User talk:Goldsztajn/Archives/2021/September

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
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Attempt at a transcluded page...
Hey Goldsztajn -- I've set up the Editathon page, and I made an attempt at transcluding the page 20-Minute Article Assessment page here. Can you advise whether this looks correct (and whether you think it will be helpful to participants)? I was trying to figure out if it's possible to set it up so that editors can quickly access the source page by clicking "edit" on the transcluded section, but that's a little beyond my skills. Primarily, I want to avoid any event participant confusion. Thanks, Alanna the Brave (talk) 18:19, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Update -- I've adjusted what's transcluded, so it should work fine to at least point folks in the right direction. Alanna the Brave (talk) 19:27, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey, it all looks excellent! Great work. I made a few tweaks. I'm also adding the invitation to some projects where I've been active.  Just one question - the 20-minute pre-assessment is not appearing on the main page of the drive, is that deliberate?  For the moment it is just linked, but it's not very prominent.  What do you think of placing it as a separate section above article outcomes?  Also, I would like to move it to a subpage of Meetup/1 rather than the project page - that way the navigation link at the top redirects to the meet-up and not the project page... is that ok for you?  Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 22:49, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear it looks good (and thanks for the tweaks)! Moving the 20-Minute Assessment page to a subpage of Meetup/1 sounds totally fine. I didn't put the 20-minute assessment on the edithathon main page because I worried it was getting too crowded (there's already a ton of text on the main page), but maybe that's not the case. Just to clarify -- are you suggesting placing the transcluded assessment page in a section above "Article Outcomes"? I agree the current links are not very prominent, so if you think making these changes will help participants find and navigate the 20-Minute Assessment area more easily, I'm all for it. Alanna the Brave (talk) 23:35, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Black Monday, Louvre
Hi. Thank you for your comments on Talk:Black Monday (1987) back in May 2020. I'm gonna add one not-too-long (but not too short) paragraph covering the narrative that blames the Louvre Accord for Black Monday. I have found several good sources. In a few weeks, or perhaps sooner, I'll take it to FAC. If you'd like to help, that'd be a good thing! Cheers &diams; Lingzhi.Random (talk) 09:36, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, unfortunately, I'm committed to quite a lot for the rest of the year, I won't have time to help. My only comment though regarding my comments at the GAN review, is that I wasn't blaming the Louvre Accord, I was noting it was a factor amongst a number (frankly more symptomatic than causal); the point I was trying to emphasise is the origins of Black Friday have their origins is deeper, long-term macroeconomic issues.   Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 07:50, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! With the clarity of a one-year pause, I'm seeing several things (while researching) that I missed the first time around. This will take longer than I thought... But of course I will not continue to bother you on this topic, after any brief response you may wish to make. I wish you the very best in your full schedule! [As an aside, I am a weird person who enjoys cleaning up reference sections, as in Marshall Plan. If you ever face a huge pile of dirty dishes beneath the heading "References", feel free to drop me a line.] Cheers, &diams; Lingzhi.Random (talk) 08:01, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

GA Status
Hello, it’s been a while, hope you are in good health. I was thinking of the 1996 Otokoto riots & I was wondering if you can take a second look at it, regarding if or not i should submit it for GA review. The article is getting a little muddy as numerous editors are editing on it, please you have my permission to remove what may be considered irrelevant in the article. Celestina007 (talk) 14:35, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

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