User talk:Goldsztajn/Archives/2022/June

Question from Bradwss (14:59, 15 June 2022)
Hi,

I’m looking to create a page for my company, VerityStream. I’ve begun this task because all there currently is on Wikipedia is a page for Symed, which is a company that VerityStream merged with years ago. The page doesn’t have to be long, but it should have a basic description of the overview of the company and its history. I was wondering if someone could give me some insight as to how to include references to boost notability. I’ve read that press releases and links to the company website aren’t acceptable references, but they would be perfect in this case for referencing the brief content that I intend to include on this Wiki page.

Thanks, Brad --Bradwss (talk) 14:59, 15 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Bradwss - thanks for reaching out and seeking help - it's good practice given the conflict of interest you have. Unfortunately, I suspect my answers may not be what you are hoping for, but nevertheless it's good to follow best practice. In order for a company to be considered notable (ie worthy of having an article) there needs to be independent, reliable sourcing with significant coverage of the company.  Press releases are self-published and cannot be considered independent or reliable.  Have a read through WP:NCORP which gives full details of what is required to demonstrate notability. I've had a look at the Sy.Med Development page and it lacks reliable, independent sourcing that shows significant coverage.  Feel free to post some links here which you think might establish notability, I'm happy to continue to advise you.  However, a brief, initial search for Sy.Med or VerityStream does not reveal anything obvious to me that satisfies the notability criteria. However, from what I can see, VerityStream and Symed are owned by HealthStream, which appears to be a US$200 million company. HealthStream may well be notable and perhaps sourcing exists, but I've not looked, to satisfy NCORP requirements. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 10:53, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @Goldsztajn, I wanted to double check with you to confirm that these sources wouldn't be able to establish notability; I also want to make sure I understand the reasons why:
 * VerityStream Acquires CredentialMyDoc, for $9M - FinSMEs
 * HealthStream subsidiary VerityStream buys CredentialMyDoc - Nashville Business Journal (bizjournals.com)
 * VerityStream Acquires CredentialMyDoc for $9M in Cash - Healthcare M&A (hitconsultant.net)
 * These sources are significant and secondary, but they probably aren't reliable or independent - they come from general business sites and one of them is a local business journal.
 * VerityStream, a HealthStream Company, Acquires CredentialMyDoc | Business Wire
 * VerityStream, a HealthStream Company, Acquires CredentialMyDoc (apnews.com)
 * EX-99.1 (sec.gov)
 * These are reliable, secondary and significant, but in the AP article, the source is healthstream, and the business wire doesn't cite a particular source, so that would disqualify them from being independent and therefore notable?
 * Medical Staff Credentialing Vendors Meeting New Telehealth Needs (revcycleintelligence.com)
 * This source would probably qualify, but it doesn't provide any basic info about the company or its history, so it probably wouldn't be used as a reference due to the purpose of this page.
 * Something that I thought would be a good summary of notability: if a company is notable, other independent sources will take their own initiative to cover stories related to that company. Let me know if you have comments on that.
 * Thanks Bradwss (talk) 17:27, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Bradwss The first five are all essentially the same: they are from the same company press release (the sixth). The seventh source is borderline for two reasons - it essentially repeats the findings of a report from a marketing agency and as you note, the coverage of VerityStream is trivial. None of these to me can be considered WP:SECONDARY sources. How Wikipedia defines notability can be most easily understood from the general notability guideline, note the comment at the end: "If a topic does not meet these criteria but still has some verifiable facts, it might be useful to discuss it within another article." I recommend you focus on determining whether HealthStream, the parent company, is notable and if so, information about subsidiaries could be included there.  Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 20:38, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that advice. I will look to see if a HealthStream page can be created. Bradwss (talk) 16:36, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from IamJoarSabate (15:58, 16 June 2022)
Hello Blaze Wolf,

I'm hopefully you'll gonna helped me please create me a Knowledge Graph in Wikipedia to see in the Google Search Result with my personal information publicly named. I want to know have my personality identification to see I am in the public figures or interest.

Thank You, I'll be wait your response. --IamJoarSabate (talk) 15:58, 16 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @IamJoarSabate - I'm sorry, I cannot help you, what you are requesting is not the purpose of Wikipedia. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 20:42, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from Bradwss (19:48, 17 June 2022)
Is there any way you could give me a screenshot or allow me to access the version of the page which was deleted? I want to provide my manager a copy of the progress made with this task. Thanks --Bradwss (talk) 19:48, 17 June 2022 (UTC)


 * @Bradwss - I don't know which deleted page you mean. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 07:01, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from NeverTry4Me (04:24, 23 June 2022)
Hello, what's wrong with this page Jyotirmay Chakravarty. Please assist me. --- Signed by NeverTry4Me Talk 04:24, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
 * Backlog status

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
 * Backlog drive

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
 * TIP – New school articles

There is a new template available,, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
 * Misc

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.


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Women in Green editathon is live
Hey Goldsztajn -- I just wanted to let you know that the July editathon page is up and running, so if you decide you have time/capacity, you're welcome to participate however you like. No worries either way though. :-) I hope things are going well for you this month. Best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 13:57, 24 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Alanna the Brave - doing ok, just juggling lots and thanks for the heads up. Hope things well for you, too.  Sorry not to have been able to help with the set up of the editathon, but I'll try to make some time to participate... I should have a little more flexibility towards the end of July.  Kind regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 10:22, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from Max10101 (05:02, 27 June 2022)
Can I become an editor? --Max10101 (talk) 05:02, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Max10101 - you are an editor! Welcome! I left a message for you on your talk page. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 12:15, 27 June 2022 (UTC)