Note" from the other definitions of "Treasury Note" discussed on other articles. What do you think of Treasury Note (Sherman Silver Purchase Act)?

Neelix (talk) 04:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Wow, that was fast! While "Treasury Note (Sherman Silver Purchase Act)" is probably the most technically accurate, it is quite a mouthful (and wouldn't really fit with the names of the other articles about types of U.S. Banknotes. Would it be odd to call it "Treasury Note (1890/1891)" or "Treasury Note (Series 1890/1891)" ? This is very close to how they are referred colloquially within numismatics, and there is absolutely no mistaking it for any other version of a Treasury Note? Thanks.-Godot13 (talk) 04:42, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, what's the point of reverting without finding out why you did it (said a little sarcastically since I know that's how edit wars begin). I believe in asking before shooting... Godot13 (talk) 04:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It's good to hear that you're not the shoot-first type. :) Having a slash in a parenthetical disambiguator looks strange to me; I've never seen one in use before. Normally, television shows that ran for multiple years are disambiguated solely with the inaugural year and then the class of thing (ex. Spider-Man (1994 TV series)). How about Treasury Note (1890 currency)? Neelix (talk) 04:54, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Problem there is that the Treasury Notes were issued in Series of 1890 and 1891. The front is the same design (barring the varieties in signature and seal) but the reverse is complete different. Could we get away with Treasury Note (1890-91)? or possible other variations of the disambiguator: (Series 1890-91), (Series 1890 & 1891)... I'm concerned that beyond adding the date (with or without Series), this could open the door for renaming all U.S. Currency articles. This may or may not be bad, but it could create issues.-Godot13 (talk) 05:08, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * My preferance would be one of the first two options I mentioned (Coin Note or Treasury Note (Sherman Silver Purchase Act), but if you would prefer Treasury Note (1890-91) and there isn't any other opposition, I won't oppose it. Either way, I'm going to bed, so if you'd like to discuss this further, I won't be able to respond again at least until tomorrow. It was good to virtually meet you! Neelix (talk) 05:19, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Good to "meet" you too. If you don't have an objection, my preference would be Treasury Note (1890-91). Thanks-Godot13 (talk) 05:27, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I would "vote" for a disambiguator based on year. That is the most natural way to do it to me.  (I was also fine with the original title, perhaps as Treasury "Coin" Note instead of Treasury (Coin) Note.)  I am indifferent between Treasury Note (1890–91) and Treasury Note (1890/1891). --ThaddeusB (talk) 20:37, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Of those three options, I would certainly prefer Treasury Note (1890–91); several move discussions for other articles have made it clear that the community is against including synonyms in article titles. Neelix (talk) 22:09, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Great. Basically the original title with the disambiguator date at the end. I would be happy to make the changes in the article (Coin back to Treasury "Coin" Note Treasury Note (1890-91) in the article text) if you wouldn't mind doing the page moving. - Godot13 (talk) 22:14, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Note: I copied to above discussion to the article talk page to create a more easily findable record of the discussion... I think we are in agreement on "Treasury Note (1890–91)" (the dash is an endash, incidentally) for article title. If so, the text of the article generally should read "Treasury Note", the note's proper name. --ThaddeusB (talk) 05:26, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks ThaddeusB. I'll make any additional comments there.-Godot13 (talk) 05:36, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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Wikicup
Before I start, let me just say I do not for a moment want to question the good you're doing on Featured pictures with images of notes. I'm solely bringing this up because I worked with FPs in last year's Wikicup, and know there's some somewhat arbitrary cutoffs for which FPs "count" for Wikicup purposes.

Do you take the photographs of the banknotes yourself? Because the Wikicup requires some substantial personal work to get Featured Picture credit in the Wikicup; I had an image rejected from getting credit because the necessary edit I made - removing a repeated line in the image - was too small.

If you're photographing them, though, all is well, and feel free to ignore this image, and I look forwards to a very strenuous competition for the FP credit this year. I'm currently working my way through a book of William Russell Flint watercolours. Half-toned, which is sad, but it's the first edition and the originals are apparently scattered and unavailable to the public.

Cheers,

Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:29, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Adam- Fair question as I'm sure others may be curious too. In order to access the actual banknotes I joined the Smithsonian Institution (SI) as a consulting volunteer which required a U.S. Federal background check. I have personally handled every banknote in the images I post during ongoing week-long digitizing trips to the National Numismatic Collection.

I use an Epson 10000 scanner at 800dpi to scan one note at a time in the SI numismatic vault. I wish I could load the bed and scan multiple notes at the same time, but this is not allowed per archiving policy. I do image alignment, color correction, and background/border cleaning but do not make virtual repairs or cleaning as the image would not be an exact representation of the actual note. In addition to the banknote scanning, I also maintain extensive database spreadsheets for the Smithsonian documenting the condition and relevant historical factors for each note.

I feel confident that this qualifies as substantial personal work on my end, as well as providing access to images of some banknotes rarely (if ever) seen. I too look forward to some healthy competition in the FP category. Regardless of the outcome, Wikipedia is the ultimate beneficiary. Many thanks-Godot13 (talk) 20:15, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I would say that definitely counts. That's amazing work! Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:38, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated Adam. --Godot13 (talk) 03:20, 23 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I must say that is pretty cool, even more so knowing you held a note worth $3M in your hand... Not my usual "line of work", but improving the Treasury Note article was fun - let me know if you come across others you'd like writing assistance with. --ThaddeusB (talk) 02:56, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Many thanks ThaddeusB, over the course of the next year I'm sure there will be some...-Godot13 (talk) 03:20, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

UTC
Hey! Well, since the UTC says at least three there is no need to add them all. Though, I have amended your entry to include "7 others" :) Cheers. — ΛΧΣ 21 Call me Hahc21 16:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Hahc21-Godot13 (talk) 03:01, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

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The 2014 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with, at time of writing, 138 participants. The is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2010. If you are yet to join the competition, don't worry- the judges have agreed to keep the signups open for a few more days. By a wide margin, our current leader is newcomer, whose set of 14 featured pictures, the first FPs of the competition, was worth 490 points. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:


 * and were the first people to score, for the good article Tropical Storm Bret (1981) and its good article review respectively. 12george1 was also the first person to score in 2012 and 2013.
 * scored the first ITN points for 2014 North American polar vortex.
 * scored points for an early good topic, finishing off Featured topics/She Wolf.
 * scored the first bonus points of the competition, for his work on Typhoon Vera.
 * has scored the highest number of bonus points for a single article, for the high-importance Jurassic Park (film).

Featured articles, featured lists, featured topics and featured portals are yet to play a part in the competition. The judges have removed a number of submissions which were deemed ineligible. Typically, we aim to see work on a project, followed by a nomination, followed by promotion, this year. We apologise for any disappointment caused by our strict enforcement this year; we're aiming to keep the competition as fair as possible.

Wikipedians interested in friendly competition may be interested to take part in The Core Contest; unlike the WikiCup, The Core Contest is not about audited content, but, like the WikiCup, it is about article improvement; specifically, The Core Contest is about contribution to some of Wikipedia's most important article. Of course, any work done for The Core Contest, if it leads to a DYK, GA or FA, can earn WikiCup points.

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And so ends the most competitive first round we have ever seen, with 38 points required to qualify for round 2. Last year, 19 points secured a place; before that, 11 (2012) or 8 (2011) were enough. This is both a blessing and a curse. While it shows the vigourous good health of the competition, it also means that we have already lost many worthy competitors. Our top three scorers were:


 * , a WikiCup newcomer whose high-quality scans of rare banknotes represent an unusual, interesting and valuable contribution to Wikipedia. Most of Godot's points this round have come from a large set of pictures used in Treasury Note (1890–91).
 * , a WikiCup veteran and a finalist last year, Adam is also a featured picture specialist, focusing on the restoration of historical images. This month's promotions have included a carefully restored set of artist William Russell Flint's work.
 * , another WikiCup newcomer. WikiRedactor has claimed points for good article reviews and good articles relating to pop music, many of which were awarded bonus points. Articles include Sky Ferreira, Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus and "Wrecking Ball" (Miley Cyrus song).

Other competitors of note include:


 * , who helped take Thirty Flights of Loving through good article candidates and featured article candidates, claiming the first first featured article of the competition.
 * , who claimed the first featured list of the competition with Natalia Kills discography.
 * , who takes the title of the contributor awarded the highest bonus point multiplier (resulting in the highest scoring article) of the competition so far. Her high-importance salamander, now a good article, scored 108 points.

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Aircraft incidents list
Hi Godot,

It looks like you are doing some great work with respect to articles on banknotes and aviation. List of aircraft accidents and incidents resulting in at least 50 fatalities is particularly impressive. I have some concerns about that article's title and scope, and I thought that, as the one who pushed the article through to featured list status, you would be the best person to talk to. I would greatly appreciate your consideration of my points below:


 * 1) "Accidents and incidents" seems redundant to me; while not all incidents are accidents, all accidents are incidents, so we would be saying just as much to simply say "incidents".
 * 2) Lists of things that are the most _ (fill in the blank) have to include a cutoff point, but this cutoff point is not normally included in the article title (ex. List of highest-grossing films, List of the most populous counties in the United States, List of tallest buildings in Hong Kong) unless that cutoff point is itself significant (ex. One million sales of a single is a threshold that is widely celebrated outside of Wikipedia, hence List of million-selling singles in the United Kingdom). In the present case, it would be simpler and more consistent to switch "resulting in at least 50 fatalities" to "resulting in the most fatalities".
 * 3) The inclusion and exclusion criteria for a list article are normally encoded in the article title; other than this one, I don't know of any featured list articles for which such is not the case. At present, however, this article's title makes no indication that "acts of aggression on military aircraft by an enemy combatant within their theater of warfare" would be excluded from the list. What is the reasoning behind not including this particular type of aircraft incident? Because this is such an unintuitive exclusion, I can think of no way of renaming the article so as to make this exclusion explicit. If I understand correctly, both peacetime and wartime civilian aircraft incidents are included, peacetime military aircraft incidents are included, and wartime military aircraft incidents that were accidental are included, but wartime military aircraft incidents that were not accidental are not included. If the list is to exclude some military aircraft incidents, it would make much more sense to me to simply exclude them all and have separate lists for civilian aircraft incidents and military aircraft incidents, with the military aircraft incidents list including acts of aggression by an enemy combatant.

What are your thoughts on my three concerns outlined above? If the article's title were to be altered according to my recommendations above, it would read thus: List of aircraft incidents resulting in the most fatalities. If my scope recommendation were to be followed, the incidents involving military aircraft would be split off from this article onto a new list, the current list being called List of civilian aircraft incidents resulting in the most fatalities and the new list being called List of military aircraft incidents resulting in the most fatalities. I hope we are able to come to mutually satisfactory decisions on these matters as we did with respect to the Treasury Note (1890–91) article title.

Neelix (talk) 04:01, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Neelix- Your proposal is something of a Pandora's box. I think point #1 above is addressed by footnote numbers 2 and 3 in the list, #2 is discussed on the list's talk page, and #3 was discussed on the talk page and during the FLC nomination. I am slowly working on a 30-50 and a 10-30 list which makes the cut off in the title necessary. You can probably see on the talk page and FLC review, there was very lively discussion about this list. While I certainly appreciate you approaching me with this, there would need to be at least a few more people involved... - Godot13 (talk) 04:40, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * - A ten to thirty? That would be thousands, or hundreds of thousands of entries. I think the scope is just too big. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:14, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for responding to my message so promptly. You are correct in asserting that my point #1 is addressed by footnotes 2 and 3. I remain concerned about the inclusion of a numerical cutoff point in the article title. On the talk page, I do not see a discussion about moving the article to a title that replaces this cutoff with the word "most". I also find the sectioning off of a 30-50 list and a 10-30 list problematic; these cutoff points are not significant in themselves, and, as such, the lists you propose would be non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations. For an aircraft accident or incident to fall within 10-30 fatalities is not a "culturally significant phenomenon"; there is nothing significant about that range specifically. I would be glad to see more lists about aviation accidents and incidents, but they should be divided by culturally significant phenomena, such as the civilian/military distinction, or by country, or by airline, etc. Would you oppose a move to List of aircraft accidents and incidents resulting in the most fatalities? Neelix (talk) 16:20, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Regarding the use of a numeral in the title, please see the last four paragraphs of this section of the talk page. I agree that 10-30 may be a bit excessive and not quite as relevant as the current list. Using the word "most" in the title is not very descriptive without having to then operationalize the word later in the list. Your idea of most may be different than someone else. With the numbers in the title, everyone is on the same page. thanks-Godot13 (talk) 19:09, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * FWIW Jane's Air Facts and Feats has a list of Aviation's Worst Disasters and used the loss of more than fifty persons' lives as an inclusion criteria. MilborneOne (talk) 18:14, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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Just notifying you I've left a question on your FLC. Aureez (<font color="F88379">Talk ) 21:58, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Aureez, I have made the correction based on your observation.-Godot13 (talk) 22:37, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * - Somehow I think Godot can get access to type specimens a bit more easily than circulated specimens. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:59, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * @Coal town guy-Many thanks for your support and the barnstar. I'm working on a few lists simultaneously, gold will get there ;-)
 * @Crisco 1492-You're probably right on that one, but I go to enough currency conventions to find almost any note in any condition.-Godot13 (talk) 17:45, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Shudder... any condition is right. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:55, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * EGAD, mine is in MUCH better condition........BUT its a cool thing to see prime specimens, the only exceptionis exonumia for me, some of them MUST show wear EXAMPLE before I collectCoal town guy (talk) 15:03, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * @Coal town guy-Agreed. With National Bank Notes some are so scarce I'll take them any way I find them...-Godot13 (talk) 15:47, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I knew the collector who owned one (National Bank Note) for Thurmond, West Virginia...he wanted galactic freak money for it and it sold, I was stunned due to its condition, which I would have placed at FAIR...MAYBE........BUT, I also noted how rare that is and of course there are regional specific collectors...Coal town guy (talk) 15:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thurmond, WV (National Bank of) charter 8998 - only bank in town, 9 notes known (5 large size and 4 small size)... Eventually I'll get to uploading some Nationals, I've got a few from VA/WVA...-Godot13 (talk) 16:22, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * THAT is rather cool, as in VERY cool.....I have some rather uncommon coal scrip......I posted one piece at the Saxman, West Virginia page. I still have some older stuff which I may share here, AFTER I build up the coal scrip article..Coal town guy (talk) 16:25, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Taft
The check Taft wrote is interesting, but it would be better with an explanation... -- Jim in Georgia  Contribs  Talk  16:42, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure what I could say. It comes from the Smithsonian (and prior to that the Chase Money Museum, donated in 1978). It was likely a courtesy autograph given the amount is all of one cent. I thought it was an "ordinary" presidential signed check until I noticed the date. It certainly isn't a shoe-in for the article, more of a neat coincidence. If you think it can work let me know I'd be happy to add something addition to the caption. If not, please feel free to remove it. Thanks.-Godot13 (talk) 16:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the speedy response. My first thought was to remove it then drop you the note, but it is interesting. I hadn't thought of the autograph angle. I'd say leave it. BTW, is the Waldo C. Moore on the check the man who was president of the American Numismatic Association (1919–1921)? The dates are curious. -- Jim in Georgia  Contribs  Talk  17:23, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

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Maastricht
Has anyone (attention talk page stalkers) been to Maastricht? I will be there next week and have 1-2 days for photography. I would welcome any suggestions. Thanks--Godot13 (talk) 17:51, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

har hazeitim
You can't change a photo with a description. I deletes your change in hebrew wikipedia "הר הזיתים". Uziel302 (talk) 02:54, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Uziel302-You are correct, my mistake. If you feel the image is/was an improvement, I would appreciate your help making an appropriate description for it. Thanks-Godot13 (talk) 03:04, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the barnstar Hpman2. The Smithsonian collection of National Bank Notes (NBN) is not extensive but there are some good notes. I have one or two other sources I will go to for some of the best NBN out there, it will take some time to process the images. Thanks!--Godot13 (talk) 20:18, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Godot13,

Thanks for suggesting a new main photo for the article. It's a lovely picture, so I have no problem with you making the edit if you wish (provided you own the copyright &c. &c.). All I would say is that it would still be nice to have an interior shot somewhere within the article (especially since the library isn't usually open to the general public). Perhaps we could retain the current image as a thumbnail somewhere?

Many thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farradane (talk • contribs) 18:20, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Farradane- I'll be happy to work on it (also keeping the interior image) and if you are not pleased, feel free to revert the changes. The photo was taken by me. I'm working on an image gallery from a marathon Oxford photo day last week- 22 colleges in 7 hours. It's a work in progress... - Godot13 (talk) 18:34, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I think it turned out rather well, let me know what you think. Thanks-Godot13 (talk) 19:08, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

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Round 3 of the 2014 WikiCup has just begun; 32 competitors remain. Pool G's was Round 2's highest scorer, with a large number of featured picture credits. In March/April, he restored star charts from Urania's Mirror, lithographs of various warships (such as SMS Gefion) and assorted other historical media. Second overall was Pool E's, whose featured list Silver certificate (United States) contains dozens of scans of banknotes recently promoted to featured picture status. Third was Pool G's who has produced a large number of good articles, many, including Falkner Island, on Connecticut-related topics. Other successful participants included, who saw three articles (including the top-importance Ian Smith) through featured article candidacies, and , who saw three lists (including the beautifully-illustrated list of plantations in West Virginia) through featured list candidacies. High-importance good articles promoted this round include narwhal from, tiger from and The Lion King from. We also saw our first featured topic points of the competition, awarded to and  for their work on the Sega Genesis topic. No points have been claimed so far for good topics or featured portals.

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National Gold bank Note
I originally had the banks listed in another column on the table and feel they would make more sense somehow incorporated into the table. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:37, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Knowledgekid87 Oh, I agree with you. Getting them into the same table might be difficult (because each line is based on a denomination) and I was just trying to avoid a second table. Although... If we went with a second table, we could add date of charter, and # notes reported on the bank (optional would also be the date of conversion to a non-gold national bank)... Just a thought.-Godot13 (talk) 01:56, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Knowledgekid87- I've been looking at some of the different data available and a second table (actually it might be the first table of two) could make sense. If each line represented one of the 10 NGBs, the info that could be presented might include: Bank name, charter number, date of charter, and denominations issued. Both Treasury and bank serial number ranges are available, but that might be overkill. I'm not very familiar with the style (syntax) of the table you set up. If you are on board with the idea of a bank table would you mind setting up the framework? In the existing table I'm going to change the Series values to either Original or 1875. The dates currently there aren't the series but rather the plate date reflecting when the actual plate was authorized for BEP engraving. I need to check the criteria, but I wonder if we could get this up to a Good Article...--Godot13 (talk) 23:51, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure I can make the second table, as for the one I created I actually borrowed one of the tabless used in the Federal Reserve Note article and tweaked and played around with it so it worked. I can create another one for the banks and link you to a preview. As for GA status, I get the feeling that it will be a challenge, not a-lot of information is out there in reliable sources regarding these notes. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:02, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Sorry I have not been active on the page, I just returned from NYC yesterday and had been busy before too to dedicate time for the article. The article looks great I think what you did greatly improved things. =) I feel the history section should be worked on next, do you have any book sources to work from? I have found before some sources with what National Gold Bank notes were used for but did not want to paraphrase the sources too closely. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 11:40, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup
If you want to withdraw, I'll withdraw too. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:21, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I certainly appreciate the solidarity, but I have to think about that. It has nothing to do with winning an award (the images will get where they need to be with or without the Wikicup). The rules may very well change for next year, but under these rules I want to see everyone work their ass off to be on top. One of my "agendas" with digitizing the Smithsonian banknotes was to get them out into the public, to get the history and art of currency to a broader audience. I will admit, the Wikicup has kept my level of motivation at an unusually high level. I've thought about what would be required to be competitive in the final round, but this sort of drains your energy for a big move. Let's see what the upcoming days bring. Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 02:48, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry there's been an issue about this. Your work is appreciated by me, though I do not write about banknotes personally, I've been able to borrow your excellent images when coins and banknotes have crossed paths.  Anything that could be done to get the Smithsonian to put the coin portion of the National Numismatic Association online with suitable licenses would be appreciated as well--we have some articles reliant on pre-1923 images of patterns uniquely in the NNC and we're desperately short on images for some mid-19th and earlier issues. I've had to defer writing some articles until suitable images can be gotten.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Wehwalt- Thanks for the comment, much appreciated. While imaging coins and notes are two very different stories, I would be happy to inquire as to what images the NNC has (high res digital) for their coins that they might be willing to share (or make). I will be back there in June or July for a week and again in August. Perhaps you could give me (email?) a "short list" (20-30 coins). Indicate which images would be the centerpiece of an article (i.e., priority). I can not make any guarantees, but can try.--Godot13 (talk) 04:34, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I will work something up. Thank you.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:39, 18 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I can't wait. 3000px images of mint-quality coins coins. Speaking of which, I need to get some new presses. These are really dirty at full resolution. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:06, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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Curious about one of your photos
Hi Godot13. I am curious about these block-like shapes in. What are they? Regards, Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 21:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * They are gravestones. It is a biblical-era cemetery.--Godot13 (talk) 22:46, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Godot13. At first I thought they were, but when I compared the size to the cars in the streets, I began doubting my first impression. Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 14:07, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

About your camera
I noticed that your recent photos have been taken with a medium format camera with Leaf back. Obviously the resolution is fairly incredible with these cameras, but I always have the niggling feeling that you'd get better images with a good DSLR and stitching (as I do). After all, I can often downsample my stitched images to your camera's native resolution, gaining additional sharpness as well as great resolution. I'm a bit biased though as that's been my technique for getting great panoramic/architectural detail in my photography for about 10 years now. I do also appreciate that there are additional and significantly time-intensive post-processing requirements for this method (and occasionally stitching errors if you're not careful), although it could be argued that the technical attention to detail required of medium format photography (slower shutter speeds for equivalent depth of field etc) makes it just as complex. Anyway, I was just wondering how you came to the decision to go medium format though, as it's quite a big investment. <font color="#006633">&#208;iliff   <font color="#800000">&#171;&#187; <font  color="#006633">(Talk)  10:19, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Diliff- I've never tried stitching because I have no idea how to do it. I'm willing to learn if you have any good intro sources you can turn me on to. I'm generally amazed by your work and certainly see the upside of spending the extra time putting the images all together. Shooting medium format is slower and sometimes not as versatile as a good DSLR. There's something rewarding about going though a day's shoot and finding one or two images where you just nailed the shot. I don't actually own the camera (I have a Nikon D4 and tons of 35mm and medium format film gear), I rent from a pro place when I travel and have taken the Leaf back on a few trips now. I started medium format digital in 2003 and have seen the resolution get better and better, so I've sort of been waiting for technology to slow down before investing (but I also hope it doesn't). If there is a site or literature you recommend on stitching, please let me know. Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 11:53, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You'd have to hunt down the software first. Diliff and I use PTGui, which is fairly automated (in a way which is sufficient for most needs, though once you can manually edit the panoramas it becomes much more powerful). You can read up on it here, and their documentation is pretty good. There's also an open-source alternative, Hugin (software), but I've had trouble with that. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:04, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * (Talk Page Stalker) I had an oppportunity to try the stitching software, in a brief nutshell, IT SUCKS. ESPECIALLY when you have an entire suites of photo editing software out there designed to paste differing images. I have found greater control, BUT thats me....PROVISO...I used to use a Kodak Brownie camera until the fine folks stopped making film for it. I now own a LOW end SLR, and would LOVE to try out the DSLR out there but as fate has it, I do not have 3 grand to drop on a camera. Then I had a thought. most of my pics are of abandoned appalachian buildings, damaging good equipment in the middle of nowhere isnt my bag. So, UNLESS there is an urgent need, IMO AVOID the stitching, and just edit.......Coal town guy (talk) 13:27, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Were you shooting from a single point, or were you trying to, say, shoot everything face on? If the latter, that'll explain if you had major issues (my first attempts, before I read into this, were like that). You have to shoot a certain way, but PTGui and Smartblend handles my handheld panoramas quite well (in most cases). Taman Sari (Yogyakarta) has three images I plan on nominating at FPC next week, all of which were stitched. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:34, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ALL of the above and a good observation. Some of the places I shoot do not give me a chance to have a certain approach.....the errant rattle snake, or hornets nest tends to put a damper on traditional approaches, BUT, I would not trade it for the world. HOWEVER, your images are remarkable in quality good showCoal town guy (talk) 14:02, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * As they say, a poor workman blames his tools. ;-) Stitching software doesn't suck, it serves its purpose and it does an excellent job if used correctly. But if you don't know what you're doing and the photo doesn't come out right, it isn't the software, it's you. The same can be said of any camera. "I spent 3 grand on camera and it doesn't take good photos". Anyway, just wanted to get that out there to counter your stitching software slander. ;-) Of course stitching software isn't going to be useful for an image of a rattle snake or similar. It's designed for situations where the subject is relatively static and you have time to compose it. <font color="#006633">&#208;iliff   <font color="#800000">&#171;&#187; <font  color="#006633">(Talk)  14:11, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * A "static" subject is swell..as long as said subject is not in nature. You now, the outside world, far from places that allow you to get that shot...HOWEVER, IF I spend 10 hours to get to a place and I rely on software that does not do the job, it sucks, in fact, I can honestly say if I do not get the utility that is stated, it sucks..... As to knowing what I am doing.......yeah, thats kinda funny, in its own way, I guess. The point of my comment was ,before you got weepy about using software, I cant afford the camera I want, which I am certain NOBODY ELSE EVER SAYS  ;-)......HOWEVER, I will state IMO, and in my career, film offered better quality and I did not have to rely on a software vendor telling me how to take a pic in my darkroom or in places they normally never go anyway. Its kind of like a sales pitch gone wrong. Oh yes, Mrs Linclon, besides that, how was the play? I dont take pics of snakes, I avoid them to get the pics I want. As to my current camera doing the job, nope, it never ever will, in fact no camera I owned ever did everything I wanted. Thats just me, I do however have a wish list. I will again state, the pics here are excellentCoal town guy (talk) 16:15, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Sometimes it can be the equipment. The Canon PowerShot A*** which I used to take this image of a destroyed house doesn't seem to have had enough range, so I got blown highlights. However, human error is still possible; in the session that produced this and others like it, I lost Jimbo knows how many pictures to blur because I chose settings which weren't allowing me to get enough shutter speed, and chose a position where my field of view was blocked by some decorations. I think 60 out of 200 made it to Facebook, and 20 made it to Commons. Just today I junked 20 RAW files because I had missed the focus in places while trying to prepare a focus stack. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:28, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * As for site, it's worth checking out Hugin or PTGui (try the demo version of PTGui and let me know if you like it). Crisco already mentioned PTGui's website as a good place to start, and the tutorials are particularly helpful (especially the first one on how to shoot panoramas which is applicable regardless of what software you use to stitch. Hugin works fairly similarly to PTGui, but I'm most familiar with PTGui so I'd recommend that. And I know what you mean about going through a day's shooting and finding a couple of images that you really nailed. It's actually the same, possibly even more so with stitching. Some of my panoramas are composed of 50 or more images, because in addition to taking, for example, a 2 row by 5 column panorama, I often also take 5 exposures for each of those frames. So 2 * 5 * 5 = 50. It's not uncommon for me to have taken 500 images and only have 3-4 final panoramas of any worth. Sometimes I will have accidentally left autofocus on, or left it in aperture priority, or bumped the focus ring or the tripod in the middle of the sequence, or in some other way screwed up one or more of the exposures and rendered the entire panorama useless. So there is definitely a technical aspect to good panoramic photography that can't be underestimated. But once you get your technique right, it's pretty unparalleled in creating great quality images. <font color="#006633">&#208;iliff   <font color="#800000">&#171;&#187; <font  color="#006633">(Talk)  14:20, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I hate when I accidentally leave something in aperture priority; I had to reshoot this entirely (PTGui can do a bit to mitigate it, including the colour balance, but the sky ... it was a nightmare). I didn't catch it until I was already home. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:23, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I know your pain... Are we whispering?--Godot13 (talk) 17:07, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * While we're on the subject of pain... Crisco, once PTGui has outputted the final image and you've done whatever retouching might be needed in Photoshop or whatever, resave it with a little more JPG compression. 70mb for one image is pain. :-) It's needlessly large! I resaved it as a test and reduced it from 70mb to 15mb and there was no noticeable loss of quality. Oh, and also, you don't seem to be using colour noise reduction in your RAW processing (the shadows have significant colour noise, particularly on the lower left wall) That said, it's a nice photo and a pretty good real world example of how a relatively pedestrian camera can create a great, high resolution stitched image (twice as much resolution as the Leaf digital back). <font color="#006633">&#208;iliff   <font color="#800000">&#171;&#187; <font  color="#006633">(Talk)  17:37, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You guys crack me up! Okay, as soon as the Wikicup is over I'll start my stitching apprenticeship. Hmmm, I guess you can't get any smaller than this...--Godot13 (talk) 17:54, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you sure Godot? The luminescence denoising is at 15 right now. Still not that much, but I was kinda worried that that would cause too much loss of detail. Then again, I'm downsampling from 15k pixels wide to 12.5k, so it's not going to have that big of an effect. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:01, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I pulled a muscle in my eye...--Godot13 (talk) 00:40, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Look mum, I'm downsampling my reply!   Seriously though, Crisco, I'm not talking about luminance (brightness) noise, I'm talking about chrominance (colour) noise. There should be sliders to adjust both types of noise separately. Colour noise can be removed more aggressively without affecting the detail. In Lightroom, colour noise reduction is enabled by default and you don't generally need to adjust it further as it removes most colour noise but from memory, you use Camera RAW which has the same options available but perhaps different default settings. Have another look. <font color="#006633">&#208;iliff    <font color="#800000">&#171;&#187; <font  color="#006633">(Talk)  09:00, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah. I'm using Lightroom now, and it was at 50. My latest version (Poco considered the lighting in the one you looked at too harsh at COM:QI) seems to be a bit cleaner. The image is also 15 mb now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:03, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * BTW, Godot, if you do get some stitching software, you may enjoy the masking features. It allows you to remove a few people who accidentally get in your way without fancy Photoshop maneuvers. I will probably rely on this heavily once I try and get an FP-able image of the Tugu of Yogyakarta (which is in the middle of a busy intersection). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:19, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay Crisco, now you have my full attention. That detail in and of itself is very valuable...-Godot13 (talk) 03:27, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Then I probably should have started with that. File:Eastern face of Eastern Gate, Taman Sari, Yogyakarta, 2014-05-07.jpg, for instance, is of the main entrance of a fairly busy tourist attraction (there had to be three tour groups while I was there, and that's also where the guides wait for tourists), but with the masking feature (and patience while photographing) I was able to get a reasonably empty entrance. So long as one or two of the overlapping images you shoot has nothing blocking it, the masking feature should be able to give a satisfactory output. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:02, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I get it, and it explains an exchange I had... When I was taking photos at the Temple Mount I spoke with a man taking the same picture (with a tripod), over and over. I asked why he was doing this and he replied: to get rid of the people...--Godot13 (talk) 04:49, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Lovely answer. :D — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:53, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Alaskan parchment scrip
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Talk:King Alfred's Tower/GA1
I think I've now addressed all the issues at Talk:King Alfred's Tower/GA1. Could you take a look and see what else needs doing?&mdash; Rod talk 08:03, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Brosius image
I hate these kind of battles. They have a tendency to screw up nominations, which is why I'm so reluctant to provide any but the most obviously-improved alts... Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:45, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Rep. Marriott H. Brosius
I'm a bit sensitive about this sort of things because of the number of times I've seen images uploaded without the captions, or have had some idiot on Commons come along and crop my images due to the idea that borders/text should always be removed. I really, really do not ever want to see a precedent emerge that this is acceptable at FPC. It's not so bad when the original exists, but... I hadn't realised voting had closed. I think the wrong decision was made, because the alt was judged in such haste, and may ask for a D&R later. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:03, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough...--Godot13 (talk) 00:49, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

WonderSwan
In case you're thinking "I already answered this", Chris accidentally removed your comment by the looks of it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:56, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL! I thought I was having a premature senior moment... --Godot13 (talk) 15:14, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You're not the only one. I was thinking "Wait, he already said the new image was okay". — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:16, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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Featured picture number
In case I miss it, can you be sure to tell me when you pass 100 featured pictures for this year? Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:48, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
 * By my count Godot13 is at 77 FPs for this year currently. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:23, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Damn. We're barely halfway in. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:32, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Adam and Crisco- provided nothing goes awry with two nominations set to close in a few hours, the nine-note set I just nominated, if it passes, would make exactly 100.--Godot13 (talk) 15:45, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. I've got some possible FPs in the pipeline too... the three east-facing temples at Sam Poo Kong (the article needs to be updated; apparently a new one was added in the past 2 years), and an image of Java Supermall (which needs an article). Sadly, writing takes up a lot more time than photography for the same returns... Departures took over a month, and that's even with another editor helping. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:51, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Alaskan parchment scrip, 1 ruble (c. 1852)
78 77. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:45, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Forgive the bold correction ;-) --Godot13 (talk) 20:48, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Image question
Sorry to pester you. Could I get your opinion on the colours at File:Banyunibo Temple, 2014-05-31 01.jpg? I mean, I know the saturation should probably be knocked back, but for some reason the shadows are really extreme at thumbnail but not so much at full size. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:18, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco 1492- Thanks for asking, and no pestering at all... Really nice image! There are a few hints of purple CA (heaviest under the farthest left portion of the roof) and a touch of purple coloring where the trees meet the sky in places. The perspective looks slightly off, but I’m guessing that is a true reflection of the temple’s shape (but 0.2CCW rotation might not hurt, at least to see if it’s better). The sky color closest to the tress could be desaturated a bit, it seems a bit unnatural. At regular and full screen, the shadows are not an issue (IMO), even at 320px the shadow is not too bad (but slightly more pronounced). Again, great image…--Godot13 (talk) 16:02, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * K, thanks for offering an outside view. I'll polish this then. At least it's far better than what it replaced (now talk about shadows!). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:05, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry to butt in Crisco (I guess we're all doing it these days), but I had a look at the image and I think something's not quite right with the sky. The tone changes considerably between the centre and the edges (cyan at the edges, a truer and more authentic looking blue in the middle). Did you use the same white balance for all component images? As for shadows, I don't think they look strong in the thumbnail view, but it's not unheard of for images to look quite different at different sizes. &#208;iliff    &#171;&#187;  (Talk)  16:21, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, all had the same balance; I think that's from the sun being slightly over shoulder and thus the sky being lighter in that general direction. I've tried to balance the blues a bit more, per Godot's suggestion, though it will take another 10 minutes or so to upload (as I mentioned before, slow-ish connection). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:26, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I suspect what has happened is that you've blown the highlights in the blue and green channel in those areas. Then you've darkened the sky afterwards (with the highlights slider or similar. The problem of course is that the colour information is lost. It's similar in principle to darkening a truly blown (white) highlight. All you will ever get from it is a darker grey. You'll never have the correct colour of that area. Same with the sky. It still has some texture because the red channel wasn't blown, so there is variance in the lumiosity, but there is a constant cyan tone to it. I'm sure you can rescue it aesthetically somewhat, but from a purely technical point of view, the image has been cooked due to overexposure. ;-) &#208;iliff    &#171;&#187;  (Talk)  17:04, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, perhaps. *sigh* The new version I'm uploading (almost done, according to Chrome) is better aesthetically, I think... but yeah, still a bit of a cyan tint (not as blatant though!). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:07, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Banknotes
Do you have any that you think would be good on the main page in the near future (already promoted, if possible). If we're going to avoid complaints about a flood of banknotes, it would be nice to start presenting them soon so that we can give them more space. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:42, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco 1492-Sure, let me mull it over for a day. Also, I happy to work with you to group certain notes together that were separate nominations, or perhaps a small set promotion of notes as a single day main page feature. Last thing I want to do is turn people off to currency because it appears too often... What are the guidelines on putting a promoted set on the main page- for example, if Silver Certificates (47 images) were to be featured, could it be split large size one day, small size another and knock it out in two days, or better to select the highlights and present them all within the same day?--Godot13 (talk) 02:46, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If the individual bills don't have their own articles, I'd say small sets together, and highlights from larger sets. If the images have individual articles or some are used in another article, we might be able to split them so that a larger amount of the images can be shown more easily. The images from the Map Projections Set have been running individually so far (one a month right now), as almost all have an individual article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:51, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * A concrete example: Early American currency has 13 FPs. If there were individual articles on the currency of each colony/state (keeping in mind the local-issued scrips which were still used into the 19th century, that might be feasible), the 13 FPs could run individually. Otherwise, we'd have a set or two, maybe half one year and half another year. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:54, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Good guidance, I'll put some combinations together...-Godot13 (talk) 03:37, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Crisco 1492 - Two additional possibilities in the upcoming months, another further down the road (suggestions): I'll keep looking. Thanks--Godot13 (talk) 04:45, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Treasury Note (1890–91) (set of 16) - shame to see them all go at once since there are so many historical figures represented, but the date of the Act authorizing their issue was July 14 (1890). These were only promoted in January...
 * Demand Note (3 individual FP) these should have been a set since they represent a complete denominational set. The first US Federal issue banknotes, not authorized but clarified and confirmed by an Act on August 5 (1861).
 * Federal Reserve Bank Note (set of 12) - looking farther into the future, the Federal Reserve System was created by an Act of Congress on December 23 (1913).
 * The Treasury Notes might work better next year (125th anniversary). The Demand notes might work, and I don't think we have anything scheduled yet. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:54, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Good call on the 125th Anniversary... I'll keep looking (at older FP promotions first).--Godot13 (talk) 05:23, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, for the Treasury Notes we could just run some of them on the anniversary and save some for historical figures. Problem is, it does not look like many of the biographical articles use the banknotes. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:47, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll fix that gradually, and only where space allows or additional prose information can be added...--Godot13 (talk) 05:52, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, some notes are already in the articles for Civil War generals. What I could do is make sure that all the images in the articles are from the series of 1891 (open or plain back design) so the fancy back (1890) could be presented as a logical/coherent group, and then a few singles could be free for use to commemorate some of the Civil War folks...--Godot13 (talk) 06:00, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, that works. Okay, I'll let you figure that out... still a year to go. I've left a reminder to myself on the 5 August page so that I don't forget the Demand Notes. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:02, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

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Featured picture candidates/U.S. National Gold Bank Notes (1871-1883)

 * 82. I am, at least, starting to catch up after my wikibreak, though. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:45, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Christ Pantocrator, Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem
I prefer the uncropped version; I don't want to oppose, but I find it very hard to support something when my preference is that strong for the other. May I suggest that if it doesn't pass, that you nominate the uncropped version I prefer, which I will very gladly support? And if it does pass, I'm outvoted, and will shut up. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:44, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough ;-) --Godot13 (talk) 14:14, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Purple images
Just wanted to let you know that these images still have the weird purple tinge:

File:UK-2014-Oxford-All Souls College 01.jpg File:UK-2014-Oxford-St John's College 02.jpg File:NET-Margraten-American Cemetery 02.jpg (only slight in this one) File:UK-2014-Oxford-Wadham College 05.jpg File:UK-2014-Oxford-Oriel College 02.jpg File:UK-2014-Oxford-Trinity College 04.jpg File:UK-2014-Oxford-Christ Church College 01.jpg File:UK-2014-Oxford-New College 01.jpg File:UK-2014-Oxford-Trinity College 02.JPG (technically it's only the window reflection but it's still purple instead of blue) File:UK-2014-Oxford-Magdalen College 06.jpg File:UK-2014-London-Monument to the Women of World War II (2).jpg

I find it very strange because the rest of the colours seem reasonably balanced, it's just a hue shift of the blues. What went wrong? &#208;iliff   &#171;&#187;  (Talk)  19:55, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Diliff - Ah, yes... I believe these are because I had gotten a new monitor which was not properly calibrated. It was only toward the end of uploading a string of Oxford images that I became aware of the problem. What you see are the images I have not yet gone back (or had the time) to redo. I plan to fix them in the coming weeks, thanks for the heads-up.--Godot13 (talk) 20:11, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

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About your username.
I think your username is good. What does your username mean and how did you come up with it? }I Mr* &#124; (60nna) I{ 06:53, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * We're still waiting. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:28, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'm happy! (=D) }I Mr* &#124; (60nna) I{ 09:34, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL! It was my first screen name when AOL just came out. I always thought it was an interesting premise: waiting for something (someone) who may never arrive. I remember seeing a production of the play with Ian mackellen and Patrick Stewart which left me speechless.--Godot13 (talk) 21:53, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
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Oxford photos
Just a quick note to thank you for your lovely Oxford photographs. I've added some to Portal:University of Oxford (feel free to add others) and I'm delighted to see such high-quality images. Did you take any others that you haven't uploaded to Commons? The reason I ask is that I have written a couple of articles about Oxford college architecture (Jesus and Nuffield) and sometimes it's not the grand photos like the Hawkesmoor towers of All Souls or the sundial of Corpus that help bring an article to life. (Sometimes a photo helps me understand what I'm writing about!) I have a couple of ideas for which colleges I'd like to do next, but if you have other images relating to particular college(s) that might influence my decision... Thanks, BencherliteTalk 10:29, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Bencherlite - You are more than welcome. I was a bit over-ambitious in the number of colleges I set out to photograph in a single day. Each college has hours open to the public and coordinating them was a nightmare. But, Jesus College was simply closed, (not even a porter to negotiate with). I remember making a conscious decision to skip Nuffield due to time constraints. I will review the image I took, I am certain there are more as I went with what I considered the better ones first. As Diliff accurately pointed out, I need to rework a few of the files because my monitor was not properly calibrated (purple/magenta) when I posted many of them. I will look and see if there is a concentration of photos from one or two colleges which could illustrate an article. On the very off chance I might have captured something you are specifically looking for, are there buildings at certain colleges in which you have an interest?-Godot13 (talk) 20:04, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * PS - In case you haven't seen the gallery, I'm keeping the Oxford images on this page. - Godot13 (talk) 20:10, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I should have said I'd spotted the Commons gallery. It's a pity about Jesus but there we go. I have no Nuffield links and I don't remember ever stepping through the gate before I wrote the article (no, I went to lunch there once, 20 years ago, I've just remembered!) and I just wrote that one because it was interesting. I think All Souls would be good to do and have already bought some second-hand books about the college and its architecture, as well as researching some articles online.  I doubt I will be able to start anything this side of the summer holidays, though. Otherwise, my natural preference is for smaller colleges (!) - the Corpuses of this world rather than the Magdalens and Christ Churches. Keble is an obvious one too, I suppose... BencherliteTalk 22:59, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Bencherlite Okay. I'll look through during the next month or two and upload more images. If I don't put them directly in the gallery (may need some work pending your interest in using them), I'll ping you about their whereabouts.--Godot13 (talk) 23:10, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/U.S. Interest Bearing Notes (1864) set
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Distortion
You've done several overhead images before, right? (I seem to recall several in Israel, though I'm not sure if those were from a helicopter or a peak). I've got a question for you: do you think the distortion in File:Great Mosque of Central Java, aerial view.jpg is too much? It was bugging me a bit, but the image has grown on me. The angles sure are weird, though, when one shoots from several hundred feet up. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:25, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Crisco- My shots were all from a helicopter, much higher and maintaining a distance of 1km (law). Your image was taken from within the mosque itself (which is harder because you don't have the distance let some of the distortion work itself out). Too much for what? For commons, maybe. For WP, perhaps if it was your average-size file. But I can count tiles on the roof... Based on the surrounding areas (very low), it would seem the only way to capture the same angle (or whole mosque) without significant distortion would be in a helicopter. As it is, IMO, the EV (for an overhead/semi-aerial looking view) slightly outweighs the negative impact of distortion... I hope that's helpful-Godot13 (talk) 19:29, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * A distance of 1km? That must have been some lens! Thanks for the feedback. I'll let the current batch run through first... (BTW, even this angle was a pain in the butt to get; I had to hold the camera outside the viewing platform, about 3 feet from the safety mesh in order to avoid the concrete skirt around the viewing platform; even going to the very top of the tower, in an employees only area, had clipping issues) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:46, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe it was a pain. For being "on-site" It sounds like you probably got the best shot you could get. Question (as this is not my area)- If one could set up a tripod in the minaret (and I understand that wasn't happening without an obstructed view) would stitching multiple images be a technique to reduce distortion? (Above, they told me it was the law (1km) but I think it may have been more like .5-.75km)--Godot13 (talk) 00:10, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * forgot to ping...-Godot13 (talk) 00:14, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you would (I think) be able to stitch it without much major distortion... at least you wouldn't need to worry about parallax, the bane of hand-held panorama photography. It's usually a bigger problem with interior shots, although if you don't have much distance or several objects in the foreground it comes up as well. (my view of the Umbul Temple bathing area has a little parallax, so I probably won't go to FPC with that). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:21, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Nice shot Crisco, but I see what you mean.--Godot13 (talk) 00:56, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, almost forgot: it's not just a standard tripod head. There are special heads which are used. Diliff has one... but for some reason nobody in this city seems to know what panoramic tripod heads are. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:58, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Good to know. I'll check and see if I can rent one with the tripod. I'm fairly sure that when the Wikicup is over for me (either in 2 or 4 months) I will not want to see a banknote for at least a month or two. Trying to add some variety at the end though...-Godot13 (talk) 01:15, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed. As they say, variety is the spice of life (hence why I occasionally venture into less covered territory... like the first photographic documentation of human intersexuality [NSFW]... wish I had the Le Mens book, so this could get FA status). Anywho, looking forward to seeing your next photographic venture (or aviation list). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:22, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Now that's some variety... Do you speak/read French?-Godot13 (talk) 04:31, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Speak, haltingly. Read, fairly well; when I cite Archipel articles I usually read them in the original French. I probably wouldn't have much of an issue with that book. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:07, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


 * On a completely unrelated note (just writing here because I don't want to start a new section), do you want to be credited with your user name or your real name for your photographs? Rather pertinent as I'm going to schedule the image of Al-Aqsa Mosque for Eid (17 July) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:08, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's great. I've always tried to be the low-profile type, but I guess for real images (photographs vs scans) it would be nice to take credit.-Godot13 (talk) 07:45, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco-Do you think that image would have a shot at Commons?
 * Alright, I'll change the name later (doing a translation project right now). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:55, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm terrible at guessing what Commons wants ;) It's worth a shot, of course. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:55, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Crisco- re: the image... +7 supports in less than a day... nice...-Godot13 (talk) 23:52, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I must say, I'm surprised. I guess that's what happens with 150 mp. (Wonder what would happen if I were able to take a gigapixel image of something... but I'd never be able to do that handheld). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:16, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2014 June newsletter
After an extremely close race, Round 3 is over. 244 points secured a place in Round 4, which is comparable to previous years- 321 was required in 2013, while 243 points were needed in 2012. Pool C's was the round's highest scorer, mostly due to a 32 featured pictures, including both scans and photographs. Also from Pool C, finished second overall, claiming three featured articles, including the high-importance Grus (constellation). Third place was Pool B's, whose contributions included featured articles Russian battleship Poltava (1894) and Russian battleship Peresvet. Pool C saw the highest number of participants advance, with six out of eight making it to the next round.

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An Award

 * Hafspajen- You just put a big smile on my face. I love Dubreuil's paintings. Thanks!--Godot13 (talk) 02:18, 7 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I have seen this picture and it made me think of you! And a little bird said that you are on your ..100th? FP !? Wow. Nice job. Hafspajen (talk) 02:31, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Many thanks Hafspajen. If all goes well, tomorrow (depending on where you are right now, July 7) will be exactly 100 for this year...-Godot13 (talk) 02:36, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Very nice indeed. I'm at 172 nominations + creations, but that's taken almost 3 years. Very good work! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:38, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * WOW!!! Great, so then this award is just right. Hafspajen (talk) 02:41, 7 July 2014 (UTC) Hey, we don't have an article on him, Victor Dubreuil

Featured picture candidates/United States Notes ("Greenback") set
...100...
 * Congrats, Godot! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:49, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Godot,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Israel-2013-Jerusalem-Temple Mount-Al-Aqsa Mosque (NE exposure).jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on July 28, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-07-28. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:49, 7 July 2014 (UTC)


 * BTW, if you still want to take credit under your own name, it appears you'll have to be the one to add it. I don't seem to have it in the emails. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:49, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Nix that, I just realized that you've already included it on the file page. Silly me. Two finger salute! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:44, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries!--Godot13 (talk) 03:27, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- I took a good look at the image and there are a lot of dustspots in the sky at max resolution. I looked for the raw file and the color adjustment is a bit different, so I didn't go that route. I downloaded the uploaded existing image and used CameraRaw, spot removal brush only, to get rid of the spots. Would it be allowed to upload the "new" image (which is identical, minus dust)?--Godot13 (talk) 04:05, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, that should be fine. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:17, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Indonesian one-rupiah (first issue, first series)

 * Dalmatian.

Greenbacks
Is the Greenback set the one that puts you at 100? Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:00, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see it is. Up to a short interview? Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:01, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Adam- Sure. How does this work, and when would be good for you?--Godot13 (talk) 01:24, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Let me just confirm with the ed17 that it'll run, then I'll ask you a series of questions. Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:18, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure.-Godot13 (talk) 02:22, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * We're greenlit. I'll set up the questions tonight or tomorrow. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:00, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Great, send them when you've got them...-Godot13 (talk) 09:19, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Some satay for you
Creating featured content is a drain. You could probably use a bit of nourishment. Hope you don't mind hot foods! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:51, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * BTW, does the Smithsonian have any of these? That is a terrible reproduction there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:02, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- First of all, your photos of food evoke a Pavlovian response... Thank you for the satay. I haven't seen one of the occupation notes in either the Dutch East Indies or Indonesia sections, but I think I may know why- it might be in military occupation script. I will have a look next trip down (I hope in mid-late August).--Godot13 (talk) 04:38, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Military occupation script? That sounds like there'd be quite a few rare items there with interesting histories. BTW, Philippines notes appear to also be PD (commons:Template:PD-PhilippinesGov) and notes from pre-1964 Malaysia (so essentially anything from British Malaya) would be PD too (commons:Template:PD-Malaysia). This is not begging for those notes, really, but just an idea in case you're running out of US bills (though I doubt that's a problem yet). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:43, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco, I'm happy to diversify (and learn in the process). I will look for the ones you mentioned. Keep in mind, the BEP proof archive has, roughly, 300,000 items... I will run out of sanity long before I run out of U.S. paper currency and related items --Godot13 (talk) 05:07, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * 300,000 items... but there has to be at least some duplicates, right? I mean, in terms of series (say, Hawaii overprint notes of a certain denomination)... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:22, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL!... no, 300K are just the BEP proofs (e.g., banknotes, bonds, tax stamps)... Some of the proofs cover all varieties (which is close to being duplicates for design, but not signature combinations). Then there's the banknotes from around the world... It's so vast it's sort of hard to fathom. The whole collection including coins and medals is over one million objects.--Godot13 (talk) 07:22, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, easy to go crazy with that... very easy. Hard to wrap my head around. Ancient Chinese currency (coins, obviously)? Those stone currency things (sorry, forget the name)?. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:04, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * A few smaller Rai stones (not that I could move them). Coins start at the beginning...--Godot13 (talk) 09:18, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * What I love about 'smaller' is that it can be miles away from 'small' and still be correct. Well, I must find the time to visit once I actually have the money for regular travel back home. My wife enjoys looking at different forms of currency (not as much as she enjoys having it, but well enough) and I rather like old banknotes. Anywho, congrats again! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:53, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

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Demand Notes

 * Hi Godot, I've scheduled the Demand Notes for 10 August (Template:POTD/2014-08-10) if you want to have a look. All three are ready to go. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:53, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Great Crisco, I'll crop out some of the excess black border (without touching the design). Many thanks!--Godot13 (talk) 01:03, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Trying to get in to edit the templates (minor stuff), but I don't seem to be able to... Is there a different way to edit template?-Godot13 (talk) 01:24, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Template:POTD/2014-08-10/1 through 3. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:36, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Would they have issue with "the National Numismatic Collection at the National Museum of American History"? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:02, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm just putting exactly what they sent me, but I think that would be fine...--Godot13 (talk) 02:03, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * From a grammar perspective, I'd keep "the National Numismatic Collection at the National Museum of American History" in a running sentence and "National Numismatic Collection, National Museum of American History" for the standalone credit at the bottom. We've still got almost a month, so perhaps you could confirm via email? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:08, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I think that's fine. It uses their arrangement for the main credit, which wouldn't flow in a sentence.--Godot13 (talk) 02:30, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll work it in once I'm done translating this story (one of my classmates is paying me to translate her short story collection into English; no article on her yet). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:32, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 02:39, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

- Alright, all done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:45, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Art and engraving on United States banknotes
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Scans

 * Hi Godot, hope your vacation is going well. I finally tried scanning a banknote (left) and was wondering if you could provide further feedback (aside from cropping the border a bit more; I know that would be preferable). I was particularly interested in tricks for keeping the bills perfectly flat; for this scan I had the bill under black paper under a dictionary but the bill was not exactly playing along. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:43, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Crisco - I actually leave later this afternoon... The engraved portrait looks really good, but the colorful fine printing near the edges isn't as sharp as it could be (on a hair-splitting level). The black paper behind is good and definitely helps give better definition to any kind of watermark in the paper. The size (pixels) is huge but I notice it's at 300dpi. I tend to scan my own stuff at at least 600 and the Smithsonian notes at 800, could this be a factor? I'm surprised that a note under the weight of a dictionary was not cooperative. This may be a stupid question, but is the scanner on a very solid surface (to avoid any kind of vibrations)? In my scanner software there is a sharpen feature clickable in the preview mode, I find this extremely helpful for engravings and banknotes...-Godot13 (talk) 10:12, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * "Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer" ... i.e. yeah, it wasn't on the most solid of surfaces. *oops*. I'll try putting this on a proper table or desk later. As for the scan resolution, it's actually scanned at 2400dpi, then downsized to 66% for a sharper edge (so... = to 1600dpi). Probably just faster to scan at 1600dpi from the getgo, I'll admit. (A stupid question from me now: does the DPI we save the file at [not scan] actually affect the file in any way?) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:17, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Dictionary was the 1700-page Kamus Besar Bahasa Indonesia, so there was quite a bit of weight there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:20, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- Vibrations (for a high res scan) can kill it. Now, your "stupid question" isn't so stupid because I have no idea. I've never changed the dpi setting/level after I've captured the image. It's also possible (with modern banknotes) that less is more - all the overlapping colored lines are likely part of the anti-counterfeiting measures so the more detail you try to capture the less sharp it becomes (complete speculation).-Godot13 (talk) 10:31, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * And a completely off-topic question: I'm going a few places, and one is a non-FOP country (Morocco). I will take all the pictures I can for myself. In terms of what I can use for Wikipedia, in practical (general) terms, what will not fly?-Godot13 (talk) 10:31, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll definitely find an actual table (rather than my camera bag on a computer chair) for the next scan (yeah, that bad). As for the off-topic question: upload locally and use your preferred license together with FoP-USonly, as I did for the mosque and Chinese temple images (but not statues! those aren't covered in US FOP). Hosting on Commons is only acceptable for a non-FOP image if the structure/artwork is already PD. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:40, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Scanner on a camera bag on a chair... given the set up I'd say the scan was superb ;-) --Godot13 (talk) 20:00, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * A wheeled chair ;). I'll have time tomorrow to give this another go. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:24, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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Wikicup semifinalists interview request
As you may know, I write for the Signpost, basically Wikipedia's newsletter. I'd like to do a feature on the semifinalists, would you be willing to provide, say, 250 to 500 words saying: (1.) Why did you join the Wikicup? (2.) What you you hope to get out of it? and (3.) Which of your contributions to the Wikicup are your favourites?

Not quite sure how I'll order them - I'll probably make the ed17 decide, as, you know, Conflict of Interest: I am a semifinalist. I'd imagine point order or alphabetical or the like.

Can you please reply at Wikipedia Signpost/2014-07-30/Wikicup? Thanks! Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:21, 19 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Will do tonight.--Godot13 (talk) 04:35, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/National Bank Notes (Original/1875) set

 * Oh, and if somebody is counting... Face-grin_expert.svg ... it's 110 now. Armbrust The Homunculus 00:01, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

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Re: Seal of Ohio
It is a beautiful illustration, and you did a great job restoring it. However, I found it misleading to include in the article, out of the context of the rest of the set. By 1876, Ohio had no longer had a coat of arms, only a seal containing a circular "device", which apart from the great seal was drawn rather crudely. Also, the absence of a river and motto would definitely rule out it being an illustration of the 1866 coat of arms. (I'm still looking for a better illustration of that coat of arms; the current one is missing several elements.) The 1879 and 1902 illustrations I included under "Empire" are believed to be historically accurate (Knabenshue 1902, [//books.google.com/books?id=DrwVAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA180 Galbreath 1902]).

I'm also trying to make the article into more of an article and less of a gallery. The article is currently missing the seals of 1803, 1848–49, and 1965 for lack of space. There's still more to write about, so it may be possible at some point to make room for the illustration. In the meantime, the article does link to Commons:Category:State seals of Ohio, and the illustration is in that category, a couple levels down.

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Scans again
Hope the trip is going well. I did another scan. I think this is featureable, once it goes in the article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:42, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco Night and day difference. Very sharp, even most of the microprinting (the printing in green is fuzzy, but not a defect in the scan. If it's sharp on the note, then it is serving its purpose as an anti-counterfeiting measure. Trip is good. Hot (for me, but probably not in your neck of the woods). Churches and cathedrals generally do not allow pictures (in Spain) and bringing up a tripod seems to be humorous for some reason...-Godot13 (talk) 13:23, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Perfectly sharp on the note. I'll get the other circulating denominations, then make a nom. Next month, a new release of the 100k bills and another scan to do. So much variety!
 * It's interesting to hear that the churches/cathedrals aren't allowing photography. Even from off site? I get the issue with interiors, but from outside... what about the mosques? If I'm not mistaken, there's a lot of Moorish Islamic architecture in the southern part of the country. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:56, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- From the outside is fine. But inside many have said no to interiors, the one where it was okay wouldn't allow tripods, any another said no to interiors but allowed shooting the grounds from open windows. This Basilica wouldn't allow photos and it was one of the most unusual places of worship I've been (unbelievable feat). Of course they would not allow cameras but the art was unbelievable... Next and last destination. Any image suggestions that could improve WP articles are always welcome...-Godot13 (talk) 16:55, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The Prado... now that would be an experience. I remember spending hours just trawling their website, finding their scans of works by Goya, Valazquez, et al... And yes, the Basillica looks absolutely amazing. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:52, 1 August 2014 (UTC)


 * And a topic aside from churches: this horrifying river. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:08, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you Hashima20 for your extremely kind words!--Godot13 (talk) 15:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Commons:Valued image candidates/De Javasche Bank, complete 1948 Issue
Regarding this... I think you forgot to transclude it, meaning nobody realized you nominated it. BTW, I've been cleaning up the banknotes of Indonesia category. It's now sorted by denomination, in case you want to classify notes more easily. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:44, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco Well that explains it. It's moot anyhow as the VIS has been shut down (at least last I heard). I will not forget to look for the Emergency issue Indonesian currency next week...--Godot13 (talk) 17:01, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * VIS? On the English Wikipedia, yes, there is no longer a valued image process... but the one on Commons is alive and kicking. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:39, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- VIC is alive, VIS (sets) they shut down. When that happened I stopped participating because it didn't make sense to submit a set of 10-15 notes one nom at a time with nothing to tie them together...-Godot13 (talk) 23:48, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:58, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

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Coinkidinks

 * Odd how we'd have banknotes from the Smithsonian collections running not only on their own anniversaries, but also the Smithsonian's. And entirely unplanned. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:03, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I thought the anniversary of the notes was planned, but the anniversary of the Smithsonian... ha, go figure!--Godot13 (talk) 15:58, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Second art wasn't, was what I meant. Sorry, distracting day with the parents flying halfway around the world. I receive "On this Day in History" emails, and I noticed that the Smithsonian was established on 10 August. Small space-time continuum, perhaps. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:16, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

One more thing on coins
I forget if I put this on my wishlist but I could really use images (both sides) of the two Panama-Pacific $50 pieces. As a high priority. Many thanks for your help.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:50, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * They were there...-Godot13 (talk) 22:05, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Veni, vidi, vici? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:22, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- Veni✅, Vidi✅ (the necessary people, not the objects). Not so much of a Vici as a quid pro quo ;-) I have hope, but no deal is done until it is done. Now, they've been doing some re-organizing of world paper, which is complicating the search for the Japanese occupation notes... Godot13 (talk) 02:46, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Joy. A QPQ, eh? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:36, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Perryville portrait
Hi, Godot! Adam Cuerden is working with me on a peer review for 33rd Regiment Alabama Infantry, and he suggested I contact you about a file:. It comes from a collection currently held by the Smithsonian, and he suggested that you might know if there's a larger and/or better version out there. If not, no worries, but I thought I'd just follow up on his suggestion. Any help or advice you could give would be deeply appreciated! - Ecjmartin (talk) 00:45, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Ecjmartin- I will find out which department has "jurisdiction" over the art work and see if they are approachable. I have a request for images pending right now, so I may have to wait a week or so before asking about this...--Godot13 (talk) 00:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, sir. There's no rush here, so please feel free to take your time.  I appreciate any help you can give; thanks again!! - Ecjmartin (talk) 01:04, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Re:Leader of Alderney
I don't mind at all. Go ahead. I don't have much experience with FL (actually I think this is my first nom) so if a more experienced hand is willing to help, then I would gratefully appreciate it.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 23:23, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The C of E God Save the Queen! - You chose a difficult topic for a list... The main sources are websites that don't cite their sources. The one or two books I've found don't provide a complete list and also provide some conflicting information with the websites. It's a bit of a puzzle (which is what draws me in). IMO, for this list to be successful at FLC, each date or pair of dates should have it's own sources. I've added the website sources to the section headers, and added a new section in the list to account for German occupation civilian versus military leadership (they are consecutive, not concurrent). but I think it needs to be more specific. I will keep digging a bit more...-Godot13 (talk) 06:15, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

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Steeplechase
I'll put the award here this weekend :) I've been very very busy in RL :(  → Call me  Hahc  21  00:35, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * reminder...--Godot13 (talk) 15:41, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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Featured picture candidates/U.S. Gold Certificates (Series 1882, complete denomination set)
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Oxford
Appears you and Diliff aren't the only ones doing some photographic work. I may nominate the image of Peter Carey (retired professor there) once I've cleaned up his article a bit. ;) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:08, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Interesting (and impressive) fellow...-Godot13 (talk) 12:16, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Ping (forgot this was my talk page)-Godot13 (talk) 12:17, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL. Fairly friendly too. We were at the same seminar in Bandung, though he had a different panel (first session). Mine was second session. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:19, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

CSS Image Crop
FYI, I added this template into the List of Presidents of the United States‎ ... and other articles. There is a problem with this template. It does not work on mobile view. To test this claim go to the List of Presidents of the United States‎ article. Scroll to the end of the article and click onto "Mobile view." This will show you how the article will look to mobile users. I discovered this issue a few months ago. I have yet to find someone to make this template work correctly. Mitchumch (talk) 08:22, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up, the template is a brilliant addition...-Godot13 (talk) 16:17, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * FYI, the mobile issue should be resolved. User:Codehydro fixed the issue today.  Mitchumch (talk) 23:16, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Good to hear Mitchumch, thanks for the info!-Godot13 (talk)

Charles Foster (politician)
Template:commons category was placed near the top of the article, just below infobox template. This forced anything after to be below infobox as well. Moving Template:commons category to nearer bottom of article solved placement problem for photo you wanted to add. Roseohioresident (talk) 23:34, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Roseohioresident - Many thanks, I couldn't figure out what was going on...-Godot13 (talk) 00:48, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Historical coats of arms of the U.S. states
Hello! Your submission of Historical coats of arms of the U.S. states at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Elonka 22:03, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 August newsletter
The final of the 2014 WikiCup begins in a few short minutes! Our eight finalists are listed below, along with their placement in Round 4:


 * , a WikiCup newcomer, finished top of Pool A and was the round's highest scorer. Godot is a featured picture specialist, claiming large numbers of points due to high-quality scans of historical documents, especially banknotes.
 * 1) is a WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist every year since 2010. In the semi-final, he was Pool B's highest scorer. Cas's points primarily come from articles on the natural sciences.
 * 2) was Pool A's runner-up. Czar's points come mostly from content related to independent video games, including both articles and topics.
 * 3) was Pool B's runner-up. Another featured picture specialist, many of Adam's points come from the restoration of historical media. He has been a WikiCup finalist twice before.
 * 4) won the WikiCup in 2012 and 2013, and enters this final as the first wildcard. She focuses on biology-related articles, and has worked on several high-importance articles.
 * 5) is the second wildcard. George's points come primarily from meteorology-related articles. This year and last year, George was the first person in the competition to score.
 * , the third wildcard, was the 2010 champion and a finalist last year. His writes mostly on military history, especially naval history.
 * , the fourth and final wildcard, has participated in previous WikiCups, but not reached any finals. Bloom's points are mostly thanks to did you knows, featured lists and good articles related to sport and national symbols.

We say goodbye to this year's semi-finalists. ,, , , , and  have all performed well to reach this stage of the competition, and we hope they will all be joining us again next year.

There are two upcoming competitions unrelated to the WikiCup which may be of interest to those who receive this newsletter. The Stub Contest will run through September, and revolves around expanding stub articles, especially high-importance or old stubs. In addition, a proposal has been made for a new competition, the GA Cup, which the organisers plan to run next year. This competition is based on the WikiCup and aims to reduce the good article review backlog.

There is now a thread for brainstorming on how next year's WikiCup competition should work. Please come along and share your thoughts- What works? What doesn't work? What needs changing? Signups for next year's competition will be open soon; we will be in touch. If, at this stage of the competition, you are keen to help the with the WikiCup, please do what you can to participate in review processes. Our finalists will find things much easier if the backlogs at good article candidates, featured article candidates, featured picture candidates and the rest are kept at a minimum. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. and 22:09, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Banknotes images
Okay, so I scanned the remaining notes in the current issue, and am processing them. Question about tables: do you think we should work to keep the relative sizes of the notes accurate at Banknotes of the Rupiah? This might mean a bit of playing with sizes, but it's doable. I'm worried that some people may revert the addition of these (much clearer) scans simply because they're not formatted the way they like. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:54, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco I tend to think that if you are introducing some notes into an existing table, probably best to try and match the style, but if you are creating a new section of a table or an entire table I think it's okay to add them in a full-frame sort of format, IMO. I think the way you added them looks fine...-Godot13 (talk) 17:05, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks... I did fill an entire table, but that still got reverted. But looking into the editor's contribution history, I'm willing to be the revert was not based on any numismatic conventions. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:36, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- I'd like to see what they propose is better at this point...-Godot13 (talk) 23:51, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No proposals, just wholesale reverting (but without the "undo" button, so no notifications popped up for me). I think that, once I'm done the currently circulating set, I might get the x cent 1964 notes scanned (5 cent). I have all five (even before starting this scanning mini-project my wife and I collected some bills... now in the market for a bill album for proper storage). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:29, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Careful... it's addictive...-Godot13 (talk) 00:34, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed. And expensive without access to a museum willing to let you scan what they've got. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:19, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ha! Don't get me started, I've been a collector in one area for 20+ years...-Godot13 (talk) 00:32, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ooh boy. Lovely designs, though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:35, 6 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Crisco- I was looking at the Banknotes of the Rupiah article again and realize that I have several tables' worth of much higher res notes than are currently present (most of the 1950 onward section), set up in the usual over/under presentation. Should I revamp the table layout a little for those where I can do a complete image replacement? Please feel free to use any of those image yourself if you get on a roll in the article. --Godot13 (talk) 18:27, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * If you want to have a go, sure. I've got a table set-up that you can use. I'll just fiddle with the sizes later. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:48, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Good project for after the cup (I do still need to make every effort to win).--Godot13 (talk) 00:11, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Right. There's probably a featured list in the waiting there, if we can reference the information... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:57, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

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Early American currency...
...I just came across the article, and really enjoyed it; some lovely images as well. Nice work! Hchc2009 (talk) 08:39, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Hchc2009! I've been part of the WikiCup this year focusing almost exclusively on numismatic (and related) image content, and improving the prose of the article in the process. The early banknotes have so much history attached...--Godot13 (talk) 14:48, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, 1789–1902 (set)
163? Damn. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:48, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's exactly 163. And there are still circa 4 months left from this year. Armbrust The Homunculus 08:13, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco & Armbrust- but there are only 7 weeks left in the WikiCup...-Godot13 (talk) 08:19, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Meh, we shoulda started a pool to see if you can top 250 in a year. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:28, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

World banknotes
Hi, thanks for asking. Not sure what to suggest — my interests center around central and eastern European history. Countries that no longer exist as such would include Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and of course East Germany; defunct governments would be a long list.

Suggest that Nazi-era German banknotes be avoided due to obnoxious symbols, but Soviet paper money might be interesting. Since the Baltic states are relatively obscure they might be good choices. I believe Lithuania (right) is the only one of the three not yet to have adopted the euro.

As to Danzig, it's unique: A short-lived city-state of German ethnic composition which after 1945 was completely supplanted by Polish in-migrants; the city is now called Gdańsk. Some Freie Stadt Danzig notes list for thousands of dollars on eBay. Sca (talk) 20:26, 9 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Sca- I am almost certain I have seen Danzig notes in the collection and will look again. There are large numbers of Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia notes, but not in high grade. I recently worked up an interesting note for the Russo-Chinese Bank article: Cyrillic writing, designed and engraved by the American Bank Note Company. I have focused on U.S. notes because my initial goal was to have a nearly complete image reference by design on Wikipedia for U.S. bank notes from 1861 to the present. I'm probably about between 60-70% complete. Thinking about your interest, I don't know if this is going too far- how about a bank note from a country that never existed? --Godot13 (talk) 20:43, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, why not? Ever read The Mouse That Roared? Sca (talk) 22:18, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * @Sca- Never read it but heard of it.--Godot13 (talk) 04:53, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Just be sure to double check the copyright on those. I'd love to see 'em, but if they can't be used there's little point (except for the Smithsonian's own documentation, of course). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:48, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * (Under Lithuanian law, copyright does not apply to "official State symbols and insignia.") Sca (talk) 13:33, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Perfect, the template even includes banknote designs explicitly! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:43, 11 September 2014 (UTC)




 * Of course, goes without saying...--Godot13 (talk) 01:17, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I've found that, too often, what goes without saying would work best if it is said. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:31, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * You are right...-Godot13 (talk) 01:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


 * While we're on the topic, this set is complete. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:10, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876
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You screwed up the big set.
File:McCULLOCH,_Hugh-Treasury_(BEP_engraved_portrait).jpg and File:WINDOM,_William-Treasury_(BEP_engraved_portrait).jpg are not on the nomination page, nor on the navigation between the engravings at each file page. Please advise. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:00, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * 172 & counting. Armbrust The Homunculus 13:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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 * Many thanks Gwillhickers, much appreciated...--Godot13 (talk) 04:54, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I was working in my sandbox on the above barnstar and somehow I hit the save button on your page too early. That can happen when you have a dozen different tabs open. Anyway, a special barnstar for extraordinary efforts. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 05:24, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Gwillhickers-LOL! Even better...--Godot13 (talk) 05:49, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

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Congrats on getting this to FL!  Snuggums ( talk  /  edits ) 06:01, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations
Well, when I got around to chime in, the list had already been promoted, the efforts of which are deserving of a barnstar all by itself, but I think the above award has it covered. Congratulations! -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:33, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

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Have a smoke

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In one month's time, we will know our WikiCup 2014 champion. Newcomer has taken a strong lead with a featured list (historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876) and a raft of featured pictures. Reigning champion is in second place with a number of high-importance biology articles, including new FA Isopoda and new GA least weasel. , who is in his fifth WikiCup final, is in third, with featured articles Pictor and Epacris impressa.

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 * Nice job so far in the WikiCup, I reckon you've got this one in the bag! -  NickGibson3900 Talk 05:54, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks NickGibson3900, but it's not over 'til it's over...--Godot13 (talk) 06:07, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * @ B zw ee bl  - Many thanks for your kind words! --Godot13 (talk) 01:18, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Coins
Another great currency image Hafs, thanks. Do you know of any still life paintings with paper currency (any country but preferably US) by artists like William Harnett or John F. Peto, both of whom appear to have been inspirational for Otis Kaye (sadly still under copyright but see [here] and [here]). --Godot13 (talk) 19:07, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Will check on... Hafspajen (talk) 23:06, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha! Brilliant! --Godot13 (talk) 23:08, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hafspajen--And the second Peto has one Fractional note!--Godot13 (talk) 17:34, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thought you would notice. And is a Google file, feel free to nominate it... Hafspajen (talk) 17:38, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Allow me to present you your patron saint -> here Saint Eligius. Hafspajen (talk) 12:06, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * He covered a lot of ground as a patron saint!--Godot13 (talk) 19:04, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hafspajen- organized a bit, hope that's okay...-Godot13 (talk) 19:32, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

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Valued Image nomination
Hi Godot, I just nominated a stamp image at Valued image candidates but I'm not exactly sure if I followed the procedure correctly, esp as concerns 'Scope'. Could you give it a look to see if everything's in order, and also leave any comments, etc? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:20, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Gwillhickers- Done. The nom needed a bit of work regarding scope but I tweaked a little bit, make sure you're okay with the wording...-Godot13 (talk) 21:42, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help -- and your support!  Btw, you didn't sign your user name to the vote of support. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 23:51, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oops... done.--Godot13 (talk) 23:55, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

One Hogshead, please
Just finished working on and uploading this image. Thought you'd appreciate it. Going to nominate it for Valued Image. As soon as I can find a 'home' for it (an article) I'd like to nominate it for featured picture. Think it will fly? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 02:42, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * For valued it shouldn't be a problem (particularly if there aren't any others exactly like it). For FP I'd have some comments about the coloring (differences between outer edges and center, which may be realistic) but there is a lot of dirt (specks, little lines, etc) that would probably need a little restoration. The problem becomes restoring a small JPG...--Godot13 (talk) 17:02, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't (i.e.shouldn't) a reviewer take into account that the stamp is over 140 years old, and perhaps even consider the imperfections and paper color variation as something which reveals the artifact to be very old? If the stamp looked like it was fresh off the press, with uniform snow white paper throughout and vivid color, it seems the stamp would come off looking like a modern day reproduction. Anyway, you have indeed given me something to think about here, and for the experience, I'll see what I can do in terms of restoration. Thanks. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:56, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Is this an issued and used stamp or a proof? For issued and used I would agree that there would be some leeway involved, but someone will probably suggest some restoration...-Godot13 (talk) 19:35, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * It's a proof -- and I'm beginning to agree more. As you can see from the image here, I went ahead and did some touch up work in the upper margin so it's not so murky looking and uploaded the new version. Btw, I just nominated it for VI. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 22:28, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * What resolution's the scan at? 1200dpi or 2400dpi would probably be best if you're aiming at FPC and have easy access to the object. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:12, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, I'd aim for a set nomination for those, if we've got a complete set of scans (beautiful stamps, btw). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:14, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Gwillhickers - I agree with Crisco (and I see you've got a few going). Last time I was down at the Smithsonian I started scanning a bunch of customs and revenue stamps (with a focus on the beer stamps). I couldn't find these early ones (perhaps they were part of the NBNC archives since it was before the BEP officially took over everything). The ones I got (quasi-randomly) were portrait revenue stamps starting in 1878 (no color). I expect to be back in a few weeks and can look some more. I would imagine there could be a (featured) list in this if we can put some complete series together... want to collaborate?--Godot13 (talk) 05:29, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Beer stamps of the United States? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:32, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Now that works...--Godot13 (talk) 06:18, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

It seems we need to find some other sources besides the Smithsonian Postal Museum, not that it's not good enough, it's probably among the best, but we don't want an article being tagged for heavily relying on one source. Scott's catalog isn't much help. Aside from not including beer stamps, they only offer generic and summary info on revenues altogether. There are a few books listed in google, but they are not viewable on line so I'm not sure how well they cover beer stamps. Would like to offer the readers something besides just a list if that's possible -- at least a list with a good lede and perhaps a section devoted to some of the finer points, history, etc. I've been searching for websites that cover this difficult topic with not much luck, so far.. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 16:22, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, trust me. When it comes to list writing, Godot's got your back. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:35, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's the sort of list I'd like to see and I've no doubts as to Godot's writing ability, but again, we're going to need more than one good source, which it seems is all we have at present. Will continue to search -- and the more 'torch bearers' the better. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:19, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm willing to selectively expand my numismatic library... If there is something that seems particularly helpful, but not available online, let me know. As soon as this Cup is over at the end of the month I'll have a serious look for resources too.--Godot13 (talk) 17:28, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm trying to find a book with the title,  'Everything you could possibly want to know about Beer Stamps that Scotts never bothered to mention' . -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:45, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Restoration
Here's an image I captured off of e'Bay. The left is the original and the copy to the right is (my attempt at) a restoration. Would like to know how this fares in terms of nominating other images (not this one per se) with similar restoration. I first added contrast, and then enhanced the color saturation. Once this is done, adding sharpness/clarity is easier to effect, compared to trying to sharpen an image that is not as defined. As I'm sure you know, you have to see the image in full view/resolution to really see the difference in sharpness. Thoughts? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:23, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You're working with a small canvas to begin with, and the scan size (probably a jpeg too) is not conducive to working on it a lot. At thumbnail size the restoration looks a bit sharper but at full size it's noticeable, but so are the flaws in both (based on the original you were working from). To give you an idea, I started looking at some of the scan I made of the "larger" tax stamps (beer) at 800dpi in TIF and I think they might cut it size-wise for FP. The smaller tax stamps (or regular postage stamps) I think 1,200dpi or above is what's necessary (2,400dpi would be optimal). For VI at Commons, look at what you would consider the best similar example - if yours is a significant improvement over what exists then nominating it makes sense. IMO...--Godot13 (talk) 01:42, 7 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Careful not to sharpen too much. The white on black edges are starting to look pixelated. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:43, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Better scope
I changed the scope/category on my Valued Image nomination from Category:Revenue stamps to Category:Revenue stamps of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service. I'm hoping this will narrow the field down to a more acceptable level. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 08:56, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You're running into the problem I predicted with the scope issue on two of your current noms... Personally I think the names of the images need to be more organized so they can be naturally sorted into different and smaller scopes. I'm happy to help with that. For example, the beer stamps might best be organized for easy review if they were named something like "US Beer revenue stamp-$1 (Series 1871) - Hamilton" or "US Beer revenue stamp-$1 (Series 1871) - Jefferson". Different categories are created for each series, and those sub-categories are put into US Beer revenue stamps, which in turn is inside US revenue stamps. I haven't been active at VI for almost nine months, so some rules could have changed, but this is how I was able to have multiple VIs within the same category...--Godot13 (talk) 15:20, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all your help. I've been thinking about coming up with a uniform naming convention for the Beer Stamps. I have file mover rights so I'll take care of that shortly, but it would seem best not to do this right in the middle of a nomination, at least for the nominated image, esp since multiple beer stamp images haven't been nominated at the same time. As for the best scope, I gather that the scope should be as specific as possible and that we should stay away from categories that are an umbrella for other more specific categories.  But this begs the question -- Wouldn't the 'value' of an image increase if there was a broader, or more than one, scope? I realize we can only use one category/scope in the VI template, but does it help matters to comment, as I've done, to note that a given image can be a valuable image in more than one instance? In any event, what category would you suggest be used, or created, for the beer stamp nom?  (Wait -- don't go, I only have ten more questions.) -- Gwillhickers (talk) 16:14, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem... I would suggest creating a category within US Internal Revenue called Beer Stamps (but there may already be an alcohol-related tax stamp category, in which case Beer Stamps should go there). Add the new category to each of the beer stamps. If you have a good, sorting/descriptive naming convention it will be easy to nominate multiple stamps within the same category, it's all based on the scope. The scope can (and should) have multiple parts. The linkable part of the scope is the physical category in which the stamp resides or is being judged against the other occupants. But you can add modifiers to limit the scope of what you are proposing. To say that a given stamp is the most valuable image in all of revenue stamps is nearly impossible to judge as they are from different series, difference sizes, etc. But, if you were to nominate the 1871 Hamilton Beer stamp with the following scope -- "Revenue stamps of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service (Beer stamp, 1871, Hamilton)" you are telling the reviewer exactly what scope to use to determine if this is the most valued image. The broader you get, the more difficult the judging, and the fewer valued images will be supported. If you succeeded in the current nomination, you would only be able to achieve a single VI for the entire category. Here are a few examples of some of my VIs with two or three-part scopes: 1 2 3 4. If you start reading a theme into these images... it's all just in your head ;-) --Godot13 (talk) 16:43, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, your reasoning seems to be valid here. Also, already someone has cited that I have nominated more than one image for the same scope/category. (Category:Revenue stamps of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service) -- See: Hamilton Beer revenue stamp $2 Hogshead.JPG and Washington Revenue $1 1862 issue.JPG nominations. The issue raised here doesn't seem to be consistent with the idea that multiple images can be nominated for featured pictures. Don't quite understand why more than one image can't be valuable for a given scope -- but then I don't want to challenge VI criteria, too much anyway. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:07, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You said Featured pictures, you mean Valued images, no? Totally different animals Take a look at the modified scope I added to the Hamilton 1871 VI nom and you will see how multiple images in a single broad category can be VI...--Godot13 (talk) 17:12, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I compared the two. Okay, will look into your changes. (Please bear with me and again, your time and effort is much appreciated here.) -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:17, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Japanese occupation currency (Philippines)

 * For everybody, who is still counting... it's now 233 FPs this year. Armbrust The Homunculus 13:21, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Re: Confederate States of America dollar
Greetings Godot13. In editing the article Confederate States of America dollar] you are adding a reference "Fricke 2014" the book by Fricke in the bibliography is dated 2008. Are you using a 2014 edition of that book? If so, can you update the bibliography or add the isbn for the 2014 edition. Thanks, - - MrBill3 (talk) 05:56, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * MrBill3-Thanks for pointing that out (I forgot to add the reference to the latest edition of the book). --Godot13 (talk) 06:13, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Boom, that was fast. Is the 2008 edition used? If not it can be removed from the biblio. If 2008 was the first edition that info can be retained in the cite for the 2014 ed. using the " |origyear= parameter. Thanks for stepping up so fast. I hope you like the sfn style I sort of imposed. Best. - - MrBill3 (talk) 06:18, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * MrBill3-Haha! I think the 2008 is still used, but I can go through and check/convert the refs (next month, finishing up in the WikiCup right now). I was thinking of expanding the article into a list (sounds backward) that includes at 72 types of Confederate note...--Godot13 (talk) 07:06, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Is this money he has in his hands?
Hafspajen (talk) 12:44, 10 October 2014 (UTC) http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=126012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/giacomo-filippo-turrini-229181 http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/full.php?ID=126012 http://www.heraldrysinstitute.com/cognomi/Turrini+Rossi/Italia/idc/3828/lang/en/
 * Hafs- Interesting... The Chinese used paper receipts as currency as early as c. 700 and issued a "banknote" by c. 1400. The first circulating banknotes in Europe were printed by Sweden (1661) in Riksdalers. I suspect that banknotes were not a circulating medium during the artist's lifetime (c. 1600). Perhaps they are receipts/orders? --Godot13 (talk) 19:38, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah but if you are sick, what do you need like 15 receipts for? Hafspajen (talk) 19:40, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * A you mean ... receipts. Well the Medici family were bankers already in the 1500-s. Hafspajen (talk) 19:59, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

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Yours was "fun" to document accurately. It's alright. I don't hate you yet; I'm saving that for this week's set. ;) Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:41, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL! If you want me to work up a draft I'd be happy to, up to you. Thanks for all the effort you put into the Signpost.--Godot13 (talk) 22:42, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

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.'Why aren't people voting on the dollars, Godot? Can't notice anything wrong with them .. and only three votes, and one day left... Hafspajen (talk) 22:44, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hafspajen- Possibly the saturation point... too bad because I really only have 2-3 sets of currency left. Some may not realize how rare this stuff is if it keeps getting presented in sets. Of the Series 1880 up now, from the $50 to $1,000 are probably the finest condition known for these notes. If it weren't for the WikiCup, I would have slowed all of this down months ago...--Godot13 (talk) 23:23, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Hm, well, try breaking them up into individual noms - maybe - what a shame. I would withdraw it in the last moment -like three hours before closing - (poor Armb.) and go for the individual nomination of each of them, the fine portraits on them could tell a story - no? Like separate nomination: George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Abraham Lincoln ... one for each of them.Hafspajen (talk) 23:27, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * That's possible, but if it doesn't work, I'll put them up later... Each could tell a story, but their EV is really being able to see the entire set together (but, come to think of it, each one is in the article about it's denomination).--Godot13 (talk) 23:55, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, crap, is it one day left already? I carefully reviewed one of them, but wanted to take the time to review all of them. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:59, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * It's passing. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:49, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Silver certificate (Cuba)
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Danzig
Thanks for your update. I find the Freie Stadt Danzig notes aesthetically superb.

I believe there is Notgeld currency from numerous German locales — mostly to do with the Inflation. Sca (talk) 13:49, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Sca-As I type this, on the shelves behind me are (conservatively) tens of thousands of Notgeld. I also picked out a few choice Czechoslovakian notes and some early Russian assignats. If there's anything you forgot to mention, let me know...--Godot13 (talk) 14:50, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Bleve genuine Danzig notes (not reproductions) are worth quite a lot, as are some of the coins. Sca (talk) 21:01, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

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 * Emperor Norton scrip. Next trip down I'll try to find one...-Godot13 (talk) 23:23, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * This'd be a fun one to have a set of. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:43, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

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Godot WHAT am doing wrong ? I never succceeeed adding anything at the votes needed.. There are two windows is that what the problem - I think looks exactly as the other - but the link is redHafspajen (talk) 21:59, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

No. Hafspajen (talk) 23:25, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hafs- I fixed the issue. What may become confusing is when you give the name of the nomination an image name (that starts with "File:"). For the Urgent Template --FPC urgents/Row|NomName|File:Foo.jpg|LinkName-- The FPC page heading (Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Portrait of a Man by Jan van Eyck-small.jpg) contains the NomName, it is everything after the backslash (/), including "File:" and ".jpg" if that is part the name you chose. If the nomination name is the same as the image name, then you are using the exact same thing in both NomName and File:Foo.jpg. You probably don't need to worry about the LinkName. Does this make sense? -- Godot13 (talk) 23:22, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hafs- For your nomination, this is what it needed to look like inside the brackets (with the nom name and image name being the same): FPC urgents/Row|File:Portrait of a Man by Jan van Eyck-small.jpg|File:Portrait of a Man by Jan van Eyck-small.jpg If the title of your nom was Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Ass-kicking van Eyck painting and you used the current image file, it would look like this: FPC urgents/Row|Ass-kicking van Eyck painting|File:Portrait of a Man by Jan van Eyck-small.jpg
 * Any clearer?--Godot13 (talk) 23:36, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Ideally, though, you might want to add a name for the nomination, thought. So:


 * Where:
 * Green text is from the page your nom is on. If the nom is Featured picture candidates/Adam Cuerden, the part you want is: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/ Adam Cuerden In this case, the link to the nom is Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Portrait of a Man by Jan van Eyck-small.jpg, so the text to include is Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/ File:Portrait of a Man by Jan van Eyck-small.jpg
 * Orange text is the link to your picture. So, if the picture is File:Portrait of a Man by Jan van Eyck-small.jpg you include all of that. This happens to be the same as the green text from the last step - but it doesn't have to be.
 * Blue is what to show next to the image.
 * Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:49, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * OK. Now can you explain to me what I was doing wrong the last time. And do I have to add the file name in the separate box under? There are two boxes coming up. Where do I add the above. Hafspajen (talk) 23:54, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Basically, you put things in the wrong order. You put them in as:

But your nomination is Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/ File:Portrait of a Man by Jan van Eyck-small.jpg, your filename is Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Portrait of a Man by Jan van Eyck-small.jpg , and your suggested description of the nomination is Jan van Eyck Portrait of a Man with Red Turban

So it should be

Basically, computers are dumb, and have to have the information fed to them as they expect it. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:03, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, will read this carefully, thanks. Hafspajen (talk) 13:52, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification

 * Hi Godot, just to let you know, I'm scheduling the North African series of silver notes for 7 November. I'd be glad if you could have a look at Template:POTD/2014-11-07/1, Template:POTD/2014-11-07/2, and Template:POTD/2014-11-07/3 to let me know what can be touched up. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:46, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- I get home Sunday night, will do by mid week.--Godot13 (talk) 01:58, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks. Give the banknotes my love. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:00, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- You're crackin' me up... BTW, I think I (we) now have a complete set of Japanese invasion money (all locations) for that FL. Interestingly, the Netherlands Indian roepiah article is a bit off. The invasion money (De Japansche Regeering) was in cents and gulden only (not roepiah) and was issued in 1942 but is undated on the actual notes (we have a complete set). Even the illustration is in gulden. There was an issue by the Japanese (Pemerintah Dai Nippon) between 1944-45 which consisted on 100 and 1,000 roepiah notes (we have both images) followed by an Imperial Empire issue (Dai Nippon Teikoku Seihu) in 1944 denominated in 1/2, 1, 5, 10, and 100 roepiah (could not find any of these). The Japanese-issue roepiah (I think) is something obviously related, but not invasion money...--Godot13 (talk) 02:54, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Interesting... I'll have to see if there are any numismatists who'd have information on that. But wouldn't an issue by an invading force be invasion money, by definition? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:17, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- It's possible, since the roepiah issues are two years later, that the occupying provisional government granted charters to some Japanese banks to operate in Indonesia. I'll try and follow that up, but if it is the case, I'm not sure it would be invasion money per se (though it would have been forced on the local population). It will make for some interesting research... --Godot13 (talk) 04:29, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Could have, in part, been an attempt to distance the populace from Dutch influences by their language use. If I'm not mistaken, roepia was already in use in the early 20th century to refer to the Gulden. I think some of my novelizations of Saeroen's films use the term. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:34, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco - DJB source with some additional info...--Godot13 (talk) 04:50, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * "The invasion virtually ended", eh? The rebelling PETA troops would beg to differ (they fought the Japanese in several places, including in Semarang). Thanks for the link. Interesting. Maybe some time I can expand the Indonesian occupation money article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:59, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco - I did a little tweaking on the templates, please make sure they are okay with you. Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 05:49, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks great. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:00, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for US Treasury specimen book
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Nominating a set
Aye Godot, I'd like to nominate a set of 5 images for FP but don't quite know how to go about nominating more than one image at a time. Before I do however I'd like your advice on whether I should nominate these five Beer revenue stamps, (w/ portraits) (tucked away in collapsible box) used in the Revenue stamps of the United States article. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:17, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Gwillhickers - I notice you were able to upload larger images to comfortably exceed the minimum requirement. Normally I would say that some kind of cleaning/restoration is needed, but given they are specific museum pieces I think they are fine as is. The article is richly illustrated which may very well attract more readers. This could also dilute the EV of any given single image or set. The set you propose is “hidden” which I think negatively impacts the encyclopedic value. Sets, contrary to the opinions of some (outside of FP), can be very complicated in the unifying principle but (in my experience) need to be complete. The Series 1871 Beer revenue stamp was issued in $12 1/2$, $16 2/3$, 25, $33 1/3$, and 50 cents, as well as the 1 and 2 dollar denominations. The $33 1/3$ is important to picture. With the $33 1/3$, the set (not hidden but prominently highlighted, possibly in its own article or list as we had previously discussed) is a good contender.--Godot13 (talk) 23:39, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course, a set must be 'complete', not just a selection of one's own choosing. I'll go ahead and nominate the $2 Hamilton beer stamp (not hidden), along with nominating one which is hidden and see how it fares, with the idea that when a reader sees the one attractive stamp he/she will want to see the others. Thanks very much for your thoughts. Much appreciated. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 00:03, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Nominating an image in a gallery (visible) is generally an uphill battle to FP. Personally, I've never seen an image in a hidden gallery nominated before, just FYI...--Godot13 (talk) 00:22, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. Will just go with the one image for now. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 02:16, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

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 * Are we at 300 yet? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:41, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * ...269... --Godot13 (talk) 09:50, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks like you'll have 300 by the end of the year, though. Congrats! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:25, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
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Lovely Halloween
Hafspajen (talk) 17:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC) ...
 * Why thank you Hafs, I shall use these wisely...Cyberduck icon.png --Godot13 (talk) 17:29, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * , before you go on complaing more about me, right - kida tired now about it - watch this section. This all I can tell, there are things you don't realize. Hafspajen (talk) 16:56, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * , it's okay. I am kind of tired too. It sometimes seems to me you can come across as too harsh and not so kind. But I don't know everything and you also don't know everything. Lets' just separate as past friends, who are over each other. I am going to take you off my watchlist, so you won't have to be annoyed at me any more. I do not want to make you angry enough to ban me from your talk page and have my name up there in your scolding warning section. Peace, Hafs. I will try my best not to see you around.  <b style="color:#595454">Fylbecatulous</b> <b style="color:#DB7093">talk</b> 17:14, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * , think this, and for a while maybe you should quit checking my edits, I might have my own reasons - and I never try to discourage good fait editors. and of course would't put your name in the so called your scolding warning section - if I could mail you I could tell you quite a lot about this - but as it is,, you misundertand this one.  Hafspajen (talk) 17:21, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * - Am I missing something?--Godot13 (talk) 17:22, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * And I won't be watching this section and I apologise, Godot13, for intruding on your talk page...I was pinged. ツ Peace to you too.  <b style="color:#595454">Fylbecatulous</b> <b style="color:#DB7093">talk</b> 17:25, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * , I just said I am taking you off my watchlist, so I will voluntarily not be seeing any of your work or edits from now own. There is a lot you don't know too. Alas. <b style="color:#595454">Fylbecatulous</b> <b style="color:#DB7093">talk</b> 17:27, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries <b style="color:#595454">Fylbecatulous</b>.--Godot13 (talk) 17:30, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Godot, sorry. . Hafspajen (talk) 17:41, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Place holder
Featured picture candidates/First Netherlands Indies gulden Godot13 (talk) 17:00, 29 October 2014 (UTC)  ...280...

Danzig - 2


Sure, be glad to help with editing or whatever. I've read quite a lot about Danzig. Sca (talk) 14:27, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Cuban silver certificate proofs (BEP)

 * Oh... and the count is now at 304. Armbrust The Homunculus 20:21, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Tax collectors

 * Only 23%, that's not bad...--Godot13 (talk) 07:43, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 32 % then ... Hafspajen (talk) 16:11, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

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Congratulations on your victory in the WikiCup. I could see way back in September that you would be likely to win if you continued nominating your excellent images at Featured Pictures at the same rate. After that realisation, I eased back on writing new articles for DYK, which had slowed down dramatically in any event, although I still managed 65 in the two month final round. I could have tried to speed up the FAC of Barn owl and the two GANs currently under review that seem to have stalled, but there was little point with you so far in the lead. The other finalists may also have abandoned hope at an early stage.

I had thought I ought to retire from the Cup if I were victorious again, so I am quite pleased that you have won, because I enjoy taking part and would feel disappointed at having to give it a miss. :-) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:16, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Cwmhiraeth- Many thanks for your most gracious note. The only reason I pushed so hard to stay ahead is because I never quite knew what you had up your sleeve. You are a juggernaut (the unstoppable part) in the WikiCup and I owe my good fortune in part to the small pool of FP reviewers who did not burn-out but perhaps learned a few new things about banknotes. I do not know whether I will participate again, but I do look forward to watching you compete again next year!--Godot13 (talk) 17:18, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!



 * Thanks for the coffee Hafs, I understand...--Godot13 (talk) 18:09, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Intelligent guy. Hafspajen (talk) 18:10, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Cuban banknotes and WP:MILHIST
For practical purposes, I'm thinking the gallery should just contain the final proofs of the sides with the Cuban heroes. That sound good? I don't think we could CSS crop in a gallery. Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:27, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Adam- If the main goal is to show the portrait, it's probably best to just use the front of the 1936 certified proofs (black and white, with purple stamp) so yes, I agree as they are all hard cropped and uniform.--Godot13 (talk) 18:10, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * A few here that may belong in the gallery too...--Godot13 (talk) 18:18, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

List of people on United States banknotes
Sorry I didn't respond earlier, but I haven't had as much time for editing as I've wanted lately and this slipped my mind. Your idea sounds good, but I am concerned about using an experimental photograph style in a list that is going on the main page. My suggestion is to replace the portraits and see how the new ones work. If they work fine, great; if not, they can be removed without exposure to reader criticism. Giants2008 ( Talk ) 16:11, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Giants2008 - No worries. The articles I've used it in all seem to work well (see first 10 in List of Presidents of the United States, and Cuban silver certificates. I'll get the thumbnails ready, insert them in a few edits, and let you know. If you have concerns, simply undo the edits. Okay?--Godot13 (talk) 18:06, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Giants2008 - I've made 47 (out of 53) substitutions so far, at least 40 are with banknotes that are featured pictures. Please let me know what you think.--Godot13 (talk) 05:42, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I like the new system, and it helps that we are linking to other featured content. It looks good to me, although we'll have to look out for any complaints. If someone is confused by the large photos, you could always add an explanatory sentence to the table intro. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 23:22, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Giants2008 - Fantastic, glad to hear. I'll finish up the rest (there will be 5 images for which I don't have notes, but can work on it). I'll make a footnote for the images column in the table very briefly explaining the crop to full image link. I'll finish the images in a single second edit, therefore if anything should go wrong, the two edits can be reverted/rolled back without other damage...--Godot13 (talk) 23:41, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

MILHIST FPs
Thanks for pointing out the set with all the Union generals on dollar bills. I shall certainly add that, but, as we had a bumper month this month, I'm going to make it part of November's list, as November, without the Wikicup, will likely be a little slower. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:18, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Adam - No problem at all. The last two images from this set might also be appropriate...--Godot13 (talk) 01:06, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That's one of those ones where it's a little hard to tell - I mean, the original painting, definitely would be, but these are primarily being used as extracted examples of details on US banknotes. So could go either way. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:11, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Adam- Understood. The actual note for Surrender of Gen. Burgoyne is featured (and it's one of three known). Either way, I get it. Any word on the use of css image crop? I'm prepping portraits for my first FL (going on the MP later this month) as the css template has never given me issues when presented in a table format...--Godot13 (talk) 01:36, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, it's certainly better than cropping an image outside of CSS. That said, I do want to avoid getting people in the habit of, for example, cropping out half of a Mathew Brady image to get a face and shoulder pic - as that's bad practice in 99% of cases anyway, so I worry about providing too much freedom to people not educated on appropriate image use - over the years, I've heard way too many really flat-out stupid suggestions for using images, like cropping a Victorian montage print into individual images. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:39, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup awards

 * My apologies, with everything that has been going on I forgot something very important: thank you, , and for the herculean task of keeping the game running. It was an incredible challenge and (despite some of the BS involved in discussion over-eager FP critics during the game) I enjoyed the competition and feel like I was able to contribute to Wikipedia in a meaningful way...--Godot13 (talk) 06:57, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014: The results
The 2014 WikiCup champion is, who flew the flag of the Smithsonian Institution. This was Godot13's first WikiCup competition and, over the 10 months of the competition, he has produced (among other contributions) two featured lists and an incredible 292 featured pictures, including architectural photographs and scans of historical documents. , 2012 and 2013 WikiCup champion, came in second, having written a large number of biology-related articles. , WikiCup finalist every year since 2010, finished in third.

A full list of our prize-winners follows:


 * wins the prize for first place and the FP prize for 181 featured pictures in the final round.
 * wins the prize for second place and the DYK prize for 65 did you knows in the final round.
 * wins the prize for third place and the FA prize for four featured articles in the final round.
 * wins the prize for fourth place
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins the GA prize for 27 good articles in round 2 and the review prize for 28 good article reviews in round 1.
 * wins the FL prize for three featured lists in round 2.
 * wins the FPo prize his work on featured portals.
 * wins the topic prize for a nine-article featured topic in round 3.
 * wins the news prize for 28 in the news articles in round 3.

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Congrats
Hey Godot13! Congratulations on being the winner of the 2014 WikiCup. Your restorations of photos and banknotes to FP status are highly appreciated. If you are willing to compete in the 2015 WikiCup, the signups are open now. Best, ///Euro Car  GT  23:06, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks ///Euro Car .--Godot13 (talk) 07:51, 8 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Indeed, way to go! (But we're not losing you yet, right? I mean, you can still make 350 in one year!) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:55, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
 * ((gulp...)) I'm on life support, but I'm not gone yet. Seriously I'm not sure how much juice I have left right now (working on some right-brain stuff in my user space to give the other side a break). Maybe I should just reach into my magic hat and pull out a ready-made set? Cause, ya know, that's how we do it... (imagine face-palm image here).--Godot13 (talk) 02:45, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * (There's a template for that). I've got... images of probably 5 different dances which are good to go up for FPC, one of which still needs an article written about it. But the three I've nominated so far are not drawing any comments, so I'll hold back on my most recent (condong). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:33, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

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Source
Given negatives are very often flipped horizontally:



Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:34, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Nice...-Godot13 (talk) 07:44, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * And both are featured! Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:16, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Andrew,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Israel-2013-Aerial 21-Masada.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on December 14, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-12-14. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:28, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Japanese occupation money

 * Say, do you have scans of the 1944 printings? (The "roepiah"?) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:13, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, I think I've gone far enough with the history section. If we can cite the specifications of the bills and expand the lead, we can build ourselves a featured list. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:22, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I will flesh that out tomorrow (later today).--Godot13 (talk) 09:30, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Awesome. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:35, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * (ec)Crisco- There is a 1944-45 Pemerintah Dai Nippon 100 and 1,000 roepiah (don't have either) and a Dai Nippon Teikoku Seihu (1944): one-half, one, five, ten, and 100 (I have images of all except the one-half). I was actually doing some reading on this today and it seems that Japanese gulden was used significantly for a year or so post-occupation because there was so much readily available. I'll get some of the Japanese roepiah up later today/tomorrow--Godot13 (talk) 09:24, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I see you've been busy...-Godot13 (talk) 09:25, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The Cribb article is the one I was reading today. Dense, but good info...--Godot13 (talk) 09:28, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Very dense (*shudder*). I hope I didn't mess up too bad. Do you have any good sources on the use of the currency during the occupation itself (printing, etc.)? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:30, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Will look. Did you come across this? Not better than Gibbs, but a bit different coverage...--Godot13 (talk) 09:50, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- I found a few examples of "NICA" notes printed by American Bank Note Company. Might be helpful to work up one or two in the article seeing as they were printed (but not issued) at the same time, no?--Godot13 (talk) 00:07, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * This is awesome. I'll have to ask RX later. What's the copyright on the NICA notes? (1945) (Also, what's the full citation for Gibbs? Is that what you referenced for the new section?) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:19, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco-Article is en route already... Series date on the notes is 3 March 1943. Although engraved and printed by American Bank Note at the behest of NICA, final authorization was by Royal Dutch decree. Based on series date and Dutch authority, that puts us at 71.5 years (EU anonymous). That was my thinking...--Godot13 (talk) 00:43, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * But isn't 70 Anon for published works? The notes weren't "published" (circulated) until 1945 in Borneo and eastern Indonesia, and 1946 in Java (Cribb). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:47, 27 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Humpf... This will take some thought...--Godot13 (talk) 00:56, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- Yup, no way around this one (barring a newspaper article in Jakarta discussing the NICA notes in late 1943...). I added the refs for the first paragraph on issuance (more to come). Ref #13 is based on Cribb's comment on the ORI notes. But it was the same machinery (unless it was downgraded) the Japanese notes were printed on, beginning in 1943, so I generalized the reference. Is that okay?--Godot13 (talk) 02:30, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * What about one fair-use NICA image? At least readers get a sense for what it is...--Godot13 (talk) 03:07, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I think that, under a strict interpretation of WP:RS, that may have difficulty floating. Not too sure if the NICA one should be here, or in its own article. I mean, it was issued by a different government, and there are probably enough sources to support an article. (I've added Yoshimasa; hopefully the weighting and my understanding of the material are appropriate). Are you okay with me nominating this at DYK while its still in construction? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:40, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Understood. By all mean on the DYK, I think we're in good shape (and looking good for a FLC in a short while...)--Godot13 (talk) 05:49, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Excellent (though for the description, I rather like having it in tables, like at banknotes of the rupiah but with sources... otherwise we may have people question whether this is a list or an article). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:59, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco-Given that concern, perhaps the layout of the tables should be consecutive, not concurrent (gives it more of a "list" feeling)? Also, the citation link you provide for Cuhaj takes me to a 2009 edition. Using the 2012 version, your page numbers put you in Morocco. If you don't mind, I'll verify the page numbers (for Cuhaj) and tweak as necessary--Godot13 (talk) 06:08, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Dammit! Yes, thanks. Banknotes of the Rupiah is what I meant (on a side note: I've got most of the pre-revision notes scanned, just not uploaded... missing a good copy of the old 20k bill). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:24, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- I added a bit more info into the banknote tables (printing blocks and images depicted). I'm not married to either, let me know what you think...--Godot13 (talk) 07:21, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Love it. Worth including the size as well? Or format of the serial numbers? Sorry for the late response, got a translation job... I'm thinking of using part of the money for a new camera body with better low-light performance. We'll see about that. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:38, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco-FPC nom up...--Godot13 (talk) 21:20, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Grand. I've got the old 10k note up, and its garish colours. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:24, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

1928 series notes

 * Scheduling the 1928 series, but I noticed that the Series of 1928 (United States Currency) article also includes a 20, 50, and 100, 500, 1000, etc. note. So... what happened here? Are the larger notes all part of the 1928 series, or? Also, the 1928 article does not include the $1 note in the running text. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:00, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Cool... There were a few types of small size 1928 notes: Legal Tender, Silver, Federal Reserve, and Gold. Only Legal Tender and Silver had a $1 and a $2. With the FRN denoms under $500 in the article I had planned to nominate them as a set but for some reason did not. Do you think it would be okay to nominate (now) the $5-$100 (along with the already featured $500-$10,000, not for promotion) to have the complete FRN 1928 denomination set? I will also tidy up/improve the article a bit...--Godot13 (talk) 01:18, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The smaller denominations would be a nice set, yes. So I should link to United States Note for the blurb? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:33, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Which 1928 set are you scheduling? There was one of Federal Reserve Notes and another of Gold Certificates. Neither should link to United States Note (unless you want to run the small size 1928 #1 set of $1, $2, and $5, some of my first currency FPs actually)...--Godot13 (talk) 01:46, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco 1492-I get it now, you're scheduling the 1928 legal tender (United States Notes) $1, $2, $5... Funny, I just moved them to the series 1928 article as well. Yes, that would be the correct link United States Note.--Godot13 (talk) 01:49, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Right, POTD is scheduled on a FIFO basis (generally), and we're finally up to your earliest FPs. My earliest FPs with my Canon 60D are probably going to start showing up around ... mid-2015. Sorry I wasn't more clear (didn't realize there were so many 1928 series!) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:12, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- No worries. I hope to work on some numismatic topics next year to organize a bunch of this stuff. I need to learn the art of the GA. Are there any short to medium length GAs you would recommend as models for direct and to the point?--Godot13 (talk) 03:26, 27 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, I am fairly happy with Beauty Revealed and National Press Monument (not to mention the numerous films), but those aren't quite the same topic. Most of my GAs are under 20k in length, though admittedly the more recent are better put together. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:12, 27 November 2014 (UTC)


 * On an unrelated note (ouch!), do you think it better to hold off any future sets until a better condition 2004 issue note can be obtained (assuming it's possible)? Or is it okay like this? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco- (Ouch is right...) it doesn't appear to be a prohibitively scarce note and between the blueish staining on the lower front/upper reverse margin and the quasi-frayed (?) upper edge I would hope for a better example (i.e., something that feels visually crisper). If it's rarer than I'm giving credit then perhaps it's okay...--Godot13 (talk) 02:31, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I could probably get more, so yeah I'll put that off. These notes are in the strange position that they're too recent to really be collected (and sold to collectors), yet too old to actually get mint or near-mint condition notes in daily transactions. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:36, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, you can check out the POTD blurbs here, here, and here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:06, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Will do soon. Had a very long day...--Godot13 (talk) 02:05, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Tell me about it. (Well, not literally). Anywho, I'll do the page move. There's a ketoprak performance tonight; hopefully the lighting is good enough to allow some good shots. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:19, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Andrew,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Israel-2013-Aerial 00-Negev-Makhtesh Ramon.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on December 29, 2014. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2014-12-29. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:24, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Crisco-Will check it out, thanks! Also, the banknotes and Masada (both in the next week or so) look good).--Godot13 (talk) 11:33, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
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 * I dare say that that's a record. BTW, I got some images of Detroit which I may nominate in the coming week. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:00, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

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Happy Saint Lucia's day!

"Good Morning"Godot : Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia! 13 December is the day when Swedes perplex the rest of the world by showing up way too early in the morning dressed in white tunics, candles in their hair, singing and bringing saffron buns and breakfast in bed to nice people. Hope you have a bright day! Hafspajen (talk) 09:23, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
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A page used for propaganda
Hi Godot13 and thanks for your explanation about copy paste. I would like to ask you to look at this page which was hijacked by pro-Palestinian and used for propaganda. It has almost no info about the equipment but probably every mention of it in the media. If you think it does require change, I would love to hear your opinion of why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashtul (talk • contribs) 07:02, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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...for a 2014 total of 319 FPs...--Godot13 (talk) 05:50, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks Hpman2- I could probably get high res images from BEP certified proofs but I don't have access to issued notes from that bank.--Godot13 (talk) 19:37, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * ok, proofs are fine as well and anything from the "kidder national gold bank" if available ...thanksHpman2 (talk) 20:13, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * ok, proofs are fine as well and anything from the "kidder national gold bank" if available ...thanksHpman2 (talk) 14:21, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

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