User talk:GoingBatty/Archive13

Removed/fixed incorrect author parameter(s)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Clodagh_McKenna&curid=58990715&diff=1062867923&oldid=1058626070

You're wrong. Please don't do this. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:28, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I deeply apologize. But please mention in the edit summary that Condé Nast is a global mass media company and WP:Citoid was being stupid. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:37, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Looking at, I can't tell whether it was Citoid or something else, so I won't be mentioning Citoid in my edit summaries. If you're able to replicate the issue, I hope you will please report it in the appropriate place.  Thanks, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 17:16, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That edit is actually tagged "Visual edit". There is only one reason I'd ever fire up that monstrosity: citoid. Thank you for the improved edit summary! — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:45, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Phabricator: Citoid incorrectly inserts "Condé Nast" as author in references. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:09, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hope you like better, which my bot will use today.  GoingBatty (talk) 17:23, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, Condé Nast (businessman) founded Condé Nast the company. It's possible there are articles by him in old issues of Vanity Fair, Vogue, The New Yorker, and other magazines before he died in 1942, so my bot can't blindly delete every instance.  GoingBatty (talk) 23:10, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

re phab:T298352
(It is here.)

Hi GoingBatty. So, I don't think I like this bot, or whatever it is (if it's not a bot, what is it? If it's just a semi-automated human assistance tool, it comes under WP:MEATBOT pr WP:ASSISTED or something like that it seems, which it looks like is treated much like a bot, if I'm reading things right?)

So, anyway, if T298352 is a bot, there's a whole process to get these deployed it looks like. I'm not familiar with it, but I see that there's a page Bots which includes links other pages such as Bot policy and so on, and there's a good deal to digest here. I'm not up to speed on any of this, but WP:BOTISSUE says to contact the "bot operator" first, which I guess you're not (its User:BrownHairedGirl and maybe others?), but you wrote it so maybe you'd be a good starting point? If not, let me know, thanks.

So... I'm willing to be convinced that it's a good thing, but that might be for a larger discussion (not sure). I made my points at User talk:BrownHairedGirl, if you want to see them. On that basis, I'm requesting here that you disable the thing until we can figure out the next steps, here. If you don't want to, OK, then the question is how can we work together to make sure everything is done correctly and smoothly here. One thing I'd like to know first off is, what is a quick overview of the process that leads from conception to deployment of these bots (or whatever they are), and this one in particular? If I'm reading it right, there would have been some discussion about it, I think? Could you point me to it? Thanks for your time. Herostratus (talk) 12:05, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * @Herostratus: I think that you have inadvertently conflated two separate processes.
 * First, there is an AWB run which I have just completed. That job regularised the positioning of a bunch of inline templates: Better source needed, Self-published inline, Unreliable fringe source, Irrelevant citation, Obsolete source, COI source, Promotional source, Unreliable source?, Failed verification, Primary source inline, Unreliable medical source. In each case, the doc for the template says to place it after the   tags, but some uses erroneously placed it inside the   tags.
 * I found these uses by a scan of the latest (20211220) database dump, and have fixed them all. I plan to do the same again with the next database dump.  This is not a bot, just an AWB JOB.
 * Having seen my work, then opened T298352, which proposes to incorporate these fixes in AWB's WP:GENFIXES.  That means that whenever anyone runs AWB for any purposes, it will make these fixes, unless they disable GENFIXES.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 12:45, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Current consensus, as demonstrated in the template documentation, is to place these inline templates after the  tags. However, some people (and some tools) incorrectly place them inside the  tags.  's work inspired me to ask the developers of AutoWikiBrowser (software used by human editors and automated bots) to make this part of its general fixes.  However, consensus can change.  If it does, I will be happy to adjust or cancel my AWB feature request accordingly.  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 16:34, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright, User:BrownHairedGirl and GoingBatty. I still don't agree that this is for the best, but it's not worth fighting about. I was considering rolling back the changes per WP:BRD and making you prove the benefit. I probably wouldn't have won my point, but maybe, since you'd need a supermajority. But it's not worth taking people's time.


 * I looked into it some, and boy the history of these templates is a bit of mess, with various duplicated templates and name changes and all and different purposes and all ("[self=published source]" and so forth). There still is a nearly-duplicate (but not exactly) template, Unreliable source? which isn't used much that I've seen.


 * As near as I can tell, there wasn't any discussion over whether the template should be inline or in the "Refs" section, somebody just did it. It's established precedent because nobody much thought about over the years I suppose. If the documentation writer had said the other thing, that probably just would have become accepted as the established precedent. But oh well. (I asked a couple-few years ago for the documentation to be changed to "inline or in the Refs section as the editor thinks best" (a general approach I wish was more popular), but was rebuffed in a thread that had I think one other participant. Template talk pages are obscure.)


 * I think the best way forward is to have a different template for editors to use when they feel that the template should be inside the ref, and I'll see if I can get that approved, but that has nothing to do with us here. Thank you for your service in doing what you believe is the correct thing, and which indeed may be (can't be proven either way I guess). Herostratus (talk) 19:17, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Suzana Joumaa
Greeting, User:GoingBatty hope you are well, I am Wikipedian from Saudi Arabia, Can you help me review this article and correct it, and if it is appropriate, move it to the main space. Thank you --Wikipeida From Saudi Arabia (talk) 13:58, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there! You've seen that I've made updates to Draft:Suzana Joumaa.  I hope you will add information about her career as an artist, singer/songwriter, and  interior architect.  When you're ready to submit it for review, add  to the top of your draft.  I also suggest you change your username from the misspelled "Wikipeida" to "Wikipedian".  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 14:37, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi thank you, if you have time can you move it to the article and thanks a lot beacuse I think you have enough experience to distinguish the article based on the authority you have Best--Wikipeida From Saudi Arabia (talk) 14:50, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You have a lot of work to do before the draft is ready to become an article. Since I do not read Arabic, I will not be reviewing the article.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 15:24, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have added to you the English sources in The Article, which are world-renowned websites and newspapers in Qatar ,also I have added some information and sources.Can you review please? Wikipeida From Saudi Arabia (talk) 03:55, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Your second sentence has NINE references, while many facts do not have any. Remember that references should be added either directly following the fact that they support, or at the end of the sentence that they support, following any punctuation.  Keep working on it!  GoingBatty (talk) 04:07, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, and I think the article went well with the sources What do you think? Thank you for your advice --Wikipeida From Saudi Arabia (talk) 04:59, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Updated again. I suggest you focus on independent sources, not her own web site or interviews.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 05:08, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, As for independent sources, we have many, including Qatari newspapers, and her website is only cited once, --Wikipeida From Saudi Arabia (talk) 05:16, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You used her web site as a reference for four items. I combined the references so it's only included in the reference list once with an "a b c d".  GoingBatty (talk) 05:26, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The article has been updated again with the correct sources and I learn a lot from you! Thank you so much for your wonderful edits --Wikipeida From Saudi Arabia (talk) 05:55, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think you understand that references should be added directly following the fact that they support. There are MANY cases where I read a sentence, then read the reference immediately after that sentence, and they are not related at all.  GoingBatty (talk) 06:05, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * GoingBatty I have deleted the sentences that are not mentioned in the sources and Is the draft ready for the article in the main space now I've added the image too, i hope you move it , stay safe Happy Editing Wikipeida From Saudi Arabia (talk)
 * You still have some "failed verification" and "citation needed" tags to resolve. If references #4 and #6 are to the same article, then you can combine them. File:Suzanajoumaa.jpg is missing evidence of permission, so see the instructions on that page. As I stated above, I will not be reviewing the article since I do not read Arabic. When you're ready to have your draft reviewed, click the blue "Finished drafting? Submit for review!" button on your draft. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 14:50, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay Thank you Wikipeida From Saudi Arabia (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 14:58, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you User:GoingBatty for doing corrections on my newly created articles. It means a lot. RPSkokie (talk) 03:29, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Morgan Giraudet
Hello, I just want to ask you a question about the Wikipedia page : Morgan Giraudet. How I can make a link between his Wikidata and his Wikipedia? The subtitle is not present.

Thank you very much.

Billie, aka BillieHereDitary (talk) 21:54, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * When looking at the Morgan Giraudet article, you can look at the left side toolbar for a link labeled "Wikidata item" that will take you to the Wikidata item about him. I changed the short description on the Wikipedia article and the description on the Wikidata item.  Hope this helps, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 21:58, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Mone Symone
Hello, I've been trying to decline this item which does not pass WP:NMUSIC and which has twice been moved to main by a new account. But... keep gettng 'page unresponsve' messages after clicking on 'review' and then on decline. At that point nothing happens and the page wll not reload either. I've done a reboot etc. to no avail; everything else seems to be working OK – I can edit and review other pages it seems, but not this one. Any ideas? Orrr... if you feel it appropriate could you decline? No worries if not – I'm sure someone will do so hopefully before it gets moved again. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 00:51, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hmmm....I have the same issue, so I manually declined it. Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 01:02, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * THanks! Duh... I did not think of that. Good move. Eagleash (talk) 03:15, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Ahmed Al-Harrasi
Hi User:GoingBatty Goodevening and hope you are doing well, Draft:Ahmed Al-Harrasi, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ahmed_Al-Harrasi all the citation added, Can you please review this article if needed please correct it, if found all correct please publish it. Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk • contribs) 14:44, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Please disclose your conflict of interest on your user page. After that, when you're ready for your draft to be re-reviewed, please click the blue "Resubmit" button at the top of your draft.  Happy editing!   GoingBatty (talk) 14:47, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

How to disclose conflict of interest
Hi user:GoingBatty, much appreciated you help as usual, but I don't have any conflict of interest over this article, I am not paid editor too, I am salaried staff of University of Nizwa to provide this type of help and support, should I forward the letter signed by me that is stating I don't have any confliction of interest over this article, as word or pdf format. Please help me how to write this. thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk • contribs) 15:50, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * If you are Ahmed Al Harrasi writing about Ahmed Al Harrasi, then you have a conflict of interest. If you are NOT Ahmed Al Harrasi, then impersonating Ahmed Al Harrasi is a violation of our user policy.  Salaried staff of University of Nizwa writing an article about a professor of the University of Nizwa is considered paid editing and must be disclosed on your user page - see WP:PAYDISCLOSE.  Either way, go to your user page and write a couple sentences on your relationship with Ahmed Al Harrasi and the University of Nizwa.  Thanks!    GoingBatty (talk) 16:11, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

hi user: GoingBatty. thanks for your reply, I wrote "I, Syed Mohammad Sarfaraz Hamid, https://www.unizwa.edu.om/profile_details.php?lang=en&comingfrom=&staffid=1578  work with the Natural and Medical Sciences Research Center (NMSRC) at the University of Nizwa as a Design Analyst and Developer. I disclosed that I am paid to work for the Article/Biography of Prof Ahmed Al-Harrasi, Vice Chancellor for Graduate Studies, Research & External Relations, Chairman - NMSRC. Further, I am declaring that there is no conflict of anything between me, the employer and the client over Wikipedia article/biography creation. The University of Nizwa is my sponsor and the employer in the Sultanate of Oman." Should I write something else ? if it is fine should I add this text before the starting of the article ? thanks in advance for your cooperation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk • contribs) 17:13, 12 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Please do not add a new section for each reply - just click "Edit source" and add your reply and your signature - see Help:Introduction to talk pages.
 * Your proposal above is good, except the sentence starting with "Further..." - please read Conflict of interest. This should be added to your user page: User:Ahmed Al Harrasi.  GoingBatty (talk) 17:53, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi user: GoingBatty, thanks again for your reply if the given is fine i will add it to the article: I, Syed Mohammad Sarfaraz Hamid, https://www.unizwa.edu.om/profile_details.php?lang=en&comingfrom=&staffid=1578 work with the Natural and Medical Sciences Research Center (NMSRC) at the University of Nizwa as a Design Analyst and Developer. I disclosed that I am paid to work for the Article/Biography of Prof Ahmed Al-Harrasi, Vice Chancellor for Graduate Studies, Research & External Relations, Chairman - NMSRC. The University of Nizwa is my sponsor and the employer in the Sultanate of Oman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk • contribs) 18:01, 12 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Your statement looks good, but you should add it to your user page: User:Ahmed Al Harrasi.
 * When writing on a talk page like this, always sign your comments by typing <sign your comments by typing  or clicking the OOUI JS signature icon LTR.svg button. This will automatically insert your username and a link to your personal talk page, along with the time you saved the page.  GoingBatty (talk) 18:06, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

hi GoingBatty can i change User1 = Ahmed Al Harrasi to Syed Mohammad Sarfaraz Hamid ?? like below

or should i publish the automatic result by the Wikipedia ??

Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk · contribs) has been paid by University of Nizwa. Their editing has included contributions to this article. Declaration — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk • contribs) 18:15, 12 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I changed the employer & client fields for you. The U1-otherlinks can be changed after you add your disclosure to your userpage. You should change your username first (see Changing username), and then you can change your username in Connected contributor (paid) on Draft talk:Ahmed Al-Harrasi.  GoingBatty (talk) 18:25, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

thanks you very much, but didnt get the user name change, it asked Simple or complex renames (no confirmed email required): use Simple. i used it and changed to Sarfaraz Hamid, but nothing happened — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk • contribs) 18:46, 12 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I see you successfully submitted your request at Changing username/Simple. I hope your request is honored and handled soon.  GoingBatty (talk) 19:10, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi GoingBatty, thanks for your help! yes now I am unblocked now but still my username name is not changed, still I am able to login through my old username "Ahmed Al Harrasi, but yesterday I changed it to Sarfaraz Hamid" is there anything more to do. thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk • contribs) 02:14, 13 January 2022 (UTC)


 * No, yesterday you submitted a request to have your name changed. Please be patient while someone reviews all the name change requests.  In the meantime, please add your conflict of interest disclosure to User:Ahmed Al Harrasi.  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 02:20, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Thnaks for your quick response! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk • contribs) 02:23, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

But before disclosing it again should I have to wait for the name change and then give a try ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk • contribs) 02:27, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No, you can add the disclosure now. You can also study Help:Introduction to talk pages. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:29, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi GoingBatty, I disclosed but my new name "Sarfaraz Hamid" is red because it is still not created and I added some lines of the disclosure below it, is it fine ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk • contribs) 02:43, 13 January 2022 (UTC)


 * No, please add the disclosure to User:Ahmed Al Harrasi. GoingBatty (talk) 02:48, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Its done and should I remove the disclosure line too "I, Syed Mohammad Sarfaraz Hamid, https://www.unizwa.edu.om/profile_details.php?lang=en&comingfrom=&staffid=1578 work with the Natural and Medical Sciences Research Center (NMSRC) at the University of Nizwa as a Design Analyst and Developer. I disclosed that I am paid to work for the Article/Biography of Prof Ahmed Al-Harrasi, Vice Chancellor for Graduate Studies, Research & External Relations, Chairman - NMSRC. The University of Nizwa is my sponsor and the employer in the Sultanate of Oman." or leave as it is ? thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk • contribs) 02:55, 13 January 2022 (UTC)


 * But it's not done. I can tell it's not done because User:Ahmed Al Harrasi is a red link.  I'll try again for the EIGHTH time: Click on this ---> User:Ahmed Al Harrasi < and add the disclosure.  GoingBatty (talk) 03:56, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Dear GoingBatty, I added the disclosure into the given space. thanks once gain for the help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk • contribs) 04:21, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Dear GoingBatty, I want to give my thanks again for your many edits on it, this is my first experiance with Wikipedia, so many things I dont know how to do but I learnt a lot, hope in future I wll not make thses mistakes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Al Harrasi (talk • contribs) 06:04, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Status update on Stanford faculty article
Hello, You declined an article in October because of a problem with sources (which I think I fixed) and I needed to disclose a conflict of interest (which I've since added, I believe). We had a nice chat but I was pulled away to other work. I now see that maybe the article has been declined, or maybe not - since it still says it's being reviewed on the bottom of the page. Can you tell me if all is okay and/or what next to do? Thank you so much. This is the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Geoffrey_L._Cohen CBGBcomm (talk) 22:17, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Much better, but a tagged a few issues to be resolved. Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 23:33, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your speedy reply. I stuck with the mantra of - if in doubt, leave it out - and removed some things that couldn't easily be backed up by a credible third party. I wasn't sure if his own CV counted as a reliable source. The review even forced a better copyedit overall from me. I believe I've resolved everything. LMK if I missed anything! Cheers CBGBcomm (talk) 01:00, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Accepted! Now that it's an article, you may not edit it due to your COI.  Instead, you may submit suggestions on Talk:Geoffrey L. Cohen with the edit request template, or use the Edit Request Wizard.  Have a good weekend!  GoingBatty (talk) 01:08, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh my gosh! Thank you. I am so grateful for your help with this. Your guidance was appreciated. Have a great weekend. CBGBcomm (talk) 02:59, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

8-50374
Re this edit: was 8-50374 → 8–50374 intended? All the other catalog numbers in that article use a hyphen. I used to be in the record business, part of my job was assigning catalog numbers, and we always used hyphens. GA-RT-22 (talk) 22:44, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * AWB is a wonderful tool but hyphenation seems to cause more than its share of problems. Time for a rethink? Certes (talk) 22:55, 16 January 2022 (UTC)AWB
 * Thanks for letting me know and reverting my edit. I've mentioned the issue with this typo rule at WT:AWB/T.  GoingBatty (talk) 23:10, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

"off and on"
Hey! In your latest reply to a question on the help desk, I can't tell if you were genuinely trying to give a helpful response or making a joke. Not accusing of you being unhelpful, it's just that in the computer community, turning something "off and then back on" is a semi-joke because it seems to solve everything. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:45, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I was trying to give a helpful response. Occasionally, I've been embarrassed by forgetting the simple solutions to IT problems, and attempted to word my question in a friendly manner.  GoingBatty (talk) 15:53, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Alright sounds good. Just wanted to make sure as the problem they were describing didn't sound like turning the computer off and on would do much to fix it and also above. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:16, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The other responder believed the problem was browser based, and I hope the solution is something easy like restarting. I'm presuming that an IP wouldn't have checked a Wikipedia preference or modified a .js file or done some other hack to accidentally cause the issue.  I am a fan of the UK version of The IT Crowd, but don't typically start troubleshooting with "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"  :-)  GoingBatty (talk) 17:35, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm also a big fan of "How to Report Bugs Effectively" when receiving a bug report, but don't always remember to follow these suggestions when I submit a bug report. It's a lot harder to troubleshoot when we can't see the user's screen.  GoingBatty (talk) 17:42, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Very true. On my previous laptop (which was an HP Stream, which in my opinion is the worst laptop you could buy) I had contacted Microsoft report many times and each time they requested access to my PC for troubleshooting. I wonder if that's what caused it to quit working... they weren't actually Microsoft... hmm.... ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:46, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It's been a while since I've gotten a Microsoft technical support scam call, but was just telling someone yesterday of the time when a scammer called our landline (back when people had those), and my young son answered and tried to respond to their questions. My son asked me for help when he couldn't install their remote access software, and I harassed the scammer until they hung up.  However, calls about my (nonexistent) student loans or renewing my auto warranty still happen too frequently.  GoingBatty (talk) 17:54, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I've never received a Microsoft tech support scam call actually. There's just the chance I clicked on a link I though was legitimate but was really a scam website. Harrassing scammers is almost always the best way to get rid of them (in fact, I saw a video of someone placing the phone under a metal pot, and then banging a crap ton on the pot). ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:01, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Useful resources were added in the theater and film sections
Hello dear friend Wikipedia. New resources were added in the theater and film sections. Please review and cooperate to complete my article and I hope I can create more experience for more Iranian women articles. --Karestoonegoli (talk) 09:12, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I read the English language sources and made my comments at Draft:Zahra Meygoli. You have a lot of work to do before you're ready to resubmit your draft for review.  GoingBatty (talk) 14:00, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Please review again.
It's really confusing to me, but there is a part that confuses me with the sheer volume of resource rules, but I like to talk to experienced people and learn something because it makes me feel good. Thank You I hope this problem is solved. I hope I can continue to be a good editor in the midst of all these experienced users.--Karestoonegoli (talk) 14:33, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't have to add a new section header to continue the conversation in this section. You should create references like this:
 * This is a statement.
 * For example, the references you use in the "Theater" section should mention her theater career. Hope this helps, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 14:41, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, Yes, you are right. I'm really gaining interesting experiences so I've been talking about this article for hours now.

It is enjoyable for me. But I'm really tired of going to the wrong places, and I need the help of experienced editors to fix these problems so that it becomes an experience for me.--Karestoonegoli (talk) 14:46, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you've never edited Wikipedia before. To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and The Wikipedia Adventure.  I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills.  After you have gained your experience, you can gather independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage about Meygoli, and determine whether she meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability".  If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created.  GoingBatty (talk) 14:52, 20 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes, in my case you are absolutely right.

I'm an amateur editor, and you are experienced. And I take positive feedback from you and will continue to use it. But you are right, there is a lot going on on the wiki, and it is gratifying to me that I feel like I am in court and I have to answer to a lot of people who are defending it. It's beautiful for me because I talk a lot and I got interested in this kind of work. May I have many experiences with you dear ones and with you. I hope this article ends with your help, friends, so that I can enter into other projects soon.--Karestoonegoli (talk) 17:57, 20 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Do I really see other Iranian artists using IMDB resources? I mean they can but it is not valid for me? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golab_Adineh, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegah_Ahangarani , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahra_Amir_Ebrahimi , | You see, they used it too. I'm really confused by all these contradictions. If they can, then I should add it to my article.

Keep in mind that this site is the best source of artistic proof for Iranian female actors. Considering the domestic policies of Iran, you should also consider this. Please help me to finish the article.--Karestoonegoli (talk) 18:20, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Per WP:IMDB, "The content on IMDb is user-generated, and the site is considered unreliable by a majority of editors....The use of IMDb as an external link is generally considered appropriate". Each article you mentioned has IMDb in the "External links" section.  I removed any references to IMDb.  Please also see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.  GoingBatty (talk) 18:32, 20 January 2022 (UTC)


 * So help me get the article I worked so hard for a while and get into the publishing process. You will help me with more experience to finish. Really, if I was not interested, I would have dropped the wiki by now.I hope you are with me to make great progress with you.--Karestoonegoli (talk) 18:44, 20 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much my friend. I hope that all experienced editors will support me so that I can be happy on Wikipedia, not disappoint.

I really like Wikipedia and this concern of experience. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karestoonegoli (talk • contribs) 18:49, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * As someone who does not read Persian, I'm not the right person to find and evaluate the reliable sources you'll need to create a good draft.   GoingBatty (talk) 18:55, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you, GoingBatty for your attempts to help. I have one more question -- if it is an easy one for you: how do I add names to the 'block E-mails' section of preferences. I tried a name in the box, but it did not take. Then, on retry, the "Save" box was inactive. I did manage to change my username though, prior to now giving up on "Axonometric Projection". [To paraphrase a great politician -- at least by today's standards, "They won't have LemChastain to kick around anymore." My new name should follow. I guess it is safer to not put your real name on Wiki-pedia; especially as it may remain there forever. "30" (talk) Ljc 23:09, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there! That's not a feature I use, but I found Emailing_users, which says "If you have the email preference enabled, you can specify usernames which you do not want to be able to send you emails."  So maybe you have so enable the email preference first, save that, and then add the usernames you want to exclude?  GoingBatty (talk) 02:27, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Just for fun, could you please try adding GoingBatty to the block E-mails section and see if that works? If it doesn't, what is the exact error message it gives you? GoingBatty (talk) 03:54, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

"A trick to get rid of me, he wondered. What if I can't reverse it, and not be able to get any more help?" Cross fingers, knock on wood, salt over shoulder, and push on. It was as simple as using the 'Enter' instead of the 'Tab' (which I must have used on prior tries). Reversal was effected simply by clicking on the 'X' for user to be restored. I will next be looking into 'barnstars', but for now, give yourself a Distelfink. And, thanks again. (talk) Ljc 16:03, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry - I didn't think that asking you to use my username would make it seem like I'm trying to get rid of you. I'll pick User:JimboWales next time.  Thanks for confirming it works, and for teaching me what a Distelfink is.  GoingBatty (talk) 16:10, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Dear GoingBatty, I've been told to not make any personal statements on a user's Talk page -- certainly not issue Distelfinks; so I may have to go back an edit out that initial "Thank you", and the subsequent, "And thanks again." But, Barnstars, apparently, are impersonal. I must be on a few Watch(out!) lists, but hope you get to see this; unlike the other intended Distelfink recipient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lemchastain (talk • contribs) 03:59, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * While it's inappropriate to make personal statements in an article (e.g. Axonometric projection), and inappropriate to try to talk to the subject of an article on an article talk page (e.g. Talk:Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight), it's perfectly fine to leave a nice "Thank you" comment to another Wikipedia editor on their user talk page (e.g. this page). Hope this clarifies some of the types of pages on Wikipedia.  GoingBatty (talk) 04:09, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Dear GoingBatty, Well, a certain editor that is getting a lot of 'get well soon' wishes on its Talk page told me that comments are only for improving the 'Article' part. But, if I could thank you, I would do it again for the quick reply. (talk) Ljc 04:21, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, your edits on Talk:Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight were inappropriate, because that page is only for discussing how to improve the Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight article, not to talk to Rosie. (I think the discussion about the T-shirt was a request for a photograph of her wearing something more formal, not for a topless picture!) However, this is a User talk page, where the goal is to talk to another Wikipedia user.   See the video on Help:Talk pages for more info.  GoingBatty (talk) 05:54, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks that distinction eluded me. (talk) Ljc 17:26, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Can User:BattyBot's task #34 remove redirect-related templates?
Per page User:BattyBot, task #34 is Add WikiProject Disambiguation to existing talk pages for all disambiguation pages. Could you also please remove transclusions of Talk page of redirect (and redirects to this template) from talk pages in this task? For example, in this edit transclusion of Talk page of a redirect should have been removed, because the page William Smelt stopped being a redirect. —⁠andrybak (talk) 14:30, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I used AWB to make a list of all the pages in Category:All article disambiguation pages and converted the list to talk pages. I then compared that list to all the pages that transclude Talk page of a redirect, and did not find any results.  Since it seems to be a one-off, I'm not able to submit a bot request to update this bot task.  GoingBatty (talk) 17:26, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

A Thank You!

 * Thanks for making my day! We were all newbies here at one point in time, and we've all been helped by others.  I'm just paying it forward.  Thanks for all you're doing to improve Wikipedia!  GoingBatty (talk) 00:44, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * <: it's my pleasure to tell you what a good job you're doing. Have a great next week! -Gretchen RemusSandersRegretsEverything (talk) 00:45, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Scotts Fork, Virginia
Thanks so much for the quick reply to my Help Desk inquiry. But the link you provided simply brings up the redirect notice, nothing editable. I can of course pull up the revision history and look at, and even edit, previous incarnations of the article, but working on an old version would be like replacing parts and souping up a vehicle that's abandoned in a junkyard. How do I proceed with the tinkering and then request that the restored car be, as it were, hauled out of salvage? -- 2603:6081:8004:DD5:51C:8F86:ED2F:527E (talk) 00:22, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there! The link I provided is editable - I just added a redirect template to it.  You could start Draft:Scotts Fork, Virginia if you want to tinker.  GoingBatty (talk) 00:40, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Another respondent to my question suggested I re-create the article more or less from scratch, and then submit it for approval (I've expanded several Amelia-related articles in the last few weeks, so I have plenty of sources and material to work with). Does the "draft" link do the same thing? -- 2603:6081:8004:DD5:51C:8F86:ED2F:527E (talk) 05:21, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. When you've completed the draft, add  to the top submit it for approval.  GoingBatty (talk) 06:09, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Stephen Miller (writer)
can you take a look at this last edit. The result looks weird now. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 05:32, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * - thanks for letting me know! GoingBatty (talk) 14:06, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for fixing it :-) Lotje (talk) 14:22, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

resubmit my article?
Hi dear friend. I hope the situation is very good. I need your help. Because you are really experienced and I enjoy being with all the experienced and logical editors. And that has led me to enjoy many hours on the wiki. Now your opinion is important to me. After these edits, I can resubmit my article? Draft:Zahra Meygoli. --Karestoonegoli (talk) 21:17, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I suggest you do not resubmit your draft until you deal with all the references that have failed verification and citation needed templates. GoingBatty (talk) 21:36, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I will definitely do this. I really like growing up on a wiki with professional editors like you. Just help me complete this and how do I delete them? Does it need to be added? --Karestoonegoli (talk) 21:43, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Please read Template:Failed verification and move/replace the references appropriately. GoingBatty (talk) 21:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, I acted on all your statements for hours with tired eyes and separated the sources related to each part and deleted the extra links. Please check I need someone with a lot of experience like you and I really enjoy it. I hope everything is fixed.--Karestoonegoli (talk) 23:10, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I can only read the English references, but it seems you still have some issues with failed verification and citations needed. Most of your English language references are for the sentence "Meygoli is an only child and her husband is one of the people who have encouraged her a lot in her success", which is probably the least important sentence in the whole draft.  You could delete the sentence and focus more on her career.  You mention that "Her first movie as a director is Salvation", but then the table says Mojtaba Rezaei was the director - which is it?  The lead mentions she is a producer and singer, but nowhere in the draft do you mention what she has produced or sung.  GoingBatty (talk) 23:47, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello dear friend, I hope you have good moments. The said work was done according to your useful guidance and your great experience.--Karestoonegoli (talk) 11:58, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there, and congratulations on the name change! Note that you don't have to ping someone on their own user talk page.  There are still citations needed for the films 24 room number and Sourosh.  Either provide information about her work as a director, producer, and singer - or remove those words from the first sentence.  Eight references in a row is citation overkill - please read WP:REFBOMB.  Do the Theater references mention Meygoli and the roles she performed in those plays? GoingBatty (talk) 16:16, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reminding me to change my name. I'm busy enough with experienced friends on the wiki. I am correcting and fixing the flaws of the article and I hope it will be finished with you soon and I will be able to continue in this direction and publish many articles. And especially editing ( Regarding the movies he has acted in, the source is mentioned in IMDB. In the actors section, every movie is recorded in IMDB when it is recorded with the actors and agents of the movie, but unfortunately you said that this site is for You have no credit. And I really do not know how to say he played the movie.). --Nazanin1376 (talk) 17:00, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I see several films listed at https://www.imdb.com/name/nm12979462/ but I do not see 24 room number or Sourosh (or Salvation). GoingBatty (talk) 17:16, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Usually, short films are not listed on IMDB, but their feature films are listed. I had to announce this box of short films because you said that this site is not valid, in these short films with few Persian sources. Please, if you deem it appropriate, edit the same feature films listed on that site.--Nazanin1376 (talk) 17:30, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Please provide a source for the short films or remove them from the draft. According to IMDb, Meygoli acted in many films you have not listed in the draft.  Can you find reliable sources for any of those films?  GoingBatty (talk) 17:36, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There is no more reliable source for filmmakers than this site, because on this site each user sends information about the actor and agents of a movie to record it. This site reviews the requests and after sending a message to the producer and director, publishes the names of the background film agents. Please check this out more my dear friend.--Nazanin1376 (talk) 18:03, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * If the short films are not listed on IMDb, how do you know she acted in these short films? GoingBatty (talk) 18:50, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * As I told you before and I repeat again because our city is a small city and everyone knows each other and knows each other. Meanwhile, his wife is a very famous person who is known by the great creators of Iranian cinema and is one of the prominent people of this city of Bushehr. I have already heard short films at his wife's seminars, so when I do not see the site as credible, I have to listen to what he hears at their seminars in this city. And insert the said videos.--Nazanin1376 (talk) 19:14, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Your draft cannot contain any of your personal knowledge. It must solely be based on independent reliable published sources.  When creating an article, you should first collect the reliable published sources, and then summarize/paraphrase what you have read.  Please remove anything that is not based on independent reliable published sources.  GoingBatty (talk) 19:18, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Dear, please help me to finish this article. Wherever you need, you have more experience than the information I have collected, make changes so that I can see and become more professional in this work. Thank you in advance for your help, dear friend.--Nazanin1376 (talk) 14:19, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not able to write this draft, as I am unable to read Persian. Therefore, I am unable to find independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage of her career and am unable to verify the sources that you provided.  GoingBatty (talk) 14:38, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, please check out the new edition and help me clear up irrelevant resources. I am waiting for your opinion.--Nazanin1376 (talk) 13:32, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * None of the English language references help establish her notability. References #1/16/18 are based on a press release, so they're not independent.  #2/3/11/15 are how she distributes her music, so they're not independent.  #4 is an interview, so it's not independent.  I don't see her mentioned in #12/17.  #20 gives me a 403 Forbidden error.   I cannot judge the Serbian references.  I've mentioned several times that you should not have 8 references for one sentence.  GoingBatty (talk) 14:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

cite document
Applause for pointing to documents that are not online. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 14:56, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I get frustrated seeing errors that I don't know how to fix, and hope we come to a good conclusion.  GoingBatty (talk) 15:03, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

you are appreciated //**
GoingBatty THANK YOU. You are incredible.

I am completely humbled by your talent and impressed with your work. Not enough people in this world take the time to appreciate; I do. THANK YOU, Mercy, Merci, Xiexie, Danke, Tak, in every language.

The work that you do is inspiring to me (which means it is inspiring to others).

My area of interest is women in technology, supply chain, fashion, technology, American muscle cars, stock car racing, privacy, more, and the history of those. I found your bot (@BattyBot) on Elizabeth Jocelyn "Jake" Feinler's page and had to reach out to you. What interests me most is finding out from her if "Jake" was a name that was helpful to her career because it was a masculine nickname...

Anywho, that's all for now. YOU ARE APPRECIATED Ogmlo (talk) 21:58, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * godspeed, ogmlo
 * Thank you! I don't know anything about Feinler or her nickname.  If the answer isn't in the sources, you could try asking on the article talk page.  GoingBatty (talk) 22:28, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Dearest , You're welcome. The compliment was very well deserved indeed. I appreciate your technical prowess. We've learned that it's best to be social with the living and find out directly from their experience. May I ask how to add conversation notes & photos of live human interaction? FWIW not questioning the foundations of this community church, but we are trying to bridge the generational divide by adding knowledge of Online and Offline history in the making... Your reply will be helpful. NOTE: We are arranging a conversation with her to find out in-person defined as virtually to discuss, which will most likely be a talk because hero's at her age, do not necessarily participate in Zoom, Teams nor Meet. Yours Truly, Ogmlo (talk) 23:56, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I think you're asking how to use a conversation as a reference. On Wikipedia, all references have to be published by reliable sources for verifiability purposes.  Presuming that an information scientist may not be able to use virtual meeting tools after two years of COVID restrictions comes off as ageism.  GoingBatty (talk) 00:10, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, dearly & clearly, Mr. Wonderful. The references provided will be reviewed in due time. As to the insinuation that ageism exists, that is relative. Our people are good friends with Richard Petty and we can tell you for certain he doesn't have a mobile. There may be 15 billion mobile devices on Earth, but he doesn't own one. Currently listening to What Kind of Woman is This? by Buddy Guy, you should listen too //** Happy Friday (not UTC #timezones) Ogmlo (talk) 00:27, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

>>>never subtle

ps. ; she can help you. ##Page 312, 5:3 ECB | PoC || GTFO
 * I reviewed Draft:Roxy Starr for you and left some comments for you. Be sure to declare your conflict of interest on your user page before resubmitting.  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 22:39, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

pps. let's push forward together with current "supply chain" updates. How do we get this reviewed? User:GoingBatty Thank you, Ogmlo (talk) 00:14, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Another user already accepted the draft in December, so the draft redirects to the article The Supply Chain Resilience Initiative. GoingBatty (talk) 00:18, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

ah-ha! it is Friday! We really need to help this Church have refresh without Ctrl+R. my mistake, time got me again. Thank you, GoingBatty! signed, // Ogmlo (talk) 00:36, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Removing last=Editors broke a harv citation link
In Special:Diff/1068583045, the generic "Editors" author name was necessary in the citation, in order to make the harv link link correctly. Your bot broke the harv link. It should not be breaking things in order to make cleanups that are, in this case, not actually cleanups. I do not actually know how the authors are recorded in the original Polish for this citation, because I know the citation only through a 2004 English translation, available at. That translation gives the authors as "Hugo Steinhaus and others"; an intelligent human, trying to fix this citation, would possibly have used that instead of "Editors". Your bot is obviously not intelligent enough to do that, but more importantly, it is not intelligent enough to recognize when it is making citations worse instead of better. Maybe it should leave well enough alone in cases like this. —David Eppstein (talk) 08:12, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Same problem here. DuncanHill (talk) 14:09, 29 January 2022 (UTC)


 * A more straightforward problem is that the bot is adding articles to Category:CS1 errors: missing name because this sort of fix needs also to change author2 to author1 (and 3 to 2 etc). (It could perhaps skip pages with sfn and harv, which a moderately intelligent human can take hours to fathom.) Oculi (talk) 14:14, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the feedback. I've turned off the bot while I'm investigating your concerns.
 * I have changed the bot to skip pages with sfn or harv templates in future runs, as suggested.
 * In the Material religion article, I manually changed "Editors" to "((Editors))" (as David did in Ham sandwich theorem) to remove the article from the error category.
 * The problem with the Silent preaching article is not straightforward, because the bot cannot determine whether to change author2 to author1 or editor2. The bot was only skipping when author2 immediately followed last1/first1, so now I've changed the bot to skip if author2 is found later in the same reference.  I looked at the book on Amazon, determined that they're both editors, and manually fixed the reference accordingly.
 * Thanks again! GoingBatty (talk) 16:04, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

A request
Please can you watchlist Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors? Then you will be able to see all the articles your bot is adding to it, and follow along and fix these errors. I'm getting rather bored of doing it for you. Thanks. DuncanHill (talk) 14:12, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I've never watchlisted a category before. The ability to see pages as they're added to a category sounds cool!  I went to Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors, clicked the star to add it to my watchlist, refreshed my watchlist, and...nothing.  So I went into my watchlist filters and checked Category changes and WOW!  I found those articles where BattyBot introduced an error that you haven't already fixed, and manually fixed them.   I've set up BattyBot's watchlist to watch this category, and will keep an eye on it as BattyBot is running.  Thanks for the suggestion!  GoingBatty (talk) 16:47, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I added Category:CS1 errors: generic name to BattyBot's watchlist, but don't see any results after editing a couple articles. When I add it to my own watchlist, I see the edits BattyBot just made.    GoingBatty (talk) 17:00, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * (e/c) Many thanks, and sorry that I sounded a bit grumpy before. I don't think many people know about watchlisting categories to see additions and removals from them - it wasn't possible when I started out on Wikipedia. DuncanHill (talk) 17:04, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No worries. I want my bot to make things better, not worse.  Thanks for cleaning up my messes.  I found that I can display two of my own watchlists: One without category changes and one with category changes.  While I'm running BattyBot, I'll check the category changes periodically to see if its adding articles to new error categories, and use that to tweak my bot and completely manually fix the articles.  Thanks again!  GoingBatty (talk) 17:10, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * On the same topic you could add Category:CS1 errors: explicit use of et al. to your watchlist, and indeed I expect a tweak of the code could sort this. You need either |display-editors=etal or |display-authors=etal. Oculi (talk) 19:10, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I think you're suggesting my bot could also clean up this category, and you're not saying that my bot added any pages to this category. I still need to cleanup all the instances where the bot added an article to Category:CS1 errors: missing name before I do anything new.  Thanks for the suggestion!  GoingBatty (talk) 19:17, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like the category is already cleared, but I'll keep an eye on it and see how I can help. GoingBatty (talk) 18:08, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, your bot did add a few, but that is an easily manageable error category unlike the sfn one (or the missing name one). Oculi (talk) 18:56, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I used your watchlist suggestion to go back 30 days and revert each BattyBot that added the article to Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors. I ran each article through BattyBot again to confirm that it either skipped the article or only made fixes that didn't readd the category.  Thanks again!  GoingBatty (talk) 22:25, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * And thank you - both for your response to my request, and for your work fixing ref errors. Sometimes I feel like there are only about half-a-dozen of us who actually look at references to see if they work and say what they are meant to, so it's a pleasure to meet another! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DuncanHill (talk • contribs) 23:22, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi please help
Hi User:GoingBatty I am a new user and I am trying to redirect Charity Shop Sue to Shane Meadows can you please do this for me as I am not sure. Thanks Linda Binson (talk) 03:07, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Charity Shop Sue says that it has been protected, so you and I cannot recreate it. I suggest you contact the administrator who protected the page.  Good luck!  GoingBatty (talk) 03:20, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Tressa Silguero
Hello, GoingBatty. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Tressa Silguero, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 00:01, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Empty sections, again
Does the bot task know that a section is empty if it contains only empty bullet points? I'm working through some of these by hand, eg Special:Diff/1069437668. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:25, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It does now like - thanks for the suggestion!  GoingBatty (talk) 15:12, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

User:BattyBot blanked a page
Specifically: this edit on Sawah Ring. No edit summary was given, so I'm not sure what the bot was supposed to do on that page. &mdash;Mainframe98 talk 17:28, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reverting that edit. I reran the bot over the article and it successfully removed the empty See also section.  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 20:25, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

2022 Pro Bowl Logo
Well I Tried to upload the 2022 Pro bowl logo and it did not work out i have bad luck uploading Logos. 98.186.54.177 (talk) 03:32, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * to 2022 Pro Bowl is tagged "missing file added". What was the exact process you used to upload the logo before this edit?  GoingBatty (talk) 04:48, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for answering my question about how to eventually publish my page, The Actors' Group. I will try to declare my COI. In addition to being the president of the theater, I am its historian, so the logical person to do this, and frankly, no one else will really take the time to do. The photo of myself is a screen shot of my photo as every time I tried to upload it I couldn't. I'm not sure why. I mean, it's my head shot, and, I have the permission of a number of other members of our theater to use their head shots. So at this point I'm experimenting with putting images, but I'm perplexed about why things are being accepted. I'm aware of the COI and how it will impact the writing, so given that, I will be mindful of being as truthful as possible. But there are certain things that involve me that are pure fact. I mean, I did found the theater and have always been a part of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enemoto (talk • contribs) 21:13, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Per WP:5P2: "All articles must strive for verifiable accuracy, citing reliable, authoritative sources.... Editors' personal experiences, interpretations, or opinions do not belong on Wikipedia." Anything in your draft based on your memories should be removed before you submit the draft, even if you know the statements are pure fact.  If your draft becomes an article, you will not be allowed to edit it due to your COI, but you will be able to make suggestions on the article's talk page.  GoingBatty (talk) 21:30, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

BattyBot added an unexpected "." on its own line
See this edit. I don't see any reason why it needed to add the "." after DVD; I think that would be a bug? --Pokechu22 (talk) 22:39, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * One of AWB's general fixes is to fix the layout of items in an article. In this case, AWB moved the "." from after the stub tag to above the categories.  Thanks for editing the article to delete it.  GoingBatty (talk) 22:43, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Hey, can you review Starscixn Article is good or not?

Abcfriends (talk) 07:51, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like the article has been nominated for speedy deletion. It appears that there are not multiple independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage of the musician, and it's not clear how he meets Wikipedia's notability criteria for musicians.  GoingBatty (talk) 16:31, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

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list of books with articles lacking a cover/jacket illustration
This is the link you asked for, GoingBatty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_photographs_of_publications. (Anne.erickson (talk) 17:56, 5 February 2022 (UTC))
 * Thanks for the link. Your question was answered - see Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1141.  GoingBatty (talk) 18:00, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Make a Difference Foundation Submission
Hi GoingBatty,

You recently commented on this AfC Draft: Make a Difference Foundation that For example, the "Funding" section has no independent reliable sources..

As you said "for example" - which of the other sources do you believe to be not independent or reliable, and why?

I am reviewing the Funding section so that further references can be made. I hope that I can better understand your other points so that I can improve on the AfC.

Kind regards,D.C. at MAD Foundation Inc. (talk) 01:24, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The "Funding" section has one reference: the "MAD Foundation 2020-21 Annual Report". Any publications created by MAD are not independent.  GoingBatty (talk) 01:30, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi GoingBatty,

It is within Wikipedia guidelines to include references which are not independent. Anecdotally, I tested this out by going to Facebook's Wikipedia page. The first few references are all from Facebook's website itself. Where is the difference here? I am not attacking your point, I'm just wanting to clarify why the references - if used in a declarative and impartial way - cannot be included?

Kind regards, D.C. at MAD Foundation Inc. (talk) 04:44, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't say you can't use the report as a reference. Your goal is to demonstrate that MAD meets Wikipedia's notability guideline for organizations, and that requires that the draft contains "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".  The concern I stated is that you have a lot of information in the "Funding" section that is not referenced, and it would be preferable to use independent sources for it.  The Facebook article has over 600 references, most of which are independent sources, so it's OK to have a few self-published sources for the statistics in the infobox.  GoingBatty (talk) 05:06, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi GoingBatty,

Thanks for clarifying. I hope to include more references soon.

D.C. at MAD Foundation Inc. (talk) 05:21, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

thanks
I’ve really been focusing on 2022 in LGBT Rights and I appreciate your edits. LinuxNCats (talk) 20:08, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * My pleasure! I just made a few more tweaks.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 20:17, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you
For typo corrections and other fixes in Footwork (genre) DJ Alla Dean (talk) 22:07, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * My pleasure! I just made a few more tweaks. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:39, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:AFC Helper News
Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest. Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
 * The template db-afc-move has been created - this template is similar to db-move when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Draft:Best Practice of Technology Commercialisation Programs at GCC and USA Universities‎
Hello, I hope you are well

When I publish an article on Wikipedia, it stays next to the article name (Draft). how can I edit it to just the name of the article without the word "draft"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahmoud W. 2001 (talk • contribs) 18:58, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * When you're ready to have the draft reviewed, add to the top.  A reviewer will then determine whether your draft is ready to become an article.  As of now, the draft probably wouldn't be accepted, as it does not yet seem to meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for books.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 20:35, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Lambert_(automobile)
Here is what the GA reviewer replied -> ''@Doug Coldwell: ^ Have you seen this comment? ^ What I want is columns for model name, cost, weight, wheelbase, gauge, brief description and other details not in other columns and image. Steelkamp (talk) 16:19, 17 February 2022 (UTC)'' Is that something that can be done. If so, could you get me started and I will see if I can carry it on through to complete the table. Thanks a bunch.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:25, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I've added the columns, and reformatted the photos. You can use the VisualEditor to copy/cut information from the "Description" column, and paste it into the other columns.  GoingBatty (talk) 18:55, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I do believe that will work. I will carry it on from here. I have started. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:58, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The table came out real pretty. Thanks for your help in getting me started on it.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:04, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * My pleasure! Did you need help with a table for the "Lambert trucks" section too?  GoingBatty (talk) 21:07, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * No. It looks good that way it's at, I do believe. Thanks for offer. You are an excellent editor in knowing things like what you helped me on. Thanks again. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:14, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

BetterThings641 and Kessler Foundation
GoingBatty, sorry for the mixup. I am not getting paid for these changes. I know a lot about Kessler Foundation and that some of the information that is cited now is incorrect, so I was trying to update it. I am in the disability field and I know what is being done at Kessler Foundation. It has grown considerably since the past 10 years that the wikipedia page has been updated. For example, under the PROGRAM section, those 2 programs are no longer happening there. Plus, there is a new Center for Autism Research that is being launched this month. BetterThings641 (talk) 22:49, 18 February 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BetterThings641 (talk • contribs)

<GoingBatty> Unfortunately I do not understand the ins and outs of Wikipedia editing. I am a novice at it. But, I am a researcher and ally of the disability and rehabilitation field, attend conferences and presentations concerning Kessler Foundation and other industry nonprofits like Dana and Christopher Reeve Foundation, University of New Hampshire Disability division, etc. I read all press releases via EurekAlert for these types of organizations, which is why I am up to date on changes in the field.BetterThings641 (talk) 23:08, 18 February 2022 (UTC).

Hi
Hi. I just wanted to say hi since we just crossed paths. Cwater1 (talk) 23:47, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there! Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 23:49, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Happy editing to you too! Cwater1 (talk) 23:52, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Features for new users coming soon (and mentors, like you, wanted!)
Hello. As you're currently listed as a host at the Teahouse, I wanted to make sure you're aware of the imminent rollout of new Growth  Team Features which every new account will be getting by default. Each users will soon see a new 'Homepage' tab next to their User  page. It contains two main elements which might impact on your involvement - and you'd be welcome to get  involved and help out directly with one of them. To spread the load on our current list of around 65 mentors, I'm reaching out to ask if you'd like to help out and sign up as one? The workload is relatively small; User  reports receiving four questions a month, on average, all of  which were simple ones of the type we already get at the Teahouse, whilst I've had just one in the last 3 weeks. To view a list of every question asked of all mentors over the last 14 days,  click here. If becoming a mentor and being available to help new users on their first few days here interests you - just as have done at the Teahouse in the past - then please consider signing up at Growth Team  features/Mentor list. But please only do so if you are genuinely willing to be available to help. Existing users can already 'opt-in' to seeing the Newcomer Homepage features via their  Preferences. Thank you! Nick Moyes (talk) 11:42, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Firstly, they will be offered a range of 'suggested edits', and encouraged to make simple improvements to pages that interest them. (Being  aware of this feature would be helpful for all Teahouse hosts if you're  likely to offer advice on tasks for them to start out doing.)
 * There's also a 'Your impact' box to show them how many people have seen the pages they've just edited.
 * Finally, each new user is randomly assigned a 'mentor' from a list of friendly, experienced editors, like yourself. If they get stuck, they can  ask a question directly to them via a Your mentor box, and hopefully get a swift, friendly answer from that mentor.   Currently, this feature is given to 2% of new users, but it's set to  increase to around 10% in the very near future.
 * Signed up - thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 14:01, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Question from Iso2022 on List of Jurisdictions of the Church of God in Christ (17:52, 25 February 2022)
Greetings dear Bishop Corby Bush how are you ,your health and the family there? I am Pastor Esayas Yacob from Ethiopia Somalia mission work. I wanted to talk you and to shares necessary mission Issues if it is possible and if I can find your personal address. Please contact me throughout my email esayasyacob@gmail.com --Iso2022 (talk) 17:52, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not "Bishop Corby Bush", and have not edited the Wikipedia article List of Jurisdictions of the Church of God in Christ. GoingBatty (talk) 18:01, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Small fix on the header of your bot's talk page
Hello, could you update User talk:BattyBot to say that it's archived by lowercase sigmabot III, rather than MiszaBot III? I'd do it myself but I don't want to stop the bot from editing. Thanks! Graham 87 08:34, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅! I see that I made the change here in January 2016.  Sorry for not updating BattyBot's user talk page at the same time.  GoingBatty (talk) 13:54, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestion
Dear GoingBatty,

Thank you for the catch and for the suggestion! I understand I should not make my own changes. So can I authorize you to do it, or should I reach out to someone else?

Gib Gibson Armstrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by GibsonArmstrong (talk • contribs) 15:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there! As stated at the Teahouse today (and last month), you may submit an edit request on Talk:Gibson C. Armstrong with the request edit template. See Edit requests for more information.  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 15:54, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Can you help?
I’m not bothered to make an account so I can’t move/rename wiki pages, so could you move(Rename) the page titled/names Odran to Odhrán & I think it’s a disambiguation page so idk if it needs to be moved to another disambiguation or to an artical page, if it’s not too much hassle(I’m only asking cause you were last person who edited its talk page(?)) Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.173.101 (talk) 78.16.173.101 (talk) 20:58, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅! GoingBatty (talk) 21:04, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:58, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * GoingBatty (talk) 22:00, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Patience
Your bot (Battybot) tagged a page as orphaned while I was still in the process of creating the links having just created the page. You may want to give it a few minutes after page creation before calling it.<em style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color:red">  &#9749;  Antiqueight  chatter 20:12, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there! I presume you're referring to Kathleen Isabella Mackie.  The goal of the bot was to fix the punctuation in the references to keep the maintenance category low.  Tagging it as an orphan was one of many general fixes that it also makes, but not its goal.  (I have another bot task to remove the orphan tag from articles.)  I can run this bot task less often.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 20:40, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Sivert Bakken
Hi! Thanks for giving me feedback on my draft earlier. I think I've improved it but I was wondering if I need more secondary sources - I've seen biathlon pages with less sources than I have, but I still would like to make sure. Thanks again so much!! <b style="color:#318CE7">Réunion</b><b style="color:#ED2939"> (stylised)</b> - (<b style="color:#6AB073">talk to me</b>) 06:30, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there! Before giving the earlier feedback, I looked at Notability (sports).  Since there isn't a specific section for biathletes, WP:SPORTBASIC applies: "A person is presumed to be notable if they have been the subject of multiple published non-trivial secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject."
 * There are thousands of articles that don't meet the proper notability requirements, and you're welcome to improve them or nominate them for deletion. However, please do not compare your draft to poor articles - see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 17:42, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Help me
help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.180.56.111 (talk) 19:45, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there! How may I help you?  GoingBatty (talk) 19:46, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

I can't find my article Hook GEe (talk) 15:41, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Hook GEe on Article wizard/HowToDiscloseCOI (15:16, 22 March 2022)
How do I create my own article --Hook GEe (talk) 15:16, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there! WP:AUTO explains that Wikipedia strongly discourages autobiographies.  Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially when you have a conflict of interest (COI).  To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and The Wikipedia Adventure.  I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills.  When you're ready to create an article, you would gather independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of you, and determine whether you meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion of musicians, called "notability".  If so, you would declare your COI on your user page, and then follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created.  If you are successful, then you could never edit the article directly due to your COI, but could submit edit requests on the article's talk page.  Hope this helps.  GoingBatty (talk) 16:35, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Alright thanks Hook GEe (talk) 16:50, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Hook GEe on User talk:GoingBatty (17:29, 22 March 2022)
I want to edit my page --Hook GEe (talk) 17:29, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The message on User talk:Hook GEe states that your user page was deleted once already because your user page is not a place to write an encyclopedia article about yourself - see User pages for more details. GoingBatty (talk) 17:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Adraint Bereal
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If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 05:57, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Seeking further assistance
I am sorry to bother you I went to the link about uploading a non-free image whenever I click on it it just reloads the page it doesn't give me an option to actually upload anything is that normal?CanadianHistorian(MMA &#38; History) (talk) 04:16, 25 March 2022 (UTC)


 * @CanadianHistorian(MMA & History) I have no issues going to File Upload Wizard and clicking the "Upload a non-free file". Try clearing your cache.  Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 04:22, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

I was able to figure everything out it just doesn't work on mobile that is all!!! Thanks againCanadianHistorian(MMA &#38; History) (talk) 04:24, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

I take it back I still need help. I was trying to upload the image incorrectly so many times I guess somebody put it on some kind of blacklist it said that I had to edit that and remove it but I don't know where to find that section. I am really sorry to ask for help againCanadianHistorian(MMA &#38; History) (talk) 04:35, 25 March 2022 (UTC)


 * @CanadianHistorian(MMA & History) Where did you see the message? What was the exact message? GoingBatty (talk) 04:40, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

One sec I will try to upload the image again to get it. It was for Bacchus MC I tried to upload it and it said something about a blacklist one second CanadianHistorian(MMA &#38; History) (talk) 04:41, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

It seems to have worked this time I don't know what that message was it was the first time I had seen something like it either. And sorry for the bother and I really do appreciate it!CanadianHistorian(MMA &#38; History) (talk) 04:50, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Request for block/ban of hostile, hateful and disrespectful user and vandal.
Persistent vandalism with insults, clearly hostile, disrespectful, insulting, hateful and unacceptable behaviour towards users, also possible anti-Japanese sentiment. Request for permanent block and ban of IP address of 2603:301b:98:f000:61a0:6cfe:1d46:bbb4 and 2600:387:0:80d::71, clearly both the same user. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.36.29.229 (talk) 07:24, 25 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there! I am not an administrator, so I cannot block or ban IP addresses.  Please see Administrator intervention against vandalism. GoingBatty (talk) 12:37, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Removing headline= in Template:Track listing
Hi GoingBatty. As I pointed out in my revert summary, headline= is a requirement in Template:Track listing per its documentation (this was introduced in 2020). MOS:TABLECAPTION applies too, as it is a table, and there was a Wikipedia-wide consensus at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Accessibility/Archive 15 that also took place in 2020. It was raised there that in instances like this it just repeats information from the section header and is clear even to visually impaired readers who use screen readers, but it was still found to be a requirement and that redundancy should ultimately not cancel out its inclusion. I disagreed at the time but there was consensus from a great number of users so I'm following that.  Ss  112   10:04, 25 March 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ss112 Thank you for sharing this information with me. I had never seen a redundant caption before, and did not know there was a requirement for it.  I just changed Template:Track listing/doc to match the actual track listing at The Beatles (album). GoingBatty (talk) 12:50, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from ShelaghAMason (07:29, 5 April 2022)
Good morning

I created an article, but it comes up with my sandbox name and not what I want the title to be (Seame) - which is a volumetric measure of grain in the UK. Help!

Shelagh Mason --ShelaghAMason (talk) 07:29, 5 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @ShelaghAMason Hi there! I see your creation at User:ShelaghAMason/sandbox.  Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you don't have a lot of experience editing Wikipedia before.  To learn how to edit, I recommend Help:Introduction and The Wikipedia Adventure.  I also suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills.  Once you're ready to create an article, you would gather several independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of the subject, and determine whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability".  If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created.
 * My specific feedback for User:ShelaghAMason/sandbox is that it currently seems to be more of a dictionary definition suitable for Wiktionary than an encyclopedia article for Wikipedia. Your writing should be in complete sentences, and have multiple references showing the definition and usage of "seame".  I made an edit to your sandbox for you.
 * When you're ready to have your work reviewed, I suggest you move it to Draft:Seame, and then type  at the top.
 * Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:24, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Catwoman Hunted.jpg
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Question from Leon Konrad Müller (12:19, 8 April 2022)
Hey there, I am intrested in Esport infastructure, I want to create pages for the main actors in this segemnt. How is it possible for me to publish 5 new pages to all the competetors in this segement. --Leon Konrad Müller (talk) 12:19, 8 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @Leon Konrad Müller - Hi there! Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you do not have a lot of experience editing Wikipedia.  To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and The Wikipedia Adventure.  I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills.  Once you're ready to create an article, you would gather multiple independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of the competitors, and determine whether they meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability".  If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting, rejections, and rewrites, before your articles are approved.  Hope this helps, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 13:10, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey,
 * thank you for your fast response. I allready made a draft: Draft:Opportunity League
 * But then I will try to edit some other esport pages first. There are not so many, but the ESL (company) seems to be intresting and outdated too.
 * Will my draft be deleted while I am editing other articles? Or will it be stay there until I gained more expiience? Furthermore, what is your opinion on the draft? Is it fine to write short description of the competitors first and maybe go more in detail later. Are Aticles about Opportunity League, Toornament, ESL, Faceit, Battlefy and Challengermode event notable? Leon Konrad Müller (talk) 13:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Leon Konrad Müller - Drafts can be deleted if they are not updated after six months. I made some tweaks to your draft.  It seems that many of your sources are press releases, wikis, and social media - you'll need multiple independent reliable sources for the draft to be approved.  Articles about other organizations could be notable if you can find multiple independent reliable sources for them - see WP:ORGCRIT and WP:EVENTCRIT.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Poster House wikipedia edits
Hi GoingBatty!

I am the web manager for Poster House and we recently added more information to our Wiki page, including history of the building and the museum's mission statement, as well as our Collection. This seems to be a fairly standard and approved set-up for a museum's Wiki (for example, see the Jewish Museum's Wiki) and I was wondering why you removed most of the text that we added.

Thank you for helping us understand, and have a nice day!

Aar0ph (talk) 15:29, 8 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @Aar0ph Hi there! If you look carefully at the history of the article, you will see that I made some tweaks to the article in December. The user  reverted yesterday's edit by, stating in the edit summary that the addition was "Promotional, copyvio material".
 * Because you and PosterMonkey have a conflict of interest (COI), you must comply with WP:PAID and disclose your COI on your user pages. You may then post suggestions to improve the article on the article's talk page - Talk:Poster House - along with supporting independent, reliable sources, and another editor will help you.  You may also use the Edit Request Wizard if you prefer.  Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 15:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for your help! This is great for us to know and we will follow through on your suggestions. Cheers! Aar0ph (talk) 15:52, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for flagging this, @GoingBatty and nice to meet you, @Aar0ph. To Batty's excellent advise, I'd add that your colleague editing as PosterMonkey should probably change their name. It's not a complete username violation, but together with the content comes across as being here to promote the museum. We're happy to hear what reliable sources say about the museum (and personally, I adored the Tokyo Olympiad show), but cannot serve as a promotional vehicle for the museum itself. Happy to help you on the article's talk page or my own. Thanks again! Star   Mississippi  15:58, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

BattyBot removing commas from postscript parameter
With, BattyBot removed the trailing comma from.

I recognize that removing trailing commas from parameter values is desirable in most cases (indeed, the same edit correctly changed the mistaken https://citer.toolforge.org/citer.fcgi -generated  to  ).

However, removing the comma from  defeats the purpose of the postscript display option.

I have temporarily put a  HTML entity code in place, although this is undesirable as per the   instructions: Additional text or templates beyond the terminating punctuation may generate an error message. Since I have ".mw-parser-output span.cs1-maint {display: inline;}" included in my common.css file, it does indeed display a maintenance message. It also puts it in Category:CS1 maint: postscript.

Please fix this problem. Also, if you know of any satisfactory work-arounds to alleviate this problem until you resolve the problem, please let me know. Peaceray (talk) 18:06, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @Peaceray ! I apologize that the bot's regex was too greedy. It was not my intent to change the postscript parameter.  I've undone the recent edits to the Virginia Hall article and ran the fixed bot, and confirmed it now works correctly.  Thanks for letting me know about this issue! GoingBatty (talk) 18:28, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Thanks for this & all the work that you do! Peaceray (talk) 18:31, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Being Miswaaul Haque on CE (18:58, 14 April 2022)
Hi --Being Miswaaul Haque (talk) 18:58, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Being Miswaaul Haque on CE (19:00, 14 April 2022)
Hey all do you know how I'm if you know me give reply --Being Miswaaul Haque (talk) 19:00, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @Being Miswaaul Haque I do not understand your question. GoingBatty (talk) 19:06, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

My article which you have reviewed is being biased by new users
Hello Going Batty, The page that has been created by me is being attempted to be deleted by new user on English Wikipedia for some reasons. The article was already reviewed and confirmed by you when it was created. It is enriched with information that is backed up with reliable sources. Nonetheless, now it is under a speedy deletion note. Can you please check that and remove that note if possible?

Thank you Link to the article is below https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utkirbek_Kakhorov Film contributor (talk) 21:27, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there! The users who added the speedy delete templates to the Utkirbek Kakhorov article are not new users.  While I made some edits to the article, the article was not "reviewed and confirmed" by me.  I will not be reviewing the article, as I cannot read the references in Uzbek and Russian.  If you disagree with the given reason for deletion and believe the article meets Wikipedia's notability requirements, you may follow the instructions on the red template at the top of the article.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from PINNACLE DRAFTER (13:13, 15 April 2022)
hello, I would like to change my user name --PINNACLE DRAFTER (talk) 13:13, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @PINNACLE DRAFTER Hi there! You could follow the instructions at Changing username.  Or, you could just create a new account, and never use "PINNACLE DRAFTER" again.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 14:47, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

BPAT ‎investigations: still in progress?
‎I've moved some tasks we completed last year from WP:BPAT to its 2021 archive. Are any of your investigations there complete and ready to archive? Certes (talk) 22:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @Certes Hi there! I'm slowly completing them and moving them to the "Recently completed investigations" section.  When I complete one, it seems I find three more!  GoingBatty (talk) 02:05, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Certes I'm not going to work on the first few entries: Revolution to Peter Pan. I'll continue down the rest. GoingBatty (talk) 19:54, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Certes I'm all caught up on my BPAT investigations. I've moved everything I finished to "Recently completed investigations", and I moved anything I'm not going to do to "New investigation suggestions".  Thanks for the nudge! GoingBatty (talk) 23:47, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Adraint Bereal


Hello, GoingBatty. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Adraint Bereal".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:32, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I didn't create the page. I might have moved it from articlespace to draftspace, but I can't check the history now that it's been deleted.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 02:41, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Correct. This was mostly @Rlellis13's work which you moved from a sandbox. Star   Mississippi  02:53, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Star Mississippi Thanks! I knew it was someone else's work, but couldn't remember whose. GoingBatty (talk) 03:20, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * This happens fairly often. What occurs is that an experienced editor moves a page, creating a redirect at the old location. Then, another editor comes along and changes the redirect into an article. When the page is deleted, Twinkle looks to see who made the first edit to the page which is the editor who created the redirect, not the editor who created the article. Limitations of the editing tool, I guess. Sorry for the misplaced message. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 04:48, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from WebsterSyca (03:10, 25 April 2022)
Hello, I'm sorry to be a bother. I was wondering if there is a forum I could go to recommend the creation of a new article? I know I could eventually do it myself, but I am worried I will forget about it again before I have the skills to do so. --WebsterSyca (talk) 03:10, 25 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @WebsterSyca You could try Requested articles, but there's no guarantee that anyone would ever create the article. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:16, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! At the very least, if no one reads my request, I will have the idea saved under my account as a post. WebsterSyca (talk) 03:25, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from HASMUKH NAKRANI (07:23, 30 April 2022)
hi how can we add References ? --HASMUKH NAKRANI (talk) 07:24, 30 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @HASMUKH NAKRANI Hi there! See WP:EASYREFBEGIN.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:33, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

BattyBot
Hi GoingBatty. BattyBot edited Affordable housing in Canada yesterday causing a no target error. As "nd" is not the same as from "n.d.", and so the link with the sfn templates was broken. Also the bot states that it's fixing a CS1 error, but this isn't a situation that causes a CS1 error. Nor can I see where this type of change is covered under the bots approval. Is this change meant to be part of BattyBot's normal operation? - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 10:40, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @ActivelyDisinterested Hi there! Thank you for letting me know about this issue.
 * Before my bot edited Affordable housing in Canada, the article looked like this. The CS1 date error is 25 May 2022 (a future date) of the Moore & Skaburskis citation.  That is not something the bot can fix, so the bot should have skipped the article.  However, my bot incorrectly considered nd of the National Housing Strategy citation as something that needed to be fixed, which caused the problem. Therefore, I have changed my bot's rules to avoid changing nd in the future.
 * Note that the bot approval contains examples of the types of changes that the bot makes. You can see the complete list of changes at User:BattyBot/CS1 errors-dates.
 * Looking carefully at the references in that article, I made some manual updates. I also have some questions:
 * The "Report of the Special Rapporteur" reference contains C. How should that be manually fixed?  It seems like it's sorted under "O" to represent "OHCHR", as the report is posted on ohchr.org, but the report doesn't seem to mention the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights.
 * Why is the "About HSC" sorted under "S" instead of "H"?
 * Why is "The Economist" reference sorted under "T" instead of "E"? (Similar question with "The Poverty and Human Rights Centre" reference)
 * Thanks again, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 14:46, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I think most of your questions wouldmbe better asked of Oceanflynn, who appears to be undertaking an overhaul of the article. I was just aware of the article due to the no target errors, I've been trying bto clear some of them down. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 15:53, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Please see my questions above regarding the references in the Affordable housing in Canada article. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 13:35, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * First of all, thanks so much GoingBatty and for the work you do with bots. The answer to all of your questions is mainly human error. I try to fix my own errors manually but of course, I miss a lot. As your bots locate errors that need a manual clean-up, I can do that easily if you draw my attention to them in the relevant article's talk page, with reminders of recurrent protocol errors. I keep track of references with Zotero and Roam Research so I can easily find the fields. I can't promise I won't continue to make mistakes.Oceanflynn (talk) 19:13, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Never worry about it, the article writing is the hard part. There will always be enough wikignomes around dealing with other issues. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 19:56, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I second that emotion. Great job with the article - keep up the good work!  GoingBatty (talk) 04:18, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Horror film
Dear GoingBatty can you restore the 2010s section and the 2020s for the horror film article? 74.115.140.141 (talk) 12:39, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * There is already a section called "2010s to present". Feel free to make a more specific request on the article talk page: Talk:Horror film. GoingBatty (talk) 12:48, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * They can't, they're evading a block. See Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Jinnifer. MrOllie (talk) 13:07, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @MrOllie This IP doesn't appear to be part of this category. GoingBatty (talk) 13:10, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * IPs usually aren't. But recruiting proxy editors to edit sections on that article is most of what this sockmaster does. MrOllie (talk) 13:12, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Add yourself to this list?
WikiProject Scouting/Members/delivery --evrik (talk) 02:14, 8 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Evrik ✅! Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:37, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Scouting Newsletter: May 2022
--evrik (talk)

Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:10, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from CarterKSS on Category:Bataan Death March prisoners (02:59, 9 May 2022)
Hi, Betty I would like to add the following to the list of prisoners at Bataan Death March. He died in the prison camp.

Thomas Grafton Karg --CarterKSS (talk) 02:59, 9 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @CarterKSS Hi there! Each Wikipedia category is a list of Wikipedia articles.  You would have to write an article about Karg, and then add the category to the article.  Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you do not have a lot of experience editing Wikipedia.  To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and The Wikipedia Adventure.  I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills.  Once you're ready to create an article, you would gather multiple independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of the subject, and determine whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability".  If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created.  Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 12:43, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from Thegujjuwikipedian (06:14, 10 May 2022)
Hello Mentor! Since I am new to this wiki world, Please suggest what is the best practice to follow (Things to do regularly)? --Thegujjuwikipedian (talk) 06:14, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Thegujjuwikipedian Welcome to Wikipedia! To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and The Wikipedia Adventure.  To find articles to work on, you could visit Task Center.  Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:39, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Response
Thank you for answering! Jkma31 (talk) 14:55, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

font of edit window
Hi. Is it just me, or the font of edit window (general edit window, like this one) has changed for you as well? —usernamekiran (talk) 15:57, 18 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Usernamekiran I have seen no change in the font of the edit window. I edit using the current Google Chrome version on a PC with the skin in my preferences set to "Vector legacy (2010)".  I skimmed the current conversations at WP:VP/T, WP:Help desk, and WP:Teahouse, and didn't see anyone else reporting this issue.  Once in a while, I accidentally change my browser's zoom from 100% to something else, and then have to change it back.  Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 16:03, 18 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I am using Firefox, with monobook skin, and in preferences, I have set the font to monospace. I just remembered, I updated my firefox. The font is still monospace, but it looks a little thicker, not exactly bold, but a little thicker than usual. It is definitely because of the firefox update. But the font in "edit summary" section is the same as usual. Here is a screenshot (imgur). —usernamekiran (talk) 16:30, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Tomoharu_Ushida
Hi, thank you for editing my draft, Draft:Tomoharu_Ushida. Recently my draft has been declined. I need your help to make it better to be a official wikipedia page. I appreciate to your attention. Shalom777br (talk) 19:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Shalom777br Please carefully read the notice at the top of your draft, and click on the words "secondary" and "independent" to read more about that types of references you should look for. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:26, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. For example, I want to add this page. How do you think?
 * https://www.gramophone.co.uk/blogs/article/the-chopin-piano-competition-day-eight-what-s-in-a-name Shalom777br (talk) 20:33, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Shalom777br The bottom of the article states "Gramophone is a Media Partner of the 18th Chopin Piano Competition", which makes me think that they're trying to promote the competition, and by extension, promote Ushida - and I don't think that's independent. GoingBatty (talk) 20:39, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your advice! Shalom777br (talk) 20:56, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * And how about this one?
 * https://www.tokyohive.com/article/2012/02/12-year-old-pianist-ushida-tomoharu-to-make-his-cd-debut Shalom777br (talk) 22:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Shalom777br I'm not familiar with tokyohive.com. This article is labeled as "Music Releases" (instead of "News"), which makes me wonder if this is a press release.  You could ask at the Reliable sources/Noticeboard if you like. GoingBatty (talk) 14:19, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. I understand the sources should be familiar. Shalom777br (talk) 14:51, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * https://neige1984.blogspot.com/2019/11/2018-hamamatsu-competition-finalist-top_74.html Shalom777br (talk) 22:26, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Shalom777br - WP:RSSELF states "Content from websites whose content is largely user-generated is generally unacceptable. Sites with user-generated content include personal websites, personal and group blogs..." and "Never use self-published sources as independent sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer." GoingBatty (talk) 14:24, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply… so, don’t you have how you help me about this issue? Shalom777br (talk) 14:53, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Shalom777br Sorry - I don't understand your question. GoingBatty (talk) 15:07, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I need some help, but I am a new user here, so I don’t know how to write articles. Once my article has been declined, if I don’t have anything else to do, it will be deleted.. Do you have anything to help me? Shalom777br (talk) 16:03, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Shalom777br - I don't have any references for you, but maybe the editors at WP:WikiProject Classical music or WP:WikiProject Japan could help. Looking at your edits, it seems your sole focus here is to publish an article about Ushida.  What is your relationship with Ushida? GoingBatty (talk) 16:14, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your advice. I will ask help those who write there. I have never even met him once. One of the reasons I tried to write an article about him was because I watched a live broadcast of the Chopin International Piano Competition half a year ago. I really liked Ushida’s performance. I used to play the piano, but I quit. My favorite composers are Chopin and Brahms. I often use Wikipedia, so I thought I would like to contribute in some way. He was eliminated in the second round, but I was surprised to see the video about his perfomance that Chopin Institute uploaded on YouTube. It has more than 800,000 views. I felt his potential and thought he would become popular. So I searched online, but there was almost nothing about him. So I decided to write an article about him. Shalom777br (talk) 18:54, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, do you remember me? How about this one? He played at Brussels in 2019.
 * https://www.be.emb-japan.go.jp/itpr_en/culture_archive2019_other.html
 * https://www.brusselspianofestival.com/photos-piano-brussels-2019/ Shalom777br (talk) 18:02, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from PatrickDahWoo (19:04, 18 May 2022)
Hello, When will the "move" tab show up for new accounts? I've noticed that new users can't move pages. Thank you. --PatrickDahWoo (talk) 19:04, 18 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @PatrickDahWoo - When the accounts are at least 4 days old and have made at least 10 edits - see WP:AUTOCONFIRM. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 19:09, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok Thank you Sir.PatrickDahWoo (talk) 19:12, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Question (again)
Could you move(/rename) the article page "Scottish Gaelic phonology and orthography" to "Scottish Gaelic phonology"? please 78.16.141.72 (talk) 23:16, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there! I suggest you go to Talk:Scottish Gaelic phonology and orthography and start a discussion explaining why you think the page should be moved.  Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 17:06, 22 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I realised I should have after publishing but it was to late so I was just going to wait for your reply, Thanks again anyway :) 78.16.141.72 (talk) 17:48, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Magic edit
Not sure what tool is this to use for this edit at every references and. But can you also do at Rebecca Chambers, for preparation at GAN. Ty! BloatedBun (talk) 14:13, 23 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @BloatedBun - ✅! Click on the word "script" in the edit summary to learn more about the tool. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 14:17, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I need to check this tomorrow. Thank you for the tips! Very much appreciate your help. BloatedBun (talk) 14:21, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Its hard for me to figure out. Can you also do at these 2 articles Leon S. Kennedy and Chris Redfield. Some of them are missing authors and dates. These will be my last req. Thanks again! BloatedBun (talk) 22:31, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @BloatedBun - ✅! GoingBatty (talk) 23:42, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Added Website or Publisher as you suggested
Hi GoingBatty Good evening sir, i added website or publisher to the page Rashida Bello as you suggested when i asked why it has not been reviewed, thanks for your suggestion and would appreciate if the page got reviewed as i work in contributing significantly on the encyclopia.

Best regards!!!! Dorathy Nnaji (talk) 16:56, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Dorathy Nnaji Hi there! I am not a member of the New pages patrol.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:18, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from Rachk88 (17:54, 24 May 2022)
Can I add to Wikipedia --Rachk88 (talk) 17:54, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Rachk88 It depends on what you want to add and where you want to add it. To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and The Wikipedia Adventure.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 18:02, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from NARJAMS (15:54, 24 May 2022)
Hey there! I'm really enjoying giving back to the Wikipedia community, but I need some help with how to improve the tone of articles. In particular, the page for Ana Locking stumped me, as it seems to be very factual, yet it is labelled as having content written like an advertisement. It would be fantastic if you could take a look at that page and tell me what I should be looking for. Thanks! --NARJAMS (talk) 15:54, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @NARJAMS Hi there! I suggest posting on Talk:Ana Locking and asking  why they added the advert tag.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 17:16, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! NARJAMS (talk) 14:15, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from HTMSThonburi (23:44, 25 May 2022)
I accidentally forgot to log onto my Wikipedia account and my IP was shown. This may sound dumb but what can somebody do with it? --HTMSThonburi (talk) 23:44, 25 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @HTMSThonburi Hi there! Accidentally editing without logging in happens to the best of us.  I hope IP edits are not anonymous answers your question.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 23:49, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Non-existing stub template
FYI, my bot fixed it for you. You should probably fix your AWB script. Thanks! Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:39, 26 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Plastikspork - Thank you for fixing my mistake, and for letting me know about it. I have a bunch of rules in my script to change stub categories to stub templates.  While most stub categories use the demonym and the country name for the stub template, I now know that "Greek" is an exception, so I've removed the rule from my script.  Thanks again, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 02:36, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Copyright question
I have uploaded scores of photos free from copyright, but I still get puzzled about how to mark them, and even if I should use them at all. Here's my latest question: Photo is from Newspapers.com, originally published on June 8, 1946, in the ''St. Louis Globe-Democrat. There is no copyright notice referring to the photo or, indeed, in the entire newspaper.'' Can I use it, and what tag should I use? Can you help me 'cause I am confused, maybe because I have BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 23:06, 28 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @BeenAroundAWhile - I see you uploaded File:Newspaper photo of Laura Rand Orthwein as Veiled Prophet Queen 1959.jpeg which you may have gotten from this Newspapers.com image. At the bottom right of the Newspapers.com page, it states "Copyright © 2022 Newspapers.com" in tiny print.  I didn't read the whole newspaper to see if there is a copyright notice.  I'm far from an expert on copyright laws.  I believe I've only uploaded photos I've taken or images that fall within fair use such as covers of books/CDs/movies.  You may want to ask at Media copyright questions and provide a link to the specific image you're asking about.  Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:18, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, *gulp*! I've never heard of Newspapers.com being able to copyright an image that is itself out of copyright. WP is filled with takes from that source. Thanks for opening a can of worms. Nice, fat squiggly worms. Best wishes, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 02:33, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Here's more on that: Newspapers.com. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 02:35, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @BeenAroundAWhile - Thanks for sharing! It would be nice for someone to add the answer to your question to that page. GoingBatty (talk) 02:40, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from Zabikn7 (11:57, 30 May 2022)
Hello coach, I want you to help me complete this draft. Edit this draft for me and turn it into groceries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Zabihollah_Kohkan --Zabikn7 (talk) 11:57, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Zabikn7 - Hi there! I made some edits for you (and redirected Draft:Zabihollah kohkan to Draft:Zabihollah Kohkan), but I'm not going to be able to turn your draft into "groceries" or an article.  Instead of providing a link to a Google search, I suggest you provide specific references from magazine or news articles that provide significant coverage of Kohkan's senior career.  Also, is Kohkan a forward or winger?  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 14:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Winger Zabikn7 (talk) 14:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Zabikn7 - Great! You can update your draft by replacing each instance of "forward" with "winger". GoingBatty (talk) 14:33, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I can provide you with these links to magazines and news articles from Kohkan and you can do the necessary edits. Zabikn7 (talk) 14:35, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Zabikn7 You can read the articles, add more content to the draft, and add the articles as references. I suggest reviewing the short video at WP:EASYREFBEGIN.  GoingBatty (talk) 14:41, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


 * GB, I have declined the article again as it was basically re-submitted without much if any, development, and left advice that if resubmitted, it *could* be rejected; it may even be deleted via MfD. There are also 2 similarly-named accounts editing the item ( and ). Any reason for this isn't clear but of course multiple accounts are permissible subject to WP:ALTACCN... though it can cause confusion and difficulties in communication. Eagleash (talk) 17:45, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, I developed this article. As you said, I added many sources that show that this person is famous. I ask you not to reject my request. I worked hard for this article. Zabikn7 (talk) 02:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Zabikn7 I see you added many sources, many of which seem to be statistics sites and/or pages that mention his youth career. I don't see that you've demonstrated that Kohkan meets the criteria at WP:SPORTBASIC.  I will not reject your draft, but it is possible for someone to work very hard on a draft that doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability criteria.  GoingBatty (talk) 04:04, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

I have a Q can you gimme an A
Hey GOINGBATTY how ya doin. I was doing some very respectable edits and then tommi1986 took it down because i didint have a reference but you see i know ryan personally and he asked me to put that information up there. Why would he take it down? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikibikkie12 (talk • contribs) 23:47, 2 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Wikibikkie12 - Because one of Wikipedia's core content policies is Verifiability, meaning other people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a published reliable source. Since you know Ryan Dixon personally, you have a conflict of interest and should not be editing the article about him directly.  Instead, you may post your suggestions on the article's talk page - Talk:Ryan Dixon - along with any published reliable sources you have and the request edit template to get the attention of other editors.  Or, you may use the Edit Request Wizard if you like.  Hope this helps, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 02:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from Zabikn7 (12:33, 5 June 2022)
Hello Master, help me in developing this draft and turn it from a draft into an article. Thank you --Zabikn7 (talk) 12:33, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * On the assumption this relates to Draft:Zabihollah Kohkan, please see the responses given by GB, above. The player does not pass the sporting notability criteria and, as it stands, no amount of editing by anyone, however experienced, will create an acceptable Wikipedia entry. Eagleash (talk) 12:43, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * So you edit for me, you help me please Zabikn7 (talk) 13:09, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * PS as previously noted autobiographical articles are discouraged – see that page and also here, for why. Eagleash (talk) 12:49, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * My dear teacher, go to my draft, delete everything you need and add everything you need so that the draft does not look like a biography. Please help me. Zabikn7 (talk) 13:45, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Zabikn7 I don't think anything needs to be deleted. As stated at the top of your draft, you'll need to find "significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject" and use the content of those sources to write a biography of his career.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:16, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from Zabikn7 (17:02, 5 June 2022)
Hi Master, I want to create an article by Zabihollah Kohkan. Help me edit it. Thank you --Zabikn7 (talk) 17:02, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Zabikn7 - Please see above. GoingBatty (talk) 17:32, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from Zabikn7 (14:23, 5 June 2022)
Your professor is experienced. You have created 85 articles. Help me turn this draft into an article. Take over this project. Please, professor. --Zabikn7 (talk) 14:23, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Zabikn7 85??? I see 54 in this report, many of which were redirects and/or deleted.  I will not be able to take over your draft, as I will not be able to find reliable sources due to the language barrier.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 17:31, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * GB, they may mean me... I have created 85 articles; some of them not too bad! Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 21:58, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Eagleash - I apologize, Professor!  GoingBatty (talk) 23:16, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I think he means you are 'my' professor. but who knows! You can easily consider yourself 'faculty'; I can only profess to not really knowing what I'm doing a good deal of the time! Eagleash (talk) 09:21, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you
Hello. I want to thank you for your awesome help editing the Amhara genocide article. The article has been created with B-class rating. If you still see any issues, please let me know. Thank you again! Petra0922 (talk) 10:30, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Petra0922 - Hi there! Looking at Talk:Amhara genocide, I see the article currently has a C-class rating.  Digging in to the WikiProject Crime banner, the article failed the "Referencing and citation" criteria for B-class status.  I'm wondering if the bare URLs need to be resolved to get the B-class status.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 14:20, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You are correct. The editor explained what the issues are and also suggested tips to resolve this issue. I will work to address the style inconsistency and the bare URLs, or any other concerns asap.  Thank you for your help all along Petra0922 (talk) 14:29, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello. Thank you for the much needed edits! I am trying to catch up on CS1 style but still need to work through more in the next couple of days. When making changes, I am trying to build on your and the other edits, and will try not to make things difficult for you:). Thank you again! Petra0922 (talk) 04:03, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

I am back to thank you for the much needed citation clean up you did for this article. You did fantastic work improving this article! I plan to incorporate references in the Table, and then check with the editor if we reached the stage to remove the Clean Up template. Please let me know any concerns. Thank you! Petra0922 (talk) 09:10, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from Charitableguy (16:25, 9 June 2022)
Hi! How do I see how many people viewed my edit or citation? And how do I see how many people clicked my backlink? --Charitableguy (talk) 16:25, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Charitableguy - You can use Pageviews to see how many people viewed an article during a specific period of time, such as this example for the Blackbaud article. If I didn't completely answer your question, you may post your question on Help desk.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:55, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Talking
Dear GoingBatty are you available to talk to? EdLorJudWarr (talk) 00:55, 11 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @EdLorJudWarr Hi there! You can talk to me here or on the Wikipedia IRC help channel (see WP:IRCHELP). GoingBatty (talk) 01:20, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

OK we can talk what do you think about horror films what's your favorite? EdLorJudWarr (talk) 01:23, 11 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @EdLorJudWarr Not really my genre. I used to be into Stephen King books and films, and the ones I enjoyed the most were the least horror-y: Stand by Me,  The Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile. GoingBatty (talk) 01:37, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

What would you think if you create a 1970s–present for the articles Horror film and History of horror films? EdLorJudWarr (talk) 01:36, 11 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @EdLorJudWarr The existing decade sections look good to me. GoingBatty (talk) 01:41, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Are you able to edit those articles yourself? EdLorJudWarr (talk) 01:38, 11 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @EdLorJudWarr Yes, I have been autoconfirmed long ago. GoingBatty (talk) 01:42, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

What about 2010s–present that looks a little unnecessary don't you think? EdLorJudWarr (talk) 01:42, 11 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @EdLorJudWarr No. GoingBatty (talk) 02:03, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Would restoring 2010s and 2020s be ok? EdLorJudWarr (talk) 01:43, 11 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @EdLorJudWarr No. GoingBatty (talk) 02:03, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

I don't understand why is 2010s and 2020s merged together if you care about 21st century horror films should you also 2000s with them as well? EdLorJudWarr (talk) 01:51, 11 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @EdLorJudWarr No. GoingBatty (talk) 02:03, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

It won't be so bad would it? EdLorJudWarr (talk) 01:53, 11 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @EdLorJudWarr I'm not interested in reorganizing these articles. GoingBatty (talk) 02:03, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Review requested
Can you please review this page I've been working on Momar Sakanoko (entrepreneur) don't mind reponding in my talk page. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amerlo93 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Reviewed and replied at your talk page, as you requested. GoingBatty (talk) 21:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Short descriptions
Hello, I noticed that you added a short description here. I thought Infobox album automatically generated these though? ≫  Lil- Unique1  -{ Talk  }- 08:18, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Lil-unique1 Hi there! I reverted my edit to the Nothing but the Beat article to confirm what the article looked like before I added the short description.  You are correct that the Infobox album documentation states "This template adds an automatically generated short description."  However, I don't see the short description displayed on the article.  I have the Shortdesc helper gadget enabled in my Preferences, which doesn't indicate that the infobox is adding a short description.
 * Yesterday I was using VisualEditor to edit the article Ali Tennant, and checking each link in the "Album" column of the Songwriting credits table. In Edit mode, when I click on each link, a popup window appears and displays the short description (if it exists).  When I click on the Nothing but the Beat link, the popup window does not show the short description.  Therefore, I clicked on the link to confirm that Nothing but the Beat is actually an article about an album, and not an unrelated film or television show.  I used the Shortdesc helper gadget to quickly add a short description, in the hopes that it will help future editors.
 * Hope this long explanation helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:02, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Does that mean we need ton add them to all articles using template Infobox album? ≫  Lil- Unique1  -{ Talk  }- 16:38, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Lil-unique1 - I don't know. You might want to ask at Template talk:Infobox album.  GoingBatty (talk) 16:43, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Adding wikiproject music genres template to 1.6k articles
Hi! I saw that your bot works with adding project templates to talk pages. So I'd like to offer you one similar task, which shouldn't be a problem. It's to add the WikiProject Music/Music genres task force template to pages where it doesn't exist. The set of articles themselves are all items on wikidata that have an English article and instance of =, , ,. It's a pretty neat selection here (relatively), as I've been working through these items for a few years now trying to keep them in order.


 * So here's the list of genres/types on enwiki: https://w.wiki/5JZi
 * minus articles with existing template per : https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=22302423
 * and the resulting list for the bot works with 1671 articles is https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=22302469

I'd appreciate it if you could help me with this, or maybe your bot isn't set up for this kind of work and I'd better go to "bot requests"? Solidest (talk) 20:41, 17 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there! I don't have an approved bot task to add any WikiProject to any group of talk pages.  I also have a bot request that's been waiting approval since May 24.  I think your best bet is to post on Bot requests.  If no one else picks it up when my open request is resolved, I'll take a stab at it.  Thanks for thinking of me!  GoingBatty (talk) 22:41, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * @Lectorlatinoamericano Glug glug glug - thank YOU! GoingBatty (talk) 19:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from BaNyenye (07:06, 21 June 2022)
Hi when can 8 start to publish my own pages. --BaNyenye (talk) 07:06, 21 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @BaNyenye - Hi there! Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you do not have a lot of experience editing existing Wikipedia articles.  To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and try The Wikipedia Adventure.  I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills.  Once you're ready to create an article, you would gather multiple independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of the subject, and determine whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability".  If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created.  Hope this helps, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 12:45, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Source code of BattyBot
Hi, I'm randomly looking through enwiki bots that can be useful to run in Ukrainian wiki, and noticed your BattyBot performs some useful tasks (for example #2,3,4,7,62 etc.). Can you open-source the implementation of your bot, or maybe it's already available somewhere in Github? I can make some changes to adapt to ukwiki and run it from my bot account. Thanks --Kanzat (talk) 20:27, 22 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Kanzat Hi there! BattyBot uses the AutoWikiBrowser software for all of its tasks, taking advantage of the AWB general fixes for many tasks.  If you want to request access to run it in non-bot mode on the Ukrainian wiki, I'll be happy to share my settings with you. (Maybe uk:Вікіпедія:AutoWikiBrowser needs to be updated?)  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 23:05, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, please share your AWB settings files (check they don't have passwords inside), I applied for AWB rights in ukwiki. Kanzat (talk) 14:44, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Kanzat: I created User:BattyBot/Orphan for you. You can paste the contents of this page (excluding the <syntaxhighlight ></syntaxhighlight> tags) into an .xml file on your PC.  In AWB, you would go to File > Open settings... and then select your .xml file.  I presume you'll have to make some changes for this to work on the Ukrainian Wikipedia, such as:
 * Change the Preferences > Site from "en" to "uk"
 * On the Skip tab, change "{{orphan" to "{{Ізольована стаття"
 * If this works for you, then I'll share more settings. Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 15:10, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

NoLimits
I had no knowledge that it even existed until your message. Thanks! Bearcat (talk) 15:30, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Closure
Hey GoingBatty is it OK if you give me some closure my cat died yesterday. Suy eks to a hi eu a hi e (talk) 14:34, 23 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Suy eks to a hi eu a hi e - I'm so sorry that your cat passed away. As I'm writing this, one of my 3 cats is sitting with me.  I understand the positive impact that our furry friends have in our lives, and hope that memories of your cat give you some comfort during this difficult time. GoingBatty (talk) 14:43, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you that's so nice of you to say. Suy eks to a hi eu a hi e (talk) 14:44, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Do you have any plans today? Suy eks to a hi eu a hi e (talk) 15:06, 23 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Suy eks to a hi eu a hi e - Yes, I have plans both on wiki and off wiki. GoingBatty (talk) 15:19, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Can you do something for a couple of articles? Suy eks to a hi eu a hi e (talk) 15:20, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Do you ever merge things? Suy eks to a hi eu a hi e (talk) 15:22, 23 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Suy eks to a hi eu a hi e - I don't think I've ever performed a merge, but there are instructions for you at Merging. GoingBatty (talk) 15:23, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

I've heard articles such as horror film and history of horror films has been getting complaints is that true? Suy eks to a hi eu a hi e (talk) 15:25, 23 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Suy eks to a hi eu a hi e See the article talk pages, as well as the section above. GoingBatty (talk) 15:52, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from Anniebelle-is-cool's-=a (18:02, 23 June 2022)
Hi can i create a page --Anniebelle-is-cool&#39;s-&#61;a (talk) 18:02, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi i need help. --Anniebelle-is-cool&#39;s-&#61;a (talk) 18:33, 23 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Anniebelle-is-cool's-=a: Hi there! Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you do not have a lot of experience editing existing Wikipedia articles.  To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and try The Wikipedia Adventure.  I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills.  Once you're ready to create an article, you would gather multiple independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of the subject, and determine whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability".  If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created.  Hope this helps, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 19:26, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Review article Jeff Bourns American Tennis Player
Hello, I was kindly hoping you could help me with an issue on a page I have edited. The other day a user left a COI template on the page Jeff Bourns. I responded to the individual and that individual went on to curse me. I left a message on the individuals talk page. They responded. When I went to reply the comment they made was deleted or moved so I could not reply. The user also had a “I am retired” banner with profanity next to it saying they were done. Can you please review and help give any guidance to the page Jeff Bourns. Many thanks ZnYddRoll (talk) 13:02, 25 June 2022 (UTC).


 * @ZnYddRoll: There seems to be a lot of drama on Praxidicae's talk page unrelated to you. Before the editor "retired" (and unretired), I see the user  by asking "what is your connection to Bourns?"  Thank you for answering it by declaring your COI on your own user page.  (I fixed one of the links for you.)  Since you have a COI, you should not be directly editing the Jeff Bourns or Adaptive Standing Tennis articles.  Instead, you may post suggestions on the articles' talk pages with the request edit template, and another editor will assist you.  You may also use the Edit Request Wizard if you find that easier.  Hope this helps, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 18:58, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @ZnYddRoll There seems to be a lot of unsourced information in the "Early life" section of the Jeff Bourns article. If you can provide references, please do so on Talk:Jeff Bourns.  Otherwise, it should be deleted.  GoingBatty (talk) 19:32, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much I will make sure and do that! I am learning and going at a slower pace than I would like but appreciate the guidance @GoingBatty 😁 ZnYddRoll (talk) 22:50, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @GoingBatty I could please use your expertise on this matter. I recently noticed that a unified account was setup under my username. One in French, Fr, and one in Italian, It. I did not create or authorize this. I changed my password, recover email, and logged both other users out. How do I email someone to look into the issue for hacking, if that exists. When I logged into the French and Italian sites my user name appeared Red. Not it’s usual color. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Best, ZnYddRoll (talk) 22:54, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @ZnYddRoll - The unified login happens automatically so no one else takes your username on another Wikipedia - see m:Help:Unified login. Your username appears as a bluelink on the English Wikipedia because you created a page at User:ZnYddRoll, and appears as a redlink on those Wikipedias where you have not done so.  GoingBatty (talk) 02:05, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

I guess Michelangelo put it best at age 87, “I am still learning”. Thank you again for the time of your day. All of the best ZnYddRoll (talk) 02:14, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Problem not being indexed by Google after 7 days
Hello. Good day @GoingBatty. Looks like my new article is not indexed in Google! can you help me? Thank you. Bestbiowriter (talk) 17:24, 30 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Bestbiowriter: Hi there! Per WP:INDEXING, "Articles younger than 90 days are not indexed, unless they have been patrolled".  WP:NPPSORT shows there are "13010 unreviewed articles as of 30 June 2022".  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:35, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @GoingBatty: Aha; thanks a lot. I thought this article had been patrolled.. Bestbiowriter (talk) 07:27, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from CommunistCatGirl (05:04, 2 July 2022)
Hi! How much coding experience is required/ suggested? I want to edit articles but I’m worried that that would hold me back. Thanks! --CommunistCatGirl (talk) 05:04, 2 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @CommunistCatGirl Hi there! It's not really "coding" experience that's required, but experience gathering independent reliable sources, editing an article to summarize what the sources say in your own words, and providing the references.  To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and try The Wikipedia Adventure.  You may also post your recommendations on article talk pages (along with those sources), discuss your suggestions with other editors, and watch what they do.  Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 05:11, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! You were very helpful <3 CommunistCatGirl (talk) 05:16, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Hagia Sophia
What was this edit for? I do not see blanking articles as an approved task for Battybot. Mjroots (talk) 19:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Mjroots - Thank you for letting me know about the issue. I'm glad  quickly reverted the incorrect edit.  I checked the bot's contributions, and it's the only edit marked as "blanking" for that day.  Thanks again!  GoingBatty (talk) 21:45, 1 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Well, if it's a one-off error, we can let it pass. If it becomes a problem, the bot will have to be blocked. I'm sure you'll keep an eye on this and it won't becom necessary. Mjroots (talk) 06:09, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from ArimhsaK (07:05, 2 July 2022)
Hello, How to create new page? --ArimhsaK (talk) 07:05, 2 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @ArimhsaK: Hi there! Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you do not have a lot of experience editing existing Wikipedia articles.  To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and try The Wikipedia Adventure.  I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills.  Once you're ready to create an article, you would gather multiple independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of the subject, and determine whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability".  If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created.  Hope this helps, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 14:04, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Lavilla28 (06:30, 5 July 2022)
Hi, is it ok to copy paste the article that is written from my personal blog? --Lavilla28 (talk) 06:30, 5 July 2022 (UTC)


 * What is the URL of your blog post? GoingBatty (talk) 12:33, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Statistics relating to enlargement of the European Union
Hello! Could you please update the information in the candidate countries section of this article to add information about Moldova and Ukraine? Thank you in advance. Uliana245 (talk) 23:39, 6 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Uliana245: I suggest you post a request on the article's talk page, and add a link to a source for current statistics. GoingBatty (talk) 00:18, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Scouting Newsletter: July 2022
--evrik (talk) 22:13, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from ArimhsaK (05:46, 11 July 2022)
Hello, which mistake I did in last article editing? --ArimhsaK (talk) 05:46, 11 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @ArimhsaK: Hi there! Let's look at each edit individually:
 * In to Federalism in India
 * You added content without adding a published reliable source
 * You added a bullet with no text
 * You added a bullet with the text "The c"
 * You did not use an edit summary describing why you made your edit
 * You marked your edit as minor, which isn't really a minor edit
 * In to Paul H. Appleby
 * You should not have added his first and last name - see WP:SURNAME
 * You added content without adding a published reliable source
 * You did not use an edit summary describing why you made your edit
 * You marked your edit as minor, which isn't a minor edit
 * In to Paul H. Appleby
 * You should not have added his full name - see WP:SURNAME
 * You added a lot content without any published reliable sources
 * You did not use an edit summary describing why you made your edit
 * You marked your edit as minor, which definitely isn't a minor edit
 * You did not italicize the magazine/newspaper names - see WP:ITALICS
 * Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 00:36, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Hk33official (14:45, 13 July 2022)
How do I publish a Wikipedia draft article page? --Hk33official (talk) 14:45, 13 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Hk33official: Hi there! Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you do not have a lot of experience editing existing Wikipedia articles.  To learn how to edit, I suggest you start at Help:Introduction.  I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills.  Once you're ready to create an article, you would gather multiple independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of the subject, and determine whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability".  If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article to create a draft, and be prepared for a process that may include waiting for review, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created.  Hope this helps, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 02:29, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Inviting you to the Amhara genocide nomination for deletion discussion
Hello @GoingBatty (talk). Thank you for your help on improving/ editing this Amhara genocide article, to bring the rating back to the B-level. This has been re-affirmed by experienced editors especially after the citations style improved. Since the article has now been nominated for deletion, I thought you would be interested to join the discussion. Thank you Petra0922 (talk) 12:52, 13 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Petra0922: Hi there! I was happy to help tweak some of the references.  However, this is not my area of expertise, so I will not be giving a !vote in the deletion discussion.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:33, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello again. I was genuinely curious as to who would participate in the AfD general discussions (not necessarily on votes). I may need to check articles with similar histories for the level of engagement (how many people participate before consensus). I see now why at least 7 days of discussions are needed to give time for those who can comfortably discuss articles' notability, to pick the topic from the list of AfD based on expertise. Thank you again for the great help with the references. I am going to borrow your note-, i.e. Happy editing! Petra0922 (talk) 11:01, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Review Draft
Hey GoingBatty, Please review once Draft:Indian Predator or Please suggest any reviewers name where I asked the questions. Thank You MereBabuji (talk) 13:42, 16 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @MereBabuji: ✅! I also changed the WikiProjects, in the hopes that they will attract additional editors to help.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:13, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Provincial governors' names from Brazil (Years 1889-1933)
Hello, GoingBatty, this is 121.101.132.6 asking you to help put in any provincial governor's name from Brazil from the years 1889 to 1933, if you can't talk to another user to help the user put in any provincial governor's name from Brazil, please, thank you. 121.101.132.6 (talk) 05:34, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with. Please remember to sign your reply with ~.
 * Hi there! What is the name of the Wikipedia article?  What is preventing you from doing this yourself?
 * Do you get notified when I use Re as you suggested? The template documentation states "IP addresses are only notified if you post to their user talk page."  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 13:21, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


 * After making this post, I received an alert stating "Your mention of 121.101.132.6 was not sent because the user is anonymous." Therefore, I suggest you sign in with an account if you wish to be pinged. GoingBatty (talk) 13:26, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Crescendo102 (16:51, 22 July 2022)
Dear Mentor, Could you please help me with the submission of the new page for sculptor David Phillips? It was rejected again, this time apparently for reasons tied to the “quality and reliability of sources.” Since you had suggested that I add new references in the education section, I added references of Cranbrook Academy, the New England Conservatory of Music, State of Utah, and also the Christian Science Monitor, the Boston Globe, and the Art Net Magazine, all reliable secondary sources of good reputation and totally independent from the well-known artist David Phillips. Besides, in addition to the articles above in the Boston Globe and other publications, I added a few more references on his artwork, such as the Mel Lederman Memorial Foundation (private website), Landscape Notes (sourced in partnership with MIT and Harvard), and some blogs that perhaps are not strong enough references, in which case we could remove them, of course. On another note, I did not include an article from the AP News Agency that mentions David Phillips as the sculptor retained by the Boston Museum of Science to design and build the future Leonard Nimoy memorial with a 20-foot sculpture shaped like Mr. Spock’s split-fingered hand, because I thought this is just an ongoing project for now (Please see article from a CBS station here: https://www.wkyt.com/2021/03/26/live-long-in-sculpture-20-foot-art-planned-for-spock-symbol/) Likewise, I omitted the publication from the Animal League of Boston regarding the work they commissioned David Phillips for (see reference here: http://www.arlboston.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Donor-and-artist-profile-release_15-5-22.pdf). This sculpture is already referenced in Wikidata and I could add a picture to that page if appropriate (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q109272102). Other existing references include an article from the Boston Herald that I omitted since access is reserved to subscriber. Thank you for your kind help. --Crescendo102 (talk) 16:51, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I added 14 citation needed templates to the draft, and made some other tweaks for you. If you have any relationship with Phillips, you must disclose it on your user page - see WP:DISCLOSE.  As you mentioned, some of the sources are blogs, and few provide significant coverage of Phillips.  You may add references from published reliable sources (such as the Boston Herald) that are only available to subscribers, or aren't online at all.  Hope this helps, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 15:06, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your kind help with all the citations requirements. I just completed the edits. I reviewed the WP-Disclosure page and I have no COI. I am not a paid editor either, I just do this as a Wikipedia volunteer based on my own interests in arts and music. I hope the page is now in good shape. Crescendo102 (talk) 03:43, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:The Unfortunate Return of the Ridiculously Self-Indulgent Ill-Advised Vanity Tour.png
Thanks for uploading File:The Unfortunate Return of the Ridiculously Self-Indulgent Ill-Advised Vanity Tour.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:40, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Eagles
Theoretically I'm monitoring Eagles, though I've been busy today and didn't get around to fixing Mainstream rock. It gets about one mislink per month, all for Eagles (band) except for one overenthusiastic translation of the town of Águilas. Certes (talk) 21:53, 30 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Certes Ah, that explains why Eagles wasn't already on my Backlinks. Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 21:58, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Scouting Newsletter: August 2022
--evrik (talk) August 1, 2022

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:41, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Review a draft article
Hi GoingBatty, My article Monroe Grisman was moved to draftspace last year and as you had done some minor editing on it before it had been moved, I am hoping you could review and provide any feedback on how it should be improved. Based on the notes from the editor who moved it, I have cleaned it up and added better verifiable citations. I believe I have reliable citations that met the requirements, but always still learning. I would like to submit this draft for review once it feels like it will have the best chance of approval. Thank you! Ddab (talk) 21:37, 27 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ddab I've made some tweaks to your draft. Good look with your submission! GoingBatty (talk) 14:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reviewing. Since you only had some minor tweaks I am hoping that I am mostly on the right path. Thanks for reviewing Village Music as well, that was one of the first articles I had contributed on and learned a lot first working on. Ddab (talk) 15:52, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Simion mlauzi (12:49, 4 August 2022)
Hello? How to add my biography here? --Simion mlauzi (talk) 12:49, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Simion mlauzi: Hi there! WP:AUTO  explains that Wikipedia strongly discourages autobiographies.  Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially when you have a conflict of interest (COI).  To learn how to edit, I suggest you start at Help:Introduction.  I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills.  When you're ready to create an article, you would gather published independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of you, and determine whether you meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability".  If so, you could create an account and declare your COI on your user page.  Then follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting for review, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created.  If you are successful, then you could never edit the article directly due to your COI, but could submit edit requests on the article talk page.  Hope this helps.  GoingBatty (talk) 13:41, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Anniebelle-is-cool's-=a (13:54, 10 August 2022)
hi i need help --Anniebelle-is-cool&#39;s-&#61;a (talk) 13:54, 10 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Anniebelle-is-cool's-=a: Hi there! What do you need help with? GoingBatty (talk) 14:52, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

rough translation
Your change has cause redlink cats. Did you see the edit history where this change was reverted last year because the necessary cats weren't set up at the time. More needs to be done. They are all listed in Category:Articles with invalid date parameter in template. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 05:29, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know about the issue. No, I hadn't checked the edit history.  I have created the monthly categories.  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 15:09, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * FYI, just creating the currently missing categories isn't really enough, as it doesn't set things up properly for the bots to maintain things in the future. The instructions on all the things you need to do to set things up completely are at Creating a dated maintenance category. Anomie⚔ 19:31, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Anomie Thank you for the link. I updated Category:Wikipedia articles needing cleanup after translation and created Category:All Wikipedia articles needing cleanup after translation.  GoingBatty (talk) 21:12, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It looks like you'll also want to add rough translation to WP:AWB/DT, and also add dating to cleanup translation (and add that to WP:AWB/DT too) and the same for any other templates that might populate Category:Wikipedia articles needing cleanup after translation. Anomie⚔ 11:06, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Anomie ✅ and ✅! GoingBatty (talk) 12:53, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Onias Dasva (06:43, 14 August 2022)
Hello. How do I get started on editing --Onias Dasva (talk) 06:43, 14 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Onias Dasva: Hi there! To learn how to edit, I suggest you start at Help:Introduction.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:44, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Steve andrew sunnychibuike Andrew Skyrell on NYU Langone Hospital – Brooklyn (17:29, 18 August 2022)
Can I post my articles without going through editing I just want to publish my biography on Wikipedia due to my personality and business type --Steve andrew sunnychibuike Andrew Skyrell (talk) 17:29, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Steve andrew sunnychibuike Andrew Skyrell: Hi there! WP:AUTO  explains that Wikipedia strongly discourages autobiographies.  Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially when you have a conflict of interest (COI).  To learn how to edit, I suggest you start at Help:Introduction.  I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills.  When you're ready to create an article, you would gather independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of you, and determine whether you meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability".  If so, you could create an account and declare your COI on your user page.  Then follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting for review, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created.  If you are successful, then you could never edit the article directly due to your COI, but could submit edit requests on the article talk page.  Hope this helps.  GoingBatty (talk) 21:01, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Credo 85 (11:42, 21 August 2022)
May I ask you a question please: What if I want to publish an idea, rather than create existing factual content please? Is this allowed or not? Thanks --Credo 85 (talk) 11:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Credo 85: Hi there! Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a place to publish ideas - see WP:FORUM.  GoingBatty (talk) 15:24, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @GoingBattythanks. 77.100.61.208 (talk) 06:25, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Kjpath (10:10, 12 August 2022)
I have made serial zoom photographic review of the face of the famous Mona Lisa painting as seen by millions in the Louvre Museum in Paris, France. The eyebrows on the face of the beautiful Mona Lisa are clearly missing. They had not been painted in the 'genuine' painting present in the Louvre Museum as attributed authentically to Leonardo Da Vinci, around 1503 -1516 AD. I am not aware that attention has been focused on this particular important anatomic anomaly by art world experts and devotees (historians, critics, traders, collectors, film producers, commentators and teachers alike) to the best of my knowledge. As a forensic pathologist I look forward to contributions of interested people keen on this subject to review and to develop a worthy wide discussion on it. --Kjpath (talk) 10:10, 12 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Kjpath: Hi there! Thank you for sharing.  Remember that Wikipedia articles are written based on independent reliable published sources.  What is your question? GoingBatty (talk) 20:43, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. My communication is to draw out the world of Art Historians and others directly involved in the critical study of the art. On further research there have been others who have raised questions on the missing eyebrows of the Mona Lisa but seem not to have ignited deep interests or concerns by the relevant Art Specialists. This is rather surprising when physicians mostly have taken up interest in studying the face of Monal Lisa and there are many scientific publications submitted by medical and health specialists. I share below some:
 * Scientific Reports volume 7, Article number: 43511 (2017). Published: 10 March 2017
 * Mona Lisa is always happy – and only sometimes sad
 * Emanuela Liaci, Andreas Fischer, Markus Heinrichs, Ludger Tebartz van Elst & Jürgen Kornmeier
 * Curr Opin Otolaryngol Head Neck Surg. 2020 Aug; 28(4): 195–200.
 * = The science of art: Leonardo Da Vinci and facial plastic surgery =
 * David A. Shaye a, b
 * Br J Gen Pract. 2012 Jun; 62(599): 319.
 * = Leonardo da Vinci: anatomist =
 * Roger Jones, Editor
 * Arch Dis Child Fetal Neonatal Ed. 1997 Nov; 77(3): F249.
 * = Leonardo Da Vinci (1452-1519) and reproductive anatomy =
 * P. Dunn
 * Animals (Basel). 2019 Jul; 9(7): 435.
 * = Leonardo da Vinci’s Animal Anatomy: Bear and Horse Drawings Revisited =
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 * On the engineering side one comes across the well-known published work of the optical engineer Pascal Cotte.

Extract of the book : Lumière on the Lady with an Ermine Author : Pascal Cotte Vinci Editions - 288 pages - Sept. 2014 available on Amazon

Kemp M., Cotte P., La Bella Principessa. The Story of the New Masterpiece by Leonardo da Vinci, London, 2010…… La Bella Principessa and the Warsaw Sforziad Pascal Cotte1 and Martin Kemp2

Extract of the book : Lumière on the Mona Lisa - Hidden Portrait isbn : 9782954825847 Available on Amazon

Journal of Cultural Heritage 45 (2020) 1–9 Original article Mona Lisa’s spolvero revealed Pascal Cottea,∗, Lionel Simonot b a Lumière Technology, France b Universite´ de Poitiers, Institut Prime UPR CNRS 3346, France

Multispectral camera and radiative transfer equation used to depict Leonardo’s sfumato in Mona Lisa Mady Elias1,2,* and Pascal Cotte3 1 Institut des NanoSciences de Paris, Université Pierre et Marie Curie, Unité Mixte de Recherche 7588, Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique, Campus Boucicaut, 140 rue de Lourmel, 75 015 Paris, France 2 Université d’Evry Val d’Essonne, boulevard François Mitterrand, 91000 Evry, France 3 Lumiere Technology S.A.S., 215 bis Boulevard St. Germain, 75 006 Paris, France *Corresponding author: elias@physique.univ-evry.fr Received 8 January 2008; revised 13 March 2008; accepted 14 March 2008; posted 17 March 2008 (Doc. ID 91529); published 18 April 200

LUMIèRE ON THE MONA LISA Hidden Portraits; Section : Fine Art Text : Pascal Cotte Date of irst sale : 12/2015 Size closed : 23,5 x 30,5 cm Number of page : 220 Illustrations : 390 retail price : £29,95 / $49,95 Distribution : ACC book distribution LTD. English Version ISBN ean13 : 9782954825847

The following paragraphs are exactly copied from the above publication by Pascal Cotte:(up to end of Biography paragraph) The L.A.M. technique is based on images obtained by the multispectral camera, recording the light reflected on 13 wavelengths (filters). It generates over 1,650 images, capturing the interaction between light and matter at all depths of the paint-layer. The technique makes it possible to reconstitute the genesis of a work, its chronology and the different phases that compose i Pascal Cotte’s scientific discoveries rewrite the history of a mythical work that has become the emblem of Western Art. They lead to the hypothesis that the Mona Lisa was painted in four main stages: 1/ Leonardo painted a 1st portrait, slightly larger than today – perhaps the draft for the 2nd portrait. Nothing enables us to say who is represented. The posture seems identical to the portrait as it appears today. The hands placed on the arm-rest and the sleeves are similar but slightly larger. 2/ Leonardo effaced this draft and painted a 2nd portrait. The discovery of a head-dress made of pearls, draperies and hair-pins suggests the subject may have been sacred or mythological – perhaps a Goddess, Saint or Madonna. 3/ Above this Leonardo then painted a 3rd portrait, with a hairstyle and dress typical of Florentine fashion from the years 1502-06. It is suggested that this is the veritable portrait of Lisa Gherardini seen by Florentines and described by Vasari. 4/ Finally, Leonardo transformed this work into the Mona Lisa we know today, altering the posture, turning the head and eyes towards the viewer, moving the shoulders more to the right and adding a veil around the head and upper body to mask the former hairstyle and dress.

Summary The book reveals that the Mona Lisa is not Lisa Gherardini, wife of Francesco del Giocondo, and that her identity has been mistaken for 500 years. Using a new scientific imaging technique (L.A.M.), Cotte unveils over 150 discoveries found beneath all the repainting. He establishes the chronology of the various paint-layers and reveals the authentic portrait of Lisa Gherardini, of which he proposes a realistic reconstitution. She has more feminine face and looks to her right, with a different posture; there is no dark veil, while her clothes (gamure) and hairstyle (foggia alla francese) relect Florentine fashion between 1502-07. Her dress has pretty tied ribbons (nastri) and openings (inestrelle) that reveal her chemise underneath. Her hair is held in place by a net (velo) and embroidery around her forehead. This was the portrait of a dignitary’s wife, typical of the Florentine upper-classes. The extraordinary discovery reconciles the various existing theories about the history of this Symbol of Western Art. Cotte goes even further, helping us discover two other projects hidden beneath deeper repainting. He reveals an impressive head-dress made from draperies, hair-pins and pearls (probably for a Madonna or Saint); and the forms and outline of another, larger portrait. The book enables readers to superimpose use four moveable transfer sheets, featuring the surrounds of the discoveries, on the images so as to chart the four stages of the work’s evolution. The reader can thus conduct his own investigation. Why did Leonardo transform the portrait of Lisa Gherardini into the Mona Lisa? The answer, suggests Cotte, lies with the story of Giuliano de’ Medici – the very man Leonardo himself, speaking at the end of his life, referred to as the portrait’s commissioner. Presentation The Mona Lisa is one of mankind’s great mysteries. With over 9.7 million admirers per year, it is the most mythical painting of all time. Thanks to an extraordinary scientific imagery technique (L.A.M.), this book takes us on a journey into the heart of the paint-layer of the world’s most famous picture and reveals secrets that have remained hidden for 500 years. Mona Lisa is not actually Lisa Gherardini, wife of Francesco del Giocondo, but a portrait that masks others. Leonardo da Vinci did not paint one, but four portraits, super-imposed on one another. More than 150 discoveries help us rediscover the painting’s genesis, with Cotte reconstituting the true portrait of Lisa Gherardini – whose face, hairstyle and costume were radically different from those we now see in the Louvre. The book shatters the myth and alters our vision of the work. It is a giant leap forward in art knowledge and art history. Pascal Cotte, who digitized the Mona Lisa at the Louvre with his multispectral camera in October 2004, now presents the fruit of ten years’ research. Biography Pascal Cotte is an optical engineer specializing in photography and image signal analysis. He is the inventor of the L.A.M. scientific imagery technique and the first high-definition multispectral camera, which he has used to digitize several works by Leonardo da Vinci: the Louvre’s Mona Lisa, in October 2004; The Lady with an Ermine in Cracov, in September 2007; La Bella Principessa in 2008; and La Belle Ferronnière in 2011. All told, Cotte has digitized over 2,000 works in public and private collections, and authored several studies scientific about famous paintings. His book Lumière on The Lady with an Ermine reconstitutes the three phases of that painting’s creation, including one version without an animal. Since 2007 Cotte’s exhibition The Secrets of Mona Lisa, produced by Australia’s Grande Exhibitions, has been seen by over 8 million visitors on all five continents

The now famous engineer/photographer, Pascal Cotte, has carried research commissioned on behalf of the Louvre Museum, apparently since 2004 onward. He used by that time what was considered sophisticated optical scanning and array devices with enhanced number of filters covering a wide range up to thirteen filters from ultraviolet to infrared with powerful light homogenous light source. His camera was capable of 240 mega pixels (nowadays for example Samsung mobile company has on the market mobile phone equipped with 200 megapixel and in 2026 apparently it is scheduled to launch a mobile phone with capability of 560 mega pixels). His scientific study still could not at all satisfy the question of the missing eyebrows and thus failed to answer the question of the missing eyebrows. When Pascal Cotte was directly asked about the eyebrows’ issue specifically his reply was really not convincing neither from a  profoundly scientific finding nor from speculative answer to justify the absence of the eyebrows. He claimed (only himself with no substantiation by a anyone else) to have observed (identified) in the hidden layering study of one single hair on the left eyebrow and that was that. He did not see a thing that remotely could look like a hair on the right side where the right eyebrow would anatomically have been. He further went on to speculate that the reason for the missing eyebrows could be attributed to repetitive restoration works carried on the painting since the supposed last work by Leonardo in 1516 on it or more logically after his death around ten to fifteen years later from the time he began working on it. There is no knowledge that the work had continued on it by Leonardo when it had become under the ownership of the King of France. There is no record in the internet of restoration work on the Mona Lisa painting since it had become the property of the Louvre Museum in Paris, France. And Pascal Cotte did not tell whether such restoration work had been carried in the Louvre itself at least in the last two centuries and till the commencement of his study. The eyebrows were not certainly the main concern at all or even the centre piece of the Louvre/Pascal study as the interest was on the finding the hidden story of the artist’s techniques of the real layers under the visible surface painting of the Mona Lisa. To this end he succeeded in shedding new light on the drawing of the left-hand fingers, the famous smile of the Mona Lisa and the supposed faded blanket. Mr, Cotte went further to publish work on his studies on other works that are well documented. His work received support from Prof. Martin Kemp of Oxford University whom he subsequently collaborated with him on other work: Kemp M., Cotte P., La Bella Principessa. The Story of the New Masterpiece by Leonardo da Vinci, London, 2010 Pascal Cotte in his attempted explanation on the missing eyelashes he seems to come across dismissing the circulated alternative explanation that the eyebrows could have been plucked off by the lady herself. . This shaving off or plucking off the eyebrows was attributed by those advocating social explanation to trends and norms of Italian women in early 16th century. It is difficult to find if this social reasoning could be substantiated. It is not hard on Art Historians and Art Curators possibly to simply undertake comparison on the presence or absence of eyebrows in Leonardo's earlier paintings or the work of Leonardo's contemporary painters in the Renaissance who have equally painted women faces in various art works executed by them. This study if done objectively could either strengthen the social explanation or treat is as weak at best. Also, it is possible to see if the missing eyebrows formed a theme in Leonardo's subsequent post Mona Lisa work or the works of his contemporaries and those who followed him of other European Artists within a period in which social trends would gradually wane off if again the social explanation is to be taken seriously. If Leonardo was truly reflecting in the Mona Lisa painting some accepted social trend of that time, he would have been equally acutely aware of knowing he had pupils in his art studio working to follow on his footsteps. There is a second copy of the Lisa painting that is housed in the Prado Museum in Madrid (to avoid referring to it as Mona Lisa). The Art historians and art experts of Leonardo’s works apparently favour pupil artists like Salaï or Francesco Melzi. These followers were Leonardo’s most trusted pupils. Unlike other pupils, who apparently had been judged by students of Art paintings, created their own artistic styles out of their apprentices with Leonardo. Therefore, the verdict on the second Lisa painting by either of these two artists has been based on their adherence to Leonardo’s style. According to published conclusion points of an interesting commissioned study by the Louvre Museum but conducted in the Prado museum in Madrid where comparison has been made between the French Mona Lisa and its Spanish counterpart copy, that the ‘technical analyses have demonstrated that the Prado’s version was executed at the same time as the original, supporting the hypothesis of a workshop “duplicate” produced at the same time and with direct access to the gradual process of creation of Leonardo’s original work.’ Yet one can make clearly evidence of the presence of eyebrows on the face of the Spanish Lisa copy, even if these were painted somewhat thinly. Giorgio Vasari in his 16th century account (stated that faint evidence of eyebrows and eyelashes were seen by him on the Lisa's painting. The question is which copy had Vasari seen. Was the copy with the evidence of the thin but visible eyebrows the real copy painted by the master Leonardo? Was Leonardo in some peculiar mental state or mood that he intentionally opted to deprive the beautiful face of her full beauty? but yet he ensured his pupil would grant this essential anatomical human facial feature on the second copy. The medical world as sampled above focussed when it comes to the missing eyebrows on the health of the thyroid gland. Hypothyroidism, underactive and under functioning thyroid gland, would lead to hair loss. One way to explain the missing eyebrows is to consider them lost due to medical condition, such as Hypothyroidism. Therefore, condition like Peripartum Thyroiditis (which means inflammation of the thyroid gland around the time of delivery and shortly after in a pregnancy) and post-partum Hypothyroidism (which means development of underactive thyroid gland post- delivery of the baby in a pregnancy) were thought of to explain facial features of Mona Lisa. Another medical explanation that had been seen in the literature is published in the Clinical and Experimental Dermatology Journal with the title The Mona Lisa: an example of frontal fibrosing alopecia masquerading as Renaissance fashion? and written by Campbell, V and McKenna, K. In summary the medical community has thankfully attempted to offer pathology related explanation for the missing eyebrows, the sociologists provided another explanation and the engineering research through the work of Pascal Cotte speculated but very likely weakly and most probably unconvincingly that engineer Cotte really has spotted the trace evidence, manifested by one hair in the area where the left eyebrow was supposed to have been painted and nothing on the right side according to engineer Cottee. The topic needs, no doubt, greater depth of studying with clear unbiased objectivity that is detached from personal leaning and importantly free of Museums' influence Kjpath (talk) 08:26, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * No one from the Art world seems surprisingly offering explanation on the missing eyebrows of the Mona Lisa painting in the Louvre. This topic has been dealt with professionals in fields not specifically directly involved in art history. This intriguing mystery could be greatly helped by comparative contemporary observational analysis by experts in History of Artists and their Paintings. Were the missing eyebrows an aberration by Leonardo only, or committed by others too. Knowing something as important as eyebrows on human face and that their presence is invariably taken as a matter of natural course in life as well as in paintings and often a sign of beauty when the eyebrows are looked after especially by women, could one speculate about the genuine authenticity of the Mona Lisa painting in the Louvre Museum with her deficient eyebrows. The Louvre Museum would absolutely certainly dismiss and disregard this question as a futile debate, farce and of totally of no importance what so ever, but what about objective art historians, curators and paintings experts. Kjpath (talk) 09:58, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Giorgio Vasari (1511-1574) in his Lives of the Most Eminent Painters, Sculptors and Architects Volume 4 ( by De Vere, Gaston du C) Pages 87-126 (Digital.Libraries.com). The following is quoted from the volume described above:
 * "Leonardo undertook to execute, for Francesco del Giocondo, the portrait of Monna Lisa, his wife; and after toiling over it for four years, he left it unfinished; and the work is now in the collection of King Francis of France, at Fontainebleau. In this head, whoever wished to see how closely art could imitate nature, was able to comprehend it with ease; for in it were counterfeited all the minutenesses that with subtlety are able to be painted, seeing that the eyes had that lustre and watery sheen which are always seen in life, and around them were all those rosy and pearly tints, as well as the lashes, which cannot be represented without the greatest subtlety. The eyebrows, through his having shown the manner in which the hairs spring from the flesh, here more close and here more scanty, and curve according to the pores of the skin, could not be more natural. The nose, with its beautiful nostrils, rosy and tender, appeared to be alive. The mouth, with its opening, and with its ends united by the red of the lips to the flesh-tints of the face, seemed, in truth, to be not colours but flesh. In the pit of the throat, if one gazed upon it intently, could be seen the beating of the pulse. And, indeed, it may be said that it was painted in such a manner as to make every valiant craftsman, be he who he may, tremble and lose heart. He made use, also, of this device: Monna Lisa being very beautiful, he always employed, while he was painting her portrait, persons to play or sing, and jesters, who might make her remain merry, in order to take away that melancholy which painters are often wont to give to the portraits that they paint. And in this work of Leonardo's there was a smile so pleasing, that it was a thing more divine than human to behold; and it was held to be something marvellous, since the reality was not more alive." Kjpath (talk) 08:11, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Kjpath: That's a lot of information, but I still didn't see a question for me. If you think this information should be included in Wikipedia's article about the Mona Lisa, then you may want to post at Talk:Mona Lisa.  However, if you do, I suggest you state a clear purpose for your post at the beginning, and do not paste large paragraphs of copyrighted material.  (Although it may seem like posting all your information at once would be helpful, there are those who decide not to read posts that are very long.)  GoingBatty (talk) 20:59, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you again for your helpful advice. With regard to the copied quotation from the work of engineer Pascal Cotte I was making sure that his material is precisely quoted as he advertised it. It might appear a bit much but because the topic is important in its pursuit of the missing eyebrows on the Mona Lisa. Engineer Pascal Cotte is the only known person who has been given direct access ( as revealed publicly by the Louvre Museum since around 1800 AD) to undertake a scientific study using his invented compilation of multifilters, camera with large megapixels and scan...etc. Therefore I felt it is appropriate to state to readers what Mr. Pascal Cotte has himself set out to tell the rest of us on his own work. Yet the central issue of my interest is to revive the question of the whereabout of the eyebrows of the Mona Lisa in the copy present in the Louvre Museum. I have communicated with several professors of Art History in different North American and European Universities with the content of the my writing above on the question of the eyebrows. I genuinely hope to receive feedback and I am waiting optimistically.
 * Your question of putting the entire information after you conform it to your guideline now or a bit later following possibility of getting some feedback from the Art Historians is really up to you as you see most appropriate for the good of all.
 * Any feedback I shall receive will be highlighted here after I get the approval from the replier and permission of the replier to accept being quoted.
 * I might add that I have attempted to communicate with Prof. Martin Kemp of Oxford University as he was a joint author with engineer Pascal Cotte on the same type of optical study but on a different painting. Both of them published their joint work which I have referenced above. Unfortunately the e mail I managed to get for Prof. Martin Kemp must not have been the correct one and the e mail was returned as undelivered. Kjpath (talk) 05:43, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Kjpath: You could try the email addresses at https://martinjkemp.com/contact/ GoingBatty (talk) 06:04, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you.
 * I will try again.
 * Much appreciated Kjpath (talk) 06:21, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * A follow up to the contact initiated with Prof. Martin Kemp of Oxford University. Prof Kemp is extremely busy academician but was very kind to find time to reply to the question of the missing eyebrows of the Mona Lisa. Briefly his main points could be summarised from what was understood in his message that to make medical diagnosis on studying an image alone could be fraught with errors. Medical professionals tend to apply strict scientific criteria on their medical research and medical work. Therefore it would be only appropriate if the same terms would apply when medical people attempt to make a medical diagnosis on a painting without considering the history of the image, the function of the image and the different stages of conservation the work could have been subjected to.
 * Prof Kemp kindly provided a reference J-Pierre Mohen et al, Mona Lisa. Inside the Painting. This work apparently shows the crude interventions of past restorers. Therefore it is unsafe to make the point that the Mona Lisa never had eyebrows painted.
 * Prof. Kemp added that there was a time when eyebrows had been heavily plucked, and when the Maddalena Doni by Raphael is viewed this point would become clearer. The matter of the missing eyebrows could have been due to the effect of prior restoration(s) as the eyebrows would have been likely delicately painted.

I would like to add the following important reference too: Mona Lisa: The People and the Painting by Martin Kemp & Giuseppe Pallanti by Oxford University Press, 2017. ISBN 978–0–19–874990–5 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjpath (talk • contribs) 06:07, 23 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Kjpath: Again, the place for this conversation is Talk:Mona Lisa (not here). Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 12:53, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Christianpayday10 (02:58, 27 August 2022)
Hi I’m trying to create a artist page for myself I’m an artist. I was researching something on YouTube on how to get an official YouTube channel. It said I needed an Wikipedia artist page created. can you help me with this? --Christianpayday10 (talk) 02:58, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Christianpayday10: Hi there! WP:AUTO explains that Wikipedia strongly discourages autobiographies.  Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially when you have a conflict of interest (COI).  To learn how to edit, I suggest you start at Help:Introduction.  I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills.  When you're ready to create an article, you would gather multiple published independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of you, and determine whether they demonstrate that you meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability".  If so, you could create an account and declare your COI on your user page.  Then follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting for review, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created.  If you are successful, then you could never edit the article directly due to your COI, but could submit edit requests on the article talk page.  Hope this helps.  GoingBatty (talk) 03:25, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

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my content under life University was removed and I am inquiring as to why Zombiebob1990 (talk) 21:03, 31 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Zombiebob1990: Hi there! Looking at the history of the Life University article, I see that  reverted your edit, with the word "unsourced" in the Edit summary.  Per Wikipedia's verifiability policy, all content needs to be accompanied by a published reliable source (preferably one that is independent).  You may readd the information if you can also provide one or more sources - see WP:EASYREFBEGIN to learn how.  If you need assistance with this article, I suggest you start a discussion on the article's talk page: Talk:Life University.  Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 22:02, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Backlinksbudy (16:00, 5 September 2022)
hello, i'm just create own account for information to how create an wikipedia page --Backlinksbudy (talk) 16:00, 5 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Backlinksbudy: Hi there! Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you do not have a lot of experience editing existing Wikipedia articles.  To learn how to edit, I suggest you start at Help:Introduction.  I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills.  Once you're ready to create an article, you would gather multiple independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of the subject, and determine whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability".  If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include waiting for review, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created.  Hope this helps, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 16:02, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Meena or Mina
Wikipedia page Meena and not Mina on the basis of only one book the entire Meena page is being told as Bhil which is completely wrong. It is completely wrong to say that the gotra of the Bhil caste is the gotra of the Meena caste. Meena is a separate ethnic group and Bhil is a separate ethnic group. Misinformation is being spread by a person on Wikipedia by adding false information Please make corrections and take the page back to the previous state. Prashant Ram Kumar ji (talk) 08:52, 8 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Prashant Ram Kumar ji: Hi there! Even if I knew which edits to the Meena article you wished to be reverted, I don't know enough about the topic to know what's right and what's wrong.  Since the article is now protected from your ability to edit it, I suggest you start a new section in the Talk:Meena page with details on the specific issues with the article and the specific changes you wish to be made.  I also suggest you add Edit extended-protected to the top of your request to get attention from other editors who have the ability to edit the article.  Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:43, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Prashant Ram Kumar ji (talk) 02:45, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

A Goat in Thanks
Thank you for fixing the references on my draft article!

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 * @TypistMonkey: My pleasure! There are a few maintenance categories that I monitor daily, and your draft happened to be in one of those.  Good luck with your draft! GoingBatty (talk) 16:01, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from Jaznawm on User:Jaznawm (06:10, 9 September 2022)
Hellow,how do I make my own article? --Jaznawm (talk) 06:10, 9 September 2022 (UTC)


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WPZW
Hello. When I created Category talk:Zimbabwe history-related lists I copied the code from Category talk:Zimbabwe-related lists. Why then did the bot do this and has not touched the exact same syntax at Category talk:Zimbabwe-related lists which has been that way for 15 years? Also the bot's edit summary says it has "Added Template:WikiProject banner shell" when it is not. It's making changes within existing banner shells. Just curious. -- DB 1729 talk 10:03, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @DB1729: Hi there! Please note that Category talk:Zimbabwe-related lists only has two WikiProject templates, and AWB's general fixes only adds WikiProject banner shell when the talk page has 3 or more WikiProject templates.  BattyBot should have skipped Category talk:Zimbabwe history-related lists because it already contained WikiProject banner shell.  I reverted my bot's edit, fixed my skip logic, and tested to ensure the page is now skipped.  I appreciate you bringing this to my attention.  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 18:27, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for looking into this and the reply. I am aware of the two no, three yes rule with banner shells. What I'm not familiar with is the purpose/scope of the bot. I was just curious why the bot is bothering to change WPZW → WikiProject Zimbabwe. Am I doing something wrong? Another example in a category I created: The bot changed WP Australia → WikiProject Australia. It just seems like a pointless change unless there is something wrong with this syntax I'm not aware. Are these abbreviations something I should avoid in the future? DB 1729 talk 19:18, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @DB1729: That's another case of a pointless change that the bot should not have made, because the page already contained WikiProject banner shell. The bot changes WP XXX → WikiProject XXX because AWB's general fixes only adds WikiProject banner shell when the talk page has 3 or more WikiProject templates named "WikiProject foo" and not with their redirects.  As long as you're manually adding WikiProject banner shell (or one of its redirects), it doesn't matter whether you use the full WikiProject template or one of its redirects, as now (thanks to your report) BattyBot will ignore those pages for this task.  GoingBatty (talk) 19:29, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

AWB question
I found that Dedham is a sidebar nav template indiscriminately used on hundreds of article that just mention this small community in any way, in violation of WP:BIDI. So it needs to be removed from around 200 articles, all except the ~40 that at linked in the template. Can you do this, or do you have a quick way to make a list and I can do it with AWB. (Some are from the redirect DedhamHistory). <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 21:03, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Here's my suggestion:
 * Make a list using AWB with "Source: What transcludes page" and "What embeds: Template:Dedham", which gives me 261 pages.
 * Click Tools > List Comparer and click OK to copy the list into the ListComparer.
 * For List 2, choose "Source: Links on page" and "Links on: Template:Dedham" and click Make List, which gives me 48 pages. You probably want to keep the template on these pages.
 * Click the Compare button
 * In the main AWB window (not the ListComparer window), click List > Clear current list.
 * In the ListComparer window, under "Unique in List 1", click "Use list", which copies the list into the main AWB window.
 * Close the ListComparer window
 * Create a Find and Replace rule for  → nothing, with the Regex box checked.
 * Create a default edit summary of something like: "Removed indiscriminate use of Dedham per WP:BIDI"
 * Go through the list, skipping those articles that should have the template.
 * Hope this helps (and it's not mansplaining). GoingBatty (talk) 21:17, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Never used List Comparer before. Your instructions were clear and this "project" is in progress. 150 more to go (I always see other things to fix while there). <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 22:43, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Your bot
intrigued me much & - first time I see really working automated solution for deleting emails from cite template. Can I use your bot for that? What parameters have I provide tou your bot to be able to use it for such task? Thank you in advance 85.238.101.64 (talk) 13:05, 5 October 2022 (UTC)


 * To use my find/replace rules as a bot, you would have to:
 * create an account
 * register for AutoWikiBrowser
 * demonstrate you could run it well manually
 * register for a bot account, and then
 * submit a bot request for approval explaining why you want to run a bot.
 * Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 03:29, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... point one is inappropriate for me for some reason. Any options without it? Anyway, I already happy there's such tool exists and sometimes even working properly ) 85.238.103.38 (talk) 14:27, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * AWB requires a username, and the Bot policy requires a username. GoingBatty (talk) 21:28, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks
For clean up (&. I just can't get how could I miss so much at April. Or these emails appeared there later? 85.238.101.64 (talk) 12:06, 5 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I like using a tool called Wikiblame, which allows you to see when text was added (e.g. and ).  GoingBatty (talk) 03:13, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * What a great tool! I clearly missed it's functionality while searching for copyright violation authors at articles' history manually. Thanks for pointing on it ) However that does not disclose why I missed all these emails with my current year's April edits as it appeaed much earlier... Will try more to find out. 85.238.103.38 (talk) 14:24, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... It looks like it some way buggy as it was not able to find by searching "&lt;!--" 85.238.103.38 (talk) 22:21, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * If you search for  with the "Force searching for wikitext" box checked, it will find  instead.  Try searching for   and "Force searching for wikitext" and you'll find .  GoingBatty (talk) 14:46, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Letzgometz1 (16:36, 18 October 2022)
Hi Mentor!

I'd love your help. I am the subject of a wikipedia page, which was created in 2006 and had many contributors over the years, but in 2021 someone redirected it for this reason:

Restored revision 1038486729 by John B123 (talk): Does not meet WP:GNG, and with only a single significant role, does not meet WP:NACTOR undo Tags: Twinkle New redirect Undo

While I'm not acting these days, I had an interesting career in film and television, including a number of prominent roles. What do you recommend? Thanks! --Letzgometz1 (talk) 16:36, 18 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Letzgometz1 Hi there! I don't recommend writing an autobiography - see WP:AUTO and An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing.  When writing an article about a person, it must be based on multiple independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage about the person.  The old version of the article about you did not have any of these.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 02:18, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, To be clear, I have no intention of writing an autobiography. There has been a well-sourced wiki page about me for sixteen years. It's just that one person has decided that after all this time I don't meet the criteria for a page. There are certainly multiple independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage about me. How do I clarify that? Thanks for your help. 2601:645:8000:F770:49D2:EB9A:1652:3B33 (talk) 02:37, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Looking at before it was changed to a redirect, I see there are zero references in this version. GoingBatty (talk) 02:57, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Kadeblade (19:59, 20 October 2022)
hello! how do i join a wikiproject like WikiProject NFL? --Kadeblade (talk) 19:59, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Kadeblade - You can follow the instructions at WikiProject National Football League. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 21:31, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Friendly
How to create a article I'm a article user please help me Pretty mkoliswa (talk) 15:49, 22 October 2022 (UTC) Thanks Pretty mkoliswa (talk) 15:48, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Indef blocked. David notMD (talk) 02:42, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This question was answered for you at Teahouse. GoingBatty (talk) 02:56, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from I am very hangry (03:06, 25 October 2022)
Hey, I was wondering how do I get user boxes for my account? I saw yours and thought it was pretty cool! how do I apply them to my user page? --I am very hangry (talk) 03:06, 25 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @I am very hangry Hi there! I first started playing with infoboxes after looking at the source on other user pages.  There's also lots of good info at WP:Userboxes, including links to userbox galleries.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 21:22, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Monroe Grisman
Hi GoingBatty, The draft submission I worked on, Draft:Monroe Grisman, was declined. As all the citations are verifiable and independent 3rd party, and published sources, with even some where the subject was the focus I am unclear why it was not approved as the reason stated is not detailed. As you had graciously looked at and tweaked this a bit, I am hoping you can help give me some insight/feedback/direction on how to improve this properly before submitting again. Thanks Ddab (talk) 20:21, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ddab - User talk:GoingBatty/Archive13 has a yellow box on the top of the page stating "This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page." Therefore, I moved your post here.
 * The reviewer of Draft:Monroe Grisman posted "Most of the sources are interviews which are not independent or not about him." The box at the top of the draft states "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject".
 * Let's look at the first 3 references:
 * The Marin Magazine article is an interview.
 * The Marin Independent Journal article is an interview.
 * The SFGATE article is an interview.
 * WP:PRIMARY discusses primary sources and, in Note d, includes interviews as a type of primary sources. Interviews are not secondary sources, and are not independent of the subject. Therefore, your claim that all the citations are independent 3rd party is not correct.
 * Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:58, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Root Equus (05:04, 9 November 2022)
Hello, I clicked 'cancel' while writing a draft and I've lost my progress; can I retrieve the lost information somehow? Thanks --Root Equus (talk) 05:04, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * You might be able to recover something within your own browser by clicking the back button multiple times, but you won't find a saved copy on Wikipedia until you clicked the "Publish changes" button. Good luck!  GoingBatty (talk) 05:10, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Article assessment classes
Hello there. I created an article, Nigel Boddice which you reviewed as C class. I have two questions: 1. I have added significant amounts of detail more than when it was reviewed, so when or how does it get rereviewed? 2. How much difference would I have to include to get to B class, or even A class/GA? Thanks again. Schminnte (talk) 16:36, 13 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Schminnte Hi there! There is no schedule for reassessment.  You could remove the current ratings, and then someone else will come along and rate the article again.  There's a lot more information at Content assessment (including Content assessment/B-Class criteria, Good article criteria, Content assessment/A-Class criteria) and WikiProject Biography/Assessment.  Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 12:46, 14 November 2022 (UTC)



Question from BlockBusterEvan (21:32, 16 November 2022)
Hello, I just found out about "non-free use rationales", and I'm wondering how I can get one for a Wikipedia article. Thanks! --BlockBusterEvan (talk) 21:32, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * When I think of "non-free use rationales", I normally think of images. For example, the When We Was Fab article has the image of the copyrighted album cover at the top.  Also, the Apple Corps article has the image of the company logo at the top.  I like using the "Upload a non-free file" option at File Upload Wizard to upload album covers and logos.  There's lots of good information at Non-free content.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 00:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! BlockBusterEvan (talk) 01:45, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

BattyBot does not recognize WPSAILING
Per this weird edit by BattyBot It does not seem to understand that WP:WikiProject Sailing exists, or the shortcut WPSAILING at least. -- 65.92.246.191 (talk) 16:22, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know about this issue, and for fixing Talk:Flying Tiger 10 M. I've updated User:Magioladitis/WikiProjects (and my bot) to include that WPSAILING is a redirect for WikiProject Sailing.  There are currently no article talk pages that use WPSAILING.  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 16:46, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

BattyBot does not know about AWB problem
AWB breaks usages of. There is a phab open on this, but until that gets fixes, AWB will do this. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 19:27, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I wasn't aware of this template. I added a note to the phab ticket.  I'll keep an eye out for it when performing manual edits.  GoingBatty (talk) 22:15, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

RE: User:Newsguyla/100.9NRG (K265FH-FM)
Hello... I see you recategorized the page I created for a radio station. I admit I'm new to Wikipedia so I'm curious if I did something wrong or what needs to be corrected for the page to appear on wikipedia like other radio station pages from which I modeled the entry.

Thanks in advance for your time educating me.

David Newsguyla (talk) 02:28, 29 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Newsguyla - Replied at User talk:BattyBot. Next time, please just ask your question here.  I've made some other tweaks to your draft for you.  Happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 02:59, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Agnus Vernon
Thank You for all the work you did on Agnes Vernon. Truly appreciate all the corrections you made. I learn tons and will apply to future articles. Thanks Again Michael Jannetta (talk) 20:50, 30 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Mtjannetta My pleasure! Could you please help me understand the third sentence of the lead?  "When America and Vernon entered their early twenties, she forever abandoned Hollywood."  Is this "America" a person?  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 21:59, 30 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @GoingBatty Good question!
 * Reads:When America and Vernon entered their early twenties, she forever abandoned Hollywood.


 * The sentence is attempting to say – when American entered the early 1920s i.e. the 1920, 1921, 1922 and Agnes Vernon entered the same period, she abandoned showbusiness. Upon reflection I can’t make an equivalency that both American and Vernon abandoned something in the early twenties.


 * Should read: I will rewrite the sentence to read - After Vernon entered her twenties, she forever abandoned Hollywood.
 * Michael Jannetta (talk) 04:51, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Your recent contributions to Gillian Armstrong
This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at Gillian Armstrong, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. 114.122.138.83 (talk) 04:04, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * was not vandalism, so I have restored it. GoingBatty (talk) 04:11, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Wonder
Wondering how many of your edits are CN (citation needed). I guess you understand not many people seem to supply citations in reply to these notifications. It probably doesn't change the fact you're correct to point them out. I suppose you could occasionally look for the references. It's not a great interest to you, right?Infactinteresting (talk) 22:19, 9 December 2022 (UTC)


 * The number of my edits where I add citation needed is probably very low, but feel free to review my edit history. Are you referring to any particular article I've edited?  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 22:29, 9 December 2022 (UTC)


 * No, not really. You seem to be doing alright. I noted you're reachable on here but not other places, that's kind of a typical thing. I'm sure we'll interact.Infactinteresting (talk) 05:47, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

BattyBot task 34 query
Hi GoingBatty! On this BRFA, you asked for a tweak to my SQL query that lists disambiguation pages without the WikiProject Disambiguation banner on their talk pages. Here it is! Hope this allows you to run your BattyBot task more often :) Cheers, 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him &#124; talk) 04:47, 17 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @EpicPupper - Thanks so much - running the task now! GoingBatty (talk) 05:02, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:34, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Budget of the European Union page edit
You edited the infobox at the mentioned Wiki page. I don't realy understand why the parameters are incorrect. Anonymus R (talk) 22:55, 26 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Anonymus R: Hi there! Budget of the European Union uses Infobox government budget. Let's look at the example in the Template:Infobox government budget documentation, which is the infobox for the 2018 Union Budget of India.  At the bottom of this sample infobox are links "2017" (which goes to 2017 Union budget of India) and "2019" (which goes to 2019 Union budget of India).  Looking at the example source, these are the parameters that create those links:
 * 2017 Union budget of India
 * 2017
 * 2019 Union budget of India
 * 2019
 * Back to Budget of the European Union article, the infobox had the following parameters:
 * previous_budget
 * 2021
 * 2023
 * 2023
 * This was creating a link at the bottom of the infobox to the Wikipedia article about the year 2023, as you can see in of Budget of the European Union.
 * If the article was called 2022 Budget of the European Union, then it would make sense to have the infobox contain links to 2021 Budget of the European Union and 2023 Budget of the European Union. However, since the article doesn't appear to be specific to a specific year's budget, these infobox parameters are not appropriate to use.
 * I made to the template documentation in an attempt to provide clarity.  Hope this helps, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 23:27, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the correction. Anonymus R (talk) 01:29, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

BattyBot on Australian newspapers
Thanks for making. I noticed the Telegraph when I got around to yesterday's Backlinks, but I probably wouldn't have spotted the Tribune. Can I safely leave Australian newspaper fixes to the bot? The ones I fix are
 * Arrow
 * Daily Telegraph
 * The Daily Telegraph
 * The Northern Miner
 * Referee
 * Sunday Sun
 * Sunday Times
 * The Sunday Times

A list of potential wrong links is in User:Certes/Trove, and a long list of all links in User:Certes/Trove/full. The ones I recall fixing in practice are: The most prevalent are The Sunday Times (Sydney) and The Daily Telegraph (Sydney), but not all Telegraph references come from Trove. Some Tribunes may be local issues of the Sydney communist paper, but the Melbourne one is a different Catholic publication. Certes (talk) 14:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Certes Hi there! My Backlinks includes: Advocate, Daily Herald, Evening Journal, Leader, Mirror, Tribune, Truth, World
 * My bot fixes more than those, and all by using location:
 * If you can think of other patterns (maybe using url or via), please let me know. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 21:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Some suggested additions, not tested:
 * Some suggested additions, not tested:

– Certes (talk) 23:27, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from Mohamed A Bangura on User talk:Mohamed A Bangura (10:17, 30 December 2022)
Hello --Mohamed A Bangura (talk) 10:17, 30 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Mohamed A Bangura: Hello there! What is your question? GoingBatty (talk) 16:16, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

BattyBot broke Mathematics
The BattyBot change, now reverted, caused a "no inner hatnotes detected" error on Mathematics. Presumably BattyBot didn't like the hatnote group containing a non-hatnote, but an empty hatnote group was worse. I'll clean up the article's hatnotes but you might want to take a look at this. Regards, Dan Bloch (talk) 21:04, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually an earlier non-BattyBot change introduced the same error, so it looks like it's an AWB problem.  I'll report it to AWB. Dan Bloch (talk) 21:12, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I see you already did. Thanks. Dan Bloch (talk) 21:17, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, and for fixing the article. I didn't make the original AWB report, but I have updated it.  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 21:21, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, GoingBatty!
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Happy New Year, GoingBatty!
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