User talk:Golbez/Archive 1

Archive 1: March 2004 to January 2006

Old Subway Chat
Oh, don't worry about doing things wrong. I'd agree, there needs to be some kind of standardization for the metro stops. I have no idea if Metro Center was the right title, or if it should be moved to Metro Center Washington Metro Station. Personally, I'd say that each station name is unique enough to not need the "Washington Metro Station"--perhaps those could become redirects. Anyway, I won't be able to give the same level of detail on every station, but Metro Center is like the back of my hand--not only can I navigate it in my sleep, I frequently do (work sucks). I'd say that any standard format needs to include:
 * name
 * line
 * date of opening
 * number of people that go through the gates there daily, if we can get it
 * exits

Perhaps this could be presented in some sort of table format? I'm no good with MediaWiki, the system we use for standardized messages--but I'm sure it'll get worked out.

Yours, Meelar 03:19, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Looking at other Metro systems, they don't appear to have articles for each individual station, so we're forging new ground. I'd say go with station name, on the grounds that it's less complicated. Keep in touch, Meelar 03:24, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

P.S. You ought to create a user page, so as to facilitate navigation to your talk page. Just a suggestion, though--there's plenty of people who don't have them.

Yeah, I was just about to click my name to make a page when I saw the You have new messages link appear. Still getting used to this. :)

I know what you mean; I started riding the Metro to school when I was 13, up til when I graduated from GWU at 20. (Any surprise that my first station entry was Foggy Bottom?) I can navigate it in my sleep, but so many station names have changed in the last 4 years that I need a map to figure out what's what now. :P

Yeah, not every station will get the same amount of detail - what can we say for Vienna? "It's in the middle of the Interstate"? But it's still worth what information we can put.

I'll take a look at a table format, and we should definitely include a list of notable nearby places. I'll look at the WikiProject and see what I can do.

Other Metro systems don't have articles for every individual station except for the London Underground, and that was my inspiration for portions of my formatting. Like they have names like Acton Town tube station. Then again, the British tube names are a lot less unique. Charing Cross will have multiple entries, as will Picadilly, etc.

You're problably right; there's very few stations that actually need 'Washington Metro Station' after them in the name, and they can be disambiguated somehow. Capitol Heights, Vienna, Rockville, etc... but things like Capitol South, Metro Center and Tenleytown-AU are pretty unique. --Golbez 04:03, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

From the talk page on WikiProject Station:

This looks good. I'll look over my contributions thus far to follow this. Unfortunately, I don't know the table markup, but I'll do what I can. --Meelar 05:34, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Smithsonian (Washington Metro) seems the better choice, you're right. Meelar 05:59, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Metro station stub notice
Golbez: I agree, it might seem like little more could be written on a metro station. In fact, there's little I can think of off the top of my head right now to embellish it with. But I've also learned from my experiences on the Internet and on Wikipedia that folks can write voluminously on the most arcane topics -- even ones I never would have expected could be anything more than 1-line statements. The stub notice is a way of advertising "Hey, if you've got anything else to say about this, fire away!", and so I think it's appropriate in the case of all short articles. -- Seth Ilys 19:55, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

B5
Golbez: I decided to start importing my B5 content into Wikipedia, rather than waiting around for a separate (and less viable) project. I've already created pages for every episode. Expect the B5 activity to show up under "Things I'm Working On" later today. :) -- Seth Ilys 20:08, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Metro station tables
I shrank the table because it was overlapping the hot links, which I keep on the right side of the screen. It should probably be at about a width of 500 for every page. RickK | Talk 04:01, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Traingle -> Triangle
I'm a new user here, and really wanted a chance to see how the 'move page' button worked. It left a redirect behind; perhaps you could get rid of this, since I also changed the Metro redirect to it. Gadfium 04:11, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Go to the MLS page click on the DC United link under teams it is a different link than the one under championship games there is a differenc in spacing in DC or the periods there are actually two seperate mirror pages for DC united I am just trying to combine all the dc united pages

Since you don't have a user, I can't respond to you directly, but you're going about it the wrong way. You are failing; what you're doing is creating a redirect that leads to itself. There is only one D. C. United page; if another page links to "DC United" or whatever, then either make that a redirect, or change the link. Or maybe I don't understand what you mean? --Golbez 22:39, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Italians "disambiguation"
Some of those disambiguations Italians -> Italians are wrong. In many pages, the ethnic group is meant, not the immediate country of origin. --Shallot 06:47, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The common solution to the situation when only some of the links can be actually disambiguated is not to misdirect links. Instead, they are either left as is until a new page is written, or pointed to the inexistent page (thus inviting its creation). --Shallot 07:04, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)

You are right that several ethnic groups don't have it, and the correlation between them and their old nation states is indicative. But when they're an autochtonous minority outside their nation state, they could/should eventually get a separate page so it's probably a good idea to link in that direction. Thanks. --Shallot

Copyvio procedure
Hi. I saw your question about copyvio procedure on Copyright problems. When a copyright violation is found do not edit the exiting article but if you want to create a substitute to replace it after deletion you can create Article name/Temp (with the "/Temp" after the name). - T&#949;x &#964; ur&#949; 15:37, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

IMS table
The additions look great. I just removed the thumb border around the photo; I think it works better inside the table without it. Thanks.

Rdikeman 21:17, May 23, 2004 (UTC)


 * I like listing the races (should the heading be "Current races"?). It's certainly not a problem to distinguish the important ones at IMS, with which I am more familiar, though I can see it would be harder for other venues. I learn a lot more about a track I don't know well -- like Atlanta -- if they are there.


 * Ownership and capacity may be important to some people; I think they belong there, too.


 * Rdikeman 12:31, May 24, 2004 (UTC)

Edit summary field
Hi! Just some advise from a co-wikipedian with common interests: it would be super-nice if everybody took a couple of seconds to fill in the summary field after editing articles (e.g. fixing typos -- in fact, especially then), so all the watchlist users didn't have to check the diff to find out what has changed. Saves us all a little annoyance and some time. No need for a doctoral thesis in the summary, just some short abbrevs will do, like "typo" etc. --Wernher 12:12, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * I replied to your response (thanks, BTW) at my talk page; feel free to drop by. --Wernher 16:53, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting that vandal on my talk page. Best, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 21:57, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * No problem, that really irked me. I knew it was bad before clicking it, just in the general spirit of the comment.  Now I'm just waiting for him to come here. :P --Golbez 22:06, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Oceanic from Faedra
Re: Oceanic: Is this a copyright violation; No!.

..poss. a typo, please note change of reference data. I drew upon several other sources to compile the current edit several years ago and can therefore only mention those books I recall. Faedra Enjoy!, and thanks.


 * Cheers, I allways have problems naming pages!, as long as somebody reads it!- have added a bit to Foula in relation, and general. The first I knew anything about it was as an intersting story my grandfather told me, reported to him by his uncle then researching our family history (about 1920), but the Professors family are not imediate cousins.

No probs. I am just adding little tidbits here and there, and i stopped at 1900, so there is plenty for you to do too. :-) Danny 00:50, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I did dates and some additional stuff from Clement Clay to 1900. I will continue tomorrow evening, if you don't get to it first. Danny 01:01, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Congress
I can't remember whether I got the data from Political Graveyard or from reference works at the UNC library. Political Graveyard has a number of minor errors, I've found, so it'd be valuable to cross reference with another source, anyhow.

I thought I had explained the *s; those are the sessions in which all members were elected at large, rather than from districts. I'll fix that on the page. -- Seth Ilys 00:51, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Dashes
Yes, but I just find double hyphens to be very ugly and I see no reason to let them stay for however long it might take for them to be auto converted, which for all I know could be a year or two or never. Everyking 18:49, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I'm well aware, but that's undoing my work, what I'd consider a destructive edit. What on earth is the point? It only affects the edit screen, but the edit screen should still be an accurate representation of what the page actually looks like. Everyking 16:41, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Day/month/year date format has nothing to do with anything. Obviously one wouldn't add a comma where it isn't appropriate, but I'd add them where they're supposed to be, assuming I'm already editing the article for some other reason and just want to tidy it up by adding the commas. Everyking 18:30, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Ordering Succession Tables
With British personages, we've always put it in chronological order. There are separate boxes dealing with PMs and Presidents, so it's not as though this will become especially confusing. The problem with doing it in order of importance is that, after president, it becomes hard to say which is the most important. Presumably VP is more important than anything else. But what if someone was, say, Secretary of State and Chief Justice (e.g. John Marshall)? Both positions are pretty important...so which comes first? Just doing it chronologically seems simpler. With categories, on the other hand, I'd suggest they be listed in some sort of defined order based on importance (perhaps using the United States order of precedence as a model. That way, we can have both.  I'd add that we should always include the dates for these tables, no matter how we choose to do it - otherwise it can be very confusing. john k 11:55, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * See my note on John Kenney's talk page. jengod

Next time...

 * The next time you feel like leaving an unwarranted and totally inaccurate personal attack, at least show a touch of class and leave it on my talk page. - Lucky 6.9 04:43, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * Here's a copy of the answer I left on my page: Thank you for answering. First of all, politics had nothing to do with my vote and non-notability had everything to do with it. If you or anyone else can expand this article with verifiable information, I would be more than happy to change my vote. The cutesy "hawt Azn chick" line didn't really help, either. Please feel free to disagree with me, but please do it on this page. Again, thanks. - Lucky 6.9 05:02, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

'''I leave this exchange here because Lucky and I made up and are now Wikibuds. ... Or something along those lines. But I'm happy he's back!'''

II, III
I don't think there's an entry in the naming conventions for this, so which is the proper format for a name with a II, III, etc, that isn't a royal name? Article in question is John H. Bankhead, II. Should it be with or without the comma? I note that "with" comma takes up the bulk of redirects to Bill Gates, but the article itself mentions him as William Henry Gates III, no comma. Any suggestions? --Golbez 02:38, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * The more common practice is not to use commas before II, III, etc. (unlike Jr. or Sr. where it's the other way around), so I would use John Smith III (but John Smith, Jr.). A redirect from the other version is always useful, of course. Gzornenplatz 03:23, Jul 21, 2004 (UTC)


 * Hi Golbez. I moved this from the village pump in case you hadn't seen the reply yet. Angela. 18:40, Jul 30, 2004 (UTC)

US Congressional Delegations by state articles
Hi there, I noticed you've been doing some great work developing these. Right now, there is a redundancy, however, with all the lists of Senators by state. Does anyone have any plans to delete or redirect these? Because we can cross-categorize the congressional delegations articles under both Senators and Representatives by state categories, those can now serve the functions that separate articles would as far as navigability and classification. One further thing that does need to be done with the congressional delegations articles though is alphabetizing them so they are properly organized in the categories. Thanks! Postdlf 04:59, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Good compromise
Good compromise on September 11, 2001 attacks. - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  18:27, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

EasyTimeline
EasyTimeline is back now. Cheers, Erik Zachte 16:43, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Oh I see, you already knew :)
 * Thanks for the notice anyway. :) Neat little program, that. I'll have to see what other applications I can find for it. --Golbez 16:49, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Info
Are you getting your info from any specific place? I just got mine from NOAA. The whole change like that insinuates that I'm a liar. Mike H 17:31, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC)
 * The NHC, which may have different info from NOAA, but I trust more. NOAA probably filters the NHC advisories for better public consumption; check http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/. I'm not insinuating anything at all, but the information is probably identical (70 miles SSW of Ft Myers is probably close to 240 miles SSW of Orlando), though I don't know why the speeds would be different. The NHC advisory also didn't mention possible strengthening to cat 4. However, I will change "late" to afternoon. I was in the middle of writing the article and got an edit conflict with numbers I didn't recognize, but mine matched the NHC, so I decided to go with mine. What URL did you get your number sfrom? One error I made though, the storm IS moving NNE instead of North as I put.


 * I did not mean to imply at all that you were a liar, the numbers were just unfamiliar to me. I figured the NHC should be the primary source for such numbers, unless they've changed since the last advisory. --Golbez 17:38, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Joschka Fischer
Hi, the German constitution says it is illegal to start a war aggression. There were some suits against Fischer (and Schröder) because of the Kosovo war, but as far as I know, they either were not accepted by the courts or the German participation in the Kosovo war was ruled as unconstitutional because it wasn't war aggression. But it is a widely spread issue in the German peace movement, so protests against the German participation and especially against red/green and Fischer pushing this should be mentioned in the Joschka Fischer article. I think the form you found is more NPOV than the previous edit, but may be seen different by others. -- till we &#9788; &#9789; | Talk 21:11, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * The former version (before the prev edit and your edit) was also NPOV, but it is true that Fischer justified (and still justifies) the German engagement in the war with an Auschwitz reference, so the new version has more information. -- till we &#9788; &#9789; | Talk 21:16, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Why did u rmv the link to the Paris Hilton porn tape?
i wrote a warning next to the link. pls put it back


 * If someone wants to find it, they can google it. Wikipedia is not a link repository, nor is it a direct link to porn. --Golbez 01:04, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * if i insert a indircet link to this video it would be okay?


 * I would doubt it. If I don't delete it, I'm sure someone else would. Again, if people want to find it, they have google. There is no reason for that video to be on Wikipedia. --Golbez 01:08, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

66.117.217.78
I've just written up an RFC for this user; see Requests_for_comment/66.117.217.78. -- Grunt (talk) 19:25, 2004 Aug 23 (UTC)

Will Rogers
FYI--When making the William Rogers (disambiguation) page, I found Will Rogers, Jr. listed on your page of congressmen from California when the official bioguide site says he represented Oklahoma and there doesn't appear to be a similar delegation page for the Sooner State. I didn't change anything because I do not know myself. I've posted a note on the delegation discussion page as well.

I also noted you liked to put in the "preceded/succeded by" boxes. So do I. I've gone through and listed them for every associate justice of the Supreme Court. See John McLean for an article I wrote and one of my boxes. Ave!

PedanticallySpeaking 19:52, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)


 * I've responded on your user page. --Golbez 20:04, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Will Rogers, Redux
Thanks for the clarification regarding Will Rogers, Jr. I did have William Vann Rogers, Jr., on my disambiguation page. Didn't click with me that could be Will Rogers Jr. So far I've got about a dozen people on my William Rogers disambiguation page. Now I'm working on a John Clarke (disambiguation) page. One was on the Supreme Court John Hessin Clarke, which is how I came to the subject.

I can imagine the Illinois congressional delegation would be a bear; it's been a very populous state for a very long time--I imagine they, New York, Pennsylvania and my state of Ohio would have the most total congressmen. Good luck with the rest of the delegations. Ave! PedanticallySpeaking 20:15, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

Congressmen Everywhere
I checked my "Congressional Directory" for the table listing how many members of Congress (House and Senate both) each state has had and, as of October 2001, these are the leaders:

1. New York, 1454 2. Pennsylvania, 1042 3. Ohio, 669 4. Illinois, 479 5. Massachusetts, 431 6. Virginia, 430 7. New Jersey, 358 8. Missouri, 332

What are you working from in compiling these lists? The on-line Bioguide? The several volumes of the atlas of Congressional districts?

Ave! PedanticallySpeaking 14:15, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)

Congressional Atlas
Kenneth C. Martis edited a big fat atlas charting the Congressional districts of every state from their admission to 1983. It lists every congressman by district and their tenure. Here's the record copied from the Library of Congress catalog:

Martis, Kenneth C. The historical atlas of United States Congressional districts, 1789-1983 / author and editor, Kenneth C. Martis ; cartographer and assistant editor, Ruth Anderson Rowles ; compilation draftsmen, David Durham, Brian Raber, Thomas Kokernak ; research assistants, Rowland Dent ... [et al.]. New York : Free Press ; London : Collier Macmillan, c1982. 1 atlas (xiii, 302 p.) : maps (some col.) ; 35 x 47 cm.

ISBN: 0029201705

If your library does not have it, you might try to request it through inter-library loan. You might have some trouble because most libraries would class it as a non-circulating reference book, but it's worth a try.

I don't know if you're interested in the CSA congress, but Martis also did a similiar book on it.

Ave atque vale!PedanticallySpeaking 15:41, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)

Sep11
I responded on the talk page. I think that phrasing the sentence a bit differently is better than simply removing it. WhisperToMe 00:00, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notice. :) --Golbez 01:22, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)

BR
What's the advantage of/reason to change into that I occasionally see on some pages? I know XML requires a closing tag in that fashion, but is that the reason? -- Golbez


 * Yes. Tags without a closing tag must close themselves with the trailing slash for XML (and thus XHTML) conformance. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 14:33, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * It's not necessary here, MediaWiki automatically puts it there if it isn't there already. Goplat 15:10, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Some us have a lot of occasion (outside wiki-land) to hand-write XML (including XHTML). Someone (including me) might be editing for other purposes and change to almost by reflex. -- Jmabel 21:26, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)


 * Hi Golbez. I've moved the above discussion here as it was time to clean the Village pump. Angela. 14:33, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)

I saw you wondering why some edit links in templates were removed. I think the idea with edit links is that they should be placed in templates that are ideally updated quite often.

Edit link
A template like Template:West Indies should not have to be updated very often, since the information presented is pretty much definite, information about existence of countries and dependencies will probably not change more than a few times a decade. A template that should have an edit link is template:album since that info is constantly updated. &mdash; siro &chi;  o  06:12, Sep 7, 2004 (UTC)
 * I can live with that; However, the same argument could be said about an article that is simply a list of countries. Those still have edit links. And the template would have an edit link still; it would just be simpler to access. But you are correct as well. I won't fight to keep the edit link, as useful as I find it. :) --Golbez 06:14, Sep 7, 2004 (UTC)

Mutual friends
Hey... just bumped into your username. We have some mutual friends... I think I met you once when cov and xtine lived in the compound in Troy. Anywho, this is Shawn, or zazen if you happen to remember the name from my brief forray into #eblana. Like I said, happened to see your name, thought I'd say hello. --Senca 05:45, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Haha, hey, nice to see ya. Yep, same guy. Tell Kris I said happy birthday, I haven't seen him online today. --Golbez 06:09, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)

Edgar Cayce on karma
Thanks for investigating with the Crisis word and everything. I'm glad I went through the extra effort of writing &#21361;&#27231;. --Jondel 07:29, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks!!
Just got your note on my talk page and I wanted to thank you for it. If you really want to see what havoc the B-Movie Bandit has wreaked on us, just go to User:B-Movie Bandit or User talk:B-Movie Bandit. You just gonna love this idiot. - Lucky 6.9 02:36, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Admin Nomination
I'm running for administrator--User:Deb was kind enough to nominate me at my request--and wonder if I could have your vote at Requests for adminship. Ave! PedanticallySpeaking 20:16, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

Context
Well, I only added it back in cases where it said neither American politician nor U.S. state. I tend to prefer the former in most cases, actually, but I'm fine with either one. Everyking 20:30, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I see your point, it's not always ideal; for example, there are cases in which it's hard to uncontroversially apply a general descriptive term to a person. But I like it because it starts the reader off with a basic, general description of the person, as opposed to immediately pinning them down to one notable thing. In most cases, I like a first sentence wording that starts off by giving the nationality and occupation (or some general descriptive term for whatever they are known for), then tells whatever specific thing they are most notable for. From an international perspective, John Howard, Gerhard Schroeder and Jacques Chirac all go with that style, while Tony Blair, Vladimir Putin and Hu Jintao don't. Everyking 20:51, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

beta Systemic Bias section
Hi, if you wish to help contribute to a beta version of a Wikipedia page section designed to counter-act Wikipedia's systematic bias, please sign the bottom of this section on the Village pump - Village_pump. If not, no worries.--Xed 03:24, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

"Again."
You jerk :) -- Cyrius|&#9998; 13:24, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * :D --Golbez 14:52, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)

Howdy to you, too
How's it going? How'd you find me on here?--AaronS 20:12, 23 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. I watched the anarcho-capitalism page for a while, but then I figured that I'd leave it to people who cared about getting into edit wars and the like.--AaronS 20:48, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

You're a jerk
Golbez: You have violated the rules of Wikipedia as far as deleting the input of other members. In the future, please do not delete postings of others. Read the FAQ and other guidelines.

I agree
Although for completely different things, I agree with the above poster's view of you. The American Towers Tower Colwich article is ridiculous, has no place on an encyclopedia of any sort and the only page that links to it is the List of masts page. Why the hell would anyone want to read a list of masts on an encylopedia is beyond me, but the American Towers Tower Colwich article does need to be deleted. Speedily.--Speedway 19:12, May 16, 2005 (UTC)

Fine OK you are correct. Have a nice day! --Speedway 19:33, May 16, 2005 (UTC)

Kantei
Got the news off Reuters live feed (the financial service, not the web site) after wondering what six helicopters were doing hovering outside my office window. It's now on Yahoo Japan. Cheers Vincent 08:35, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

No prob, and you're right, I didn't know there was an article on the Kanpei. Vincent 01:18, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

U.S. Southern wikipedians' notice board/USSCOTW
The Southern Collaboration of the Week board is now up. Please vote or nominate other articles. The first voting ends on October 3. Mike H 14:20, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

Introductions
Hi, I just thought I'd introduce you two local metro fans to each other.

Golbez meet Montréalais. Montrealais, meet Golbez.

Cheers Vincent 01:27, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Reverts
Saw you use your new admin powers to revert a duplicated edit by Ta bu shi da yu over on List of notable tropical cyclones. You may not be aware, but the rollback function undoes all consecutive edits by the same person. So you ended up undoing the valid part of his edit. Now fixed. -- Cyrius|✎ 01:55, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Aye, thanks, and I saw it. Yes, I'm new to it, and having fun. Teeheehee. But yeah, to me it just looked like doubling, and I learned after making that edit that it does *all* the edits, so I've started checking diffs now. Thanks! --Golbez 01:57, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)

Firefox
I added the remark on Firefox since I discovered today that with Firefox I can see e.g. the Bengali script, which I couldn't see with IE. So therefore it is for that page useful to make a reference. --Gangulf 19:42, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

13 colonies
Hi! Thanks so much for volunteering. I don't know if it's doable, but I'm basically looking for a map with the info that's on these six maps, but that's not under copyright restriction. Thanks. jengod 22:19, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)


 * State claims 1
 * State claims 2
 * State claims 3
 * State claims 4
 * State claims 5
 * State claims 6

Japan and related stuff
What the user 4.23.83.100 is doing is, a very regular Korean trolling and he probably doesn't understand that his actions are very anti-Japanese because he was never taught that a history can have multiple viewpoints. If you check, only thing he does is write about how Koreans were victimzed. It is quite interesting as his IP turned out to be from "Evergreen Medical Group Inc. EMG-83-16 (NET-4-23-83-0-1) 4.23.83.0 - 4.23.83.255 ", either he is doing his writing while hospitalized or while on a job. If you can, I suggest you simply block the IP, I think a company can manage itself without wikipedia. Revth 09:30, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Wikistyle
I suppose you're techically right, but everytime someone's gone back and "fixed" my old articles that way, they generally look better, so for once I beat Everyking et al to the punch and did it myself, but will defer to you on the basis that, at least techically, you're right. Maybe the software will be where it can resolve all of this for us soon, in light of the sucessful recent fundraising especially.

Rlquall 17:51, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

(pictured right)
According to the talk page of WP:ITN, one should use "(pictured right)". Of course it could be discussed wether it is a good policy or not. &mdash; David Remahl 20:45, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)

A spammer we've both dealt with
Hi! I see you blocked 61.144.184.221 recently. That computer added a list of links in meaningless places to two pages of the Maori Wikipedia - http://mi.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=61.144.184.221
 * I dealt with them. Kind regards. Robin Patterson 23:09, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Deletion request
Hey, Golbez, can you do me a favor and delete Brahma? I want to move Brahma (god) there, and I already moved the previous contents of Brahma to Brahman (disambiguation), which I think is a better place for it. Actually, I'm not sure why I can't just do the move myself, since Brahma has no edit history, but apparently I need official intervention. - Nat Krause 06:52, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Korea and Japan
Hi Andrew.. just letting you know, after I blocked User:4.23.83.100 he emailed me. I don't think he knew how to even see what had been happening to his edits, so he kept making them again and again. Anyway, I told him to come here and discuss. :-) &mdash;Stormie 10:42, Oct 17, 2004 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't think I've been called "diplomatic" for blocking someone to get their attention before, so thanks for that. :-) Here's hoping that it does lead to him talking. &mdash;Stormie 21:17, Oct 17, 2004 (UTC)

Hey Golbez, I've noticed that you did lots of reverts of 4.23.83.100's edits because of bias. Not all of his/her edits are biased, and some contain factual additions. Instead of doing complete reverts, how about picking and choosing which of the additions to keep, and then fixing the NPOV sections? --Yuje 02:39, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Tropical cyclone
Raul654 has interpreted tropical cyclone's FAC nomination as a failure. It was closer than most articles, and I wasn't terribly happy with it anyway. Since the start of hurricane season, nearly the entire article has been taken apart, rearranged, and rewritten. I think it needs some time to settle down.

It just needs to be ready for a front page spot come June 1, 2005 :) -- Cyrius|✎ 06:28, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Railroad station article deleted
Hello Golbez, As an author of articles on subway stations, you might be interested to know that an article on a railway station, Route 128 Station, was recently deleted from Wikipedia by a vote of 4 to 2 (I voted against deletion, as did the author). The reasons the voters gave for deletion were


 * 1) It's an advertisement for a railway station. (Huh?)
 * 2) It's non-notable. (That's not in the policy as a reason for deletion.)
 * 3) Wikipedia is not a travel guide. (Right, but what does that have to do with the station?)

The article was well organized and written. It covered a station on a line connecting Washington, New York and Boston.

I've put a lot of work into articles on Tokyo subways, and would not want to start a project on stations given that they might be deleted at any time. I'm surprised by the decision and wonder what fate awaits other articles on railway and subway stations.

Old article is here

Fg2 10:53, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)

"redundant" categories
Placing an article in the categories that its eponymous category belongs to is not redundant&mdash;it is necessary to properly categorize it. Categories perform two functions:

1) They classify articles. Washington, DC is not merely a topic of Category:Washington, DC, but is instead a member of all categories that its own category would belong to.  These relationships need to be visible on the article itself just as much as on its category.  Otherwise, it is not clear from the article's classification that Washington, DC is anything more than sui generis.  It is a city in the United States, as well as a political division of the U.S., and its categories should make that clear.

2) Categories group together common subjects and ease navigation. Anyone visiting Washington, DC should be able to go directly from that article to see other members in any series of which Washington, DC itself is one, as well as to see any article of which DC is the parent topic.  Removing all but its own category not only adds in an unnecessary extra step, but visitors unfamiliar with a topic will not know at a glance, as is supposed to happen with categories, what groups that article belongs to, or whether there are even more articles of that series on wikipedia.

A truly redundant category would be a parent of a subcategory to which the article only belongs to. The article is only one of the series of the subcategory, and so is only subordinate to it rather than an equal to it to be placed within the parent. An example would be placing Georgetown, Washington, DC in both Category:Washington, DC and Category:Washington, DC neighborhoods. There are of course some exceptions to this rule (i.e., United States Constitution is justifiably in the base Category:United States as well as under Category:United States law, Category:United States history, and its own Category:U.S. Constitution. Thanks!  Postdlf 23:50, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Slavery, Cotton Gin, Nat Turner, Eli Whitney
Were your reverts simply because of its lack of integration with the existing article? The material reverted out appears interesting, not badly written - is it not factual? Let me know what you think, I could spend a bit of time properly integrating this material. This may be a new user shy about touching existing text. Please respond here, I will watch, just tickle my user talk with a minor message. Sincerely, Leonard G. 03:52, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

P.S. I saw your comments on the IP user's page - it seemed rather harsh, especially considering that additional details were being added. Rather than completely reverting, the inclusion of a small amount of material would have been encouraging. Your approach and commentary is not the way to integrate IP editors into our community as registered users. Leonard G. 03:57, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * I looked at each article and found that, with the exception of one (Spiritual (music)), the additions offered nothing more than what was included in the article. If there was a fact I missed, please point it out, but I didn't see any. They seemed to be three line summaries of what the article just discussed. I suppose I could have been nicer, but at least I gave a response; he'd already been reverted twice without a mention. I shall probably clarify my note. --Golbez 04:00, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)

I have prepared some additonal remarks for that user which I hope are more welcoming, looks like we crossed edits with you getting there first. I will modify my remarks as needed and post. Thanks, Leonard G. 04:27, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I modified my remarks as appropriate to your changes and posted to User talk:129.44.16.162 &mdash; maybe we can recruit another editor! Leonard G. 04:40, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

No Native Criminal Class Except . ..
Salutations, Golbez! When last we talked back in September you said you hoped to finish getting the state delegation lists done by election day. With a week to go, I wonder how you're coming along on the effort? Don't know if you've seen him around, but User:Acsenray has been doing a lot of work on Ohio congressmen and lately has been working on a big article on political families. Ave! PedanticallySpeaking 16:58, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)

Bridge
(see Talk:Bridge, delete this) - Leonard G. 03:29, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hurricane data
No comment on the horribly ugly table of data I've got over at Talk:2004 Atlantic hurricane season? -- Cyrius|✎ 04:31, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

re Tropical cyclones
It looks as if your good work, like mine and others on "Bicycles", got blown out of the water on the Sea of "Featured articles". I got pretty pissed at some of the pissy stuff people call one on, but I guess some folks don't like reading what an American has to say about something worldwide, like bikes and storms. I now know lots more (than I needed to know) about bicycles in other countries. The only thing I am left still steaming about from that experience is the one yahoo who entered a new "object" vote atop each of his (mostly lame) comments. After multiple rewrites, it ended up 7-2, but looked like about 7-8 due to this one bozo. Hang in there.Sfahey 03:36, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Are you an admin?
Are you an admin yet? If not would you accept nomination? Regardless of your answers, cheers on your splendid work -- I've been mostly reading around, following 'what links here' on interesting pages, and I've noticed your name on a few significant contributions/fixes and outright rescues. Just in case you were not yet an admin, thought I'd bring it up.Pedant 01:32, 2004 Nov 6 (UTC) In that case, congratulations!Pedant

Culture of Greece
Culture of Greece is this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.

Cyclone Tracy
Why poor form? - Ta bu shi da yu 17:05, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Teh storm owns u! :P - Ta bu shi da yu 13:51, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

80.58.5.109
Nice work tracking down the external links spamming from the anon user @ 80.58.5.109! Neilc 10:43, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

lol
Now there is a blast from the past. I see you have been here for awhile already, but welcome to wikipedia all the same =) Kev 20:53, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

speedy delete
Ronny_Paul also needs some speedy deleting please

Revert on In the News
Why did you do this? You have said you'll take to talk but I can't see anything. I was trying to come to a compromise with the anon (I quoted directly from the BBC piece, and he added extra information to it). Why did you revert to what you wrote before? - Ta bu shi da yu 11:09, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * To make a point. I quickly wrote it up in Discussion, you simply looked between edits. :) I won't challenge a further revert; I did that to direct attention to talk, to air my concerns. --Golbez 11:11, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)


 * There must be better ways of attracting attention! but OK, that's fair enough. - Ta bu shi da yu 11:12, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Incidently, I appreciate you going to talk about it. - Ta bu shi da yu 11:14, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

U.S. embargo against Cuba
You voted for U.S. embargo against Cuba, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.

Wikinews demo up and running
Hi!

I'm writing to let you know that the Wikimedia Board of Trustees has approved the first stage of the Wikinews project. There's now a fully operational English demo site at demo.wikinews.org. This will be used for experimenting with various review models and basic policies before the site is launched officially in about a week. demo.wikinews.org will become the English version later. You voted for the Wikinews project, so I'm asking for your participation now. Everything is open, nothing is final. What Wikinews will and can be depends in large part on you. There already is a global Wikinews mailing list for discussing the project. If you are interested at all, please subscribe -- coordination is of key importance. There's also an IRC channel #wikinews on irc.freenode.net. Realtime discussion can help to polish up articles. If you're looking for something to do, check out the articles in development and articles in review. Or start a new story in the Wikinews workspace, or ignore the proposed review system - it's up to you. I hope you'll join us soon in this exciting experiment.--Eloquence* 01:58, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

Occupation colonies
I've responded on the Talk:Yasser Arafat page regarding the use of that term; I'd be curious as to your thoughts. Jayjg 21:58, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Well, to be honest, ever since a couple of new editors showed up about a month or so ago, these articles have been extremely, shall we say, "heated". That said, neutral 3rd party observations are always helpful in diffusing conflict, so I welcome your intervention. I hope you'll stick around, and don't let the (inevitable) personal comments bother you. Jayjg 22:33, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Reference the ISD
The old blueprints are talking about a ship that is not of the same size as the current ISD. Furthermore more recent offical literature clearly labels the ship as the Imperial class. Older canon materials are invalidated by newer canon materials. The proper name for the ISD is Imperial, not Imperator. -Alyeska

Revert: accidental or intentional
Hi Golbez. Regarding September 11 2001 attacks article, I'm not sure if you reverted my edit just now accidentally or not, so I've managed to restore my edits. I've also added a section to the talk page for the article on how best to proceed, asking for comments and ideas. I agree with you that it doesn't look ideal with the URLs in the first few sentences as it currently is, but rather than deleting them, they should remain but be relocated. At least, that's my understanding of Wikipedia policy so far. Cheers, --Rebroad 22:33, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Partition of India
You voted for Partition of India, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.

It isn't THAT unsightly, is it?

 * I created that as a template so the unsure of order would know how to take part in a featured article. I honestly though it'd be a help; if I thought it was unsightly I assure you I wouldn't have put it up. -Litefantastic 01:50, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Okay. I see your point. I've put it on all the pages it links to. -Litefantastic 02:02, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hello, You are golby, you are smart. please comment here, your voice sways all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Improv/lib_draft_dec2004 Chuck F 20:10, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:


 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk) 18:08, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

Adminship
Salve, Golbez! Back in September I was a candidate for adminship, but I withdrew and since then, I've been working away and have now decided to try again, nominating myself. Though you voted neutral at that time, I'd appreciate your vote on the new candidacy at Requests for adminship/PedanticallySpeaking2. Ave atque vale! PedanticallySpeaking 19:19, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * Salve, Golbez! I wanted to drop you a line to thank you for your support in my successful RFA candidacy. It was very gratifying to see the kind remarks posted in the debate.  Ave!  PedanticallySpeaking 17:40, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

Semantic wikipedia
Hi golbez. I added some good comments on your Semantic Wikipedia proposal. I hope you evaluate them.--Alexandre Van de Sande 14:28, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

sofixit
Heya, I noticed you remind an anon user he could fix things himself on a talk page. This excellent point can be brought across verbosely yet with little effort with the template (just in case you weren't aware of it). Be sure to subst: it though, or it might come across as curt when the user edits the page. &0xfeff; --fvw *  23:08, 2004 Dec 20 (UTC)

Maps
Well, its quite a complex (or rather, long-winded) technique I use. I draw the maps massively oversize using a soft paint tool in the gimp. I then reduce the colour depth to 1-bit, up it back again to 24-bit, fill in the colour and resize downwards (thus they end up nicely antialiased). You can see some of my intermediate blown up blank maps at Blank maps somewhere. Morwen - Talk 16:21, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

City of Washington DC Layout
Hello-

I have reverted the Washington DC page to include the use of diagonal Avenues in its defense. This idea is covered by the national building museum and numerous texts. It is important to include this as the city in District of Columbia was conceived using warfare standards for defense formed in the 18th century. Unlike Paris, which grew from village to national capitol, Washington (city) was designed from the beginning (and purposfully) with visual sightlines.

James Goode has also dicussed this facet of the design at several of his lectures, most recently upon the reissue of Capitol Losses. The National Building Museuum also discusses this in the book issued to coincide with their permanent display, Washington: The Making of a City, although I can not find it on their web site.

I did find this reference in a Washington DC Junior League history on the city: "Charles L'Enfant drew on the magnificance remembered from the Versailles of his childhood. (Thomas) Jefferson... urging wider avenues and broader vistas..." Does this help? Hope so...

Best regards,

Stude62

Blocks are not expiring
I'm posting this message on every admin who has made a block in the last few days. The title says it all really: because of a bug in the new software blocks are not expiring when their time is up. Until this is fixed can you get in the habit of manually unblocking a few everytime you block one. If everyone does this we'll be able to keep on top of things until the bug is sorted out. Note also that another bug is displaying indefinite blocks as expiring at the current time and date. obviously you don't want to unblock those. If you want to reply please do so here Theresa Knott  (The snott rake) 09:44, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

nice touch...
... just now on "Christmas". I can't yet face the rest of the hammering it took on the holiday weekend.Sfahey 16:20, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

66.191.165.51 needs blocking
Is anybody home at Vandalism in progress ??

He has been warned multiple times, but keeps blanking his talk page.

-- Curps 20:44, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

RC patrol
It's turned off at the MediaWiki level. -- Cyrius|✎ 19:15, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * No idea why. I've got some guesses, but no facts. -- Cyrius|✎

commons:Image:Bolivia departments.png and commons:Image:Bolivia departments named.png
Theese seem to be basically the same thing. One is apparently copied from an image you uploaded to en (though that image is gone from en) the other was uploaded by you to commons.

also the images show different licenses.

What (if anything) do you think should be done about this? Plugwash 00:42, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Would you mind appending a key to the table in your profile so I can interpret it? =) Ground 17:50, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

SlipKnot
Thank you for offering to create an entry for SlipKnot, the web browser. I have just done so. It is, as yet, only reachable via the link on the List of web browsers page.

-- Peter Brooks (SlipKnot author). --Pbrooks 22:17, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Golbez, for the SlipKnot edits. I've edited only a few Wikipedia pages before, so perhaps you can answer the following question: why is the SlipKnot page accessible only from the link on the List of web browsers page? I can't get to it any other way within Wikipedia (neither via Go nor Search)...--Pbrooks 06:17, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

physical information

 * I marked this article as needing cleanup because it reads like original research. This in itself is not bad, but it definitely needs reworking. It's full of HTML, and worse, full of first-person mentions. ("we will use the phrase nugget of information", "This will enable us to refer", etc.) I tried to clean it myself but got bogged down in trying to figure out a more neutral way to state things. --Golbez 20:57, Jan 20, 2005 (UTC)

"We" and "us" used in that way are not first-person at all; they are not to be taken literally. It is commonplace in writing mathematics to use such locutions involving first-person plural pronouns without intending them literally. Michael Hardy 23:38, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Collaboration of the week
Military history of the Soviet Union is this week's Collaboration of the Week. Please contribute to it to help make it a feature article

Earthscholar
It all happened in the first blush of excitement about Wikipedia, I'm afraid. A friend had used the word in an essay and shown it to me, insisting that it was a real word and even suggesting that I post an entry about it. I did. It was a hoax -- I was set up. I'm older and wiser now. Thanks for deleting it Sandover 18:16, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Heya, backatcha :-)
Well, Adams-Morgan/Kalorama. Another Wikipedian contacted me about looking over the Washington, DC page, another on home rule for the District. Since you lived here for quite some time, you may want to drop by and take a look. (I haven't taken the time, yet, but I suppose I'll get around to it eventually.) Glad you understood I wasn't simply trying to be dimissive when I referred you to the discussion in African American. Peace 2 u. deeceevoice 22:28, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Don't know about that article on "black flight." It's not a phrase in common use. Gentrification is more like it. "White flight" -- yes, but don't know about a black version (unless they're runnin' away from rents, mortgages and property taxes they can no longer afford)! Actually, decent affordable housing is hard to find, period; it's a regional problem for the middle-class and the poor -- teachers, firefighters, secretaries, etc. And the only white flight that's occurring is back inside the beltway, of well-heeled (mostly white) professionals displacing retirees, families with young children (who also leave because of the crappy schools), people on fixed incomes and old communities of color. deeceevoice 19:47, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
I know what you mean about flag. I honestly was nowhere near as negative about your presence as I know I came across, there was something about the atmosphere on flag that encourages that kind of contention (it is one of the reasons I left actually, along with a couple other regulars). I know you tried on the anarcho-capitalist article, and I appreciate it. That article needs more ancaps like yourself. There is another gentlemen named Radgeek who does a terrific job with his edits and is also pro-anarcho-capitalist, but I think the constant struggle bogs him down as well. You might want to try to work with him in the future, I think you will find him both knowledgable and reasonable. I don't blame you for shying away from these topics, they drive me crazy. I myself found it so easy to get wrapped up in the wars that go on over controversial articles that I have limited myself to editing only articles directly related to anarchism, sorta the opposite way of dealing with the problem I suppose.

Anyway, I wouldn't really worry, there have been several RJ types come and gone over the past couple years I've been on wiki. I would only ask that you come back and try again in a month or a few months when the whole thing has settled down. I also take extended breaks from the article, so if my presence frustrates you there are still ample opportunities to avoid it =) I certainly won't agree with all your edits, but I look forward to the opportunity of having that article rewritten by someone both knowledgable about that particular subject, sympathic to its cause, and reasonable to other points of view.  Kev 01:48, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!
Just a quick "thank you" for voting me for admin. Now all I've got to do is find out how to use these worrying new powers... oh, and I've nearly got to 14000 now :) Grutness|hello?  06:14, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Djibouti/Brunei regional maps
Hello, I was wondering if you could consider making regional maps for Mauritania, in the same style as your excellent Diboutian and Bruneian maps. I would do it myself, but I don't know how. Thnaks for your time, - sdrawkcab

thanks
The Mauritanian maps are wonderful, thanks. It's a strnage place regionally speaking.

It would be nice if every country in the world has a regional map. if thee's any maps you want to do, yet the region pages have to been done then I'd be happy to do that for you.

- sdrawkcab

Algerian maps
Hi Golbez, I gather that you are doing beautiful things with maps. I came here to ask if you maybe could provide me with the source (preferably in vector format) of Image:Algeria_provinces.png (or, in fact, if I may license it from you under the CC-by-sa-2.0 license). I'm intending to make some maps of the election results in the nineties and a map with the province boundaries obviously would be of great use. Let me know what you think. Regards,  &mdash; mark ✎ 01:09, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Great! If you have it as a bitmap, the highest possible resolution will do. If you could export it to PNG at that resolution it would be nice &mdash; I'm not working with The Gimp. I've emailed to to let you know my emailadres. Thanks again!  &mdash; mark ✎ 16:22, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Maybe the mail went astray. You can reach me via the 'email this user' function. Thanks in advance!  &mdash; mark ✎ 10:00, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Take it easy, such things happen. Kind regards,  &mdash; mark ✎ 19:06, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Parishes of Barbados
would like to turn them uppercase, because of harmonization of titles for subnational entities, thanks for an answer at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Subnational entities. Dominica parishes seem to go uppercase (if the articles start one day) best regards Tobias Conradi 12:56, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

NationsBank
I disagree in your asseration that the "old" bank should remain as a history in the case of only a name change. NationsBank IS Bank of America. It simply changed names when it purchased BankAmerica. The Bank of America page was confusing without the NationsBank information because someone just put in the BankAmerica information (and acutally used Bank of America and BankAmerica interchangeably, which was incorrect). I did not delete the NationsBank history. It is now included in the Bank of America page (since Bank of America and NationsBank are the same company).

I would advocate your position for BankAmerica because, as a company, it is defunct (NationsBank is not defunct...it just changed names). Obviously, in a merger, one company always survives and consumes the other.

When companies merge, I think it creates a lot of confusion. I think the easiest (and least confusing) is to have a page with the new companies name, with the history of both previous (major) companies on the same page. This allows a reader to get a full history without having to link to several different pages.

First Union/Wachovia
Thank you for your comments. Again, my reasoning for assimilating the First Union information into the Wachovia article is because Wachovia IS First Union.

That Wachovia page technically deals with what used to be First Union, and then changed its name to Wachovia. I guess I am thinking linearly in that: Pre-2001, Wachovia page deals with Wachovia Corp based in Winston-Salem, First Union page deals with First Union based in Charlotte.

2001, Old Wachovia no longer exists, First Union changes name to Wachovia. (So I see the Wachovia page as dealing with the NEW Wachovia/OLD First Union as opposed to the OLD Wachovia)

Again, I think it is an easier read when companies merge to combine the histories onto one page. Especially with FU because it took the name of the bank it was purchasing (having FU backgound in Wachovia article is important to understand why First Union changed its name to someone who doesn't understand it)


 * By the way, I have pulled off the Legacy Wachovia logo from their old website. Perhaps you would like to clean it up a bit and post it in history section of the Wachovia article? 69.134.50.153 20:36, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pope template
Please stop adding that pope template, as he is the only pope alive, it doesn't make sense to have a template for himself. :) —Cantus…  ☎   20:50, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

pope image
This image: Image:Popebenedictxvi firsttimeonthrone.jpg is claimed to be from the Vatican, yet there is no information on its source. It could well be from a news agency. I have removed the vatican tag, yet a certain user keeps adding it. —Cantus… ☎   04:23, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

Earthquake
Don't events have proper names? Where in the style guide is this convention? Sorry if I caused any inconvenience. --L33tminion (talk) 01:18, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)


 * Ah, thanks for the clarification. I'll be more careful in the future.  --L33tminion (talk) 04:22, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)

Revert on Something Awful Forums
Just out of interest, why did you revert the changes made by the anon user? Trampled talk 06:46, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah okay. I wasn't sure if you objected to the wording or something :) Trampled talk 14:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Strong Bad
good call on the Strong Bad edit, moving the link out of the header. i was hoping the guy who'd done it would recant, but... (silly me) SaltyPig 07:34, 2005 May 2 (UTC)

Adolf Hitler
I just add "totallydisputed" template. I don't think you should consider it as a vandal.

Barbara and Jenna Bush
Hi, why did you remove their codenames? Thanks,--> Energy (talk) 10:10, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Gender
Hi Andrew: I am not sure how I missed your emboldened male name when I read your user page. Weird wooliness, I suppose, but regretted all the same. --Theo (Talk) 09:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
 * You were half right: I was voting without reading your page properly! --Theo (Talk) 14:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Taiwan is part of China
It has yet to achive independance. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_independence)

The official UN and USA stance is that there is only 1 China. And the communists in Beijing is the sole legal government of China, including Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macao.

Further, the USA has specifically said on many occasions that it does not support Taiwan independance.

You may want to read up on that point, if you're not already well versed on it. But this should be settled ancient history going back to the Nixon administration...



Ps - Please self revert edits you made which run contrary to this point.

Adolf Hitler (2)
I see you "cleaned up" a little, effectively reverting the thing to what it was before Haham hanuka started editing it and I edited in response. (Well, almost.) Mind you, I couldn't disagree more with HH, but do you really see no merit in elaborating on the cause of WW II? Mentioning the declaration of war in response doesn't seem overly unbalancing. JRM · Talk 17:48, 2005 May 15 (UTC)

Regarding Account Suspension.
This query is for the administrator Golbez.

To Golbez:

I may have mistakingly used an explicative in: Talk: Evil. Is this the reason for my user page vandal status?

My number is: 152.163.100.201

--Scroll1 01:00, 17 May 2005 (UTC)


 * No, it was for incidents like this. However, your ip may be shared among others (since it's an AOL machine), and it may not have been you that did it. Blocks of that type should only exist for a few minutes at at time. --Golbez 01:13, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

Hurricane project
I seem to be back. -- Cyrius|✎ 06:04, 18 May 2005 (UTC)


 * I've got a copy of the 1851 to 2003 "HURDAT" file, and a small program I wrote to parse out information like "maximum winds" for a storm (or for all storms in a given year). So getting that for 1953-79 wouldn't be hard.


 * It looks like with the 2004 update, they've added a newer and less horrible format option. Hmm.


 * I've got no idea about how Wikinews operates, so I can't give you any advice there. Adrian's definitely looking interesting though. -- Cyrius|✎ 16:50, 18 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Hope you'll get the time to create more of the Pacific Seasons - my Typhoon Gay (1989) article is still nearly an orphan :-) andy 12:15, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Al-Qaeda Dates
Thanks for reverting this - that was quick. Rich Farmbrough 16:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

U.S. Congressional Delegations from Tennessee
Hey Golbez, nice job on the articles. However, I found a weird thing in U.S. Congressional Delegations from Tennessee: How can Joe L. Evins serve in 2 different congressional seats at the same time (TN Districts 4 and 5, 84th Congress, 1955 - 1957)? --Lst27 ( t a l k )  21:49, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Germany
Congratulations for your efforts to clean up the Germany section. I tried it once, but some people (read Heimdal) immediately started an edit war. Since then, I abandoned the hope to see the Germany article improve, but now I have new hope. Be assured of my support to uphold your improvements. Luis rib 16:58, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

The history section should NOT be a disconnected incoherent accumulation of events happened in Germany if you've understood it like this. A revolution broke out? Why? Like you explained it, it must have been the consequence of a second big bang. The revolutions, especially the French one, were the main catalyst of the German revolution. The population wanted a republic badly. The French, for example, got a republic with the aid of a revolution. It's not that hard to understand. Why did you delete Metternich? This German was the most prominent politician for decades. I could understand if you deleted an enumeration of all the reforms and liberal movements that happened, but that was a SUMMARY. This century, because of its complexity called the "long 19th century" is of great importance for the German history. It is the only one who gives reasons for the second thiry-years-war (WW1&WW2) as a growing number of historians refer to it. I wonder why you were not picky in regard with "Third Reich". I would love to show you a summary of Germany from a book covering two pages to give you an idea how the proportion should be. Would that somehow be okay without violating the copyright?NightBeAsT 18:35, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I copied this from the German wikipedia of Metternich.

"Durch seinen Vorsitz auf dem Wiener Kongress war er maßgeblich an der Umwandlung des Befreiungsgedankens in die Restauration beteiligt. Durch die enge Zusammenarbeit der Großmächte (Heilige Allianz) und der Zersplitterung Deutschlands, Italiens und Polens sicherte er die Vormachtstellung Österreichs im Deutschen Bund und in Italien.

Dieses Gefüge politischer Leitlinien wurde als »Metternichsches System« bekannt. Es hatte die Aufrechterhaltung der politischen und sozialen Ordnung, den Kampf gegen alle nationalen, liberalen und revolutionären Bewegungen sowie die Sicherung des europäischen Gleichgewichts zum Ziel. Metternich gilt damit als der Inbegriff der "Restauration" im Vormärz."

I don't know if you can speak German but in the English wikipedia the text should be similar. Basically Metternich's significance can even be justified in one term: the embodiment of the restoration. The liberal and democratic forces, and Metternich's went back and forth. Metternich was the leading person in the German Confederation. He initiated the Karlsbader Beschlüsse, which repressed the intellectuals (professors and students), censored books, magazines and newspapers and had revolutionary movements by a commission observed. Everyone who was against the Restauration was repressed by the following "Demagogengesetze", especially the intellectuals, who could lose the right to learn (students) and the right to teach (professors). Later the Kalsbader Beschlüsse were fortified.

The German revolution was not only carried by the revolution in France although that provided them the prospect of a revolution. Prior to that the horrors of the French Revolution didn't really persuade people to try a revolution. In the new French revolution the military, however, remained idle though. Also or especially mass poverty and famines were the reasons for the German revolutions (not uncommon in Europe at all around 1848). People like Büchner demanded political change. The "uprising of the silesian weavers 1844" was one result of the famine. This protest was beaten down by the princes. Heinrich Heine ... Karl Marx ... this leads to the "social question" and this, in turn, to the completely understated Industrial Revolution, which is nothing but the first step of the stated industrialization. Where is the Enlightenment in the article by the way? Prussia was the first to carry it out even if its origin were in France. And you want to summarize THOSE sections rather than war reports of WW2 or the Weimarer Republik? The book I talked about reserved one of two sides for Germany in the middle ages. The second makes up one fourth for "The Revolution of 1848", one fifth for "The German Empire", one fourth for "National socialism and second world war" and one fifth for "Division and reunification", the rest for captions and a list of Presidents and chancellors since 1949. I'm afraid, I cannot recognize a similar proportion in the German history article. The book I talked about is not German, but was translated. Its original title is "The Dorling Kindersley History of the World". To prove I didn't lie about that proportion, I can scan these two pages tomorrow, somehow portray them and you can delete them after seing it. Or is this little copyright violation that certainly nobody would mind because it could even be seen as advertisement intolerable?NightBeAsT 20:18, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No, I mean a scan of two pages. Except for their proportion they resemble the history section of the Germany article very much (esp. the pictures) and the pages could be used as a guideline on how the history section should be basically proportioned. Of course it could immediately after seing what the proportion is be deleted. I don't know much about copyright but just showing two pages and deleting what was showed right after, would that be acceptable? I don't know how I could prove it otherwise. Or would it be enough to state the ISBN as proof?NightBeAsT 20:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hello. Sorry, have been away over the weekend. In reply to your post. There is an ongoing disagreement on the Germany page as to how long the article should be. Some would like to reduce the page to no longer than 32KB, others (me included) would like to expand it further. You appear to be on the side of those who want to shorten the article. However, as I've explained on the talk page already, the Germany article (current size: 45KB) is not really so long as to justify the deletions and the shortening. Some articles are much longer, actually: see France, which was 51KB long the last time I've checked it, or the United States page (55KB). That's the reason why I've continued to revert you. So here's my suggestion. In the absence of a consensus, let the page move back and forth between two versions for some time: between a longer and a shorter version. Allow the people who use and read the article to make up their own mind about which version is better, and which one they want to edit. I for my part would revert the page no more than once a day. Also when reverting, I would make sure to save the edits by other users. With time, consensus may be found, and the article may stabilise. - Heimdal 09:29, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The Village Pump-discussion
No, you definitly said nothing wrong. He was hostile from the start and wanted to take offence. I was impressed with the way you kept your head cool while he was being offesive. Gkhan 06:25, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

McEwen as a FAC
Salve, Golbez! Haven't talked to you in a while; hope all is well. I've nom'd one of my articles on a congressman at Featured article candidates/Bob McEwen and would appreciate your comments. PedanticallySpeaking 14:38, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

Telling Metro Trains Apart
The different kinds of Metro trains can be told apart by their appearance and sounds.

On the exterior, Rohr cars have a metal edge around the cab windows, and have two sign windows on the sides (one is converted to a speaker). On the interior, Rohr cars have the orange interior, extra side-facing seats near the doors, extra windscreens, and metal handrails on top of the seats. They make a low whine when they take off and arrive.

"Classic" Breda cars (those that have not been rehabilitated) have a rubber edge around the cab windows. The corners are squared off on the 2000 and 3000 series cars, and rounded on the 4000 series cars. These cars also sport the orange interior, with brown rubber handrails on top of the seats. Most of these cars also sport a builder's plate at the ends of the car. These cars make a buzzing sound when taking off and arriving.

The exterior of the CAF cars, numbered in the 5000's, have LED signage instead of flip-dot signs. The black rubber edge around the cab windows is far wider than the Breda cars. The CAF cars sport the new interior color scheme, have a different door chime, and have LED displays inside the car indicating the next station. Listening to the CAFs, these cars make a smooth, high-pitched whine when taking off and arriving.

Those Breda 2000 and 3000 series cars that have been rehabilitated by Alstom have the exterior LED signs like the CAF cars. Additionally, all exterior lights on these rehabilitated cars are LED, except for the headlights. The interior of the car has the new color scheme, with LED displays that, unlike the CAF cars, are flush with the rest of the wall panel. These cars also feature glow-in-the-dark emergency signage on the interior and exterior of the cars. These cars make an interesting sound - they make a high-pitched whine that goes up and down in pitch as they take off and arrive.

There are also 182 (if I'm not mistaken) 6000-series cars that will be arriving in the next few years manufactured by Alstom. These are supposed to have a modified floor configuration, among other changes from previous cars.

Schuminweb 18:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Infobox for Joseph Smith, Jr.
Hi! Thanks for asking about this. Because of the nature of JS's role in the Latter Day Saint movement, the standard LDSInfobox won't work for him, and templates used in only one article are also frowned on. So I choose to create the subpage because it seemed to be a resonable thing to accomodate the need. If you put the full table in the article it complicates it and is a target for vandalism that is more difficult to fix than the simple reference that is currently used. I know that subpages are frowned on, but this seemed like a good use for the functionality that didn't really mess anything up.

FYI, there is a similar one at Gordon B. Hinckley, and now that the issue of using meta-templates for formatting simplicity seems resolved in favor of keeping them, I was planning on returning that one to LDSInfobox since the LDSInfobox/alive and LDSInfobox/dead are no longer in danger of being listed on TfD. Then I will speedy the GBH/Infobox since I am the primary editor. Trödel| talk 02:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I have listed the GBH/Infobox for speedy Trödel| talk 03:44, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

In the news - quick removal needed
Please remove "Anurag Kashyap, an eighth-grader..." quickly from the ITN. This one has absolutely no international relevance. As an anonymous put it: "Did I miss something? Is it April Fools Day again?" --Edcolins 19:55, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

Well, it looked so esoteric.. I had never heard about such kind of obscure contest, but maybe I am completely out-of-date. Honestly, you cannot have thought this may have any international relevance - that's a criterion btw: "It should ideally be a story of an international importance, or at least interest."... --

WMATA
I got the template idea off the London Underground template, it's the system they used. I couldent figure out how to incorperate directions into the header template, though i just might change it to next station to both. I just got tired at look at, no offence if you pur them in, second rate nave boxes for the system, compared to the some of the other nave boxes i have seen. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 07:23, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Minuscule
Hi Golbez,

The use of minuscule (i.e. lower-case) in manuscripts was only introduced in around the 9th-Century. Up to that point there was no distinct upper/lower case, and so I provide a rendering of the text in the lists as it would have appeared at the time. --JohnArmagh 11:53, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your support
Thank you for supporting my candidacy for administrator. Kelly Martin 15:13, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reverting my user page. Shockingly, I've been here a year and a half now, and that was the first real vandalism anyone has done to it. --Michael Snow 18:51, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Mas*
That's because I'm about to transplant the discussion on WP:RfD about Commonwealth of Massachussets to Talk:Commonwealth of Massachussets, and I'm linking the talk pages of all the other typo redirect pages to that one because the same logic applies to all of them. Noel (talk) 05:01, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Yeah, about half of the potential single/double S/T mis-spellings (the correct spelling has 2-1-2) already existed (no idea why those particular ones were selected out), so I figured I might as well fill out the set, and link all the talk pages together, all at the same time (easy that way). Noel (talk) 05:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ah, thank you!
For the revert on my user page. I appreciate it! Shiri &mdash; Talk 05:16, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

Gasoline / Petrol
Thanks very much for protecting the pages! I suspected that the ridiculous edit war was about to resume, but I was unable to enlist an uninvolved admin to preemptively intervene.

Incidentally, the second talk archive page was created by a user who removed the on-going discussion (which I then restored) as an act of vandalism. It should be deleted immediately. &mdash;Lifeisunfair 21:55, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks again for your prompt response! :) &mdash;Lifeisunfair 22:27, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

additions
no. i didnt make the anon entry, ive just been out ofthe loop for a while, sorry... Gabrielsimon 07:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Re: Apology
I know which one you mean, but I took no offense - it was an just an unintentional oversight on my part that I did not include the citizen part & I have a pretty thick skin --JimWae 04:27, 2005 Jun 17 (UTC)

Vfd
Great job on cleaning up VfD. I would help out, but I hate to take the flak from the inclusionists. Not a good idea to rile them up. RickK 07:29, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

VfD
When closing VfD discussions, please put a link to the discussion in the delete reason. It makes the discussion much easier to find (and, in some cases where the page was renamed or it is a second nomination, possible to find for non-admins). --cesarb 20:00, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

U.S. Southern wikipedians' notice board
I have now reopened the notice board, if you are interested in contributing new topics, or in nominating articles for the Collaboration of the Week, which also received a revamp. Please post on the project's talk page if you show interest. Mike H 02:44, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Istanbul pogroms page
Any chance of the deleted notice and protection on there? the guy who wrote it regularly recreates VFD'ed pages. Thanks. --Kiand 22:17, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, you can see what I mean at Stop Drinking Soda or Hellenic Genocide (that one is his, btw). Protected page, notice saying its deleted and not to be recreated. Both those had to be brought in after rapid-fire replacements and speedies, though; just was hoping it could be pre-emptively done here. --Kiand 22:22, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks. One less page to tag-team revert when he gets unbanned in the next few days. --Kiand 22:45, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hey, great hearing from you! Thanks so much for the welcome. Sadly, I've logged on just in time to find that RickK has now left the building and that he's rather bitter about it. Oh, well...

Anyway, please don't be a stranger. Drop by my talk page anytime. Best, Lucky 6.9 04:44, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Tekken
Hi - I saw you edited my edit - why no need for hiragana? is it WP policy? Paul Tracyundefined

Edip Yuksel VfD
Hey Golbez...I made a note that this article was posted for undeletion. Since the VfD had already been closed, I put my comment below the closing tag, per instructions. When I noticed that the tag had been moved, I assumed it was a mistake by Khizar (he did, after all, vote from an IP and on the VfD page, not the undelete page), but noticed it was you that had moved the tag. Was I wrong in placing it below? --MikeJ9919 1 July 2005 02:22 (UTC)

Thanks for helping with the vandal Lolwtf
My appreciation and gratitude Agriculture 1 July 2005 21:07 (UTC)

Your discussion on speedy overkill
I just ran into a slightly old thread you participated in at In the thread you go out of your way to debate a newbie in an effort to defend the deletions of a few short texts. In particular I'd like you to pay attention to how user Shanes addressed the issue and how it differed from your reply. I believe a typical reader would find your tone hostile and argumentative, and that isn't the image that we want to convey to any editor and especially not to a newbie. In the future please consider your words more carefully, the user in question was trying to help... sure he was wrong, and needs to learn a bit, but beating him with a verbal stick is no way to help him. Thanks. Gmaxwell 4 July 2005 23:46 (UTC)

Re: More on Metro
I actually didn't write that section referring to the P signal in the reverse direction of the pocket track. 84.148.74.227 wrote that. I am, however, going past the Mt. Vernon Square pocket track tomorrow in my travels, as well as past West Falls Church-VT/UVA station (where the center track is essentially a pocket track), and I'll try to get a seat at the end of the train and check 'er out.

I've also posted the question on SubChat, and we'll see what that group comes up with.

Schuminweb 6 July 2005 02:09 (UTC)


 * Not offended at all. Actually kind of flattered.  Anyway, though, here's the SubChat thread.  Schuminweb 6 July 2005 02:17 (UTC)


 * Subchat worked! I fixed the unclear comment.  Also, it's interesting, with the photo of that CAF train at Metro Center (that works there, when you think about it).  I remember that when I took that, they were just beginning to recover from a delay caused by a sick passenger at Farragut North, which required single-tracking around the affected area.  I want to say this was the first train going to Shady Grove after two Glenmont trains wrong-railed through.  Schuminweb 7 July 2005 21:04 (UTC)

Katamari Damacy
Thanks for the edit (English "Damacy"). I was just about to correct that. Good work (and fast like a ninja)!

Undeletion
On second thought, why don't you go ahead and undelete my Supreme Court templates, and User:Philwelch/To_do while you're at it. If anything they can be useful source material for the replacement templates. Thanks. &mdash; Phil Welch 8 July 2005 04:48 (UTC)

Hurricane Dennis page
Good call in deciding to go straight to the name page. After all, Hurricane Dennis is in a position to be retired as of now. (I think there will be 5 or 6 names knocked off the list in the 2005 season which would be a record - they will have a lot of work ahead in finding replacement names for the 2011 season). My BOLD predictions as of now - Emily, Franklin, Irene, Katrina and Maria will also join Dennis in the retirement home. CrazyC83 8 July 2005 04:59 (UTC)

It was just taking a lot of time, and I'd (obviously) stopped doing it after quitting wikipedia and now I've come back I haven't started again.

The colour scheme was somewhat random. You will note a pattern for England: red, Scotland: blue, Wales: green, Ireland:green, Northern Ireland: red, that where an obvious 'national colour' was available or a colour that predominated on the flag... i chose that. Apparently however the green maps looked really bad when converted to black-and-white so I stopped doing those. And I started to add the sea to maps, which used blue. Morwen - Talk 9 July 2005 09:49 (UTC)

Good Move
Good move protecting George W. Bush; looks like he's moved on to Star Wars articles & Dick Cheney: Anyhow, good job! -- Essjay ·  Talk July 9, 2005 10:19 (UTC)


 * Ah, well, good work anyway. He's back as 139.55.55.122 and harassing at Talk:George W. Bush; is there a point at which someone calls ALLTEL and says "this subscriber is violating his terms of service"? -- Essjay ·  Talk July 9, 2005 11:07 (UTC)


 * I was just about to complement that. You'll have to ban his IP RANGE. User:139.55.55.122 just ban all of 139.55 Redwolf24 9 July 2005 11:31 (UTC)


 * I just got threatened with a 3RR block by User:Violetriga for fighting him. In 1300 edits, I've never been threatened, reverted, or otherwise out-edited; if I didn't know it would be worthless, I'd report her to RfC/Admin Abuse -- Essjay ·  Talk July 9, 2005 11:57 (UTC)

I feel the need to apologize here (since I made my comments here) for what I said about User:Violetriga. She & I have discussed what went on, chalked it up to a misunderstanding all around, and put it in the past. This is just me saying mea culpa. -- Essjay ·  Talk July 9, 2005 14:14 (UTC)

In the News
Like you said needed to be done, the 31st G8 summit page has been updated. This story mighn't be as in the news as it was a day or so ago, but consider it for the template anyway. Thanks. Harro5 10:50, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

African-American
I won't revert, I will just readd it then. 64.109.253.204 19:27, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Anthony Quinn
Anthony Quinnn was born in Mexico, but he was raised in the USA so he can qualify as a Irish-American. 64.109.253.204 19:40, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

How does having an Irish father so including him on the list of Irish Americans mean it's using a stupidly broad requirement? 64.109.253.204 19:47, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Being 50% Irish means you are an Irish-American. Anthony Quinn, having an Irish father makes him clearly an Irish-American.

You aren't as Irish as Anthony Quinn. Anthony Quinn is very Irish, you're Irish heritage is very minor.

If it were up to me, I wouldn't want the people with little Irish heritage on the list. It's Lapsed Pacifist's doing. 64.109.253.204 01:10, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

If you are mixed with two different parents, does that mean you can not belong to the ethnic group of either of your parents? Is Lenny Kravitz not an African-American because his father isn't? 64.109.253.204 01:10, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Crossmaglen
Six Counties is used almost exclusively in Crossmaglen when referring to Northern Ireland. There's no reason to break the Ireland link. "People" instead of "local people", "police" instead of RUC, none of this I understand.

Lapsed Pacifist 03:40, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

No problem.

Lapsed Pacifist 05:34, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Look, the only problem is that there is no proper debate on this, it's too limited. User:Wikibofh started a discussion on criteria for all ethnic lists over at Village pump (policy), but that has not attracted much interest either. He also left word on the talk pages of other ethnic-American lists, still no response. Think about leaving your thoughts there before you wash your hands of it. Thanks.

Lapsed Pacifist 21:19, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Hurricane names
Can you supply a link backing up your assertion that names after the main list used Greek names? --Golbez 14:37, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I can - have a look at page 4 of TCnames2004-2009. --rleeden 11:26, July 12, 2005 (BST)

Authentic Matthew
Hi, It is confusing.Ril keeps removing Authentic Matthew even though his VfD failed. --Melissadolbeer 08:41, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Hooray!

Ali Sina
Hey Golbez, You reverted some edits by anon 209.67.*.* back to me, and he and White Knight keep trying to reinstate those edits. I don't care about the textual edits, though on first glance they don't seem at all neutral, but changing all the URLs on the page to redirect through a third-party server that both screws up the destination and prolly does some tracking is simple vandalism, in my opinion. I've said that I'll revert such edits on sight as vandalism (in my edit summaries), but they keep asking me to explain. I don't really think this warrants discussion, but I'd like another opinion. Could you also keep an eye on this page?--MikeJ9919 18:08, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Fine with me. Thanks. --MikeJ9919 18:43, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Help Me
I'm confused. I'm trying to upload a picture and so I get to the upload page, type in the stuff they ask me for (source, destination, and summery of the source). I click Upload File and nothing happens. What's up with that?

Thanks, E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 21:58, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

I'm using Internet Explorer. It acts like I didn't even click anything.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 17:10, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

It works fine on all other instances, so I doubt it's my browser.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 17:32, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

I've never uploaded a picture before. I haven't brought it up on the Village Pump yet. Should I?

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 18:35, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Seasons
Well, that was obviously a typo...oops...

Anyway, yeah, no problem. I can change it. I was actually thinking about that...I just figured I wouldn't bother with it if nobody noticed. But someone did notice, so I guess I'll change it...bob rulz 17:25, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

rollback
Please don't use rollback except when fighting vandalism, since that is it's only intended function. -- Netoholic @ 20:20, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Good job trying to get the NHL Lockout a mention on the headlines. --Madchester 20:28, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

doppleganger
You might jump on IRC and contact David Gerard or a developer (Tim Starling). Obviously you can, and should, block the impersonator indefinitely. Happy hunting. -- Netoholic @ 20:55, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi! My younger brother did this as a stupid prank. My parents have revoked his computer access for the rest of the month. I'm very sorry for the trouble. 4.250.0.180 21:35, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Anacostia Station
Basically, take the top two coffers of the six-coffer arch design, turn them perpendicular to the normal direction, and set them in rows. I should mention the architecture for Anacostia in the article, but I'm trying to figure out a good way to say it. Schuminweb 22:28, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

WMATA arches
As far as sites that list what kinds of arches the various stations use, nycsubway.org uses the term "waffle" for the most familiar style of arch, "Arch I" for the four-coffer arch found in seven stations along the western Red Line (Medical Center to Woodley Park-Zoo), "Arch II" to denote the six-coffer arch found at several more-recent stations (Columbia Heights, Georgia Avenue-Petworth, Mt. Vernon Square, Congress Heights, Glenmont), and "Arch III" to denote the smaller four-coffer arch that is based on the six-coffer arch's design (Forest Glen, Wheaton, Fort Totten Lower Level).

My site also uses the term "waffle", but I stay away from the arch-number term, preferring to say "four-coffer arch" or "six-coffer arch". But my site lists the different styles as well.

Schuminweb 02:34, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

WP project subnational entities
thanks for your last post on my talk page. It's a mess with all this distribute talk, he? Maybe we should better work on a naming conventions page. Some arguments I allready heard hundred times and answered them hundred times. Structured page for the arguments would be fine. I myself am not sure whether uppercase is good in some cases. Especially bracket disambig looks fine if something is not part of the official name. Most talks I had, were like: "My country is different". I think a general rule like "if it is not part of the official name" use lowercase or brackets, would be different. This actually would be a global approach. May other people do this. ... The whole thing is really not easy. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 21:54, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Hurricane Emily
Sorry for the edit conflict. I wasn't expecting the 2300Z position to be published as early as 2248Z!--Keith Edkins 22:52, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

United States
Just a friendly reminder to assume good faith when anonymous users edit articles. In the case of your reversion of United States, it would have been very easy to take a quick look at Google News or another news home page to verify that the edit was, in fact, true. Remember, not all anon users know what that "edit summary" field is for.&mdash;chris.lawson (talk) 15:35, 21 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I was assuming good faith -- too much of it ;) I know I can have a quick trigger finger at times on anonymous editors myself, and I had just seen the story three or four times in my RSS reader, which is why it struck me as a mite odd that it got reverted so quickly. At any rate, it's fixed now. I'll be seeing you around, I'm sure. Happy editing! &mdash;chris.lawson (talk) 23:51, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Blocking messages
Hi, Golbez. With regards to this block and attached comment, please ensure more moderate language in the future. Thanks in advance. El_C 00:19, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Chat

 * thx for liking that I'm focussed.
 * calling something stupid or a person is different, and actually you said I called someone stupid because he simply had another opinion.
 * I called the poll stupid. may this was not political correct. but I felt a lot of work would be done without deeper analysis. what I did on Italy was up for one or two month on the talk page. 3 person discussed it. one neutral, me in favor, the other at first unclear than opposed. And this very third person User:Docu did not respond when I asked him who are the 2 persons oppsoing that he mentioned. And there was none. so it was 1:1:1. And Italy being the only system together with switzerland having "Province of X". So I moved the stuff. Then one person changed one province back and the discussions started. Other people came in, and said, oh but italy is different. Don't care what is done in the rest of WP-subdivisions. ... well one day we could create a poll with users from ALL subdivisions and maybe revert italy again. that's why i called this poll stupid. Polls are not analysing situations.
 * "Well you don't like that, I don't care" - I admit I sometimes have this attitude. Might be good, might be bad. I want quality and facts. Just feeling from the stomach is not all. ... Nevertheless I might take more care in the future here. But I don't promise anything here. Just to avoid to disappoint you.
 * thanks for having come to my user page. best regards Tobias Conradi (Talk) 21:38, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

[[Blackface]
Hey. Long time no talk. Thanks for the kind words. Glad you liked the piece. :) deeceevoice 15:45, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

George Bush vandal blocking
Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I don't think it's right of us to make exceptions to the blocking policy for some special articles. Allthough, if exceptions were to be made, the GBW article is indeed a good candidate. Shanes 20:43, 27 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Yeah, you may have a point. And I'm also a fan of WP:IAR from time to time. The problem, as I see it, is that this could create precedence and encourage people to put in that "one strike rule" in the header of all "their" articles, and then we'd be off to have created a new pollicy with this exception. But, I'm not fanatic about this at all, and I'm not going to go against you and remove your comment or anything. I guess it can be up to each admin to decide. And I definetely agree with you about keeping the article unprotected. Cheers. Shanes 21:01, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

AH
I agree with your rv of user:Deus Ex's edit. I think it doesn't "feel" right because it's a) wordy for a header and b) seems to contain a bit of PoV creep. I'm also uncomfortable with the cult of personality reference. It's non-standard, and used in this sort of context could be applied to most successful politicians. Wyss 00:28, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

"i explained my changes, you would do well to explain yours". I'm not sure what you mean by this-your rationale for revertion originally was the presence of "however", which I removed. Too me, "there's just something that doesn't work about deus ex's changes", is not an explanation, it is an excuse which I cannot decipher into meaning anything specific. Reverting to the original "in the name of "flowery prose"" is not an acceptable reason for revertioin. What specifically is wrong with my changes?

Since I've now noticed Wyss's post above, I'll respond to that and explain the intro changes. I was trying to make the intro less POV, not more. "Under Hitler's leadership, Germany ascended from the depths of post-World War I defeat and economic crisis to become one of the world's most powerful nations" is a vague and POV sentence, so I figured to replace that with summarising (few briefly) Hitler's major accomplishments. Maybe the wording wasn't perfect, but that was not a reason simply to revert back something along the lines of "one of the world's most powerful nations". Deus Ex 00:51, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy respnses. Shall I revert to my version then? If you don't have any major objections of the changes in principle, then I can revert-and subsqeuently the details of the wording of AH's 'accomplishments' can be changed (which I assume is what you and Wyss disagreed over). Deus Ex 01:00, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Well, to be honest I don't see why "Under Hitler's leadership Germany ascended from the depths of post-World War I defeat and economic crisis to rebuild its decimated military" is better than "Under Hitler's leadership, Germany's massive unemployment was vastly reduced, and the country undertook a huge programme of military rearmament." Isn't in better to state that unemployment was reduced (by far the most important economic accomplishment) rather than vaguely say "ascended from the depths of post-World War I defeat and economic crisis". Concerning the military, it was an economic programme (a Four Year Plan) so isn't it better to say "huge programme of military rearmament" instead of "rebuild its decimated military". I also don't see the reason for not using my version of the first paragraph-why isn't it an improvement on the original version. Deus Ex 01:16, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

I've only just noticed this now, but why were the other (not from the lead section) edits reverted? Deus Ex 01:23, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

OK thanks Golbez. I'll let you restore the non-intro changes if you don't mind, its in the small hours of the morning here in England! I still think at least some of the intro edits are an improvement though, but I need some sleep now.Deus Ex 01:42, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Commas... the ones I removed weren't needed. Some see this as esthetics, but in general fewer commas are needed for clarity than we think and it can help the flow. This is not a big deal to me btw ;) Wyss 01:54, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Question
I'm curious to find out what you're implying here. 172 | Talk 00:32, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Page protection request
Please protect Creation science. See here for more details. -- BRIAN 0918  04:00, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for blocking me
Though I'm not sure why you blocked me. I wasn't "vandalizing" as you say. On the contrary, I was attempting to add some neutrality to the Bush page. I guess I'll be more careful next time. And by the way, the supposedly one hour block you handed down turned out to be a lot longer than that, which is unfair. Reynoldsrapture 05:13, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

No problem. And in the future, if I feel it nessecary to edit something, I'll be sure to explain why. I can imagine how many people go after GWB. Maybe the administrators should just put a lock on that page and allow a few select people to edit it in a balanced fashion. Reynoldsrapture 05:50, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

Test3
Header, yea sorry about that, I was trying to figure out why you would post there, then it came to me. I see you removed the header, it's probably for the best. Sorry for the mishap. Thanks. &infin; Who ? &iquest; ? 05:47, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Zap a category for me?
Could you please delete the "Fire alarm stubs" category? I created it for stub articles about fire alarms, but then realized that the "Fire alarms" category that I also recently created would be a better fit for it. So "my bad". Schuminweb 00:35, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

GNAA FAC
I am not here based on the long comments you have made, but I personally wish to ask you if the nominator was different, would people's feelings be different? Zscout370 (Sound Off) 06:16, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Also, I am very sorry if Brian and others are making it a living hell for you and others for trying to tell me suggestions on how to fix the article. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 20:09, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Argentine province naming convention + Tobias
Thanks for the offer. I get pissed off very easily these days. I replied to Tobias in my talk page and then I got a message from him saying I was treating him as if he were stupid. I told Tobias I was tired of pointless debating and "quit". Then he replied to me in a completely different tone. I'm not sure what he read first. In any case, I'm keeping my word. If I can resist it, I won't touch the issue of naming conventions with a stick from two meters away in the foreseeable future.

The thing is, I believe that naming conventions should be decided on a country basis. I don't believe a province is the same thing in any two countries, even though the structure might be similar and the name of the administrative division is the same, or a cognate. And I think the word "province" should be strictly disambiguational in the title (the article of course has to give the official name). This is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:Argentina-related regional notice board. You're welcome to give an opinion.

--Pablo D. Flores 14:50, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Afghanistan
With respect to naming conventions for those articles, I agree that it's currently inconsistent but I'm not sure I'm qualified to define policy. I would suggest that we remove 'Province' from the article names but leave the full names in as redirects. That would seem to be most consistent with the US and Canada naming conventions. The only question is how many conflicts there will be if the top-level administrative districts (states, provinces, etc.) of each country in the world is all in the same namespace without disambiguation (Province, Country), but that's really no different whether or not the "Province" qualifier is in the name.

What I don't know is whether this actually makes sense when you look at the province names in the local languages. Let's pretend for a moment that the US had a state with an ethnic name. Say, Cherokee Territory. Obviously we would reduce that to just "Cherokee" as a name, but that will then be both a name for an ethnic group and for an administrative district. The same thing happens in Canada with Northwest Territories. I don't know whether, in the local Afghan languages, any of the province names cause that same problem. Probably not, but useful to think about before setting a blanket policy. JRP

The Moon
Thanks for adding that information about the moon. I mean seriously - what I added, what you added, or what anyone could add that simply refers to a 'higher being' and 'creation' is so benign - they can't be mad!

It is totally unfair to remove religion from everything. A specific faith doesn't have to be endorsed, but geez, these people flip out if you say 'diety' or anything referencing to a religious belief!

It is disgusting and makes Wikipedia very similar to Communist Russia or China. If you can, please protect that tidbit of info, b/c they will revert it all day long. So many who landed on the moon, including the 2nd person to walk on the moon Buzz Aldrin, believe that the moon was created by a higher being.

So, yeah. I'm done now. Thanks for the help, and if you can use your admin powers, protect it! THANKS!

kmccoy's RFA
Hey, Golbez,

Thanks for your support on my RFA, cabalmate. :) kmccoy (talk) 05:17, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Guatemala
I know Guatemala a bit (more than other CA countries and Mexico, less than Honduras), all in all about 7 months, but I am not sure that helps as I never talked much about departments to people. It is department of Escuintla (departamento de Escuintla), but when one talks about Escuintla one is talking about the city, which is where we have problems. Sacatepéquez is easy because only the department isa called that. I don't have any easy answers, and mostly think it should be department because wikipedia tends to follow this rule, eg Rastafari movement not Rastafari Movement. Spanish does use the non-capitalisation much more extensively than English, so it would be En el departamento de Escuintla. Maybe we should find something that doesn't directly incorporate department such as Escuintla, Guatemala or Escuintla (department), I prefer the latter, SqueakBox 17:18, August 3, 2005 (UTC)


 * on the other hand it is not "new York city" and not black river and not "county of orange" but "County of Orange" (official) and Orange County (more colloquial). Tobias Conradi (Talk) 23:47, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Revert to Air France Flight 358 crash
Thanks, I didn't know if I (non-admin) was allowed to rv this or not. hydnjo talk 18:33, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Schwarzenegger
First, Google is your friend. The governor's nickname is an easily confirmed fact. Second, your stated objection was lack of any boob-grabbing allegation, for which you demanded a cite. That's not particularly relevant since I wasn't saying he was accused, but rather that he had a particular nickname. Nevertheless, I pointed out the name of the boob accuser and the fact that it was stated in the self-same article. That should have given you pause before deleting again. At the least, you could have had the grace to acknowledge your error. Third, I specifically asked you to take it to talk if you still had a problem, and you refused. That's lame.

The article has (mostly uncited, by the way) the nicknames Austrian Oak, The Governator, Conan the Republican, Ahhnold, and Herr Gröpenführer. Der Boobengrabber is factual and of the same relevance. It's used about 73 times a day on talk radio.

The decent thing for you to do would be to restore the deletion and engage in some kind of discussion if you still have a problem. (Squib 20:30, 5 August 2005 (UTC))

1926 hurricane
The damage figure in 1926 was $100 million and was published in the Monthly Weather Review. The inflation figure of $98 billion was reported on a NOAA site. How is that speculative? These figures exist and should be reported. That revert you made bordered on vandalism in my opinion, because you removed valid information. The only reason it wasn't was because there were good intentions behind it.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 20:54, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Telling me to 'read up on it' doesn't tell me crap. I need to know where you got your information and why you arrived at this conclusion. If the figure of $98 billion is 'worthless', why was it published on a site from a no-nonsense organization like NOAA? That new figure you put on the site looks like one you just pulled out of a hat. The wealth normalization figure gives a great idea of what $100 million meant to people in 1926. Your rash, extremely opinionated reasoning makes no sense to me.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 21:07, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Hurricane Cleo
You might want to be aware of this. I put the article Hurricane Cleo (1958) up for deletion because someone just copied and pasted a section of an article I wrote, (Catastrophic Florida Hurricanes: 1961-present), into another article. I've got people blindly just looking at the article's title and saying "Keep!". The section was on the 1964 storm named Cleo and it was put into an article that labeled it the 1958 storm. It was never intended to have its own article. Cyrius might want to get involved too. I need some rational thinkers (like you and Cyrius) in this.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 02:52, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Do you still have the authority to speedy-delete this article now that the voting is over and no one has made a desisive conclusion? I can't believe it's still up. We had like five or six deletes, one merge and one keep. For God's sake this article needs to die a horrible death.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 22:15, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry
Hi Golbez, yes, there's concrete evidence. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 07:56, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Dear Golbez,

Need your help, seen you deleted on Al Gore page reference to SNS short text. I think it should be noted that during the Clinton regime Al and Bill Richardson at the time Secretary of the Department of energy now governor of New Mexico, got SNS started at Oakridge National Lab. I think it should be mentioned.

I just did not know how to word it. What do you think?

Many Thanks User:Scottfisher

Regarding Green Day page
First off, I would like to apologize, for I was unnaware of the three revert rule. I would like to ask if there is another location, besides the Green Day page, where I may post the article. - User_talk:Kerrysfrench

Fair enough, I will not repost the article again on the Green Day page, however I will post it on my own user page. - User_talk:Kerrysfrench

SNS It's entirely possible it needs to be mentioned - integrated into the text. You just tacked the sentence on at the end of the article. If you can find some place in the article where it belongs, and expand it and cite, then there's no problem with it. --Golbez 17:18, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Scottfisher"

Golbez, Thats the problem I don't know where and how to note it, LOL Man this thing is addicting! Thanks. User:Scottfisher

Albania
are you ignorant? Why do you allways revert my corrections and say WP claims Districts are first level? Three WP-pages state otherwise: Your Albania edits are annoying. I told you five times you are wrong. Why not reading more carefully if I point you to this? Esp. if this leads to accordance with CIA and statoids. Maybe I am ignorant. Which page do YOU refer to? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 11:32, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Albania
 * Counties of Albania
 * Districts of Albania

albania
ARROGANT NONSENS POSTER!!! STOP WRITING FALSE STUFF!!! And stop reverting to wrong versions!! WHERE DOES WP say it districts are FIRST LEVEL?????????

For the ignorant reverter:

On the first level Albania is divided into 12 qark (county or prefecture), these are further divided into rrethe (districts) and sum up to 36 of them. The capital city, Tiranë, has a special status.

ok, now but for my point of view we don't need to write about graphics on country-pages on the Naming page. maybe longer run we need other subpages like the "/Naming".

another thing: thx for fixing the break on vfd tango.info, I forgot that it is included in summary page somewhere.

Hi
I reverted Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon to the form that starts with her birthname. It is standard historical naming technique to refer to consorts by pre-marital name. The reasons are complex. Consorts don't have numbers so they cannot be distinguished by their ordinals. In addition it is normal to use pre-marital name to clarify who they were personally rather than refer to them by a title they got later in life. Hence everyone uses Catherine of Aragon, not Queen Catherine, Alexandra of Denmark rather than Queen Alexandra or Queen Alexandra the Queen Mother. In addition monarchs (regnant rather than consort) are referred to by highest title here and elsewhere. Queen Mother is not the highest title Elizabeth held. Queen was, but if we write Queen Elizabeth people will confuse her with her daughter, the queen regnant, Queen Elizabeth II.

Starting the article with her actual name, which was Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, rather than Queen Elizabeth or Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, is also easier, in terms of reading than starting with her last title and working backwards from it.

Look out, BTW for an individual who keeps doing the endless changing formats of consort pages. (He writes comments in capitals.) He has been repeated warned to stop changing consort articles to consort name rather than the standard maiden name, but will not stop. He has been warned numerous times that he faced a block if he kept doing it. I am loathe to block him but all efforts to explain to him the standard format to use have failed. He even spent ages deleting surnames from royal pages, insisting they were wrong even when aides to the Queen confirmed they were correct. He really is an annoying prat and something needs to be done about him. At this stage it is simple vandalism. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 22:40, 8 August 2005 (UTC)


 * No problem mate. The only problem that arises is how soon after the death of a consort should they be in as maiden name/title. Some publications apply a one year 'mourning' period after their death after which they revert to maiden name. Some hardcopy sources apply a two editions rule if the first editions comes out within a short time of her death. Others apply a 3-5 year wait. Usually the latter are hardcopy publications. A small minority apply a when succeeded to the title rule. As Wikipedia is constantly updated, it seems logical to have moved by now. (The BBC last week referred to her as EBL. Broadcasters usually follow two standards. In news coverage they stick for up to a decade (sometimes longer) with last used name, while in biographical programmes, etc they move to personal maiden name pretty much instantly. So on the news you'll hear "Diana, Princess of Wales" or even the non-existent Princess Diana, but on detailed programmes she now is often referred to as Lady Diana Spencer again, especially now that her husband's second wife is legally Princess of Wales even if she doesn't use the title!)


 * Ultimately using maiden name allows the question who was she? to be answered. She was Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon. What she was is different. She was the Queen Mother for 50 years of her life, having been also a queen, a duchess and a lady. Using maiden name/title follows the logical format who, what, where, when which is why in history is generally written that way. Historians, for example, will write of "Henry VIII and his wife, Catherine of Aragon", "George V and his wife Mary of Teck", "George VI and his wife Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon" because it gives information on who there wife was, rather than the less information "Henry VIII and his wife, Queen Catherine", "George V and his wife, Queen Mary" and "George VI and his wife, Queen Elizabeth" Henry VIII and his wife, Catherine of Aragon" tells us not just who he married but where she came from, and that she was a princess. "George VI and his wife Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon" tells us her name, her family and by the form used that she was a commoner. Diana really should be at Diana Spencer by now, but every time I try edit wars erupt. Sometimes the amateurishness on Wikipedia can be frustrating. Oh well! Thanks for the message. FearÉIREANN[[Image:Ireland coa.png|15px]]\(caint)  23:20, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

you are soooooo arrogant Golbez. I am happy that not all people are like you. Did you ever wonder what ATMOSPERE YOU CREATE by reverting and reverting to wrong stuff? And you did not even say sorry!!!! YOU ARE TAKING OTHER PEOPLE TIME ? It may be good faith, but it costed much more than a vandal. because a vandal inserts wrong stuff - but he goes away. I will NOT talk with you anymore until end of august. (this means come to your talk page) HASTA LA VISTA. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 22:59, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Countries
I reverted your changes. Please attempt discussion first (allow me a chance to respond). It has taken me a bit of time to change all those countries, and I would appreciate a dialogue rather than discarding my changes like that. Thanks. El_C 23:16, 8 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I sincerely hope this has nothing to do with my earlier chastisement of your conduct (here). I meant nothing sinister by it. Sigh. El_C 23:27, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

feel free
and joyous and happy and all that other stuff about policing this accounts actions, if you wish to. there wont be qany problems.Gavin the Chosen 13:16, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Hello, Golbez! Thanks for blocking BunkyBoopy for me- I also blocked him, not sure who blocked first... anyways, I thought that giving him a second chance after he seemed to calm down would be good. I sincerly hoped that he had "reformed"... oh well, I guess not. Thanks for being so diligent. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 20:03, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Please correct the portuguese
Hi Golbez, Hello (I love your nickname, played that game endlessly).

Main Page: Thieves steal 150 million reals ($65m) in the Banco Central Fortaleza robbery, Brazil's largest bank robbery and possibly the second largest ever.

The plural of Real is Reais; and it´s the Banco Central robbery at Fortaleza. I´m brazilian ;)  Subramanian talk 21:44, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

It´s a pleasure to help, please count on me as a source for information on Brazil anytime you want.
 * 1) We usually say "Amazonas state" and "Amazonas river" or contextualize it when saying simply "Amazonas". The Amazon forest is Amazônia. So, your solution is fine by our standards. This is not a big deal.
 * 2) São Paulo is both the name of the state and its capital, as you know. We would write "São Paulo, SP" and "São Paulo state". The problem is, we know that the SP means the state and therefore acknowedge "São Paulo, SP" as the city, but would this be fine for the English Wikipedia? As for the Sao Paolo form, I´m sorry, but it is wrong either way. It doesn´t exist in any language. In Italian it is "San Paolo", in English "St. Paul", in Spanish "San Pablo" and in Portuguese São Paulo! Better change it. If you're felling like it, check its official page in awkward English.
 * 3) We would do make it "Rio de Janeiro, RJ" and "Rio de Janeiro state". Again, would this be fine for en.wikipedia?
 * 4) Brasília (mind the accent) is simply Brasília because we don´t have a state as in Washington State / Washington D.C. We have a district for Brasília, D.F., because we decided it shouldn´t be under any gubernatorial rule, but we don´t mention the D.F. unless when posting a letter.

The news is still a little awkward: it should be Banco Central robbery at Fortaleza, there is no Banco Central Fortaleza for a robbery to happen there. This guy here was really powerful, you know.

Best, - Subramanian talk 03:30, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm having all kinds of reminiscences going through the Final Fantasy IV pages... You had written "Sao Paolo" back there at my talk page, and that's what I called "wrong either way". I don´t care about the tricky ã, it´s about the o/u mistake. Glad you liked the icon! -- Subramanian talk 03:49, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Not a problem at all. If you forgive my weird English I'm sure we'll get along fine :) Subramanian talk

Substing
Just a reminder, try to remember to to subst templates, as it reduces load on the server. Keep up the good work fighting off the vandals. -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 23:37, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

styles
Given the endless debate/rows etc over styles I've been thinking as to what is the best way to come up with a consensus solution. Styles have to be in an article, but using them upfront is, I think, a mistake and highly controversial. I've designed a series of templates which I think might solve the problem. There are specific templates for UK monarchs, Austrian monarchs, popes, presidents, Scottish monarchs and HRHs. (I've protected them all, temporarily, because I want people to discuss them in principle rather than battle over content and design right now.) I've used a purple banner because it is a suitable royal colour and is also distinctive. They are eyecatching enough to keep some of the pro-styles people happy; one of their fears seemed to be that styles would be buried. But by not being used they are neutral enough to be factual without appearing to be promotional. I'd very much like your views. I'm going to put them on a couple of user pages and ask for a reaction. There needs to be a calm debate on them this time. Fear</b><b style="color:#FF6600;">ÉIREANN</b>\<sup style="color:blue;">(caint) 02:41, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

American Old West at the US Collaboration
Some time ago, you supported the nomination of American Old West at the COTW. I have now renominated it at the new US Collaboration. If you are still interested, you can support the article with your vote there!--Fenice 08:55, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Func's RfA :)
Golbez, thank you so much for your vote on my RfA! I greatly appreciate it. :)

Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.

Func( t, c, e, ) 18:01, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Arlington Selectmen
How exactly are the Arlington, Mass. Selectment not verifiable? ;-)http://www.town.arlington.ma.us/Public_Documents/ArlingtonMA_Selectmen/index Now whether their names are important to have in the article is another matter entirely. Badagnani 18:59, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Punjab
I thought it would be easier to access Punjab if a comma separates them. Punjab (Indian state) [or Punjab (India)] would be fine, but Punjab (state) would not be, as the Pakistan province is also a state. PS The Pakistan part is often referred to as "The Punjab". =Nichalp  «Talk»=  18:31, August 11, 2005 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I prefer "Punjab, India" and "Punjab, Pakistan". "Indian state" just sounds a bit odd. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 18:55, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Maps
Hello again, I've been trying to improve the rather skimpy Guainas pages lately, and I was wondering if you'd be willing to possibly make some regional maps. Don't do it if your busy with other things of course, but if you ever have some spare time it'd be much appreciated.

= Sdrawkcab 19:46, 11 August 2005 (UTC)sdrawkcab


 * No problem, always like to be appreciated. :) What in particular do you want maps of? --Golbez 19:50, August 11, 2005 (UTC)


 * Regional maps are needed for Suriname and Guyana. French Guiana also needs region maps, though it gets a bit complicated here - it's divided into 2 arrondissements (seen on the CIA map), then 20 communes (I can only find one map of these at http://perso.wanadoo.fr/redris/cartes/commune1.jpg )

But anyway, if you have time then GY and SR need maps. Thnaks for your help Sdrawkcab 14:52, 12 August 2005 (UTC)sdrawkcab


 * thanks for the maps - I'll sort out the articles as I go along. I was wondering if that's all the countries done now, or are there still a few with no maps?

Thanks for your brilliant maps, Sdrawkcab 17:50, 15 August 2005 (UTC)sdrawkcab

Notable Enough
I'm really not sure how the August 9 Shooting Kingston, Tennessee article isn't notable enough to be on the main page. I thought it was extremly notable (see Fox's Site, CNN's Site, and MSNBC's Site. That story has been extremly popular.  Also, entire programs have been devoted to this story.  I know this not might be a story from a world view, but there has been stories that didn't have that much of a world view on the main page.  I don't mean to cause a problem, because I know your edits and decisions are for the greater good, (plus you're an administator, can't argue with that) but I am asking you to rethink your stance on this. :) --Newguineafan 20:24, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for your opinion --Newguineafan 20:44, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

Memory Alpha deletions
Make sure to stop by Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Star Trek to add your opinion (which I think I can guess) with regard to the Memory-Alpha link deletion matter :) -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 22:45, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

I disagree with you. It is not vandalism, they are vandalizing WP by adding the links, when they don't link back to WP. -- Spinboy 22:58, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Golbez -- a virtual pat on the back for reverting the deletions. I certainly hope you had a 'bot helping you! Cheers! 23skidoo 23:17, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

George H. W. Bush
You've twice reverted my statement that Bush is the first Republican president to appoint an African American judge to the SCOTUS. This is an important FACT about Bush that illustrates the success of the civil rights movement throughout all walks of life. You called it inane, and I would like to know your justication for calling this fact inane. You say that the edit is "just to make a point," but it is not. It is merely for balance's sake. George W. Bush's page contains a reference to him being the first Republican president to appoint an openly Gay man to his administration. I fail to see how Bush's appointment of Clarence Thomas is any less significant.

You've obviously letting your personal feelings on this matter influence your judgement on what is and isn't appropriate. It shouldn't matter who or why placed information in an article as long as it's good information. What you need to do is step back, look at the information objectively, and ask yourself simply, "is this appropriate for an encyclopedia article? is this a fact, and is it a significant one?" If you do not believe my edit meets this criteria, please explain why. Sdauson 20:26, 12 August 2005 (UTC)


 * As a sweeping generalization, the African American population seems to take issue with the Republican Party, as black voters usually overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Republicans are currently opposed to things like Affimative Action. Civil rights have been a sore spot for the party, and not just because of the GLBTQ minority. George H.W. Bush got just two opportunities to appoint a SCOTUS justice, and he chose to use one of those nominations to nominate a black man. This is VERY significant, and is at the very least comparable to Bush expending one of his hundreds, even thousands of presidential appointments on a gay man. You say you do not support the sentence in George W. Bush's article, yet you do not vote against it in the survey (which does not conform to Survey Guidelines, btw), and then try to use that poll as an accurate judge of support for one side of a disagreement or another. If your main gripe is then that I've failed to achieve consensus on the inappropriateness of the George W. Bush factoid, you need to consider that there seems to be very little effort to actually gather the genuine opinon required for consensus, or lack thereof.


 * In the end, it's not about who's right and who's wrong, what's appropriate and what's not. It's about seeking out double standards and eliminating them. If the majority of people do believe that a factoid is appropriate on one page, it should be appropriate on all other pages in which similar factoids are relevant. Anything less is a breach of consistancy and encyclopedic integrity. Sdauson 21:12, 12 August 2005 (UTC)


 * You seem to be under the impression that I believe the sentence in the George W. Bush article degrades the article itself. This is not true. I merely believe the sentence to be largely irrelevant to the article itself. Yes, I believe that including irrelevant information lowers the quality of an article, but I also believe that lack of consistancy lowers the quality of an encyclopedia. The difference here is that irrelevance is subjective, while consistancy is not nearly so. I appreciate and respect the fact that my subjective opinon on relevance is currently in the minority, and as such, the quality of the article is not objectively diminished. However, we ALL still have a responsibility to the encyclopedia of maintaining consistancy.


 * Furthermore, I believe that the George H.W. Bush remark I attempted to add to his article IS actually relevant, IS more significant than the George W. Bush remark, and DOES cross the threshold betweenwhat is appropriate for an encylopedia, REGARDLESS of what is in George W. Bush's article. Re-read the talk page on this subject if you need to, but you'll find that my first and primary argument against the statement in the George W. Bush article is that the appointment is utterly insignificant because it represents one choice out of thousands. This certainly doesn't apply to an analysis of George H.W. Bush's SCOTUS appointments, and as such, my claim of irrelevance on the gay appointment bears no weight in matters of SCOTUS appointments. Were Roberts (George W. Bush's supreme court nomination) to be an openly gay man, THAT would definitely be worthy of mention in his article. Sdauson 21:33, 12 August 2005 (UTC)


 * If it's "just your opinion" that Clarence Thomas is "not so much" worth noting, then I suggest you not edit pages based solely on your opinons. If you have your opinon and I have mine, then we need to take this to the next level of dispute resolution. Sdauson 21:42, 12 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Based on our discussion, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you're a straight white male with really no idea of the dynamic involved in being a homosexual man today, or a black man 15 years ago. If you do understand this, please correct me, but otherwise, maybe you should think and hard before editing articles based on how "much it means" (to you) to be black, gay, or female. You've said that you're editing this article based solely on your opinion of how important you think the information is, and I disagree with you. You have yet to provide any indication as to why including this fact lowers the quality of the article-- just saying it doesn't make it so. I think in an encyclopedia you should have a good reason for intentionally omitting information. Sdauson 14:55, 13 August 2005 (UTC)


 * There was obviously a difference in public perceptions of race issues between when Marshall was appointed and when Thomas was appointed. But the point is that when it comes to equality for African Americans, there was still work left to do fifteen years ago. There is still work left to do to this day. I certainly hope you don't disagree and try to say that black and white stand on equal footing in today's America, because that would just be ignorant. Marshall's appointment was certainly the more progressive step, but that doesn't negate the significance of Thomas' appointment, as Thomas' appointment shows a bi-partisan acceptance of black justices on the SCOTUS. George W. Bush's appointment of a gay man to his administration does little more than show bi-partisan acceptance of gay politicians, because like with the Marshall/Thomas comparison, the real progressive step, the real civil rights breakthrough in and of itself occured befoew George W. Bush's presidency. You keep repeating your misguided notion that I'm merely trying to make a point, but listen: I am not. I will argue for the inclusion of the George H. W. Bush inclusion even if the George W. Bush statement is removed. You still have failed to provide a valid reason why this FACTUAL information should not be included in George H. W. Bush's article. Instead of trying to hide behind forcing someone else to take initiative to validate factual information, please take this to the next level of dispute resolution like I asked, and bring it up on the talk page. Sdauson 00:39, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Irene
Hey there.. ok about the pressure bit... i've studied hydroclimatology and weather at uni, so i guess i'm really into it... and for the purposes of coming down to a level most people understand, i do see your point. Also, have been a wiki reader for a while now, and only now have ventured into making many edits... is this the best way to talk to people? anyhow thanks for the heads up.Boort 21:24, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Was also curious as to how you'd think it best to do the updates on the Pacific Hurricanes. As they tend to not be a threat to land, the updates at 5am/pm and 11am/pm (EST) don't give a position relative to land. As such one would have to wait for the tropical weather outlook page for this info which comes out 3 hrs i think, after the advisorys from the NHC. I gather giving the up-to-date longitude/latitude points would be ineffective in giving the reader a point of reference... but is the only means of giving info as it happens.. Boort 21:35, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Hey there... had a question to pose your way. Seeing as how you're well established in this area of study, would like your input if possible. Wondering if putting a section of ENSO-Hurricane interaction in the tropical cyclone page would be worthwhile. I'm sure there's a wealth of research on that topic, but don't want to end up cluttering up the article. Boort 06:49, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Punjab
I moved the article back because I agreed with Nichalp's initial move, nor was there was no reasoning given for your move on the article's talk page, nor a request to discuss the move before it was made. If you have a look at "What links here", Punjab, India is what most of the articles link to. I have worked on a number of India geography articles, and have found that there is a general practice that, if it is necessary to distinguish between places with the same name, that the name of the article include the name of the place and the distinguishing geographic unit (usually, but not always, a state), separated by a comma. This convention is common outside the India-related geography articles as well. I think it is a pretty simple, useful, and elegant convention, and your change didn't fit with it. Tom Radulovich 22:56, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

International Phonetic Alphabet
Quick admin-related question for you. Are you aware of any Wikipolicy that states we must use the International Phonetic Alphabet? I just reverted a change to the article Caroline Dhavernas in which a user -- another admin, as it happened -- stated that we use IPA for denoting pronounciation of names and added a bunch of text that my browser couldn't read, so I reverted. I'm unaware of any such policy. Are you? Cheers! 23skidoo 13:29, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Fair enough but the thing doesn't show up on my browser and all it does is mess up the text formatting. Is this a Netscape vs. Internet Explorer situation? I personally feel phonetic alphabets don't work because it requires you to virtually learn another language to make sense of them. 23skidoo 20:19, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother
The fact that she has died makes no diffeence. She is the mother of the present British Queen and will remain the mother of Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom until doomsday.

As for the title of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth that is correct you do lose Royal rank when you die

Go to http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page863.asp   The is the Memorial Site of the official web site of the British Monarchy, and I will quote this like it or not.User:Silverhorse

King
Some users have been adding in King to articles. They are usually deleted. That one slipped through. It will of course be deleted. <b style="color:#006666;">Fear</b><b style="color:#FF6600;">ÉIREANN</b>\<sup style="color:blue;">(caint) 19:12, 15 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Oops. Probably a revert to a flawed version. <b style="color:#006666;">Fear</b><b style="color:#FF6600;">ÉIREANN</b>[[Image:Ireland coa.png|15px]]\<sup style="color:blue;">(caint) 19:26, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, such mistakes happen to editors who are attestedly prone to revert blindly, without sufficient consideration and thought. 217.140.193.123 19:31, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar


oooo shiny. Redwolf24 22:09, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Naming conventions
Thanks, I had missed the "provinces" page. We also have
 * Naming conventions (city names)
 * Naming conventions (country-specific topics)
 * Naming conventions (places)
 * Naming conventions (subnational entities)
 * Naming conventions (places)
 * Maurreen (talk) 16:55, 16 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Can we please consolidate the discussion about consolidation, at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions? Thanks. Maurreen (talk) 17:26, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject: U. S. Congress
There doesn't seem to be much happening on this project. I found the opening and closing dates for all sessions (through first session, 108th) and, following the format I found for the first (single-digit) congresses, have been going through them in sequence. I figured this was a nice, low-risk way to get started. However, I'm now up to the 34th Congress, and I see the format/template has changed (or hasn't been applied). I'm going to be mildly bold and continue with my small change (adding dates of sessions). since you seem to have worked on this project in the past: Any thoughts, comments? OtherDave 23:06, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

User:Redwolf24/Friends
Go there, remove yourself if you see fit :P Redwolf24 04:49, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Mexico
Yes, spanish is official, not just de facto. -- &lt; drini | &part;drini &gt; 19:32, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Pictures on Main Page
Please protect images before you put them on the Main Page, as they're highly vulnerable to vandalism. If the image is on Commons, upload it locally and put Template:C-uploaded on the image page. Thanks.--Pharos 01:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Protect Ted Kennedy article
Please make sure that the Palm Beach Rape and Waitress Sandwich POV troll sections are removed, then protect the article. Thanks.Voice of All(MTG) 02:05, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

You're fast!
Well done reverting that attack as quickly as you did, much faster than I managed with my Firefox! How do you do it so efficiently? I kept making mistakes while doing the reverts, deleting the correct article instead of the redirect, I kept having to to go back and clean up by undeleting and restoring the content of a few of them. But I shot down the second vandalbot first. :-) Sjakkalle (Check!)  13:42, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Estimates
I'm not trying to start a war here. You guys seem to have the overwhelming majority. I used the standard equation for converting knots to mph. 125 knots x 1.15=143.75 mph, that rounds up to 144 mph. I'm into smaller roundings. I also though that exact information was what Wikipedia was all about. But whatever.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 22:25, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi Golbez, I think I meant consistency with the rest of the article which makes his dictatorial ways quite clear. Coqsportif 23:30, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
for Racialism freedom WAS 4.250 04:44, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks re Pasties
Thanks for picking up my mistake. cheers Gypsum Fantastic 11:54, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Sustainable energy
Thanks for having a go... as you see, it's not that easy. If you'd like to join the discussion at Talk:Sustainable energy or any of the places it links to, that would be appreciated! Andrewa 09:15, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Ah, I see you already have! Thank you. Andrewa 09:19, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

imposters and other indef. blocked nonsense :)
Just wanted to let you know if you didn't already know that you can just use to tag imposter accounts, since using that will bring up a nice blocked user template that says this user is an imposter of (user) and has been indefinately blocked as such. Keep up the good work. Jtkiefer T - 21:56, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

N5R
Thanks for catching that vandal. Someone must really don't want me to become an admin (I an currently a candiate). Keep the vandal fighting. NSR (talk) 22:40, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Bush vandalism
You blocked my account a few minutes ago. My idiotic brother is the one to blame! Adamwankenobi 23:22, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Columbine High School massacre
Hey, I notice you often moderate the Columbine massacre page and wanted to let you know its up for featured article status if you want to vote for it, or help improve it?. - PRueda29

2005 Pacific Hurricane Season
I edited it to a.m. / p.m. merely since some guy who did a copyedit on the 2005 Atlantic Hurricane Season did it that way.. may as well have them the same. Since this is an encyclopaedia, albeit online, may as well go with proper style format as opposed to conventions the NHC simply uses. Boort 01:58, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * thanks for getting back, that is true, i guess since it is merely a timeline, thesis-esque grammar isn't necessarily needed, It's just one of those things that comes up, and one person has one opinion, and another one the opposite clarification is needed. Next thing you know - someone out in the central time zone may object to the bias of the bulk of material being listed as EDT... and we may just end up using UTC time only. Boort 22:31, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Congress of the United States
Hi. I'd appreciate some help over at Congress of the United States, particularly its talk page. Barberio seems to have made the obscure topic of possible cross-house officeholding his personal crusade and has made a series of strange and confusing edits to the article. I'd appreciate the remarks of a third party. Thanks. Mateo SA | talk 13:09, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits over there. Having a third party contribute seems to have calmed the problem. Mateo SA | talk 16:20, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

My Signature
Thanks for the heads up, I hope I got work correctly now. <p style="font-family: Times New Roman, monospace;"> 	 D. J. Bracey  (talk)     17:06, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

How's this: <p style="font-family:Verdana, monospace;"> 	 D. J. Bracey  (talk)   Image:St. Petersburg, Florida seal.png    17:12, 25 August 2005 (UTC) (test)

Test!

what up homey
so universal suffrage is still an apporiate term for voting rights in the US even if some felons are excluded? I'm not trying to defame the US here as much as be honest. what are you trying to do? and did you site the US being listed on another wikipedia article as having "universal suffrage" as evidence that we have it or that's a correct characterization of what we have voting right-wise?? please help me undertand where you are coming from. thankz, Nzzl 03:25, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

yo
golby! what was up with this revert? this person (albeit anonymous) seems to be following the predominant stylistic convention. Crackatzzl 03:55, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I was referring to the convention of linking to the actual article name rather than linking to redirect. THis convention is predominant everywhere, not just with famous people like the Veep. I don't care so much what that particular link is- you just seem extremely protective of u.s., perhaps you'r getting a little carried away. Crackatzzl 04:03, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Are you the Wikipedia Police?
I have not added any bias on the articles I have modified. If anything, I removed the sugar-coated, neutral bias. I'm sorry if the truth offends you. The truth of Islamic fundamentalism being used to justify violence offends me too. Perhaps, instead of completly censoring my additions, you could either stay out of the article completly, or work with the current version to meet whatever standards you think acceptable. If someone disagrees with you, I'm sure you won't mind if they make a change here or there. That is how Wikipedia was created. If that's too much to ask, then remove the edit links, and critically review each and every article before you post it.

Sensored facts
By the way, I probably should have made reference links in the article entitled "Al-Qaeda" when I added the $25 million dollar reward offered for bin Laden. I got that from the FBI's most wanted terrorist list. Even you can't say that a reward is a fact. Where is the bias in adding that a reward exists? It might not belong in a traditional encyclopedia, but then again, neither does a current event.

American Idol
Hi Andrew, I wondered if it was something like that. I only reverted your removal of the correct formatting, not the link itself. I agree the link should be removed. Angela. 07:29, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

I have read it
Why is the word 'terrorist' biased? A person who kills people at random is attempting to instill terror in a population. Therefore, that person is a terrorist. Can you honestly say that isn't what's happening? I'm not even stating my opinion, only calling the 'insurgents' for what they truly are. Even the original article states this at least a couple times, just using a few more words.

What kind of 'positive and sympathetic tone' can someone use for both sides of an insurgency?

Lack of neutrality as an excuse to delete
From your NPOV:

The neutrality policy is used sometimes as an excuse to delete texts that are perceived as biased. Isn't this a problem?

In many cases, yes. Many of us believe that the fact that some text is biased is not enough, in itself, to delete it outright. If it contains valid information, the text should simply be edited accordingly.

There's sometimes trouble determining whether some claim is true or useful, particularly when there are few people on board who know about the topic. In such a case, it's a good idea to raise objections on a talk page; if one has some reason to believe that the author of the biased material will not be induced to change it, we have sometimes taken to removing the text to the talk page itself (but not deleting it entirely). But the latter should be done more or less as a last resort, never as a way of punishing people who have written something biased.

If you want to see a page that reeks of bias, check out Cindy Sheehan.

Where's the POV, and who the hell are you?
Frankly, you STILL haven't said how the word 'terrorist' conveys my point of view, which is something you don't know. You can also stop playing Wikipedia God and quit removing anything I post. As far as arguing on your talk page, it's the only place I can contact you. If there's another place or another person you'd rather I complain to, feel free to let me know.

Good point
OK, maybe I forgot those things. But even you can't say that they are killing in the name of their religion. You still haven't said what the difference is between an insurgent and a terrorist.

OK
128.194.54.244 08:08, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Congress of the United States 2
Hi. Sorry it took me so long to reply to you. Also, this is probably a lot longer than you wanted, but the whole issue got very complicated. Anyway, here's the steps in the dual officeholding debacle from the beginning:
 * 1) Barberio posted his question about holding offices in both the Senate and House on the Congress of the United States talk page.
 * 2) Someone replied to his question, saying they couldn't find any restrictions listed in the Constitution or House and Senate Rules, either.
 * 3) Barberio made his first edit about, inserting a paragraph claiming that "their is no legal restriction" preventing someone from serving in the House and Senate simultaneously, and that "circumstance and tradition" is the reason that a member always resigns one seat.
 * 4) Another user commented out his edits as original research.
 * 5) Barberio posted a note on the talk page, saying it was "silly" to remove his edit for lack of citations. He said that the lack of explicit rules was a source in itself.
 * 6) I explained that it was his conclusions that were the problem: Just because there isn't an explicit restriction against that type of dual officeholding that doesn't mean the courts would find some implicit or inherent restriction (and it follows that the lack of House-Senate dual isn't necessarily because of tradition). I explained that his conclusions were  OR that needed supporting cites; and argued that without those conclusions, his observation was only trivia.
 * 7) Barberio replied that he was in a "quandary" because he doesn’t have the cites, but he thought it was necessary to include the info in the article, because  important because "most other bicameral institutions do have an explicit bar".
 * 8) I replied "Here's a suggestion: research the topic".
 * 9) He apparently e-mailed the Senate Historical Office, then posted the SHO's reply on the talk page. Strangely, that reply is not about holding offices in both the House and Senate, but about holding both federal and state offices. Maybe his e-mail to the SHO was confusing.
 * 10) He then put his new version into the article. That paragraph was rather confused (a large part of it was taken almost verbatim from the SHO's e-mail). Barberio mixed his original point about Senate-House dual holding with comments about federal-state legislative dual holding. He also said that "most other bicameral institutions" had explicit bans on such practices.
 * 11) That's when you did some revisions to his work. I made some further edits. I separated the statements about federal-state and House-Senate dual holding and reorganized the paragraph. I removed his unsourced claim that most other bicameral institutions had explicit bans.
 * 12) He reverted the edits back to your revision, saying that I had removed "information provided by the the Senate History Office" [his emphasis], and that I needed to add cites to support my deletions. He didn't specify which points he was talking those were. I thought, since I mentioned those points in my edit summary, that he was talking removing his claims about "most other bicameral institutions" and toned down his claims about dual House-Senate holding.
 * 13) Ddye then made some edits that restored a lot of my edits.
 * 14) I posted a response to Barberio on the talk page. I explained why I deleted the other bicameral institutions claim. I explained the distinction between House-Senate and federal-state dual officeholding. I then deleted a claim Ddye had added about tradition, and Ddye reworded his claim to mention that dual House-Senate holding has never happened.
 * 15) Barberio replied to my reply. It turns out he was upset that I had removed a passage he had included about some occurrences of federal-state dual officeholding happening in the 18th Century. His sentence was taken nearly verbatim from the SHO's e-mail. He then put the sentence back in.
 * 16) I made some revisions to his paragraph. I rewrote and shortened his sentence about the 18th century instances and moved it farther up in the paragraph. I also made some other grammar and clarity fixes. In my edit summary, I said "copyedited for length and clarity".
 * 17) He changed my edits, reinserting his original sentence in its original position (which made the sentence redundant) and putting in a paragraph break. In his e.s., he said "Please do not make content edits and claim they are clarity edits."
 * 18) I deleted his re-added sentence, pointing out in my edit summary that I had simply rewritten his sentence and moved it to a new location. I also put a note on the talk page explaining this.
 * 19) He then posted a snide reply on the talk page, saying "That it came out as redundancy is my fault after trying to tidy up the 'clarity edit'.". He said that the point about the 18th-cent. occurrences was important because it showed "that what is now commonly accepted practice was not always so". He said that his sentence was almost a direct quote from the SHO e-mail, and for that reason, it was the better wording. He argued that the sentence clarified that the occurrences of dual holding "applied to State legislatures, not State Offices" (actually, the SHO email is quite confusing on that point).
 * 20) I got very annoyed that he continued to put "clarity edit" in quotes. I replied to his post, complaining about that point. I also pointed out that the SHO's e-mail was ambiguous. I then pointed out that including the exact words of the SHO e-mail w/o explaining where they came from was "arguably plagiarism". I said out that there was nothing magical about the SHO's words that required that they be used verbatim.
 * 21) He then posted another reply, saying that I had made the discussion uncivil by accusing him of plagiarism.
 * 22) I responded by apologizing for my plagiarism remark. I pointed out that he continued to insinuate that I had concealed the nature of my clarity edits and asked him for an apology on that. That's when I asked you for some help. Barberio never did reply to this last post.

Ultimately, I think Barberio thought that he had made a great new discovery and he wanted to put it on Wikipedia, no matter what. I think he has difficulty understanding the nature of the federal system (see his edit and the responses on Liste of U.S. Supreme Court cases), and that made his edits even more confused. Anyway, thanks again.
 * Mateo SA | talk 16:29, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

Bill2000
I know you were watching this Bill2000 guy, and reverted some of his apparent-vandalism. I just thought I should mention that he's reverted your reverts several times in the past hour or so. There's no doubt about it, now, he's a straight-up vandal. 4.248.249.177 18:21, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Images on the Main Page
Please don't put unprotected images on the Main Page; I've reverted the image until I can upload the Katrina image locally and put Template:C-uploaded on it. Thanks.--Pharos 19:25, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Whats the image? i'm an admin on commons and i can protect it for you. Plugwash 19:31, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Good, so am I. ;) We resolved this. Thanks though :) --Golbez 19:55, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Hurricane Katrina
Sorry. Apparently I am incompetent with image work right now... :)  I reverted it back to your version. Chris 21:16, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Human Rights Servey on Wikipedia (The final post of I_sterbinski)

 * Dear all,


 * Wikipedia was recently a subject of intensive research of an huge international human right organization. A team of people from different nationalities and ages were acting on Wikipedia for 20 days, investigating previously noted anomalities of Wikipedia free editing and forming a final report, which (between the others similar reports) will later be a guide to all future moves of the organization concerning Wikipedia. Acting under an account of a real person, their privacy is to be held private. Therefore, very few private information will be revealed.
 * Also, this is a result of the lack of final possition of the organization concerning Wikipedia and human rights, which was still not formed.


 * The team's final post on Wikipedia, where they explain their actions can be found on the following addresses:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_sterbinski
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macedonia#Human_Rights_Servey_on_Wikipedia_.28The_final_post_of_I_sterbinski.29


 * The team would like to thank to all the persons who took part in the correspondence with us.
 * We also want to appologise for keeping our identity secret for a longer period.


 * Best regards,
 * Aleksandar, Biljana, Asparuh, Christos, Valjon, Michael and Ana Luiza
 * I sterbinski 00:37, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

okay then
I didn't realize VP had article under his "everyday" name. that's cool. my bad on that one.

I think you may have addressed this somewhere, but- about the felons- why should they not be mentioned where I put it in?

By the by I'v now overtly categorized my three user names to indicate I'm the only user. that reminds me- I'v never denied having multiple user names or voted for anything posing as multiple users. Perhaps more transparency is needed. I'm usually not compelled to use more than one user per article, but when other people get picky and pushy it brings out different sides of me.

What POV do you think I'm pushing? Surely your POV/area of concern could be discerned by looking at your contribs. let's work something out. Crackatzzl 04:47, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Esperanza
Hello, I'm trying to show some people off my friends list a new society, somewhat similar to WP:KC, Esperanza. Its still in its early stages but nonetheless I'd appreciate it were you to join. R e  dwolf24  (talk) 06:26, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Monasticism
Good evening, Andrew! Currently, you are a member of the laity of the Catholic Church of Wikipedia. I, Cardinal Ryan the Reformed, ask if you would like to become a monk. You may respond at my talk page. God Bless! Cardinal Ryan 09:01, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

on felons
I'd like to hear back from you about some things I mentioned in my last message to you. I highlighted them above. since I'v done it twice and you reverted both times and I'm still not sure why, I think we gott work it out or we'll be in 3revert territory, Yameen? Schzz-niddl-bam snip snap sack 03:35, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't think so
you'r the only one who'd reverted me so you'r the only one I need to work it out with so far. after I thought about it, dough, I should also put it on the talk:u.s.. I'm pretty sure you havn't fully explained anywhere why you reverted here.

I think

"Americans (except some convicted felons) enjoy universal suffrage upon reaching the age of 18,"

is more truthful and more importantly more honest than

"Americans enjoy universal suffrage upon reaching the age of 18,"

perhaps we could take out "convicted". I'm not married to it.

I think it's worth including.

that's all for now. thankz, Schzz-niddl-bam snip snap sack 06:19, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

fag links
why did you revert and put back that link some fag put in to advertise his site? wikipedia is not for self-promotion

Vandalism
Thanks... the vandalism at Hurricane Katrina is getting out of hand. I reverted a vandal edit just to realize that I had left another one on the article's lead section! Thanks for covering this up. --Tito xd 00:03, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Long Discussions
The talk pages for the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season and Hurricane Katrina are getting about as big as the hurricanes they discribe. I've been trying to stem the tide, but you can only archive so much, I've even been severely chastised by one user (coughBoortcough) for doing it. Both the 2005 and Katrina talk pages are over 100 kilobytes long and I don't think there's much more I can do.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 02:28, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

I gave an edit summary many times, but not all of the time.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 21:52, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Pakistan Socialist Democratic Party (Online)
05:11, 30 August 2005 (UTC) Pakistan Socialist Democratic Party (Online) is formed in June 11, 2003. This Party did not participate into 2002 Election in Pakistan. Pakistan Social Democratic Platform is a part of this Party, not a part of Pakistan Social Democratic Party (already exist). Name has been carefully figured out. Its named as Pakistan Socialist Democratic Party not a Pakistan Social Democratic Party.

Thanking you.

Crossmaglen
Re: "rv, and this is the final word on the subject - no one gives a flying goat what the people in crossmaglen call it. it's northern ireland. PERIOD."

I don't agree. If the majority of people in New York did'nt, for whatever reason, call the United States by its official title, I think that would be noteworthy enough for inclusion in an article on the city.

Lapsed Pacifist 17:23, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

number of edits
I know this is a silly question, but I am wondering, is there an easy way to find out how many edits i have done without actually counting (500 plus 500 plus 500 etc.)? Is there a counter somewhere that keeps track? Masterhatch 31 August 2005


 * It's because you are on my watchlist, and I was bored. :) By the way, you never replied to my comment. Acetic  ' <sup style="color:#FF8247;">Acid  12:57, August 31, 2005 (UTC)


 * I'll respond here then! ;) And because, since I'm one of the main people working on the hurricane articles, I ended up with something else taking up my wikitime for the last few days :-/ But I will! All praise to the J. --Golbez 13:04, August 31, 2005 (UTC)


 * That's okay. :) Congratulations, your new title is Brother Andrew the Meteorologist. Acetic  ' <sup style="color:#FF8247;">Acid  13:36, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Get my comp
Its 0waldo with a zero not Owaldo. My understasnding is Jesse partly removed his link because he stuck it at the top of the list (see the edit summary), and when he revert stuck it at the top again I also removed it, then all the stuff about being a major donor, and him putting his user name into the article, happened. I early on tried the link and found it useless. It identified my IP and that was it, though it also thought I was in the US (about 1,000 miles to the north), which a Brazilian user also reported. If he had stuck his link at the bottom it may have stayed, but he did put it into 3 or 4 other sites as 24.214.30.98, and they were all quickly removed by difeerent editors, so maybe it wouldn't have, SqueakBox 18:04, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Yeah I got a similar letter. Good to know. I told him to write to you, or just let things be and hopefully they will calm down in 48 hours, which I think would be the best option, SqueakBox 18:10, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

As long as our names are removed from the site I won't revert it if you put it back, SqueakBox 18:13, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Is there some other part of this discussion other than on Talk:IP address that I've missed. AFAI have seen, 0waldo has failed to provide a justification convicing to any editor other than himself that the site he wants to add is worth adding. Why is adding his link a "compromise"? What did I miss? :-) JesseW 23:57, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi Golbez - could you have the guy quit deleting the link to getmypc.info ? It's a raw IP address: 84.9.203.30. I put it back once and he immediately erased it. Thanks 0waldo 12:37, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

u.s.
is that all it takes to get what I want on US? just mention it on the talk? u feeling alright?

Article/Vandalism
Could you speedy delete this please: New York Hurricane of 1893. This is nothing but vandalism, some anon being utterly foolish.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 22:37, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

More problems
I just noticed that 1928 Okeechobee Hurricane and Great Lake Okeechobee Hurricane are on the same storm. Both have good info, but we stand where we stand. What do you suggest we do about this? A merger seems like the best option to me.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 23:53, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Toby
I appreciate your borrowing Toby for your user page; I hope you won't think I'm ungrateful if I ask you to show your support a bit more directly, on the relevant Talk.

Toby is hardly the perfect solution, but after years of wrangling, we've not come up with anything better. I still think Toby is pretty good, and I'd like some balanced voices in the mix. &mdash; Xiong &#29066; talk * 05:19, 2005 September 3 (UTC)

Hyderabad
Remember that Punjab incident (#52 up above) You'd posted an RFC on my talk. Ok, I stumbled on upon Hyderabad. The city is a place in India as well as Pakistan. Currently the links are Hyderabad, India and Hyderabad, Pakistan. Is this correct or should it be CITY, STATE; which in that case would be Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh for Ind. and Hyderabad, Sindh for Pak. Thanks =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:37, September 3, 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the inputs. Just wanted to know what was the status for disambiguating cities with common names in different countries. Wasn't sure if brackets be added, or separate by commas and so on. But if there's no probs with Hyderabad as it currently stands, then I won't stir up a hornet's nest. :)  =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:50, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

Government & Law in New Orleans
Yes, I was just moving it to the Infrastructure category. A little accidental humor in the process,... ;-) Dr. Cash 18:54, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Do you really think that is funny?--I-2-d2 21:33, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Jim Ross
Right before you protected the page it was vandalized again. Please revert to the last version by Doc glasgow. Thanks! Soltak | Talk 21:54, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Barneybumble
Barneybumble is almost certainly a bot (see timeline at Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents). I think we'll have to leave that account blocked permanently despite any AOL collateral damage. -- Curps 23:52, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

George W. Bush
It looks like a couple of us were overlaying each other during vandal reversion. I reverted to the last edit in the history which said it was a vandal reversion, but didn't catch the other vandalisms. Hopefully you've got it fixed now. Zoe 05:55, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Adminship
I would eventually like to become an admin. How do I know when I have a chance at becoming one? Who actually decides whether I can become one or not? Thanks.Voice of All(MTG) 07:45, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Please Fix Korea from the evil Revisonist history anti-japan views Thank you

Korea
Can you do something to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Korea_%281900%E2%80%931950%29#Koreans_and_the_Japanese_Imperial_Army the article is absoulty horrid, it seems as if it was written by some that decied it would be a good time to go write a wikipedia article after graduating from a North Korean sponsered school. It's ridiclous for wikipedia to have an article that wrong and so obviously pov for so long


 * I don't see too much wrong with it, but as you can see on my user page, I've mostly given up trying to combat anti-Japanese Korean propaganda here. --Golbez 17:14, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

Boort
I am not sure what his problem is, but he takes offense whenever you revert his edits. He calls me out claiming I am being overly technical by reverting his am/pm -> a.m./p.m. edits when that is exactly what he did to your edits. Seems a bit hypocritical to me. He puts a message on my talk page, and I will quote a portion of it, "Quite honestly, get a life, if all you want to do is revert my edits, and barrage me with technicalities, i truly pity you." I post a reply to him and he just simply deletes. I am a bit tired of his childish behavior, and he needs to stop being so confrontational whenever someone reverts and edit. --Holderca1 20:53, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Global Warming
Wow. Just as I finish my diatribe on the talk page I return to see that you're already working on fixing it. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I was really disappointed when I checked that section today, it had seemed like it was moving in such a good direction, oh well... It's interesting to see how Kerry's position seems to differ on his webpage and FAQ from the soundbites the media was pushing right after the storm hit. I'm wondering if he was being misquoted to create more interest in the story, or if perhaps he's reconsidered his stronger conclusions that weren't the subject of peer review now that the worlds spotlight is on him? In any case.. it's always interesting. Thanks for your hard work. --Gmaxwell 22:16, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Why did you remove my edit of Zell Miller? 61.192.118.74 01:06, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

IP address
Greets Golbez! Wow - such a melt down over at IP address on external links yes? Have a nice weekend!! 0waldo 22:42, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Ouch! If I caused that I would like to honestly offer my sincere apology 2U sir ;) 0waldo 23:02, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, it's like this: "yer still me super-hero" ;) Have a peaceful weekend :)

Such a petty thing...
But thanks for tossing one of your reverts into the ring anyway. –Hajor 01:27, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
 * And, seeing as how you did so, I take the liberty of drawing your attention to the most recent thread on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Days of the year. Regards, –Hajor 02:59, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

New Orleans
You reverted Ashley Y and then reverted yourself. Any reason why? I'm about to run out of reverts myself. A little thing yes, but I'm finding it more and more difficult to assume good faith with her. I state "we have a caveat" and she replies "irrelevant" despite insisting in every comment that the need for a caveat is why she keeps making the change despite being a minority of one. Anyhow, sorry to bother. Marskell 09:55, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Talk page outburst
What in God's name was that all about? All I said was that I removed the link you put into the article and I gave the reasons why, politly by the way. And then I get my head chewed off. "I can link to whatever the hell I want to." I know that in some places, if you said something like that, you'd be in a near coma from blood loss. If you were thinking that I removed the link from the discussion page (which I found hard to believe, seeing as the link is still there), think again. I did no such thing. AySz88 had this to say:

Sounds to me like there's been a miscommunication; I think Golbez thought you edited the link out of his comment (or removed the brackets, or something; the URL still isn't hyperlinked, anyway, probably because it's missing the http:// ). AySz88^-^ 05:12, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

If that is true, than I feel I deserve an apology for that outburst. I did nothing to deserve it. Apparently you are under a lot of stress (yes, I read the User page), but, please, don't take it out on me.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 21:55, 12 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Don't worry about it. Deal with those vandals and get some sleep. ;)


 * E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 22:37, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Maria
These are some nice sat photos of extratropical Maria headed for Iceland. Maria's giving them a beating right now. I posted them on the 2005 At hur season talk page but I since you seem especially interested in this, I thought I'd post them here too.,

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 03:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

break
Have a nice break :). Your vandalism fighting is always welcome :). Ryan Norton T 05:39, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

More Boort
Holderca and I agree that we've had enough of this guy. Here's an ongoing discussion that's been going on on Holderca's talk page:

''Sorry if I'm intruding on a private discussion, but I was posting a message for Golbez, and noticed you had posted a complaint about this user. This prick jerk has attacked me too. Look at the random insult he left me on my talk page:''

*"Seeing how you're 15, and are obviously picking fights with whomever you choose, as can be shown by your deletion of entire sections of dicussions on pages, i'm not going to waste my time with you. I'm actually trying to promote the eduactional value of these articles with my contributions.  It's unfortunate that you take offense to suggestions on this site and reply with vindictive remarks. Boort 06:06, 14 August 2005 (UTC)"

''First of all, I was 16 at the time of his post (learn how to add, moron). All I did was archive some older sections of the Talk page on 2005 Atlantic hurricane season. The "picking fights" were probably petty arguments with Golbez that he had no right to spy on. Those "vindicative remarks" were me trying to tell him that all I was doing was archiving. I posted two messages on his talk page and he removed them without a word. At that point I was so infuriated that if he had been in my presence, I could have beat him to death with a lead pipe and not cared. I've cooled off a bit now, but the jerk still makes me fume. I'm thinking about posting a personal attacks warning on his talk page (which he will probably delete) and if he reacts violently and unreasonably after that, then we will block him. He's pissed enough people off.''

''PS: I removed what I view as a personal attack by him from your talk page. Revert it if you want.''

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 23:40, 12 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Finally, someone I can relate to about this idiot. He is about as hypocritical as they come.  My favorite being how he keeps accusing me of insulting him (which he never gives me an answer when I ask him about it) and then later in the same post he tells me that I need to "get a life."  That sounds like an insult to me.  Funny thing is, I think you are much more mature than him and you are seven years younger.  --Holderca1 12:50, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * "I'm thinking about posting a personal attacks warning on his talk page (which he will probably delete) and if he reacts violently and unreasonably after that, then we will block him. He's pissed enough people off." What do you say?


 * E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 13:53, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I am all for it. Telling someone to "get a life" is definitely a personal attack.  --Holderca1 14:14, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I left this message on Boort's talk page. It would be a nice touch if you signed it:


 * *Please refrain from making personal attacks. Your frequent insults to myself and other users and removal of questions and requests from your talk page are extremely rude and irritating. I count this as your second warning, seeing as you have been asked to stop several times and have not complied. Quite frankly, many of us have gotten sick and tired of your "I'm better than everybody else" attitude, boorish insults, and ignorance of questions and requests. Should you continue this inappropriate and childish behavior, I will propose a block. I WILL count removal of this message as a personal attack against me. --E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 21:42, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * *Retrieved from ""


 * E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 21:47, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Here are some of his posts on Holderca's talk page:


 * is the NHC the bible on everything that gets written in these articles.. i'm really curious... 10mph is 16.09 km/h... hence 16... Not to take a jab at you.. it just gets really annoying how everything in every single hurricane article is done so because the NHC says so. Boort 03:17, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


 * thank you for the smug responses. I have no idea how the NHC works or what they do, or who uses their info (that's sarcasm by the way).  I was merely trying to state a simple point as to how everything on these pages is a simple regurgitation of what the NHC dishes out, and is not the intent of the encyclopaedic nature of wiki.  Here, you engaged in getting into symantics over the pupose of the NHC and what have you. Boort 03:56, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


 * and here come the insults, how mature. I really hope that satisfies you.  Not going to waste my time on someone such as yourself, i'll spare you an adjective.  How truly sad. Boort 04:20, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


 * wow - first you insult me a couple of days ago, accuse me of being hasty, and now this. Quite honestly, get a life, if all you want to do is revert my edits, and barrage me with technicalities, i truly pity you. Boort 02:25, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

I have now taken the only stand against this that has been done so far (other than asking him to stop): I have posted a personal attacks warning on his talk page. If he so much as deletes the message from his talk page like he has other simple questions and requests, and especially if he makes more attacks, I will request a block. I hope you agree with what I've said.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 23:15, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Just a minor point, we did nothing to deserve his comments. He richly deserves our much more minor comments. I'll try and cool off, but it's hard with this guy.


 * E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 23:42, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm not one to get into arguements, but he's deleted Golbez' comment from his talk page like the many others that's made him look bad. One of these includes a post I made regarding a comment he left on the edits comment (see 2005 Altantic hurricane season comparison and subsequent response here). I don't know why he's being like this...=\ -- RattleMan 00:35, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

miscellaneous
i removed the comment, because i read it and have moved on. It is to my preference to keep my talk page clear of clutter and non-article related debates. Boort 00:53, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

U.S. House members
Categories for deletion currently has an unresolved (tied?) question about Category names for U.S. Congress members. I'd welcome your thoughts or input, Thanks Lou I 20:16, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

George H. W. Bush
Hi, you ignored my last message on this subject, so I'll repeat it for you below:

There was obviously a difference in public perceptions of race issues between when Marshall was appointed and when Thomas was appointed. But the point is that when it comes to equality for African Americans, there was still work left to do fifteen years ago. There is still work left to do to this day. I certainly hope you don't disagree and try to say that black and white stand on equal footing in today's America, because that would just be ignorant. Marshall's appointment was certainly the more progressive step, but that doesn't negate the significance of Thomas' appointment, as Thomas' appointment shows a bi-partisan acceptance of black justices on the SCOTUS. George W. Bush's appointment of a gay man to his administration does little more than show bi-partisan acceptance of gay politicians, because like with the Marshall/Thomas comparison, the real progressive step, the real civil rights breakthrough in and of itself occured befoew George W. Bush's presidency. You keep repeating your misguided notion that I'm merely trying to make a point, but listen: I am not. I will argue for the inclusion of the George H. W. Bush inclusion even if the George W. Bush statement is removed. You still have failed to provide a valid reason why this FACTUAL information should not be included in George H. W. Bush's article. Instead of trying to hide behind forcing someone else to take initiative to validate factual information, please take this to the next level of dispute resolution like I asked, and bring it up on the talk page. Sdauson 02:45, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Fortunately, I don't care anymore. --Golbez 03:21, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your cooperation. Sdauson 05:39, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Rita updates
Good job catching the 1:15 pm update - you caught it at the same time I did! (I noticed you had done some updates when I was writing in the new information) CrazyC83 17:43, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Porn models' privacy
Thanks for your backing up of the edits that I did on the Jordan Capri article. While I never thought this would be an issue I'd even be aware of, it strikes me that there is a serious risk to some of these young women. Is there any way that an absolute rule can be established that irrelevant personal information (real name, schooling, etc) must be permanently deleted from all such people's entries? I don't think anyone wants to be even vaguely responsible for the first Wikirape. As I'm new here, would you be willing to advise me how I could put forward such a rule? Thanks Vizjim 21:56, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Ruairidi
Thanks for catching the move vandalism. I was rather perplexed and trying to figure out what was going on. Seems I just needed to wait a couple of minutes. Cheers~ -- Dave C.talk 15:47, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Lists of Congressional Delagations
Golbez- I'm not sure whether to put this on my discussion or yours- but here it is.

A little investigation on my part has revealed to me that you have much invested in these Congressional Delegation pages. I want you to know I respect that and want to work cooperatively with you on enhancing them. I am writing a bunch of bio articles about Delaware politicians, and enjoy it so much I may never stop. As I said in my pervious note I am very concerned about helping readers easily locate obsure historical figures in recognizable time frames. They can't possibly understand the context of a bio without understanding the context of the times. So I am thinking about putting Presidents on US polititians articles as well as other information. See the bottom of Cornelius P. Comegys for an example of another approach. I just haven't figured out a way I like.

My grand plan (I think) is to have "see also" links from articles to four lists, 1) A chronological list of the relevant Senators, Reps, etc, 2) an alphabetical list, 3) a timeline, 4) and an election results compilation for the office. The chronological list (see Governors of Delaware is pretty close to what has been out there already; I'm hoping the relevant category can suffice for the alpha list; I'll have to build the election result list as a combination what's now on individual articles. As for the time line, your Congressional Delegation format works real well, especially if I can solve the "lost in time" problem with it.  If it seems to me like the best solution, but you just can't stand it that way, I will happily take the stuff you don't like off and build my own table, and call it a timeline.

A couple of other things. I'm following the color scheme for parties that seems to have been established, but am brightening them up a bit. Is that OK with you? I'm also wondering if the Senators and Reps shouldn't be on two separate articles? Even little Delaware is getting too big. And I haven't even dealt with House of Repr issues in a big state.

I look forward to working cooperatively with you on all this. Please help me understand your objectives and priorities and I will be flexible and work my efforts around them.

stilltim 19:06, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't much like the Comegys approach either for that very reason. I'll try "world leaders of the year," didn't know about it. I'm not sure the years themselves on the Senate terms are critcal, they could be dropped and just a blank box left, and nothing lost. I've thought about color in there, but didn't know what color would be right.

I absolutely agree that this page should not be a general timeline of Delaware federal political history, but it is in fact a timeline of the congressional delegation. So, my logic goes, since its already a timeline why not solve the whole timeline problem for the congressional delegation with it. It has been my thought to create a similar article (timeline) for Governors, perhaps including other important state wide offices. I'm sure our goals are basically consistent, I just don't want to step all over your work.

It is a very new and fascinating experience working in this environment where no one is in charge and all reasonable people have to find a way to agree. Its kind of like a multi dimensional marriage.

stilltim 19:44, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Why
Why did you do that? --Irishpunktom\talk 18:29, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
 * A united nations report into an critical aspect of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is of course important. How can you say it's not, I really do no understand. --Irishpunktom\talk 18:36, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Abuse of power
Complaint filled for: Regards, Truth in our time 09:07, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
 * abusive "3RR blocking" (I read the rules, and you were not supposed to block before 4 reverts, and I did only 3)
 * using specific administrative powers for articles to which you regularly contribute (you are a regular reverter).

Golbez, the "Rfc" is here--MONGO 09:28, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

---What are you, Kiand's little do boy? He points and you obey? Or is it like a child/adult reltionship? He cries and you rush to his aid? Abuse of power? I'd say-- User:Zizban
 * I have reported you for abuse of power. Things were just fine between User:Kiand and I until you decided to mettle. I'm sick of your threats.

Zizban
Do you really see any evidence whatsoever that Zizban is going to stop harassing Kiand? Just look at Kiand's talk page! --Golbez 00:31, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Nope, not really. He seemed to go along with it, at first.  I tried one last thing in hopes of stopping it, but I'm at a loss other than that. Friday (talk) 02:04, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I am still willing to work with you, User:Friday and I will respect your wishes.

Azerbaijan page moves
These are leaving a lot of double redirects. I'm fixing some of these, but it's taking a while. -- Curps 06:19, 1 October 2005 (UTC)


 * OK, I'll let you do them then. -- Curps 06:24, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Technical difficulties
Who do I flag down for a technical fluke in Wikipedia? Reason I'm asking is because 2005 Pacific hurricane season is having a major one. Try and edit the page and you'll see what I mean.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 19:41, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * E., have a look at Village pump (technical). -- Dave C.talk 19:59, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Provinces of Argentina
I saw you moved the names of many Argentine provinces to a certain standard. Its a pity you didn't take a look at the Argentine notice board, were we had a long discussion about the subject, nor placed a comment at Provinces of Argentina stating your intentions. Please, remember to consult or check for previous decisions before taking such big changes. Thanks, Mariano (t/c) 08:28, 3 October 2005 (UTC)


 * If you look a little further in the voting you reference to, you will find that no consent was found. I'm not against the renaming, I'm just saying that you should have placed a message at talk:Provinces of Argentina stating your intentions to rename those articles. Good wiking, Mariano (t/c) 08:38, 3 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Let's forget it altogether. It might be late at night for you, but it's still too early morning for me. Take care, Mariano (t/c) 09:05, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Hierarchical organization, Help:Editing
Oct. 3 - Three kiddy/stupid vandalisms in three minutes by 212.219.0.9 Milo 19:36, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

civil wars
The topic headline is "civil wars" and if you read the following after it shows it's not limited to the title. Includes: insurguncies, uprisings, rebellions...etc

Also if you're going to delete something please explain why first.--Lamrock 07:03, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Fair use
I just uploaded this picture of Hurricane Hugo as a Category 5. It probably originally came from NOAA, which means it would be free licence, but it came directly from UNISYS, which is copyrighted but their copyright page states:


 * Authorization is hereby provided to you to copy documents published by Unisys Corporation on the World Wide Web provided such copies are used for non-commercial purposes and solely for use within your organization. This authorization is specifically conditioned upon including all legends, copyright, proprietary and other notices which appear herein on all copies you make of such documents whether they pertain to Unisys Corporation or another party.

Which it is. Is that fair use, or otherwise legal?

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 21:31, 8 October 2005 (UTC)


 * So in other words, I shouldn't kill myself worrying about it?


 * E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 17:16, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Washington Metro
Started up WikiProject Washington Metro to help improve the articles on the Metro, and hope you'll join us. Schuminweb 01:12, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Requests for comment/Zizban
Any chance of a certification on this? He was at you too. --Kiand 09:19, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * By the way, I just wanted to say I am not related to User:Zizban in anyway, shape or form. Have a nice day!
 * Telling me I need "mental help" constitutes a personal attack, No_personal_attacks and will not be tolerated. if you do it again, you will be reported. I am not this Zizban person, if you have a beef with him, there are appropriate venues. Stay away from my talk page unless you have something constructive to say. Thank you.--User:Zerozero
 * I am on a system that rotates dynamic IPS about every seven days. I may have the same IP as another user in this general region quite often.

Karl Marginson
Hi,

Just wondering why you reverted the anon's changes to Karl Marginson. Were they inaccurate? I'd be happy to rewrite them in a more encyclopaedic way if that was the problem.

CTOAGN 19:08, 12 October 2005 (UTC)


 * No probs, thanks for looking after the article. I don't really do my share of RC patrol, so I'm grateful to the people that do :-)  I think I'll put the edit back and then verify it as best I can - the related article FC United of Manchester has been benefitting tremendously from anon edits so I'd rather give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Cheers, CTOAGN 23:23, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

I need advice...
And a lot of other things. I'm in kind of a state of shock right now. NSLE out of the blue posed a message on my talk page saying that he was considering nominating me for adminship! I nearly had an anurism. I have contributed a lot of useful information (40 of the hurricane season articles, two large pages and many others from my 1,800 edits since becoming a user in January). He also said I help people out a lot. But I know just the bare basics of Wikipedia policy. I went to the Wikipedia page on adminship and I felt like I was on a another planet. First of all, what the hell is a sysop? Sure I contribute a lot, sure I help people, but being an administrator is a hell of a lot more than that. Since this was never originally a goal for me, I have no concept of what it is to be an administrator. I got involved with Wikipedia as a medium for my hurricane obsession. Never in my wildest dreams did I think that someone would feel I deserved the honor. I made my first anon edit less than a year ago. I don't know what to think now.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - my dropsonde 21:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

WMATA Infoboxes
First off, re: map links, I included those because the infobox I based it on (the infobox for the New York City subway) had them, and I thought why not. Plus since Metro lists street addresses for all the stations, it's fairly easy to get the latitude/longitude coordinates.

As for width, this was something I didn't give much thought to, since that was carried directly over from the NYC infobox. I'm open to playing with the width, but I also don't want the infobox to become a lot longer to compensate for losing the width, since I did play with the placement of the middle line a bit to keep things on a single line. This may also be a bit of a personal bias here, but I'd rather see a shorter and wider box that the article curls around under (or at least goes down past), than a long and narrow box that sticks out beyond the bottom of the article.

Next/Preceding was also something that New York did, and I was on the fence about including it in the WMATA infobox. I ended up including it, with the assumption that we can always remove it later. I'm thinking that removing it is probably a good idea at this point, since that would shorten the Infobox considerably, which will be especially helpful for stations like Metro Center, Gallery Place, L'Enfant Plaza, and Fort Totten, where four total stations would be listed (two preceding, two next).

Interested in knowing what you think about this. SchuminWeb (Talk) 10:55, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Hurricane
I'm vaguely in the hurricane's track. You should drop in to the chat tonight so we can talk. I'll be busy with RA business to do it any other time. Mike H (Talking is hot) 19:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

before you go
Take this Barnstar of Diligence for all the things you go through here.



Take care,  Molotov   (talk)     21:08, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


 * If I had any say, I would like this Medal rescinded. Wallie 16:56, 4 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Which is exactly why you don't. :)


 * Well you have made my life hell. Wallie 19:19, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Blocking
Please make use of test1 to test3 templates before blocking as per policy. Thanks. &asymp; jossi fresco &asymp; t &bull; @ 02:35, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Subpages
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 * Move: Why not just move it to Mallorca/infobox? // Pathoschild 09:56, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Because subpages are even worse than single-use and metatemplates. --Golbez 16:16, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

(Above posted on Templates_for_deletion.) What's wrong with subpages? // Pathoschild 20:29, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh well
Hope you can re-nominate candidates for adminship because, unless I pull a miracle in the next five days, I'm probably not going to make it. But who knows, maybe I should be a bit more optimistic. I'm grateful for the 19 supports and the 11 opposes have given me a lot of good feedback (basically that I need to edit stuff besides the hurricane articles). But 19 supports, 11 opposes and 4 neutrals ain't gonna win it. These votes are tough: I read that one guy didn't make it even with 30 supports and only 14 opposes. Sigh. Oh well, maybe next time.

Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde 01:54, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

US Economy
It was nice to have an ally in the recent struggle. Thank you for your support. Nicholas F 00:34, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism
Thanks for reverting the vandalism at my user page! I owe you one. Tito xd (?!?) 20:08, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Storm
Hello: Creating a redirect out of an article that large is bold...reckless even. Suggest discussing it on article talk page prior to creating redirect. thanks! &mdash; Gaff <b style="color:MediumSlateBlue; font-size:smaller;">ταλκ</b> 01:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. I think I agree with you.  Almost like a current event page.  Once the storm passes, so to speak, will probably be reduced in size or removed... &mdash; Gaff  <b style="color:MediumSlateBlue; font-size:smaller;">ταλκ</b> 01:51, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Stressed
YOU DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE MORE PLACES TO FIND HURRICANE STUFF THAN THAT STINKIN' NOAA. TRY THE WEATHER CHANNEL OR WUNDERGROUNG OR EVEN SEARCH ON YAHOO! And how do YOU know if that what Wunderground does or not? And tell me how Wikipedia does not let me make a page about Tropical Storm Alpha but they let some other nerd! And he tried after me. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (unsigned comments by User: Tcatron565)

Tcatron565
I see that you have warned Tcatron565 for repeated copyright violations. As this user has been violating copyright for many many weeks now and has been continually warned, I have requested comment on that user at RFC Tcatron565. See Requests_for_comment/User_conduct for the full list. You may wish to contribute some thoughts there. --Yamla 14:51, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Blocking - 3 reverts
Um. Where exactly have I made more than three reverts in a 24 hour period?

Auto date format conversion
What exactly is that anyway? --Holderca1 13:46, 2 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Oh, okay, didn't even know about that. I can't believe people would start edit wars over that, seems a bit childish.  Personally I could care less as long as it is consistently put the same way throughout the article.  It would be nice if they devised a way to do that without the wiki links.  I think it's crazy to link to the same article 3 times in a single sentence, but it's the system we have so we have to go with it. --Holderca1 18:54, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Stop deleting things
Everything I write, you want to delete. On reading discussions you have with others, you do it to them too. Then you bring on the three revert rule and get your enemies banned. I think that's disgusting. Wallie 20:14, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

As for your last remark, I do not need a break. It is you that deletes everything I put up. And now you are saying what I say is always POV. In other words, saying anything positive about PH is not OK. Negative comment only is NPOV off course. You people are sick. Wallie 06:57, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Wealth normalization description
A descripion by Chris Landsea is here. . The descripion reads:

Normalized - Normalization reflects inflation changes in personal wealth and coastal county population to 2004.

I translate it as this: Normalization adjusts to 2004 $ inflation changes in personal wealth and coastal population. This should end any further bickering on the subject. Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 03:52, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Hurricane Alice
At the list of notable tropical cyclones, I changed the Hurricane Alice links to read Hurricane Alice2 because that's what Unisys calls it. See here and here. That is also mentioned in that storm's article. Take care. Miss Michelle | Talk to Michelle 19:31, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Parishes of Jamaica
just to let you know that Ive addressed your questions, but I have decided that the names are suitable. Or an  e    (t)   (c)   (@)  21:30, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

I added BACK what 86.137.221.167 deleted for no legitimate reason
A few days ago, 86.137.221.167 had deleted a huge amount of details claiming that the "Motive section was getting overblown, unstructured and biassed to Al-Qaeda rather than neutral." and that is a load of crap. He way not like al-qeada's motives and you may not like them but this is what they are and people have a right to know the facts. I was living in NYC on 9/11 and it is an insult to all the victims when people suppress the motives for the attacks. A put the info back it is all factual, what right do you have to hide the motives from others?

what are you doing?
Yes there are DMZ that separate very different cultures. Look at the Golan Heights with ISrael, Syria and Lebanon. The edits I made explained that the division was supposed to be temporary and that there was supposed to be a nation wide vote for unification. Are you trying to suppress these facts from readers is a misguided attempt to play the game for U.S. policy? Why don't you let people find out the facts. The way it was before was deceptive.

Rattenberg
Thanks! Yeah, I saw the story on slashdot, wrote about it on my blog and then discovered there was no wikipedia entry. Thus it was created. I love peer production!

GWB RfC
Hi Golbez. I actually saw your apology before the RfC threat, so no harm done. I was going to suggest opening an RfC on the protection-or-not of the article given its protection log, but I see it's already on AN/I, so that is probably sufficient. My personal opinion is that I think that having a high-profile page protected until 2009 is damaging. -Splash talk 18:06, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Golbez rules!
Hello. Not sure if you have seen this. :-) Subramanian talk 15:33, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Golbitz is the smartest guy we ever had. He is so brainy!! He even knows that Xbox was not launched in Mojave Desert. He is cute.

Your arrogance and ignorance is striking
your arrogance and ignorance is striking. You start revert wars. And than accuse me of creating a mess when I forked to avoid revert war. But as someone said above, you seem to be the very clever guy here. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 19:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Do you think what you did was an abuse of admin rights? Because you used your rights in a conflict you were engaged in? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 00:37, 13 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Your use of admin power in a conflict your were involved in: Special:Undelete/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(subnational_entities)

Tobias Conradi (Talk) 14:59, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Sosoliso Airlines Flight 1145 AfD
Thanks for closing the AfD - I didn't want to delve into the closing process (I've never closed one and didn't want to spend ages looking for the correct tags). I removed the tag from the article because it was an embarassment to have the top In the news item on AfD. violet/riga (t) 23:29, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

The Cult of The Corrupted Admin
This is fair warning, Mr. Golbez. Several of us who have experienced your arrogant, biased ways are forming up for an RfC against you. You'd think that after crossing all these people, you'd get it. But you don't get it! You are not a good admin and you deserve to be taken to task. Have a nice day!


 * Relax, padwan, the time for the RfC will come.

Golbosaur
Raor. Uncharted_Waters is everyone's favorite rodent's area. :d mewt.

Tobias Conradi RfC
Since I couldn't get the Mediation Cabal to act quickly enough, I filed the RfC. Please make sure I did it correctly, as it took several hours, and I've never done one before. William Allen Simpson 03:14, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I made all this comments because you signed what William wrote. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 15:28, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) thanks for noting me
 * 2) thx for admitting that I had hundreds of useful edits
 * 3) Template:Subnational entity dispute is resolved
 * 4) the 271 deleted pages are (I assume) 90% pages I set for deletion. A large part were categories that I brought to the more common format eg "Argentine provinces" -> "Provinces of Argentina"
 * 5) User:Tobias Conradi may be male
 * 6) I did not knew that I "allways reverted exactly 3 times per 24 hours" and I assume sometimes I reverted less than 3 times per 24h
 * 7) In addition, I've recently discovered that after losing a straw poll on the page in August, s/he has been vigorously moving the subnational entities all over the *pedia, contrary to consensus. This has resulted in roughly 250 deleted pages by administrators! I think this is a false claim as the 271 deleted pages mentioned above have nothing to do with moves of article pages.
 * 8) why do you want me quickly suspended for several monthes?
 * 9) where did I accuse William of using sockpuppets? maybe I did but I can't remember. I can imagine I might have somewhere raised the question wether he is one. but that's it.

OK, it has been posted 48 hours, and has two folks listed, now what happens? Nobody has moved it down to confirmed, do I do that? William Allen Simpson 04:36, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I don't really know; I think there are admins who monitor RfC and will do the moving themselves. It doesn't matter if it doesn't happen immediately. --Golbez 05:29, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Ah, but there we disagree! I'd have asked for permanent banishment, but the general thing here seems to be for some limited period of time. I never imagined that a single user could do so much damage so quickly without prompt action, and would continue after warning! In the mundane world, there'd be a torte action and permanent injunction. William Allen Simpson 12:45, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I think you're blowing this way, way out of proportion. Tobias has been here for a very long time, much longer than you have. Anything he's done can be easily corrected, and is simply a difference of opinion (though better respect for the opinions of others would be nice). Also, an RfC simply can't result in any banishment, permanent or temporary. An RfAr is required for that, and we can't just leap to that. --Golbez 17:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Just saw your recent changes to your confirmation (and moved the above here from my talk page, it helps continuity to have it all in one place). I added a link to the deletions list, but 250 was just a rough count, 50 per page. It's actually a bit higher.
 * This kind of extreme behaviour and lack of comity is the very thing that gives Wikipedia a bad name among professionals, along with the unreliable content among educators. It should result in the strictest sanctions, especially as s/he has been around a "very long time".
 * As for "easily corrected", my guess is working full time all by myself, it would take 4 months or more to fix just the massive edits and moves over the past few weeks, and I'm not sure how deep the rot extends. It should go without saying that I cannot work full time for 4 months.
 * Thanks for the information about escalation and arbitration. I'd patterned the RfC on the content of the others available, and assumed that the sanctions others requested were within scope.  But in the meantime, let's hope some useful action is taken.  For me, it will be an indication of the viability of the procedures.
 * William Allen Simpson 22:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * because you made nonsense statements like referring to my deleted pages, I am very interested too how the procedure works out. And at the end your behaviour of deleting is more vandal like than mine of adding. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 16:13, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

You would be very amazed at how quickly someone can move pages just by using Firefox tabs. I've done it myself. Don't accuse HIM of using a bot. I am starting to question my endorsement of your RfC, but since this is merely a request for COMMENT, I will stick to it, hoping to get some comments. --Golbez 23:53, 18 December 2005 (UTC)


 * OK, I'm amazed! My edits take tens of minutes each, as I try to check each "what links here".  I'd never have imagined there was some way of handling this via FireFox tabs to do a hundred or more per hour. (I was an early Mozilla contributor, been using it daily for years, and thought I was fairly familiar with the product.) Please enlighten me?
 * As to failing to handle disambiguation and redirects, I've only included one example, but I'm pretty sure I've found a dozen. Just look at his history (Special:Contributions&target=Tobias_Conradi&offset=0&limit=500), especially at the time in question. No editting to be seen, just move after move after move!
 * Actually, I'm pretty disappointed in the lack of comments thus far. No wonder vandalism is so prevalent, it's hard to stop on a piecemeal basis.
 * Ah well, thanks for your assistance!
 * --William Allen Simpson 02:47, 19 December 2005 (UTC)


 * William you talk nonsense. Your accusations was that I use a bot because my edits are so fast. Golbez pointed out this can be done with FF. Golbez did not say I use FF tabs to do the editing itself. You yourself claimed there is no evidence that I check redirects. So if you assumed that I do not check and you are a FF contributor who knows the tab features very well and the Golbez comment needs to be amended to enlighten you ... mmmh why than did you claim I use a bot? In short: bot claim, don't check for redirect claim, and the new FF-known-but-how-can-FF-check-claim do not go together very well Tobias Conradi (Talk) 03:03, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

An example: I might load up 20 pages. I might check all of their "What links here" and middle-click each one that needs editing. I might now have 150 pages open. I edit each one, then I might save all in quick succession, ctrl-tab alt-s ctrl-tab alt-s, etc. Thus, 150 edits can be made inside a minute, while they actually took about 15 minutes to actually do. --Golbez 02:56, 19 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, there you go, it may be possible. I'd never have loaded up 150 pages in the first place.  On my iMacG5, it sucks up so much memory over time (per page is never released) that I usually quit FireFox from time to time just to bring back page display speed.
 * Being a more conservative programmer with too much experience of lost work, I'd want to save my work a lot more often than once every 150 pages.
 * Any substantive comments on the UP text?
 * --William Allen Simpson 03:17, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

need your help
Golbez, maybe you can at least convince William not to destroy the comparison table. Someland and somelandian cannot usefull be replaced by Country. The distinction between adjective and noun gets lost. I don't know why he is so bad faith assuming. I think his proposal has really some good points because it uses brackets or parenthesis as he words it. I don't think my work destroys very much, because it is only work on standardization it can be easily undone by a robot one day if a good solution is found. I think there are really worse things happening on WP. Beside the someland/somelandian thing, he is deleting proposal D from the table, I think this is more vandalise like than if I point out that in Honduras english word order is not official. Because I ADD something on a project page clarifying a wrong claim and he DELETES. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 16:04, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
thank you for your FF comment. That's exactly what I do, I use the tabs in FF. Maybe you can also tell him that the deleted pages are mostly categories and templates that I voted for deletion. I think the name changes that I did there are without any dispute at all. There was one for Ecuador or so, but this was reversed to the original. I removed brackets in the cat name there, because never saw this in other subnational entity cats. So the 271 delete pages is IMO of no say. Furthermore I allways check for double redirects, I even had a little fight with SqueakBox because he left behind double redirects. The there is no evidence that he fixed redirects-claim is of course wrong. Maybe he found no evidence, but then he did not search. It could also be stated there is NO evidence that he did NOT fix redirects would be much closer to truth. But there is now evidence of Assume-bad-faith by William. I think something YOU never did. (Or maybe I forgot it) But I think our dispute was more in another area. He could also write there is no evidence Tobias did not kill Kennedy. You understand what I mean? I mean, better he would go and provide evidence that I did NOT fix double-redirects. I don't understand: There is something signed by William and you. But than William goes editing the text. How is this handled in WP? For the reader that is not using history, it is as if you signed the new edits too. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 00:54, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Again I have to say thank you. Thank you for your small but hopefully very helpfull "intervention". Tobias Conradi (Talk) 02:16, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

35 000? so you have slightly more edits than me? ... I think I have to go to move some subnational entity pages around ;-). I try not only to respect the policies but also to respect other editors. Maybe we can do something more than only talk about article naming. I think infoboxes would be a nice task. Is there a Golbot that could do some stuff on it? Rambot did a lot for US geographic articles. But who will help Africa and Latin America? I wonder whether a generalized Infobox_Territory would be feasible, I can imagine this could become qute complicated. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 06:42, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

reverts with minor flag
Just saw your revert saying "... reverts are *never* to be marked minor. that is all."
 * If I made a mistake, I'm sorry. I certainly checked earlier, and just checked again.  Cannot find that policy.
 * Also, I noticed earlier (and am looking at it now) that in the reverts of page blanking over at Hanukka, Eliezer, Dan100, Hintori and Adashiel all use minor. I assumed Conradi was just blowing smoke.
 * --William Allen Simpson 00:27, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Whopping
Personally, I think that my word choice gave the article a bit more zest and personality. However, since you have a problem with it, I will refrain from adding it again.

User:206.226.255.59
On 9/22/2005, you blocked User:206.226.255.59 for relentlessly adding commercial links. Guess what? The 90 days are up, and he's back. Hit him again, please? TIA, -- Mwanner | Talk 16:00, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Ghana Map
My goal was just to make "Greater Accra" readable. I have changed the authorship information on the Image:Ghana_regions.png page to show that my map is adapted from yours (This was used by someone who modified one of my maps). Is this acceptable? Acntx 11:46, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Vandal again
someone with the address 152.3.232.17 is at it again (I noticed that you blocked that one in September). (see MoveOn.org) Thought I'd let ya know.--Hraefen 23:19, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry For The Delay, The MedCab Is Here
I'm going to be checking all the edits at Request for comment/Naming conventions (subnational entities) over the next few days. I'll let you know what I think hopefully by the end of next week. karmafist 03:34, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Hey, just letting you know that i've finalized my analysis at Request for comment/Naming conventions (subnational entities). karmafist 19:06, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Google Earth Screenshot

 * Being "pretty sure" does not give you the right to delete software screenshots that have been indicated as such in the upload process. Please do not delete these.  You can seek an administrator or arbitrators input on the matter. PeterZed 19:52, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Your indication that you will delete the screenshot before the template matter has been resolved shows poor judgement. The matter is now one of international security and I expect it to remain. Thank you for your co-operation until this matter is resolved by the proper authorities PeterZed 20:01, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Give me a few minutes
give me a few minutes to edit and update the map please. PeterZed 20:07, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

thank you
am reading the revision rules now.

Sites that give IP addresses are stupid...
... there are a million ways of finding out. Shouldn't we just remove them all and add a section at the start with a brief explanation of how to check via your computer? - Ta bu shi da yu 05:51, 29 December 2005 (UTC)