User talk:Golgofrinchian/Archives/2007/March

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AfD nomination of Bodhin Kjolhede
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Yasutani
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Conflict of Interest
I note you say "Member of Rochester Zen Center and mostly updating that school's wikipedia presence.". You need to be careful of conflict of interests. We're not a webhost and you shouldn't edit on behalf of your school. Secretlondon (talk) 00:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Sōtō Zen
Hi Golgofrinchian, and thanks for creating the article Sōtō Zen. Wikipedia already had an article named Sōtō so I've redirected your new article there. Improvements will be most welcome. Best regards, Fg2 (talk) 20:59, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Kapleau in 1975 low.jpg
I have deleted Image:Kapleau in 1975 low.jpg that you had uploaded as it was a copyviolation and we have received a complaint on OTRS [Ticket#: 2007122110013296]. If we've deleted in error, and you can prove the copyright status, please let us know. Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  05:46, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Rochester Zen center
Hey there. I wanted to ask if you'd mind uploading your RZC images to Wikimedia Commons also, so that I can group them with all other Zen temple photos. Thanks. (Mind meal (talk) 05:55, 18 January 2008 (UTC))


 * Yeah, you just go to http://commons.wikimedia.org/ and upload them there, after creating an account; if you have lots of RZC photos, categorize them in a Category:Rochester Zen Center there, and then categorize that category in Category:Zen temples. There is also a Category:Zen teachers at Wiki Commons, if you have many of various Zen teachers. Hope this helps! Also, consider using a Creative Commons Attribution license or a Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike license. (Mind meal (talk) 05:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC))

Speedy deletion of Western zen
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Zen Buddhism in the United States
I am looking for editors to come to my sandbox at User:Mind meal/Sandbox26 to collaborate on creating a first-class article on Zen Buddhism in the United States. Interested parties can contact me on my talk page. I would like to see a group of research-oriented editors come aboard. I think it may work best if various editors focus on one particular dimension of Zen in America (always backed by references) and we can add various sections, come up with section titles, and eventually bring the article to "completion." While this is a labor of love for me, I fear it will take eons to get the article right alone. With the help of other editors, however, we can make progress much faster. Please contact me before starting to edit my sandbox. I want to know the members I am working with before doing so. I would especially like you to cover the contributions of Philip Kapleau. I do ask that everything be referenced, however. I see that an article titled "Western Zen" had just been deleted. Let us collaborate to create an article that will stand the test of time. Thank you. (Mind meal (talk) 19:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC))


 * Thanks for deciding to help out. Just a couple issues. The first has to do with the copyedit of the portion by James Ishmael Ford's text about Yasutani and Kapleau. This needs to be condensed to one paragraph, as this article will simply be an overview of Zen in America. The point will be try to to link as many other articles that we can to this main article, and so space will become limited. Basically we need to summarize the information in a very condensed form, sticking to the important factors, ie. Why they are important, who they received transmission from, who they gave transmission to, centers they opened, and their legacy. The second issue concerns the timeline. I think we should create a Timeline of Zen Buddhism in the United States article, and add it to the See also section. What do you think? Also, I do not intend to have Haku'un Yasutani and Kapleau to have their own section, as again we want to fit them into the overall story somewhere in the "pivotal years" storyline. I also have some pointers for you about where to conduct research, and how to better format references so that we can really get this article swinging. If you are interested, let me know. (Mind meal (talk) 01:07, 14 February 2008 (UTC))


 * I've reworked the timeline a bit and made some editorial decision, I hope you don't mind. The timeline has a long, long way to go as there is so much to cover. (Mind meal (talk) 20:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC))

Dharma Talk
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 * Hi, Golgofrinchian! The reason I deleted that version of Dharma Talk is because another member of the community tagged it as inappropriate for the encyclopedia.  I'm an admin, so I clean up after other editors - in this case, that meant deleting because the article was several hundred words that didn't indicate why I or any other reader of Wikipedia should find "Dharma Talk" encyclopedic.  The article still doesn't indicate why it's important.  Wikipedia isn't a textbook, it's an encyclopedia, so articles should be about important subjects.  What I recommend is that you review Wikipedia's notability guidelines and see if "Dharma Talk" fits those criteria, the article should reflect it. You may be able to find other editors interested in helping you out at WikiProject Buddhism.
 * Finally, please be very careful when throwing around words like "religious intolerance" or "religious persecution". Wikipedia strives to have a neutral point of view, and to not persecute any religion.  My actions were not out of any hatred, persecution, or dislike of Buddhism or you, I was simply trying to make a better encyclopedia.  Please read through WP:CIVIL some time to understand why we comment on content not on other editors.  Thanks much, and happy editing! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 15:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

My "cheat sheet"
==Notes==

==References== Books *

Website *

Journal *

Infoboxes


 * Guide_to_layout - use this for referencing how you should lay out a page; i.e. where a see also section goes (in what order)
 * Citation_templates - if you ever need a reference template for something other than the above, look here for it.
 * Google Books Search - A researcher's best friend.
 * findarticles.com - hit or miss site, but sometimes comes in handy. When using findarticles.com, cite the source they are displaying, not their site.
 * Worldcat.org - use this site to provide links to the books you reference in the url parameter of the citation templates; this site also comes in handy for finding basically any type of media an individual has ever had published (including thesis papers)
 * www.shambhalasun.com/ - surprisingly broad coverage of many Buddhist teachers and Dharma centers


 * Categorzing

[[Category:]] [[Category:]] [[Category:]] [[Category:]] [[Category:]]


 * templates

This last one I never use, it makes most pages display odd.


 * article talk pages

I hope this helps you and you have fun with it! (Mind meal (talk) 19:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC))

Ralph Chapin
I am having trouble finding references that would establish the notability of this individual. There just isn't anything there, aside from a few mentions by Rochester Zen Center on their site, that justifies a stand-alone article. His information should be condensed and included in the overall RZC article, instead. If you can find sources that cover Ralph Chapin in depth outside of RZC, please include them in the article. Otherwise, again, this article fails WP:N. I hope you understand I am not trying to be a jerk here, or belittling your efforts. Just some friendly tips. Because this article will undoubtedly be deleted someday, it would make yourself look better if you nominated it for deletion by placing a tag on the article yourself. (Mind meal (talk) 01:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC))
 * I added some biography information and someone added the biography stub. I will flesh out the article more and add any other info I can find. If not then I can add the tag you suggest. The reason I wrote the article in the first place is the reference to him on a few pages here. ThanksGolgofrinchian (talk) 14:52, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Photographs
Per OTRS ticket 1367211, I have removed all the photographs from the Philip Kapleau article, and deleted them at the request of the copyright owner.

I would strongly recommend you read and understand our copyright policy; images found on the web are copyrighted by default and you are not legally allowed to copy them and release them. &mdash; Coren (talk) 05:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Who is the copyright owner that notified you? I took several of those pictures with my own camera.Golgofrinchian (talk) 13:08, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The Rochester Zen Center. It is possible that some of the pictures I deleted might have been yours; but given than many were under false or incorrect licenses (you can not upload a picture to which someone claims copyright and claim it is your own work and that you place it in the public domain), it was impossible for me to know which of those, if any, were actually yours.  &mdash; Coren (talk) 13:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * "if any" ok, well I am updating all of my work "if any" of it matters you can contact the rightful owner, me. Golgofrinchian (talk) 13:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Notability of Zen Center of Syracuse
A tag has been placed on Zen Center of Syracuse requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Corvus cornix talk  23:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Diff
 Pseudo One  00:00, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Zen Center of Syracuse
A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Zen Center of Syracuse, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add  to the top of Zen Center of Syracuse. Fredrick day (talk) 00:21, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Zen Center of Syracuse
An editor has nominated Zen Center of Syracuse, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

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Re: Help!
Hi there Golgofrinchian. I apologize for not having contacted you first before discussing your photographs. To be honest, I was a bit skeptical about the Kapleau photos myself, because they seemed to be taken by so many different photographers. I too have obtained permission from various sources for photographs on Wikipedia, but it is always suggested that you demonstrate permission explicitly by providing an email transcript. It is possible that Rochester Zen Center gave you permission to use those photographs without actually owning the copyright to them. Here is an example of how to obtain a photograph without running into hassles: Image:Mel Weitsman.JPG. Get an email from Rochester Zen Center releasing their photograph under a GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2. I have obtained many photos this way. as for administrators hassling you, try to not take such actions personally. I can tell you are trying hard to contribute here, and applaud your efforts. However, I notice that you don't reference articles you start. If you don't provide solid references, your article will ultimately be deleted. Try writing articles in a format similar to: Mel Weitsman. Use Google Books and Google News for your sources, or other reliable websites. Websites that end with .org and .edu are often most reliable. So, if you would only reference your material I think it would save most articles from deletion 99% of the time. That said, I sometimes have articles I make challenged despite references. Anyway, here is an example of what to write when emailing a center for a photo(s) (I would suggest you contact RZC and have them release just one photo of Bodhin Kjolhede and Kapleau under the said license-photos that are sure to not have any copyright issues):

Dear Webmaster,

I am a volunteer editor at Wikipedia looking for a photograph of Sojun Mel Weitsman. I am wondering if you would be willing to relicense the following photograph:

http://www.berkeleyzencenter.org/Images/melfoto1.jpg

for use in the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Weitsman

One way to give your permission to use the above noted image is to reply to this email with the statement:

I own the copyright to the image mentioned in your email letter and found at: http://www.berkeleyzencenter.org/Images/melfoto1.jpg

I grant permission to copy, distribute and/or modify these documents under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts.

(Your Signature)

Kindly, Mind_meal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mind_meal) GNU Free License link: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:GFDL

(Mind meal (talk) 03:21, 7 March 2008 (UTC))

Anti-Buddhist Admins
I wouldn't say anti-Buddhist, but anti-religious. Indeed, it seems the particular nominating editor does have some sort of axe to grind. And, although Rochester Zen Center was previously not referenced well, notability is obvious by doing just a simple Google search. Thus you have so many keep votes. Thank you for the new barnstar, by the way—I appreciate it.

One side note: Always start out articles with an introduction, with the title of the article in bold letters. Never start off with a section, i.e. ==About Rochester Zen Center==. Also, try to limit the amount of sections you have in articles, especially when they are rather short. Most centers will seldom be more than a stub. I hope this helps out, and keep up the good work. You learn something new everyday here, which will make you a better editor. I know this from experience. try to limit the amount of red links, also. Linking author names in references without an article in the references section, imo, makes articles appear sloppy. (Mind meal (talk) 01:23, 8 March 2008 (UTC))

Cindy Cox
This is a stub, not an article. It was created this for wikipedians to add to this notable composer. Wikipedia is sorely missing pages on contemporary composers. It seems it is interested in "pop" culture rather than anything else. In general, I consider composers who receive critical acclaim in more than 2 nationaly printed papers notable. Please research and add rather than subtract. VoxNovus (talk) 11:54, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

List of Zen centers in the United States
Thanks for your support and for trying to improve the article. I've pretty much resigned myself to having it deleted. You can't win them all! (Mind meal (talk) 19:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC))

Sable Chemicals
Feel free to delete the page, it's not my loss. It will take years to have somebody create that page. Instead of nominating the page for deletion, like a good wikipedian, you could have developed it yourself. One thing you should know is that information here in Zimbabwe is scarce as gold....so what i wrote on that page is only what i could find.

I think, a good wikipedian, instead of roaming around looking for pages to delete, the good wikipedian looks around for page to IMPROVE. I hope you remember that when you nominate other pages for deletion. What is good?  DELETING  or  IMPROVING ? Samwise Gamgee 02:14, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

England, Their England
Did you intend to delete almost all of the pre-existing text from the body of the article, or was that an accident? JH (talk page) 20:48, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Chapin_Mill_June_2007.JPG
Thank you for uploading Image:Chapin_Mill_June_2007.JPG. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. Jusjih (talk) 02:20, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Planetary human habitability
How much money did they put in your paypal account to create the sockpuppets to support the deletion of this article?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Planetary_human_habitability

198.163.53.10 (talk) 20:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Nomination
Thanks for the nomination Golgo. Those were very kind words you said of me, I am flattered. I hope all is well. (Mind meal (talk) 19:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC))

A tag has been placed on Bodhin Kjolhede, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. NeilN 13:54, 21 July 2007 (UTC)