User talk:Godsy/Archive/2021

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NEW USERBOX!
Hi Godsy, I found you in the Category:Redirectionist Wikipedians. You may like the new userbox User redirectionist. Have fun! Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 03:39, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Complete lists
I've drafted an alternative/replacement essay relating to complete lists at User:Thryduulf/Complete lists. Comments from you (and anyone else reading this talk page) are more than welcome. Thryduulf (talk) 21:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

AFC tag
I added the AFC tag which you removed to discourage the author from moving the page to article space for a second time. Please reconsider. Cabayi (talk) 12:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * A bit limited on time at the moment, so here's just a quick reply: AfC is a voluntary process. Any page that bears an AfC tag, unfortunately, becomes eligible for G13 in six months, whereas Non-AfC userspace pages do not. Adding an unsubmitted AfC template to the userspace of another results in eventual backdoor deletion of sorts. Submitting is a prerogative of anyone (i.e. in theory it shows they believe the page is appropriate and no one owns a draft), but simply adding a page to the dominion of the WikiProject unsubmitted is a slippery, perhaps even dubious slope (what if someone gets the notion to add the template to a great many userspace drafts to "clean the userspace up" {a ridiculous notion} in their mind?). When users add it themselves, they have knowingly or not entered into that agreement which is on them. Userspace draft also offers similar advice and has an AfC submission button but does not come with the potential consequences. See also WP:DUD. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 13:10, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * With one copy on his talk page, another on his user page, and another in his sandbox which he moved to articlespace - I don't think there's any chance he'll forget about it for 6 months. Indeed, he's hovering on the brink of a WP:NOTHERE block which will render the distinction moot. However, I'll let it be. Thanks for your time. Cabayi (talk) 13:27, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Pending file move requests
Hello Godsy, trust you’re okay & keeping safe, I noticed this has been pending since March 2, I understand you’re busy and have a lot of real life issues to deal with it, but could you be so kind as to make the file move when you are less busy? Thanks mate. Celestina007 (talk) 18:33, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * About to walk out the door right now, but I will more than happily take a look at the request when I am able (likely later this evening). That aside – I have never, ever, seen a request at WP:PERM languish open for so long. I am increasingly displeased with the situation, and it remains that way despite my efforts. Warmest regards, — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 19:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for assisting me in this regard mate. I enjoy working with files & it’s complexity, in-fact, the complex nature is the reason I fell in love with it in the first place. Once again, thanks Godsy. Celestina007 (talk) 19:27, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks like someone got to that renaming request before I was able to. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 15:04, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Godsy
For looking out for me. Words can’t explain how grateful I am to you. Thanks once again. Celestina007 (talk) 00:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Anytime. My talk page is always here if you need assistance in the future. —  Godsy (TALK CONT ) 01:36, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Question about: no longer due to afc mandates
I see that you moved an article I was working on to Draft:Clarice Yentsch. From your comment ("no longer ' {ud} due to afc mandates") I think this means I should not use userdraft for articles. I have no problem with this as I am quite new and trying to figure out how to work on content here. I would like to understand what/why/etc., so that I learn. I followed links on your talk page and got to WP:DUD which was informative. Now I understand why you moved the page, but the question is what I do next. I have been creating new articles by using the Wikipedia Article Wizard after clicking on red links. Should I continue to do that and then move the article to the main space? Or, is there a different path that is suggested? When I start an article it is by no means ideas or full sentences, is it acceptable to leave them in userdraft until they are at least complete thoughts? I think I understand that because I am past 4 days/10 edits I can put articles into the mainspace, but should I still submit the articles for review (using )? Thanks for your help.DaffodilOcean (talk) 10:49, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I arrived at the draft because of Category:Misplaced userspace drafts (decided not to bother sorting out the rest of the pages in that maintenance category at this time). I would suggest reading WP:DUD (as you say you did). userspace draft is much preferable to an afc submission tag when content is in the userspace. I did not move the page; that was likely a minion of the afc process. Pages in the userspace (including userspace drafts) are not subject to G13 and its imposition of arbitrary time limits before a page is deleted (assuming it does not bear any afc templates). Thus, a page may reside in the userspace indefinitely in theory unless someone decides to waste time trying to remove it (unless it actually has issues worth worrying about {and generally fall within the speedy deletion criteria}, which is uncommon). That aside, participation in the afc wikiproject process is entirely voluntary; you may choose to submit your draft for review if you like or simply move your page to the mainspace. AfC can be helpful in getting things up to mainspace standards in some cases, but I have also seen it, many times, keep things that would be fine or even flourish in the mainspace. Hope that helps; happy to clarify anything if you have any more questions. Warm regards, — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 21:40, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, now I see. I did not realize that the AfC process was voluntary after I passed the initial 4 days/10 edits. Thanks for the clarification.DaffodilOcean (talk) 22:17, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive
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Miscellany for deletion: Bad Idea
I requested to move Bad Idea (song) to the title of Bad Idea, but I am unable to because the page "Bad Idea" already exists. I need to delete "Bad Idea" so I can move "Bad Idea (song)" to that title. My error message is "A redirect already exists at Bad Idea, and it cannot be deleted automatically. Please choose another name." Thanks, -- dyl  x  16:48, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I left instructions regarding several ways to request the page be moved to that title in my closing rationale at Miscellany for deletion/Bad Idea. Warm regards, — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 01:05, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Normchou/Essays/Does common sense point to a lab leak origin?
Hi, was your close here meant to be procedural (i.e. a mere acknowledgement that deleted the page) or substantive (i.e. you reviewed the arguments and decided there was a consensus to delete)? If it is the former, please note that Jc37 vacated their own substantive close, and so currently the MfD has not actually been closed substantively. If it is the latter, this is probably not the kind of discussion a non-admin should be closing. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 17:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Per what he said above. If you are essentially only closing this as "already deleted", please revert your close and allow someone to assess everything and make a determination. - jc37 19:09, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Short on time right now. The close was merely procedural (i.e. describing the deleting administrator's action). I have no problem with my close being vacated (i.e. reverted), as long as the page in question is undeleted as well; it makes no sense to continue a discussion there while the page is still deleted (e.g. how can people determine if something should be deleted without the ability to view it?). — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 00:57, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:09, 5 December 2021 (UTC)