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Mr. Blue?
Saw your charming blue houses on Haffy's talk. You might be interested in this one, which I used to walk past during a sojourn in Vilnius. I thought of it as the House of the Seven Dwarves. Sca (talk) 15:08, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 launch newsletter
Round one of the 2015 WikiCup has begun! So far we've had around 80 signups, which close on February 5. If you have not already signed up and want to do so, then you can add your name here. There have been changes to to several of the points scores for various categories, and the addition of Peer Reviews for the first time. These will work in the same manner as Good Article Reviews, and all of the changes are summarised here.

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Wikipedia Signpost/2015-01-14/Featured content
Hate to be a pain, but could you do a CSS crop of the Barrymore image? It needs to be more landscape, so that it doesn't completely dominate the page. Cheers! Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:38, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I'll just use a lobby card. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:20, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Adam- Because of the crop of the original the top/bottom on the css crop is not perfect... If you want to use it but need a different size, let me know...

--Godot13 (talk) 04:34, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, I had meant the Hamlet one. That image is below the minimum standards I'll consider for a Signpost image. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:36, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * LOL! It seemed an odd one. I'll work up the Hamlet...--Godot13 (talk) 04:52, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Adam-Two more options. If either is close let me know...--Godot13 (talk) 05:03, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I think I like the first one. But it needs to be 300px wide after crop. Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:05, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Adam-

Perfect, thank you! Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:03, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Simulations...
Is it just me who wants to see these simulations that the Wikicup team claims justify their point slashing of FPs? They can't have had very much information to base them on, and I strongly suspect they're bullshit. Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:08, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Almost certainly is... I just say f*** it all, let them have their kangaroo games. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:20, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * What I find interesting is the biggest proponent for cutting the value to 20 points used my margin of victory in the final round as a central central argument, yet the very same person left me a note (see very top of this page) saying (as I read it) that they stopped making a competitive effort early in the final round... Crisco- I value your advice and you have never misled me, but there is something fundamentally wrong in the way this was and still is being handled. The three "judges" were never elected by any community process, yet they have empowered themselves to re-interpret a difficult yet clear consensus, reached over time, between people who initially did not see eye to eye. I have left comments (civil, with an eventual edit summary reflecting frustration) of which none have yet to be directly addressed. I believe only after there were rumblings of the possible need for outside intervention was the completely arbitrary rule regarding one FP per article undone. The 20 point value is still outstanding. All of this is above and beyond the gigantic "F**k you" directed primarily at me and Adam...--Godot13 (talk) 05:52, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed, and to add to it there's the fact that, this time of year, most people are out with family or otherwise occupied. Implementing something so controversial when many participants aren't actually participating is yet another miscalculation. This fiasco's convinced me to never participate in the Cup, even though I could do pretty good at my normal rate. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:10, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm too angry to do it, but...
Would you be willing to draft a short article for the Signpost about the Wikicup and FPs? Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:36, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm currently on vacation with family. That's not to say I won't but 1) when would it be due and 2) do we get to eventually turn it into a satirical article?--Godot13 (talk) 06:20, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Shall we say the fourteenth or twenty-first, and yes? Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:54, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Adam if you want something about FP, I'll contribute but I have to decline the request to write something (neutral) about the Wikicup. A critical/psychological commentary perhaps, but that is not the task at hand. I saw the no confidence motion you started. At first I didn't want to vote because I was convinced that the scoring fiasco was only a symptom of a bigger problem and that the vote of no confidence should actually be directed toward the "judges". Upon reflection, it is the WikiCup as a competition that has lost my confidence. Of the 110 registered contestants, only one (ThaddeusB), along with Nergaal, Crisco, and you spoke up about the "judges" rejecting consensus and substituting their own rules. That is not the sign of a friendly competition, but rather one where competitors willingly turn a blind eye when it suits them. That is truly the biggest disappointment here.--Godot13 (talk) 23:20, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Rare issued notes and proofs of US currency
Hello Godot13.

Are there any websites or links that you could suggest to view high resolution rare bep proofs, proposed designs and of issued and unissued US paper currency such as the currency that you have uploaded here from the Smithsonian collection and what is not listed? Im looking for notes from the KIDDER NATIONAL GOLD BANK, and a few other rarities that are elusive.... Thanks in advance.Hpman2 (talk) 04:36, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hpman2- The Kidder National Gold Bank (Charter #1699) never actually issued any notes. They had 50 sheets of 50-100 and 75 sheets of 500-1000 printed and shipped from the Comptroller's office to the bank. However, the sheets sat in the bank's vault. Comptroller records indicate that all the sheets were returned from the bank to the Treasury. There has been rumor, based on a supposed serial number irregularity, that a single $50 or $100 could exist. All the BEP certified proofs are in the Smithsonian and we (I am a volunteer research associate) are in the middle of a digitization project which will bring all of the proof sheets online (in roughly 600dpi resolution). I believe, at this point, there are more of the National Numismatic Collection's issued notes on Wikipedia than any other site.--Godot13 (talk) 05:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC) OK, Thanks for the info... if you happen to come across anything from the kidder bank while you are scanning proofs, then please let me know. Hpman2 (talk) 16:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Administrators'_noticeboard
Could you handle the replies here? People are trying very hard to make a group upset be all about me. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:51, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Well put
. The blind eye to ignored consensus because "we don't care about WikiCup" is very saddening to me. --ThaddeusB (talk) 05:44, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ThaddeusB-Thanks, and also for your willingness to speak up.--Godot13 (talk) 05:52, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Your welcome. Between this and my own problems its been a pretty stressful week. --ThaddeusB (talk) 06:09, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ThaddeusB- I skimmed the discussions you referenced... Wow, that is some very stressful stuff. Good for you that despite the potential for some to see COI (probably wherever they look) you took the high road from the start. The situation with the WikiCup is very sad. It is too bad that the judges didn't/don't have the insight to recognize their fairly monumental error, or the willingness to reverse their decisions. More puzzling is the black and white mentality of the comments on AN. However, I wonder if the insinuation of abolishing the Cup is a warning to the judges to make changes. Perhaps I am just being too optimistic. --Godot13 (talk) 04:11, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

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Curious
Godot, I'm curious about the Danzig Gulden banknote scans we discussed last year. ?? Sca (talk) 22:25, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sca- I have not forgotten... I will start getting them up next week (I'm away right now). I hope to go back to the Smithsonian the following week and will try and fill holes.--Godot13 (talk) 23:18, 9 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Wow, 10 billion (milliarden) marks! Interesting that the Versailles-mandated Free City issued currency during the inflation that it claimed was Reichswährung (currency of the realm/empire) – but I suppose that with one of those you could buy, what? – a loaf of bread? (Ever read Remarque's The Black Obelisk? Quite an account of that era.) Sca (talk) 14:14, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sca - Agreed, the Bank of Danzig notes are beautiful, very well engraved, with vibrant rich colors (that do not go overboard). The quality difference between the Mark and Gulden notes is night and day. What I find fascinating in the Danzig Mark notes (and some other German notes and notgeld) is the clear illustration of inflation and even hyperinflation within a very short period...--Godot13 (talk) 23:36, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * An original 100 Gulden note is listed on eBay for $1,999. (A reproduction – with no serial no. – is listed at € 7.60.) Sca (talk) 15:51, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sca- One of the same denomination and series, in choice uncirculated, sold last September for $2,232.50. Last April, a 1,000 Gulden note (just shy of Gem Uncirculated) sold for $9,400. There is great demand for these notes. I'll try to find the issuance records to see how many were printed for each series/denomination.--Godot13 (talk) 19:50, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/A collection of paintings of that strange wild man who roamed the fields of Provence
You were not? That was bad. Uh. Sorry, but we really tried and it was as if nobody was really interested. Hafspajen (talk) 01:11, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hafspajen- You did a great job on the article for the images, a lot of detail and work. I'm not sure what all the others did? I know you tried to invite others to join. With respect, I like to do something to earn my stars. Seeing them randomly given away sort of devalues the whole process, in my opinion at least.--Godot13 (talk) 01:42, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry that you look at it this way. I don't mind sharing them. But since some people protested, it will probably not happen any more this kind of giant noms that often. But I think it is still fully valid if two or three people work together, one finds an image, the other one uploades it, they wrote an article on it and so on. Hafspajen (talk) 01:52, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * And I will never compete in any Wikicup anyway, just you know. I don't care for that kind of things. And Corinne will not do that either, so you don't have to worry about that, most have way to few FPs. I only care about making a picture known for lots and lots of people. That makes them happy and educate them too.  Hafspajen (talk) 01:54, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict with above) I have no issue with that, but the discussion in the talk pages doesn't reflect that. I don't mind sharing them either, but with people who contribute. This was a free-for-all. That may also be why some of the invited guests chose to pass... It also defeats the purpose of nominating something for review/support if the nominating group is so large commentary doesn't really matter. I have nothing against cooperative editing, but we may need different scoring requirements for 3 or more nominators...--Godot13 (talk) 02:02, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hafspajen- I appreciate the sentiment, but this has absolutely nothing to do with the Wikicup. This is only about Featured Pictures. --Godot13 (talk) 02:03, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I hear what you say. As I said it will probably will not happen any more, but those who were invited they were invited - to work too. But it was great fun, Herald had the idea and I rather don't want to make those people sad that signed up. I almost never mind sharing my noms ... because .. well it is difficult to explain. It makes people engaged, involved. They start looking for pictures themselfs, they get engaged, interested. It is a great thing to watch them develop and understand things. It just - feels good. 02:10, 18 January 2015 (UTC)Hafspajen (talk)
 * Wow! A great deal of it!! Well, I have signed up for wikicup after reading Generally, the picture should have been created by you (either photographed, drawn, or created in some other way) or been given significant restoration work by you or been released under a free license because of your efforts. Merely uploading a file you have found elsewhere does not constitute "significantly working on" the image which I certainly fail. It was just a fun to nominate Van goh's paintings and now I think we have removed some kind of curse which Van gogh's noms suffer usually. - The Herald (here I am) 09:18, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, that's a thing too. It there were a series of rather creepy van Gogh noms lately. Probably the thought of a regular back-up nom was inspired from those incidents. Hafspajen (talk) 15:40, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Godot13,

Thank you for your kind message and proposal. I'm not sure I understand well what you mean, due to my poor english. What is the "Smithsonian box" full of ? Are you talking about french PoW in Germany ? Well... I had a grand-father who was kept during the battle of Verdun, and prisoner in Stuttgart, Germany. Anyway, I'm always interested in history, especially this of the WWI, all what you can tell me is interesting !--Jebulon (talk) 20:34, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Re: High denomination fake currency
Hello,

I saw you revert my edits. I can assure you that these notes are real. The US Government and the Fed is denying their existance because of secrecy. Please read the ref]. --Hans Barbosa (talk) 22:01, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Federal Reserve Bonds 1934
Godot, I have more proof that the Federal Reserve Bonds Series 1934 are real. here is a website of a first-hand account from a German lawyer who has fallen into possession of one of the putative bonds. You might want to check the website. I assure you the bonds are real. --Hans Barbosa (talk) 23:20, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Conspiracy theory websites are not reliable sources... especially ones which are trying to sell the bills they are saying are real. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:23, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Smithsonian website
Wehwalt & RHM22 – Per the Chair of the Numismatics Division, any images of coins on the Smithsonian website may be publically used. This comes with a request to credit the NNC when the images are used outside Wikipedia. If I may be so bold as to suggest a possible format (consistent with some of the coin images I have already uploaded):


 * source=National Numismatic Collection, National Museum of American History
 * author=United States Mint (or applicable agency)
 * permission=Use of this image should give credit to the National Numismatic Collection, National Museum of American History.

For full disclosure- there have been some images taken by non-employees of the Smithsonian. However, these photographers have uniformly released the images to the Smithsonian, to be used in any manner the institution deems appropriate. Without a full inventory of the internal database system (not going to happen), identifying specific photographers is not possible. If, however, I am able to cobble together some of the names, I will try to add them to the image template for credit. Separately, the website contains reduced-size files. I am working on trying to acquire some the raw TIF files, where possible.--Godot13 (talk) 23:46, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Stellaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Stellaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Stellaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:49, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * LOL! Nice.--Godot13 (talk) 23:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * This is great news! Thank you for your efforts in tracking down the answer, Godot. I'm currently working on a series of articles regarding some archaic Frenchmen and their archaic machines, but I've received some necessary source material and I will be starting work on 1804 dollar very soon. I scoured the Smithsonian website, and it seems that they have all three types of 1804 dollar pictured there, so I'll be able to remove all of the likely copyvios from the article as it stands and replace them with the quality Smithsonian material.
 * By the way, whenever I see that scene in Streetcar, I think of this.-RHM22 (talk) 00:18, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree, it's really good news. Those images of the Panama Pacific $50 pieces will be put to good use when I get around to writing it (after all, this is the centennial year). Thank you so much for your help.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:28, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * (Looking at our numismatics articles, it appears that the US has never had a $2 coin, but it has had $1, $3, $4, and $5 coins... wonder why) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:52, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't forget about the quarter eagle. Also, on an unrelated note, the Mint was apparently authorized by the Coinage Act of 1792 to strike the mill (1/1000th of a dollar), but it was of course never done because such a small denomination would not have been very practical. As far as I know, it's the only denomination authorized but never struck.-RHM22 (talk) 02:21, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I was thinking something closer to the Canadian toonie than $2.50. That Mil would be an interesting article to get an FA on... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:25, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Glad to be able to help out.--Godot13 (talk) 00:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi again. Sorry to be a bother, but I've just uploaded this image and the reverse photo as well, and I just want to make sure that everything looks good. It is a beautiful image which was needed for Flowing Hair dollar, an article that has suffered without a quality image for many years.-RHM22 (talk) 16:16, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * RHM22- Absolutely no bother at all. I think it looks great and the image info seems fine.--Godot13 (talk) 19:23, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, great! Thank you again for all your trouble.-RHM22 (talk) 19:33, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Currency Question
The editor in question has a complicated theory about a conspiracy involving Freemasons, who started the two World Wars in order to corner the world's gold. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:41, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Robert McClenon- While fact can often be stranger than fiction, I'm left a bit unconvinced in this case (even though I did enjoy National Treasure). If the Freemasons were actually able to pull something like that off, I'd like to think they would have gotten better artists to design and execute the "currency" part of the plan...--Godot13 (talk) 00:57, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi Andrew,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Israel-2013-Tel Aviv 01-Reading Power Station.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on February 15, 2015. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2015-02-15. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:59, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Crisco-Looks good!--Godot13 (talk) 00:29, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

2014 Year In Review Awards

 * TomStar81- Many thanks!--Godot13 (talk) 18:37, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

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Sun!

 * Thanks Bananasoldier !--Godot13 (talk) 18:54, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Mucha banknote
Haven't had time to check this out, but the Mucha image has ©ABNC in tiny letters- the Bank of England only recently started putting © on their notes. Wonder when this practice started? (not saying the Mucha note's in copyright! ) Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 10:59, 30 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Klimt - Damenbildnis.jpg


 * Interesting – To me, she looks almost Klimptisch. Sca (talk) 14:14, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Just found (whilst eating my lunch) that it's from a poster by Mucha shown here. The Bank of England copyright symbol appears to be a result of the activities of J. S. G. Boggs. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 14:22, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I have some of Boggs' currency work. Given there is a current discussion about (not) deleting a counterfeit note because it is in essence valid under PD-USGov (not my argument) in that no significant changes were made to the government's original design, I may upload a few Boggs pieces down the road. Some of the ABNCo images (not appearing on currency) have copyright symbols. I only use them (engraved portraits) if I know who the engraver/artist was, and their date of death satisfies the requirements.--Godot13 (talk) 18:17, 30 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Good find on the Slavia poster!-Godot13 (talk) 18:18, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

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Counterfeiting
When I was a kid, there was a book at our local library - I think from the 1920s - on Counterfeiting that included fantasy notes created with the help of the treasury - good quality note and a counterfeit of it. It's a marvellous book. I really wish I could find it again.

It had discussions of the women who went through burnt or destroyed notes to try and see if any money could be recovered, it discussed the then-present security features, like all the pantograph scrollwork, and it actually had some impressive fantasy notes, which I believe may have been made by the treasury. Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:12, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Adam- I'm not sure of the specific book, but I know some of the images to which you refer. There are all kinds of designs that never made it to a formal issue. Some died in sketches, some in mockup, and others had die proofs made. Most of those were kept by the BEP (not part of their archive donated to the Smithsonian). There are also great B&W images out there of the female BEP employees inspecting new sheets, in some cases cutting up sheets with giant scissors...--Godot13 (talk) 20:01, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Adam Cuerden: Sorry to butt in here, but I believe that I have this book. I think my copy is from the 1940s or so. I have hundreds of numismatic books and magazines in storage, and I'm quite certain that the book you mention is among them. I'll go take a look through my books in storage and I'll let you know if I find it.-RHM22 (talk) 23:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:40, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Japanese government-issued Oceanian Pound
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POTD notification
Hi Andrew,

Just to let you know, the Featured Picture File:Israel-2013-Jerusalem-Temple Mount-Dome of the Rock-Detail 01.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 6, 2015. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2015-03-06. Thank you for all of your contributions! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:17, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks good Crisco! Thanks for all the work you put into POTD.--Godot13 (talk) 06:27, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

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Jay Gould
As I'm sure has happened to you before, looking at the image after waking up found a few more areas on his coat and the background that could be improved, so I did. Don't think they're they're controversial, but think it's better to tell the preexistent voters it's changed, just in case they dislike it. Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:13, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Fifty dollar bill
Hi, Godot. I've used one of your images, File:US-$50-GC-1928-Fr-2404.jpg, in the Ulysses S. Grant article, and some questions about it were raised in the featured article candidacy that I'm not really qualified to answer. Would you mind weighing in? Thanks, --Coemgenus (talk) 14:57, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Coemgenus- I commented and went ahead and removed the CC4.0 as perhaps not necessary.--Godot13 (talk) 21:55, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * BTW- Thanks for asking...--Godot13 (talk) 21:56, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Coemgenus (talk) 22:05, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Featured picture
Hi Godot. These are a bit unusual, but what do you think about these two for featured pictures: file:1979 right-facing Susan B. Anthony design.jpeg and file:1979 left-facing Susan B. Anthony design.jpeg? They're proposed designs for the Susan B. Anthony dollar by Frank Gasparro, and they both seem large enough. In my opinion, they're rather attractive (probably more so than the approved design), and they're really interesting as an illustration of how coins are designed.-RHM22 (talk) 21:09, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi RHM22- As long as they are both placed (fairly prominently) in at least one article (Susan B. Anthony Dollar) and perhaps in the Gasparro article I think they have fairly significant EV. Some text should be put in the article to explain what they are (a few sentences at most) to put them in better context. Perhaps they can be presented horizontally with a single footer? And they should typically be in the article for at least one week before being proposed to FPC. In short, I think they could be successful.--Godot13 (talk) 00:21, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
 * This could be made to fit just underneath the infobox...--Godot13 (talk) 00:33, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the replies and suggestions! The multiple image template you've used there looks just fine. SBA dollar will be my next article, so I'll include it in there. I usually write coin articles with a background section (Mr. X said he wanted a dollar coin...) then a history section (Mr. Y designed it, making sure it was as ugly as humanly possible...). The history section usually starts right around where the infobox ends, so that's where the Gasparro drawings will go. As you've suggested, I see no reason why they couldn't also be included in the Gasparro article.-RHM22 (talk) 01:57, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
 * - If I can find the drawings at the NNC on my next trip, I will make some very high res scans... If you know of other coin drawings they have, let me know.--Godot13 (talk) 02:22, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you! That will be great. I can't think of anything at the moment, but I might notice something before your next trip. I believe Wehwalt might be using one of the Eisenhower dollar sketches for his article on the subject.-RHM22 (talk) 02:26, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
 * - Okay. Next trip will either be mid-March or Mid-April.--Godot13 (talk) 02:28, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

FP Bonuses
Hi there, just to let you know I've manually entered the FP bonuses. From what I can see, you didn't have any that qualified for the bonus in the first round - it requires an image to be present on five different language wikis (which can include EN). I think the most you had was three. One of Herald's FPs did qualify as that had seven, so I've added that. It does mean that both you and Herald will be in the same pot for the draw for round 2 so you're guaranteed not to be drawn into the same group. Miyagawa (talk) 00:30, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Miyagawa- I'm not sure I follow... The set of four notes (submissions 1-4) all appear on Japanese government-issued Oceanian Pound, which is on a total of 5 wikis (inclusive of EN). Submission #5 is on Deutsche Mark (53 wikis), and #6 is on East German mark (31 wikis). Featured pictures used in articles which exist on at least 5 Wikipedias, as of 31 December 2014, score 5 additional points. Similarly, FPs used in articles on at least 20 Wikipedias score 10 additional points and those used in articles on at least 50 Wikipedias score 15 additional points. Are you interpreting the rule to mean the image must be inserted into each foreign-language article? How will that work for articles, lists, and portals (since the wording regarding bonuses is generally the same).--Godot13 (talk) 03:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Godot, don't mind me - I'm being a complete dumbass. You're quite right, I'll go back and re-do the bonus points. I went with the individual images, but it's the article the image appears on. That's what I get for wrapping up the round late at night. :) Miyagawa (talk) 16:37, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep, you were due 45 bonus points - I've added those now. Sorry for this - at least I got mixed up in round 1 and not later on! Miyagawa (talk) 16:47, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Miyagawa- No worries, just glad this was all resolved early on. Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 17:05, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader owing most of his 622 points scored to a Featured Article on the 2001 film Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as had 500 points in 2014 at the end of round 1, and our very own judge,  led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.

In addition to Freikorp's work, some other important articles and pictures were improved during round one, here's a snapshot of a few of them:
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 * BTW, I hope the RL demands are of the good variety... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:01, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Crisco, not so great, but could always be worse...-Godot13 (talk) 01:11, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Ouch. Here, have some extra energy. Side effects may include bloating. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, looks delicious...--Godot13 (talk) 03:37, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 'Twas, 'twas indeed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:57, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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Apollo medallions
Thanks for adding these to the Apollo mission articles. I didn't know about this, but I think it would be an interesting fact to add to the Apollo program page that NASA apparently had all the insignias minted as medallions, and one was flown on each mission. Do you have a reliable source for this? How much do you know about their history? Also I have a few questions:
 * It looks like Rusty Schweickhart owns most (all?) of the ones which were flown? (Possibly except for Apollo 1, which would have gone to the estate of Ed White's widow.)
 * What about Apollo 13, and 15 through 17? If they carried them in the Command Module, the Apollo 13 one should have survived, but if they carried them in the LM, maybe they would have forgotten to retrieve it (though Lovell rescued some items like a hand controller, and the alternate plaque with Swigert's name on it which was supposed to have been left on the Moon.) JustinTime55 (talk) 13:50, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi JustinTime55- I'm educating myself as I go along with these. My plan is to write a list-article to highlight the medallions (from both Gemini and Apollo manned flights). The Apollo 13 medallions had a field to enter the landed date, so the flown medallions were melted and re-struck after their return. It only seems like Schweickart owned them all because he had a good collection that was sold virtually intact. There were between roughly 80-300 flown medallions per mission, but only available through the NASA Administrator's Astronaut office. I still have to place the Apollo 13, and 14-17 medallions. I'm putting the source material together.--Godot13 (talk) 14:20, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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Mosque interior

 * This is the one I mentioned. Diliff was kind enough to get rid of the lens flares (note to self: covering light sources when you're aiming elsewhere is a good habit to have). A rather unique design, but then the whole tradition is very syncretic (they've even Javanized the Islamic calendar). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:18, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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<small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">&mdash; <big style="color:#ffa439">Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 08:02, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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Coins of the Newfoundland dollar
Hi, Godot13:

I see that the article "Coins of the Newfoundland dollar" is undergoing a major edit. Checkwiki is generating a high-priority error #2 " ,   , or tag are the only standard formats" for this article.

Specifically, the article contains 65 instances of.

If not for the "In use" template, I would change them myself to remove the high-priority error, but....

Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 09:43, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Knife-in-the-drawer- I will not have access to a computer for a few hours. Please feel free to make the changes you describe above.

Thank you for touching base first...-Godot13 (talk) 10:02, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for letting me cut it. Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 10:23, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

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Featured picture candidates/One-Yen banknote (1873)
400th FP...
 * Nice. BTW, do you remember ORI (Oeang Republik Indonesia)? I'm in Bengkulu now, and I found one of the locally issued currencies in a museum. Will upload whatever poor image I got when I get home. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:51, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * On a related note: think the Japanese Roepiah are ready? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:54, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Crisco- For FP? It is still missing a single note to be complete. I will be at the Smithsonian in three weeks and will check to be certain I haven't overlooked it. Otherwise I'll find it elsewhere...--Godot13 (talk) 17:24, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Correction, there are actually three missing roepiah notes (two comprise a subset and were left out of the article table originally)...--Godot13 (talk) 19:43, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * And a blast blast blast. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:43, 20 April 2015 (UTC)



Time ...
...for a new currency FPC from the Freie Stadt Danzig (hometown of Günter Grass)? Sca (talk) 13:36, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Sca- Doing a bit of reorganization, have a few more (~6) to work up (sadly there are still some gaps). In early May I'm going back to the Smithsonian and will do a final check for some of the missing pieces. I'll go back to the articles I started downloading and review them, but the time is almost at hand...--Godot13 (talk) 05:35, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah. Well, I'd been thinking about Danzig in connection with Grass, in some ways my favorite author. TNX. Sca (talk) 12:22, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

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South Sumatran rupiah

 * Rather interesting, I think, though the designs weren't generally that complex.
 * My images were not as good as yours (admittedly I didn't get to take them out of the case). I mustn't have been in the zone. I don't think anything I took in Bengkulu is featureable... well, the Thomas Parr monument might be, but I'd have to digitally remove the shadow of the building behind me. I felt rather rushed, I guess. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:02, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Crisco 1492- I've had that feeling before (feeling rushed) and not really liking the quality of most of the pictures taken on a given day(s)... Interesting banknote, don't think I saw any of them at the Smithsonian...--Godot13 (talk) 18:25, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I think the vast majority were only circulated locally, as the actual government ORI didn't reach Sumatra on a significant scale. I think one of the sources we used for the Japanese issue discussed this a little. The PMR money (also in the Bengkulu Museum category on Commons) was much simpler, but also issued in a much smaller area. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:31, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

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Forint
Following my nose from a Béla Bartók DYK, I found there are some aesthetically interesting banknotes on German WP's Forint page. Sca (talk) 13:10, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Sca- Interesting, I will look into them in DC the week after next...--Godot13 (talk) 18:36, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2015 May newsletter
The second round one has all wrapped up, and round three has now begun! Congratulations to the 34 contestants who have made it through, but well done and thank you to all contestants who took part in our second round. Leading the way overall was in Group B with a total of 777 points for a variety of contributions including Good Articles on Corona Borealis and Microscopium - both of which received the maximum bonus. Special credit must be given to a number of high importance articles improved during the second round.
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Gasparro designs for Lincoln cent reverse
First round of coin designs are here. Help with the object featured in the last one would be appreciated...--Godot13 (talk) 06:22, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Took a look... shield looked familiar, but I couldn't remember where I'd seen something similar before. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:45, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Seal

 * I doubt this'll stick in the article, but check it out: I was lucky enough to find a 50+ year old book with this seal in glorious detail. Sadly, most of the images were grainy and halftoned (they're not all uploaded yet, though). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:27, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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 * That's the plan. If it sticks in the article, of course. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:50, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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Reverted edit
Is there a reason, why you reverted this edit? Maybe a mistake? Armbrust The Homunculus 12:55, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
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POTD notification
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 * Chris- The caption is quite a good summary.--Godot13 (talk) 01:23, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

TFL notification
Hi, Godot. I'm just posting to let you know that Silver certificate (United States) – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for July 20. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008  ( Talk ) 02:19, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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Featured picture candidates/Japanese invasion money (Malaya and Borneo) 1942–45

 * BTW: I have sent you a friend request on Facebook. Could you check it? Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 20:31, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Armbrust-Done.-Godot13 (talk) 02:36, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/My Man Jeeves
I've uploaded an alt here, more or less per your suggestion - the centring on "My Man Jeeves" and "P. G. Wodehouse" isn't as exact as you'd think (probably because the latter is inside of Jeeves' body, so has the alignment a little off true to look better in context but cropping reveals that a little more). I did my best to balance it by giving as much space as I could without adding spinal elements - it's cropped just a pixel or so right of the E in the spine's WODEHOUSE. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:46, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

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20 Joe
Tell me, was this discovery of the 20 Joe note by you? Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:31, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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DYK nomination of NASA space-flown Robbins medallions of the Apollo missions
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Here's one...
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DYK for Banknotes of Demarary and Essequibo
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DYK for NASA space-flown Robbins medallions of the Apollo missions
Thanks for your help with the project Victuallers (talk) 01:51, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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Gold 20-stater of Eucratides
Hi, You might be interested by these. ;) See Gold 20-stater of Eucratides. Would you nominate this as a set here? You know how to do that better than me. Regards, Yann (talk) 17:14, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Yann- As the front and back of the same object, I would join the images (front, left and back, right) and nominate as a single image. That seems to be the convention here. If you want help merging the two images into one, let me know.--Godot13 (talk) 02:04, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 * PS-The white background field is in serious need of a cleaning...--Godot13 (talk) 02:08, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, I am not sure which side is the front, and which side is the back: File:Monnaie de Bactriane, Eucratide I, 2 faces.jpg. Regards, Yann (talk) 19:14, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yann- Based on this, I would say the portrait head is the front, so the file you created looks accurate.--Godot13 (talk) 21:20, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Tunisian Arabic
Dear User,

Tunisian Arabic is nominated for GA Status. Please review this work and adjust it if it involves several deficiencies.

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Invitation to participate in an interview
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POTD for August 21

 * Just a heads up, the first series of fractional currency will be POTD on 21 August. The blurbs are available at Template:POTD/2015-08-21/1, Template:POTD/2015-08-21/2, Template:POTD/2015-08-21/3, and Template:POTD/2015-08-21/4 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:55, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
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Did you mean translate the text in the note? It's that formal nonsense they always put on money and written in "old", but I'll have a go. Belle (talk) 23:18, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Some numismatist can probably correct me, but I seem to remember notes and cheques and so on being called instruments so that's what I've called it there (Assignation sounded like we were going to meet it at a seedy motel) and I had to approximate some of the names of the official bodies (after I looked them up). I hope that's what you were after. Belle (talk) 23:39, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Belle- Much appreciated and you are correct about the term instrument.--Godot13 (talk) 20:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

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... for you to go underwater? Sca (talk) 17:21, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Sca- I would think so! Found in one meter of water. I wonder if the local sales of underwater metal detectors spiked?--Godot13 (talk) 23:53, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * According to BBC, that's metre of water. Rule Britannia. Sca (talk) 23:56, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Sca- You know, I actually paused when typing the word and briefly debated- before concluding the find was in the US...--Godot13 (talk) 00:00, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Er, you mean the U.S. [[Image:Flag of the United States.svg|20px]] That's us. Sca (talk) 00:06, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yup, that's the one!--Godot13 (talk) 00:21, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I once found a lot of coins in just over a metre of water. Unfortunately it was just after I dropped my purse in the pool. Belle (talk) 01:06, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Good grief,, I didn't realize you actually are a scuba diver 'til I glanced at your user page. Do you practice underwater photography? Sca (talk) 14:05, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Sca- Tried it once or twice, a long time ago. Required too much attention be diverted away from the dive itself so I wasn't keen on it. Might be different now though, but never really given it a fair try.--Godot13 (talk) 19:10, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Must be a lot easier nowadays w/digital tech. Sca (talk) 20:56, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Come to think of it, yes, it should be. When I tried it out I was using film...--Godot13 (talk) 21:13, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Papiermark
Thanks for your note. The truth is, I'm not particularly knowledgeable about the details of the Great Inflation and its famous (or infamous) currency issues – nor have I every understood the theoretical underpinning of the Rentenmark that ended it. But I'd be happy to copy-read the article when you're finished with it.

My favorite literary description of the period is Remarque's The Black Obelisk. Sca (talk) 15:39, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Currencies
Hi. Any chances of getting these Belgian Congo francs or these pengős in high resolution? I've contacted the Hungarian National Bank for pengős, but they didn't reply. Brandmeistertalk  19:35, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Brandmeister- Next trip to the Smithsonian I will see that they have for those two places. For the Belgian Congo, only that specific note, or anything similar of the period?--Godot13 (talk) 20:00, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Preferably this, but other Belgian Congo francs are also fine so would be interested in them too, as well as in 500 Swiss francs. I couldn't find decent resolutions in the internet for all those. Thanks in advance. Brandmeistertalk  09:38, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

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WikiCup Bonus Points
Hey Godot, I wanted to check before I did it, but would you be ok if I modified your username in the WikiCup table during the final round so as to include the bonus point scores from the FPs? I'm just trying to think of a way to get those numbers into the table and I think you mentioned something similar in an earlier round. Miyagawa (talk) 08:16, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Miyagawa- I'm cool with that. Not sure what you have in mind, but give it another shot. If it won't automatically tally by bot, I've been faithfully entering each FP bonus here immediately after I submit it. Perhaps there is a way to have a link directly after my username (like "FP BP") that links to the user page table. Whatever works for you/the Cup...--Godot13 (talk) 08:28, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Perfect, I'll stick a link to that in. Miyagawa (talk) 08:39, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Godot, any chance of adding a total row to the bonus points table? It'll just make it easier for people to read. Miyagawa (talk) 19:38, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Miyagawa - Done.-Godot13 (talk) 20:11, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 September newsletter
The finals for the 2015 Wikicup has now begun! Congrats to the 8 contestants who have survived to the finals, and well done and thanks to everyone who took part in rounds 3 and 4.

In round 3, we had a three-way tie for qualification among the wildcard contestants, so we had 34 competitors. The leader was by far in Group B, who earned 1496 points. Although 913 of these points were bonus points, he submitted 15 articles in the DYK category. Second place overall was at 864 points, who although submitted just 2 FAs for 400 points, earned double that amount for those articles in bonus points. Everyone who moved forward to Round 4 earned at least 100 points.

The scores required to move onto the semifinals were impressive; the lowest scorer to move onto the finals was 407, making this year's Wikicup as competitive as it's always been. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:


 * , who is competing in his sixth consecutive Wikicup final, again finished the round in first place, with an impressive 1666 points in Pool B. Casliber writes about the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy.  A large bulk of his points this round were bonus points.
 * , second place both in Pool B and overall, earned the bulk of his points with FPs, mostly depicting currency.
 * , first in Pool A, came in third. His specialty is natural science articles; in Round 4, he mostly submitted articles about insects and botany.  Five out of the six of the GAs he submitted were level-4 vital articles.
 * , second in Pool A, took fourth overall. He tends to focus on articles about cricket and military history, specifically the 1640s First English Civil War.
 * , from Pool A, was our highest-scoring wildcard. West Virginia tends to focus on articles about the history of (what for it!) the U.S. state of West Virginia.
 * , from Pool A, likes to work on articles about British geography and places. Most of his points this round were earned from two impressive accomplishments: a GT about Scheduled monuments in Somerset and a FT about English Heritage properties in Somerset.
 * , from Pool B, came in seventh overall. RO earned the majority of her points from GARs and PRs, many of which were earned in the final hours of the round.
 * , also from Pool B, who was competing with RO for the final two spots in the final hours, takes the race for most GARs and PRs—48.

The intense competition between RO and Calvin999 will continue into the finals. They're both eligible for the Newcomers Trophy, given for the first time in the Wikicup; whoever makes the most points will win it.

Good luck to the finalists; the judges are sure that the competition will be fierce!

, and  11:48, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Flickr - …trialsanderrors - Madam Ada Castello and Jupiter, poster for Ringling Brothers, ca. 1899.jpg
Just to note, I did some additional cleaning on the image - removed some scratches, tears, - and most surprisingly - some stamps and notes at the bottom edge, etc, etc, and uploaded over. Obviously, if the image changes, I need to notify all voters of this fact. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:24, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

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I don't think we can reasonably consider this as even a competent levels adjustment. We cannot promote this as the best of our work. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:48, 8 September 2015 (UTC)∅

Diving
Here's someone's take on the allure. Sca (talk) 14:00, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Tempting sometimes...--Godot13 (talk) 14:05, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Is this your idea of nirvana? Sca (talk) 14:42, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey! Sca, you've already offered me that, I didn't realise I was going to have to share it. Godot13's going to be in a Venezuelan prison anyway after I make off with the forged banknotes and the printer. Belle (talk) 15:01, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Take your complaints to Capt. Nemo. Sca (talk) 15:35, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

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If you have something to say to me, come to my talk page, and say it.
"I have a proposal for next year's rules: any active participant in the Cup who proposes changes in the scoring rules (or qualifications for participation) prior to October 31 will be immediately disqualified. Too harsh?" - Your recent comment on Josh's talk page. I don't care if this is meant tongue-in-cheek or not. I think it's snarky and unnecessary. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b> 20:03, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>- If I have something to say to you, I most certainly will. With all due respect, while you fall within the scope of my comment, it was most certainly not directed at you. It was left on Josh's page because he was the sole judge last year, when I was the focal point of the final round uproar by other active or recently eliminated wikicup participants. It is very unpleasant participating in an event while an active discussion goes on over your motivation, strategy, and (roughly) fairness of play. Snarky? Not given personal experience. Unnecessary? Perhaps. The change of scoring rules following last year's competition made sure that mastery of the FA/FAC would be a prerequisite to winning (in my opinion). I hear your frustration (I feel it too). Personally, I would hope we could all be above complaining about the rules until it is over. Anyway, I'm sorry if my comment offended, it was probably more a reflection of my own experience.--Godot13 (talk) 20:47, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * If I had to pick one person in this discussion who had been unnecessarily aggressive, it wouldn't be Godot. "If you have something to say to me, come ... and say it"? That's fightin' talk. Josh Milburn (talk) 21:17, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't see how I can fall into the scope of the comment and it not be directed at me, to be honest. I never even mentioned you initially. Others did. You may have meant it tongue in cheek, but I most certainly didn't interpret it that way and I still don't. It's not good humour at all. I just see it as you mocking me and poking fun at me. I don't think it was necessary for you to say that, whether you meant it in jest or not, and it was ill-placed and not the right time or place. We've never spoken before, so it's not as though I know your character and humour. Someone said today that you didn't like how people called you out for your submissions last year, so I'm surprised you would kind of do the same thing to me when all I did was air my concerns over the scoring system, not you personally, or anyone else. I used a few editors as an example of what I was getting at. Josh, I know you have good intentions, but I don't think what I said was aggressive, everything comes down to interpretation. We all read text on screen differently. You can't say I don't have a point though, it was about me. Thanks for acknowledging, Godot. Let's forget and move on. We don't need another long thread. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>  21:39, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't patronise me. And if, as you accept, "everything comes down to interpretation" and "[w]e all read text on screen differently", perhaps it'd be advisable not to moan at Godot for a personal message to me and for me on my talk page? Just a thought... Josh Milburn (talk) 21:56, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * If you take a moment to look at the thread, you will see at least four editors who made suggestions regarding how to change the scoring and/or who should be able to compete. Mocking you? Poking fun? You are right, we don’t know each other and I generally don’t poke fun at people I don’t know. You can't say I don't have a point though, it was about me. I wasn’t talking to you, and I was referring to a number of editors. If I’m going to refer specifically to you I’ll have the courtesy to at least link you in to the comment. While I’d like to make a few comments that come from a place of understanding your frustration, I’m not going to go there.--Godot13 (talk) 22:18, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I wasn't trying to patronise you Josh, nor would I. I don't believe I was rude to you just now? And Godot has said that I was one of the editors he was referring to, so it doesn't really matter if it's a comment on your talk or not. I'm done with this situation now. What started as a civil message on the Cup talk by me has been blown up by everyone else getting the wrong end of the stick. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>  08:58, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Portuguese real
I hope you've forgiven me for the doublecross, but if not, to make it up to you I was going to add a translation for your Portuguese banknote, but I'm not sure on the mechanics: the note says the bearer is to be paid "this year" or "within one year" (literally "at/to/in one year"); it could be just the flowery language they love putting on notes, but I thought I'd check in case they did actually have a year to find the gold. Belle (talk) 22:12, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Belle- All is forgiven (insert smiley face, which I can't seem to find). Knowing how these early notes were generally issued (as either interest bearing or promissory notes), I would think the best translation would be "in one year". You seem to be quite multi-lingual. Many thanks for the help! --Godot13 (talk) 22:35, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Re-reading it, I think the "de hoje" ("of today") belongs to the payment details and not the note; they aren't big on punctuation on banknotes, so it isn't easy, especially when you are dealing with language from the 18th century, but it's a better translation than what was there before anyway ;). If you can decode the letters in the handwritten month I can translate that too, but it doesn't seem to fit anything to my eyes. (My mother, sister and I all have different first languages, so being monolingual was never going to happen). Belle (talk) 23:00, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

I wonder if you can help me now; I just translated Jaroslava Muchová and following the Czech article it states: "Alphonse Mucha pictured her on the reverse of the first Czechoslovak ten koruna coin from 1920, and later on the 1931 50 koruna banknote."; that doesn't tie in very well with the articles on Coins of the Czechoslovak koruna (1919) and Banknotes of the Czechoslovak koruna (1919). I have to own up that I added "coin" to "ten koruna" because the second mention was of the banknote, but even if it was a banknote there is no sign of it. Can you dig around in your money archives and see if you can confirm/correct/deny any/all of that sentence. I'll put in a good word with the Venezuelans if you do. Mwah. Belle (talk) 11:43, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for finding that; I think you got the wrong image though: she would have been 20 in 1929, so I think she is the girl with the headscarf on the front. Is there some way of working out the correct coordinates for the clipping or is it trail and error? Belle (talk) 22:57, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Belle-No problem. You mean the reverse? The center portrait or side portrait? (To me the side portrait on the front and back look like they could be the same person). I'm happy to redo the css crop (which is trial and error).--Godot13 (talk) 00:01, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I see you got it. I tweaked it a little so it is in-line with the lead image, and changed the korun to koruna (effects of jetlag...)--Godot13 (talk) 00:21, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Is that the reverse? It's much prettier; it should be the front! I redid the crop through trial and error (quite a good guess first time though; yay, me!), but your redo is better, we are unlucky with the punch holes' positioning though :(. Belle (talk) 00:24, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it is a difficult note to find in issued form. Even the reference book uses the specimen as an image.--Godot13 (talk) 00:32, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I guessed as much; at least they didn't draw a moustache and glasses on her! Get some sleep/stay awake/whichever you are supposed to do (though 12 hours from Venezuela? They don't get the best planes chartered for the prisoner repatriation flights, do they?) Belle (talk) 00:49, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

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The "Turban Head" coin series
Hi there, and thank you for your many feature-worthy image contributions! I gather that you're a numismatist. (I'm not, but I respect what you do.) I wondered if you knew why the obverse of this coin is called "Turban Head" when the pictured Liberty is clearly wearing a Phrygian cap? There didn't seem to be an explanation at the Wikipedia article about that series of U.S. $5 coins. Thanks again, GrammarFascist   contribs talk 16:44, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi GrammarFascist - If you look  at the design section of the Turban head eagle article here it highlights some debate about whether the design incorporates a Phrygian cap or something similar (but different).--Godot13 (talk) 18:15, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the pointer to that interesting article. I was not familiar with mob caps and the notion that that's what was depicted is intriguing, though it seems to me that a fashionable hat would have been an odd choice for a coin design. What still puzzles me is how the design came to be referred to as "Turban Head"; while the headgear depicted may or may not be a pileus or Phrygian cap, it doesn't look at all like a turban. Was "turban" perhaps used to mean "foreign-looking headwear I don't understand" rather than referring to actual turbans? Sorry to keep pestering you, but I find the name used to refer to the design really confounding. — GrammarFascist  contribs talk 18:42, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not convinced that the mob hat as an explanation for the design is quite accurate. I'll do a little digging and see what I can find on the origin of the term Turban Head...-Godot13 (talk) 18:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I appreciate you researching this further! { — GrammarFascist  contribs talk 22:10, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/United States gold coins (VII) – $20 Double Eagle (1849–1933)

 * BTW, is there any reason why the 1933 double eagle wasn't part of the set? Armbrust The Homunculus 21:37, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It would have broken the momentum - it requires a D&R with two other images (a separate front and back image). The basic design type is represented in the set, but the 1933 has enough EV for it's own nom. I was going to get to it before the end of the month. BTW- apologies in advance for the next set to be closed...--Godot13 (talk) 21:44, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, that one. Am I correct that the creator of the banknotes is in the caption for each one? Armbrust The Homunculus 21:54, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Armbrust - Yes, it is. But if it is easier, it would still be entirely correct to say "Issued by the Confederate States of America" generically for each one...--Godot13 (talk) 22:18, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/A complete typeset of the Confederate States dollar banknotes (1861–1864)

 * PS.: Any idea what shall happen with File:Confederate 5 and 100 Dollars.jpg? Armbrust The Homunculus 19:48, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Armbrust- Next month (when the cup is over) I'll put it up for delisting. It's a strange FP in that it doesn't cover a single note, but it doesn't cover any kind of paired set either...--Godot13 (talk) 23:04, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

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1500x1500 minimum ?
Can you please point me to the link on Wikipedia policy where the 1500x1500 minimum is stated ?

Thank you,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:14, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

It's in FP criteria number two: Featured picture criteria. RO (talk) 20:26, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * "Note that vector graphics in SVG format can have a nominal size much smaller than this, as by their nature they can be infinitely scaled without loss of quality." Great, thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * So per WP:WIAFP on SVG files, quoted, above, this does not apply, correct? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:29, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Try looking at this in a "show preview" = Digestive system diagram en.svg . Because it is an SVG file, the quality still looks quite high quality to me, even blown up to that big an image. Can you explain your thoughts on SVG to me and why we should not follow WP:WIAFP when it says "Note that vector graphics in SVG format can have a nominal size much smaller than this, as by their nature they can be infinitely scaled without loss of quality." ??? Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:35, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes,, I had another look at the standards as described at the Featured Picture criteria page. The criteria state, specifically for SVG files as an exception: "Note that vector graphics in SVG format can have a nominal size much smaller than this, as by their nature they can be infinitely scaled without loss of quality." This is not a JPG file. It is an SVG file. Because it is in SVG format, it looks the same high quality when blown up to very very large sizes. Please re-evaluate your position at the FPC page. Please note the specific part where the criteria state: "SVG format ... they can be infinitely scaled without loss of quality." Please note the word INFINITELY. Surely INFINITE is a big enough number??? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:44, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Because, as the nomination was initially presented there was no option to view it at any resolution that even approached 1500x1500. I am not attacking you or your nomination, simply pointing out a concern (so please, don't be so defensive). Granted, I didn't go beyond what was visibly available as options, but if I can't see something at a fairly high (at least 1500x1500) resolution, barring an historical exception, I'm generally not going to support it. There is no reason an SVG can not be presented in that resolution, or at least have a preview size available...--Godot13 (talk) 20:49, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Please evaluate your position. It is an SVG file. This was in the featured picture criteria, already, BEFORE your original comment. The SVG file can be scaled INFINITELY. Surely that is a sufficient size, the size of INFINITE. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:54, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Cirt- Now you are just being rude (your post below) in addition to condescending (above).--Godot13 (talk) 20:59, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * , I am NOT trying to be rude or condescending, PLEASE my apologies. Did you not see, before, in my earlier post to your talk page, I asked you to, please, look at the exact same code, at this in a "show preview" = Digestive system diagram en.svg ??? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:04, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

I can understand reverting my new posts, but why won't you let me self strike my own comments, and apologize to you? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:46, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Example of SVG file


Here is an example of the same exact SVG file.

Per WP:WIAFP: By their nature they can be infinitely scaled without loss of quality.

I hope this example helps you to understand, and to Support.

Thank you,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:56, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Please understand, Godot13
Please understand, Godot13:

I am NOT trying to be rude or condescending.

I am feeling frustrated right now because I have tried my best to explain how SVG files work to you and that they can be scaled to INFINITE size and that this was already in the criteria at Featured Picture Criteria on Wikipedia.

This was not my statement, this was per WP:WIAFP.

And I felt that you were not hearing me out, that you were not listening to me, and you were not reading my posts.

I was honestly trying to explain this to you and help you to understand.

I am truly sorry if you felt I was rude and condescending.

But please also understand that your actions appear to be willfully ignoring what I'm saying, and that makes me feel ignored and unheard and frustrated.

Okay?

Thank you,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:07, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Cirt- I hear you. It's hard to respond to 5 talk page messages left in the space of 30 minutes. There is nothing you explained that I did not understand. I didn't even oppose your nomination, I just brought up a point: at least some preview should be available of what the image looks like in a high (greater than 1500x1500) rendering so people can clearly see the details of the SVG. That may have come out here on the talk page. Separately, I have a serious issue with what's going on in the nomination since one supporter has re-worded the FP criteria/rules without any kind of discussion or consensus. But given my talk-page back and forth, I do not want someone to question my motives or called me involved. So it will need to be sorted out...--Godot13 (talk) 21:18, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Update - three (3) attempts at good faith gestures

 * Update: I tried to make an attempt at good faith, by: (1) striking my own comments with strike-through that were seen by as rude or condescending, (2) reducing the size of an image on the page that I placed there as an example of SVG Vector Graphic sizing, and (3) offering a way to move forward with WP:Wikilove and a Cup of tea to . Unfortunately, all of these attempts at good faith on my part were summarily reverted, by, at DIFF. I'm really trying here, by attempting to make three (3) good faith gestures, but, unfortunately, they're not being received at this time by the user. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:50, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

I truly am sorry and do wish to move forward
Godot,

I truly am sorry and do wish to move forward.

I hope we can try to do that, together.

Regardless of the past or the future for our constructive editing together &mdash; I would like to say that I am indeed most thankful and impressed by your five (5) Featured List contributions and your six-hundred-and-forty-five (645) Featured Picture contributions to Wikipedia.

Thank you, very much, for your amazing and impressive Featured-content contributions to Wikipedia.

Once again, my apologies,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:16, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

FYI
I just created the following FP categories: Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 15:36, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Featured pictures/Currency/American currency
 * Featured pictures/Currency/Asian currency
 * Featured pictures/Currency/European currency
 * Featured pictures/Currency/USA banknotes
 * Featured pictures/Currency/USA coins
 * Featured pictures/Currency/Other
 * Armbrust-Very nice re-organization!--Godot13 (talk) 16:51, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It was a much-needed split. There were already 501 images in it, from which 260 were USA banknotes. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:06, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Armbrust- At some point we may need to address some technical (numismatic) issues with the new categories. The only one that comes to mind now is that I probably wouldn't classify Confederate notes (CSA) as United States notes (USA). Because the USA was issuing its own notes during that period and didn't recognize the CSA notes as legal tender (not to mention it doesn't really fit with our own definition of a United States note). Perhaps they should go under American? One or two other thoughts, but minor. Thanks for creating the main currency category and breaking out the sub-categories!--Godot13 (talk) 21:14, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's a good point. Is there a reason why Confederate States dollar is in ? Armbrust The Homunculus 05:32, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Armbrust- Probably for the same reason that all of the colonial currencies (much of them issued pre-1776) are in the same category. Those would need to straddle two categories because some (depending of the period of issue) fit both. Technically, CSA banknotes would probably need to be in . Colonial currencies should be together but you can't really call a new subcategory Currencies of Colonial America because that would include British and French issues for Canada and other former North American territories. I'll do some homework and get back to you...--Godot13 (talk) 06:07, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Um...
Inbox still empty. Sca (talk) 17:39, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Second just sent...-Godot13 (talk) 17:50, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfind. Sent U a msg. Sca (talk) 18:39, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Emailed. Sca (talk) 22:21, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Nothing. Is there a two-day email service?--Godot13 (talk) 22:41, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I have no explanation. Have we encountered this before?
 * It wasn't ret'd to me as undeliverable. Ck yr spam box.... Sca (talk) 23:44, 14 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Was gogot a typo? No spam-Godot13 (talk) 23:53, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Doh! Resent. Sca (talk) 00:04, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Strange...
Armbrust (or anyone else)-

As of a few minutes ago I could no longer view images or text on Featured picture candidates page. Is it just my computer/account?--Godot13 (talk) 18:10, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The database was locked for some reason. I couldn't even edit for a few minutes. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:16, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, good to know. Thanks!--Godot13 (talk) 18:20, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Danzig Gulden
At last! I was beginning to wonder if you ever were going to nominate these. TNX. Sca (talk) 22:11, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Haha! Since we first discussed it, I've periodically done some internet searching (admittedly, not comprehensive) for background info on the Bank of Danzig. The information has not been as prominent as I would have thought, but not everything can be found on the internet... I plan to add more information to the article as I find more, but for now I added a touch to the history section, and tried to roughly frame the gulden under banknotes. More to come though...--Godot13 (talk) 22:39, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The history section ends with the introduction of the gulden in 1923 and then begins again with the Nazi occupation in 1939. I'm sure nothing of interest happened in the intervening years...--Godot13 (talk) 22:43, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Background: You do need to understand that the vast majority of ethnic-German Danzigers welcomed the Nazi "occupation," as they wanted first and foremost for their city to be returned to Germany.
 * Hitler used Danzig – quite arguably a legitimate German grievance – as a cynical pretext for attacking Poland. That attack was part of his totally illegitimate, indeed psychopathic and criminal, plan to subjugate Poland and even the Soviet Union, and convert these vast areas into a hugely expanded "Greater German Reich."
 * With the collapse of Nazi Germany in 1945, and the huge border changes demanded by Stalin at Yalta and Potsdam, Danzig became Gdańsk. One of the interesting things about the Polish city of Gdańsk is the painstaking restoration of old Danzig monuments and buildings undertaken by the Poles over the decades – even though these structures were originally built by Germans.
 * Only recently, in post-Communist Poland, have the Poles restored some of the old German inscriptions on buildings, such as the Golden Gate. When I visited the city nearly 20 years ago, no overt traces of its Germanness were to be seen.
 * Gdańsk is a fascinating place ... if you're a history freak. Sca (talk) 00:50, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * PS: Be cautious in using WP as a source re Danzig/Gdańsk. For years certain eds have used these articles as a platform to perpetuate an outmoded postwar (i.e., Communist) POV regarding the German territories awarded to Poland under border changes promulgated at the Potsdam Conference, but not accepted de jure by the West until decades later, when there was no longer any point in denying de facto reality. Sca (talk) 00:59, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * ...I rarely use WP as a direct source for anything I do because of exactly the issue you raised (well, pov in general), though it is a good place to start the hunt for other sources or to get a general overview in some topics... Good background info above some I knew, some I didn't. Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 01:10, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

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Yorktown
Of interest? Sca (talk) 16:26, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Came across this while adding images to the Augustin Dupré article. I wanted to see if I could find a higher res example...--Godot13 (talk) 17:14, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I came across it in re to the Siege of Yorktown, in today's OTD. Sca (talk) 01:56, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Some

 * Some to start with.
 * https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/the-sacrament-of-ordination-christ-presenting-the-keys-to-saint-peter/GAFmbp1CWRCVZg
 * https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/a-boyar-wedding-feast/igHPP_wsY9gKZQ
 * https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/young-ladies/MAGun3RfRGPEQQ?projectId=art-project
 * https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/bildnis-martin-luthers-bildnis-katharina-luthers/GQExKqHnEdsgfg?projectId=art-project
 * https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/flower-basket-inspired-by-noh-play/_QFwRI4AnOsMOA?projectId=art-project
 * https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/in-without-knocking/NQHTrYs_Yx5Jaw?projectId=art-project
 * https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/rebecca-meets-isaac-by-the-way/4gHrp0RCpM8ybA?projectId=art-project
 * https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/smoke-of-a-45/iQGNXaVA5Dbyzg?projectId=art-project
 * https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/the-royal-mail-coach-on-the-road/mwGmSS_-zpyPzg?projectId=art-project
 * https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/the-chalon-family-in-london/TwHsMPGE6mH95Q
 * These look a bit poor quality, or?
 * https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Peter_Paul_Rubens_-_Venus_and_Adonis_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg&action=history
 * Here is the google file.

https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/venus-and-adonis/HgG6SJR8DpmHZw
 * Is this the right quality, or?

File:Apple Harvest by Camille Pissarro.jpg


 * Here is the google file.

https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/apple-harvest/GgEtbnL6cNOmjg


 * There you go. Hafspajen (talk) 16:11, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
 * This could be an other article.

http://www.britannica.com/biography/Peter-Paul-Rubens/images-videos/Venus-and-Adonis-oil-on-canvas-by-Peter-Paul-Rubens/146690 http://www.wga.hu/html_m/r/rubens/23mythol/42mythol.html http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/37.162 http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/437535 http://global.britannica.com/topic/Venus-and-Adonis-painting-by-Rubens


 * There are a bit careless about the money... maybe they keep it in a bank? Hafspajen (talk) 16:14, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


 * I see your definition of 2-3... ;-) I'll start in tonight (North American time) and see how it goes. As soon as I have one done, I'll start a gallery and ping you from the gallery.--Godot13 (talk) 16:25, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hafs- Can you give me one good example (link) of how you like to see the information/description part of a commons image file, unless the format is standard for all.--Godot13 (talk) 18:42, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Can't really spot any standard, but this looks good, no? Except the description  should be in English, too. File:Comte d'Angiviller.jpg. Hafspajen (talk) 15:36, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup
What a pity, it's too late to nominate any more featured picture candidates for the process to be completed before the conclusion of the WikiCup! Never mind, you can still earn yourself four points by doing a good article review. How about Parsnip, Ruddy shelduck or Purple heron for example? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:09, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow! Really? Okay... you certainly are cheeky. I guess having a GAN sit for more than 48 hours without a review is not acceptable to you... Careful that quantity doesn't trump quality.--Godot13 (talk) 12:23, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Siege of Khartoum currency
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 * How are your skills at NGA uploads? Hafspajen (talk) 13:59, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll have them uploaded soon...--Godot13 (talk) 18:57, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Where did you put them? this I could write an article about. Shall we co-nom? Hafspajen (talk) 15:29, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hafs-All uploads will be here. Your selections are visually stunning. I will be happy to co-nom on some future noms where the artwork has more personal meaning for me. I'm working on an idea for an art article that I will share with you when I have it more defined. In the meantime, keep the heavy requests coming...--Godot13 (talk) 15:50, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * ? you mean... you only upload them? Hafspajen (talk) 15:52, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hafs- No, come to think of it, I'd be happy to co-nom with you...--Godot13 (talk) 15:55, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * .' OK. The only trouble with new uploads that they often have no articles. If I start one, will you check for grammar and stuff? That's my weak side. Hafspajen (talk) 16:07, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll do some copyediting. Just ping me when whatever you've done is ready for a look.-Godot13 (talk) 16:09, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Any preferences? I have good sources on the nymph and Queen Zenobia. (that's not ready yet) The User:Hafspajen/A Boyar Wedding Feast is rather good and unusual too, they have good refs on the google file for it. Chose one. Hafspajen (talk) 16:12, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd vote for Boyar, the image is great, lively, and colorful...--Godot13 (talk) 16:18, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * OK. Hafspajen (talk) 16:34, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You are welcome to enlarge complete or anything. Draft here. User:Hafspajen/A Boyar Wedding Feast. Hafspajen (talk) 17:45, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hafs- I've found a bunch of early sources with some decent info (tricky since the artist's name is spelled three different ways and the name of the painting has slightly varied over time). I'll format and put then in refs, and start adding some text over the weekend.--Godot13 (talk) 01:53, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * OK: We'll kick those Russians in shape somehow. That article on Makowski has a terrible text... Hafspajen (talk) 13:59, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Just asked for article to be mainspaced, when ready, it's ready for a co-nom. Hafspajen (talk) 15:17, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Siege of Tsingtao, 10 Japanese sen (1914)
PS.: Let me be the first to congratulate for retaining the WikiCup. Armbrust The Homunculus 23:48, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Armbrust- As it is now after midnight UTC and submissions are closed, many thanks for your comment!--Godot13 (talk) 00:02, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

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Curious
Hi, Godot13 - you aroused my curiosity at the FPC when you added "....the halo that appears at full size when the image is scrolled across the screen." This is a first for me so I'd like to learn more about it. Would you be so kind as to be a bit more specific about how you arrived at the halo effect? Are you referring to the thumbnail or other size? I'd like to see if I can reproduce it and if so, fix the issue if possible. Thanks in advance. <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme 📞📧 15:05, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Atsme- Sure, it's kind of a first for me too, I'll explain. Usually when there is a "halo" effect it is plainly visible in the image, along a border or edge where some adjustments have been made (likely too strongly). It's a bit of a glow that tends to impair the technical merit of the finished image. With your image (again, I think it's great), there wasn't really a halo until, at full size, I started scrolling up/down and left/right. The trailing edge gives off a fairly strong glow, but only when "in motion". I agree with Chris' comment about the over-sharpening but I also recognize it's a difficult image from the getgo... Let me know if this helps. Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 18:13, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Interesting, for sure. I've been unable to reproduce it (Macbook Pro, 17" laptop, Macbook Pro, 15" Retina display laptop).  It actually sounds like a really cool effect for video.  😊 I also wonder if it could be the result of the bokeh effect, or if it only did it on the .jpg image and not the .tif?  .  It could also be an anomaly of digitization which lends itself to all kinds of weird happenings including how an image responds to the type of monitor used for viewing.  Well, all I can say is thank you again for a great explanation even though I'm unable to provide a definitive answer in return.  I'll keep looking and if the answer jumps out at me, I'll let you know.  Happy editing!  <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme 📞📧 20:43, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

A Boyar Wedding Feast
A Boyar Wedding Feast. Ok, nom now. Don't break my hart by denying me. Hafspajen (talk) 16:41, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Will you please sign, check last check and add? Hafspajen (talk) 17:01, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Hm, looks like you are not around, so I add it now, clock is ticking. You go and sing later. Hafspajen (talk) 17:22, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, next, three more noms. I am getting a bit lazy, so I have chosen some with the articles already started.  Upload, article is ready. The other, needs upload too. This has an article on simple Wiki, just needs to be imported, with the right kind of attribution. This might be simply added, with some little additions. User:Hafspajen/Japanese Footbridge.  It has an article too, but needs some more to expand. An article, same title, same artist but different painting....??  No problem, plenty of sources. Hafspajen (talk) 16:01, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2015: The results
WikiCup 2015 is now in the books! Congrats to our finalists and winners, and to everyone who took part in this year's competition.

This year's results were an exact replica of last year's competition. For the second year in a row, the 2015 WikiCup champion is. All of his points were earned for an impressive 253 featured pictures and their associated bonus points (5060 and 1695, respectively). His entries constituted scans of currency from all over the world and scans of medallions awarded to participants of the U.S. Space program. came in second place; she earned by far the most bonus points (4082), for 4 featured articles, 15 good articles, and 147 DYKs, mostly about in her field of expertise, natural science. , a finalist every year since 2010, came in third, with 2379 points.

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 * wins the prize for first place and the FP prize for 330 featured pictures in the final round.
 * wins the prize for second place and the DYK prize for 160 did you knows in the final round (310 in all rounds).
 * wins the prize for third place and the FA prize for 26 featured articles in all rounds.
 * wins the prize for fourth place
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize and the FL prize for 11 featured lists.
 * wins the most prizes: a final 8 prize, the GA prize for 41 good articles, and the topic prize for a 13-article good topic and an 8-article featured topic, both in round 3.
 * wins the news prize for the most news articles in round 3.

We warmly invite all of you to sign up for next year's competition. Discussions and polls concerning potential rules changes are also open, and all are welcome to participate. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2016 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.

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 * But the medallions weren't scanned... — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:30, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Didn't have the energy to explain the difference...--Godot13 (talk) 00:41, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The inner pedant in me is raging. Especially since those coin photographs weren't nearly as easy as scanning. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I think I'm just now reading it correctly... yes, scans of currency (meant to include all the gold coins) doesn't work... Problem is that this does not appear to be a templated message therefore a general correction can't be made. Sadly, this is what perpetuates the notion that somehow these currency images are easy to knock off...--Godot13 (talk) 03:40, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I think this was substituted, hence why it doesn't appear to be a template. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Wowza!!!
And a big ole CONGRATULATIONS!! Impressive work. <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme 📞📧 17:38, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

An apology beer for you!

 * RO - If you want this apology to mean anything, please make it in the thread, but without conditions (i.e., it's weird...) Your explosive attack based on pure conjecture is weird...--Godot13 (talk) 23:49, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I struck my assumptions, but I think your approach he is borderline hyperbole. I'm sorry, but you didn't explain yourself very well, IMO. RO (talk) 23:51, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I've unwatched that page. Sorry to make assumptions, but I had no idea it would be such a big deal, as nobody ever reacted to assumptions made about me. Good luck, sorry to have been a bother. RO (talk) 23:57, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

WOW!

 * Many thanks Hafs...--Godot13 (talk) 16:25, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * GA is fine, Godot - did you forgot that White lady scan? You archived it somewhere... Hafspajen (talk) 17:57, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

ANI
In your last comment, you expressed concern about blanket OTRS and having to explain something to someone? I understand you're concerned, but I don't understand the exact nature of the concern. At this point I certainly would not contact anyone outside Wikipedia regarding this discussion -- internal wiki-politics are difficult to explain to normal people (i.e. outsiders) -- certainly you've done nothing wrong here. NE Ent 11:46, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * NE Ent- Understood, so long as none of the discussion thread becomes a hit in a Google search. Then I would need to address it with the institutions who have given me OTRS permissions.--Godot13 (talk) 21:18, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * Hi Godot, just a heads up: I've scheduled the 1890 Coin Note series for POTD on December 4. Please feel free to review them at Template:POTD/2015-12-04 (Individual pages are at Template:POTD/2015-12-04/1, Template:POTD/2015-12-04/2, Template:POTD/2015-12-04/3, Template:POTD/2015-12-04/4, Template:POTD/2015-12-04/5, Template:POTD/2015-12-04/6, and Template:POTD/2015-12-04/7 respectively) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:49, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
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Some stroopwafels for you!

 * sst✈ - Many thanks for the kind words.--Godot13 (talk) 06:05, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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I'm pretty new to this conflict. is the stuff I just removed from ANI stuff that needs to be revdel'd and oversighted? --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:44, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Floquenbeam-The boomerang section (thank you for your swift action) could be suppressed if it's not too much trouble, I just don't want to see it bite me later... but it's not a disaster if it isn't.--Godot13 (talk) 19:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not 100% sure of this, so I'm going to revdel, report to the Oversight team, and if they think OS is valid they can do that, and if they think I over-reacted they can un-revdel. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:59, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, and thank you for your help.-Godot13 (talk) 20:04, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm getting a database error for some reason, it won't let me revdel. I've emailed the oversight team. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like the Oversight team broke out the power tools. If immediate blocking was appropriate, sorry, I didn't quite know enough about what was going on to just do that right away. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:31, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what is appropriate, never having blocked someone, but your inquiry certainly set a chain of events in motion. Thank you.--Godot13 (talk) 21:01, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Apologies
I wanted to apologize for causing you additional grief. I was trying to make a point and unnecessarily mixed up some things which had the opposite effect. Thanks for your understanding. Viriditas (talk) 06:34, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries, it could happen to any of us...--Godot13 (talk) 06:39, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

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File:Specimen1Obv.jpg is still used in United States Mint coin sizes, but replacing that image needs the image cropping template. Could you do it? Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 20:42, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Armbrust - Will do.--Godot13 (talk) 23:26, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * First thing, upload this, fast, fast. - A winner in Christmas-times. Used all ower the place, Nativity of Jesus, - Jesus, - Nativity of Jesus in art, - Marian art in the Catholic Church, Timeline of the history of the region of Palestine - Wallraf-Richartz Museum, Christmas, Adoration of the Shepherds, Template:Xmas4 - Gerard van Honthorst, What Child Is This.. Hafspajen (talk) 15:40, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It is one of the Nativities that is greatly used. Must be uploaded though, then changer In all articles. I give you permission to sign it for me, dunno when I will be around any more for a while. It would be nice to nominate it now .. in season, so to speak. Hafspajen (talk) 14:59, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like your demands of real life was snatching you wawy -  I may be less active for a while myself. It's all in your hands now. Hafspajen (talk) 16:51, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Image question
Hi, Godot13, sorry for the long post, but I'm trying to put a few things in perspective and couldn't think of anyone who is more knowledgeable or whose opinion I respect more than yours. Your coin images are incredible - sharp, detailed, perfectly framed, properly lit, etc. - everything we expect in a FP. In fact, I'm going to use a hypothetical coin scenario to help demonstrate an ongoing issue regarding how u/w images are currently being judged as FP candidates. I'm not here to complain - I'm here to find a solution.

Imagine, if you will, taking a shiny new coin into the ocean, down to about 40 ft. where natural lighting sucks, the viz is a bit hazy and there's a 1 to 2 knot current. One side is bordered by a low reef, mostly rock with a few scattered soft and hard corals, and the other side is barren sandy bottom. You release the coin into the water and as it's falling the current sweeps it away rather quickly. What do you think are your chances for getting a perfectly in-focus shot of that falling coin? What about correct tonal balance and color while the coin is fluttering around in the current? How perfectly centered do you think the coin will be if the current is pushing you, and you're trying to maintain the same depth without an inadvertent rapid ascent that could give you the bends, or worse, an air embolism? How close to the true color of the coin do you think you will capture at 40 ft? How close do you think you will get to that coin to insure that it will properly fill the frame without the need for lossy cropping in post? What about lighting? You need a long armed strobe that can be positioned in a way to avoid backscatter - but wait, you'll have a slower shutter speed - around 60 to 80 and an f-stop at about 3.0 or lower - so how sharp will that image be and how much of the background will you capture? You either need to zoom-in which means you'll have more water refraction between you and the subject, or you have to get macro close which will cost you in depth of field. There won't be any stacking or bracketing or continuous shots or dynamic ranging because you and the subject are moving and the strobe couldn't keep up anyway. What happens to the anticipated interesting background? But wait, you're in the water column, so in all likelihood you're surrounded by water. The rock and corals that normally constitute a background are now beneath you. You're either shooting up or parallel to the subject, and since you have to use a strobe you need to be within 2 to 3 ft. of that coin, and you sure don't want the strobe to reflect off that coin and blow-out the shot. You have to find the perfect distance between you and the subject (all the while maintaining neutral buoyancy) which means you'll either position your strobes for a black background, or an out of focus blue/green background or if you're lucky, a really cool bokeh effect. If you increase the ISO and shutter speed in order to increase depth of field you'll have a grainy image.

Real life example - I captured a shot of a flatworm swimming in the water column which is a rare find in itself, (they undulate to propel themselves through the water). The critter was about 2" long, and we were 40 ft. deep in the Pacific Ocean (Yap) under the same circumstances I described above. Sea critters aren't going to stop and pose anymore than your coins will, but at least with the coins you can keep trying over and over, and you can also rest it on a rock and get the shot.  A flatworm isn't as cooperative.  I got as close as humanly possible, captured the shot, and even managed to get a really nice bokeh effect.  My question is, at what level do we set the standard of excellence for underwater images when judging  the technical aspects of our FP candidates?  Some u/w images represent excellence in underwater photography but may fall a bit short in meeting some of the technical qualities we expect in land-based photography.  Some of the best underwater images can't possibly compete on the same technical level as the best land-based macro, portrait and/or landscape images, yet that's how they're being judged. Is it possible that we can write something into the FP criteria that will reflect a more realistic technical expectation for underwater images? I'm not saying to lower the bar for FP by any means, but we need to stop comparing apples to oranges, especially when some of the technical demands are impossible to meet in the underwater environment. We're throwing the baby out with the bath water. Your input will be greatly appreciated. <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme 📞📧 02:26, 10 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Atsme- Give me a few days to mull this over please...--Godot13 (talk) 03:39, 12 December 2015 (UTC)


 * <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme 📞📧 - If the flatworm image you linked to above is one you are considering nominating for FP, go for it! I think it’s a great shot given the difficulties involved. Perhaps I’m being overly optimistic, but I think there are enough regulars at FP who can appreciate the technical difficulty involved in out of the ordinary photography (e.g., underwater, aerial, specialized lighting conditions, very difficult to repeat shots, etc.) that the support for a true FP will be there if warranted.


 * During the last few months of 2015 I nominated U.S. gold coin images for FP that were well received. What you didn’t see, however, were the 100+ images of the U.S. silver coins which I determined (for the most part) did not meet my criteria for a coin FP due to problems with lighting and exposure that were beyond correction while maintaining a natural appearance.


 * I think coming up with a separate set of FP criteria for any sub-category of images is very tricky (and potentially dangerous). It starts to break down what is already a somewhat subjective set of judging criteria into further subsets. Some may argue that an FP judged by one set is not an FP when judged by another set and that (I think) creates division. I think the best thing you can do is provide a detailed description in the nomination of the process involved in capturing the image. But this needs to be done (please forgive me, I mean no disrespect whatsoever) with the least amount of defensiveness possible (i.e., statements of how difficult it is to shoot underwater). This is a difficult task because, after all, you are the photographer and the image represents your work. Let your supporters (I hope) comment on the difficulty of the shot on your behalf. Some images won’t succeed, other will. If it remains a problem down the road, perhaps we could revisit the idea. I know this isn’t what you wanted to hear, but does it make any sense?--Godot13 (talk) 06:11, 16 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your response and for taking time to review my post. I agree with you for the most part.  Everything you mentioned makes perfect sense. I actually do try to be objective when submitting u/w images for FP evaluation.  I was simply hoping to avoid having to explain the technical difficulties and/or rarity of each shot because it tends to come off as pompous, or worse, whinney.  That's why I thought maybe adding a brief paragraph to the criteria to draw attention to a few variables in extreme environments might help.  You are absolutely correct about the reviewers though - they are intuitive, and the majority are excellent photographers.  I appreciate the knowledgeable critiques and am a firm believer that GF criticism keeps us humble and striving to do better.  <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme 📞📧 00:47, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

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Your FLC nom
As long as the request doesn't descend into canvassing, I have no issue with asking a couple of trusted editors for reviews. December is always slow at FLC, so I understand that you might need to stimulate some interest in the list. Giants2008 ( Talk ) 00:09, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Giants2008 ( Talk ) - Right now it's at 3 supports, should I work on getting another reviewer?-Godot13 (talk) 06:11, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Three supports is often a key threshold for promotion. The biggest problem you have is that myself and PresN, two of the FLC closers, are both recused now that we've supported., are you willing to close this one when the time comes? Giants2008  ( Talk ) 23:06, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep, I certainly will. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 08:07, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

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OK, here is one

 * !). This one we were hoping for with Yngvadottir for a while - she wrote the article, and it was meant to be nominated. Hafspajen (talk) 20:39, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * 1)  And three more noms  This article is ready.
 * 2)The other, needs an article here is the file. Article is here:  User:Hafspajen/Japanese Footbridge.


 * 3) This might be simply added, with some little additions.  It has an article too, but needs some more to expand. An article, same title, same artist but different painting....??  No problem, plenty of sources.  Hafspajen (talk) 16:01, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Hafs- I'm on the road, but expect to have a fast connection on Dec 31 so I'll try to get them down/uploaded then...--Godot13 (talk) 09:15, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * No hurry- it will be fine in a couple of days... The first one it would be nice if can co-nom it. They worked hard to fix that article ... with you or me or ... all three? (Unless there will be a new row.. ahem). Either way, Yngvadottir should be in the nom. The rest is ours. Hafspajen (talk) 16:40, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hafs and - Stalheim is ready. Why don't the two of you co-nom. I'm happy to support, but (and, ahem, no new row) I'm not sure how I feel about the majority of support (3 out of the required 5 supports) coming from possible nominators. Please, the two of you should co-nom...--Godot13 (talk) 02:55, 1 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Folks, I'll go ahead and change the image in the article, and I think it should be a featured picture if the Google scan merits it (I have no eye for the quality of reproductions past a certain low point): it's a very important picture in Norway and truly lovely, so much so that I embarrassed everybody by letting out a great shout when I was in a bus and suddenly saw the actual view ... but I don't do featured stuff. Please go ahead without naming me :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 12:34, 1 January 2016 (UTC)


 * You do it. wrote it, Godot uploaded it. I support. Hafspajen (talk) 15:58, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

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Sign it... . Hafspajen (talk) 18:18, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Godot you MUST sign yourself, or Armbust will kick uss in the ass, no matter who uploaded it. Hafspajen (talk) 18:43, 31 December 2015 (UTC)


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