User talk:Gonzo fan2007/Archive 2016

Welcome back!
As a recently returned sysop, welcome back to the admin corps. We always need help at WP:ADMINBACKLOG if there are any areas you can help with that would be most welcomed. Happy mopping! — xaosflux  Talk 23:28, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Cheers,  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  00:30, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * There's nothing like seeing the return of an old name. Welcome back, Gonzo fan2007, welcome back. :) Acalamari 20:24, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks  It is good to be back.  I just realized a few days ago that my first edit was over 10 years ago!!  I couldn't believe it, we had just hit 1 million articles back when I started :) A lot has changed over the years (not the least of which is having only 37 !votes on your RFA)!  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  02:49, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
North America1000 20:17, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

DYK for List of Valley Metro Rail stations
The DYK project (nominate) 12:55, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

First set of logs
Here's the first set of logs from the extended trial: User:BU Rob13/Packers log

I'm going through with the importance now. ~ RobTalk 04:00, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks  Looks good so far.  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  16:15, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The bot task was approved earlier this evening. Full logs for the tagging run are there. I'll take a look at the remaining parts of the task tomorrow, since it's getting a bit late to do more tonight. By the way, feel free to edit those logs however's useful for you. I'm copy-pasting the logs in from the AWB log output, so you won't break anything by striking items, marking them as done, removing stuff, or however else you want to keep track of what you look at. ~ RobTalk 05:33, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

I moved User:BU Rob13/Packers no ref to WikiProject Green Bay Packers/Unref articles list so it's in the project's sub-pages. Since it is your user space, would you like me to leave behind the redirects, or delete them? Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @  22:12, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You can now find a list of article with no ref tags or external links with http:// or https:// at User:BU_Rob13/Packers_no_ref. There's around 180 articles there. Some may be disambiguation pages, since I didn't filter those out. Same as before, feel free to edit the list however you find most useful. ~ RobTalk 05:32, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Could you clarify whether you would want list articles to be tagged with the needs-infobox parameter? Once you answer this, I'll proceed with that tagging. 297 articles will receive that tag if list articles are included, and 280 will be tagged if not. I'm defining list articles as articles that start with the words List or Lists, for simplicity. ~ RobTalk 05:49, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks  Everything looks great!  To answer your question, please do go through with the info-box parameter.  I would leave the list articles untagged though, as they probably don't need an infobox.  Let me know if you have any questions! Thanks,  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  14:43, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Category:Green Bay Packers articles needing infoboxes is populated now. It may include some articles that don't really need infoboxes based on the criteria you specified, so you should take a look through the category at some point. ~ RobTalk 01:12, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Should be the last of the work too, I believe. I think I did everything else already. Let me know if you wanted anything else done. ~ RobTalk 01:12, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks I really appreciate your assistance with everything.  I will let you know if anything else comes up.  Thanks again!  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  17:02, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * You can delete them. ~ Rob 13 Talk 17:48, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅! Thanks, « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  18:09, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * How have things been going with checking the logs, by the way? Was there anything else you were interested in getting done? ~ Rob 13 Talk 18:50, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * It's going good. I assessed everything in, and  (over 700 articles!), so everything looks good on that end. I am now going to work on expanding the membership list, and then try to work on the maintenance categories (infobox and unref). I have a few ideas I am thinking about that I may come to you about, mostly producing logs of articles. I want to get the membership going on the project though first, so I can get some collaboration going. I will let you know if I think of anything. Nice work with the RFA, I don't think I could go through the process the way it is today...  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  20:02, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about the image request you originally asked for. What would you think about producing a list of articles that are C-class or higher without images? I think that's more useful than the original request, since stubs/starts often don't need images. We could also do start or higher, up to you. As for the RfA, I won't be giving my full thoughts until after it's over, but I regret it quite a bit. ~ Rob 13 Talk 20:24, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * That is a great idea! I would definitely support a bot run for that task, but I would change the rules. I would do any article within (and its sub-categories) and  (and its subcategories) that is rated C or higher or is rated as High or Top-Importance. Basically I would only want it applied to articles about people that are high quality or important to the project.  Let me know what you think. I wouldn't worry too much about the RFA; you had over 140 supports, and most of the opposes had nothing to do with specific actions, they just wanted you to meet arbitrary criteria (# of edits, months editing, months active, etc.).  I always thought it would be interesting to see what percentage of opposes are admins vs the percentage of supports that are admins.  I would posit that admins are much less likely to oppose a non-controversial candidate than non-admins, but who knows?  If will be fine though, the tools just make some tasks so much easier!  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  21:37, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your comment about the Green Bay Packer template. - User:RFD (Talk) 20:26, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem. I left you a message on your talk page the same time you messaged me! Your signature didn't seem to generate correctly, so I added your user info, fyi.  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  20:29, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi-There was no problems; I just wanted to tag the list about the Green Bay Packers since this is related to Wisconsin and the WikiProject Wisconsin. Again my thanks-RFD (talk) 20:31, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Thanks,  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  21:22, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

a question
hi dear administrator. good evening! i've made a second account a few days ago. i dont no if its legal to keep that? cuz i resume my activity in wiki in this days again, but im so far to learn more about the laws. however i though its legal to have a second account in wiki, but in Persian wiki, i do wrong and they punished me. its just because i don't know so much about laws and do not have enough experience in wiki about something like that. that is User:PersianGuyz my second. if its possible for you tell me if its legal or not? and if its not true to have another account, please tell me how can i close and delete those ?? .pls tell and teach me more. it will be nice of you .health n wealth Amir   Muhammad  13:17, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi per WP:SOCK I would recommend you not have two accounts.  Just chose the one you want to edit with, and stop editing from the other.  You can place Alternative user on the old account to mark it as no longer being used.  You can be easily blocked for editing with multiple accounts, so having just one is the best.  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  16:10, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * thank you so much . i added Alternative user for my second account to inform other guys as you said . tnx so much for your guidelines . Amir  Muhammad  16:28, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Wikiproject:Packers
Hey there Gonzo. I just wanted to let you know I have received your message on my talk page and I am returning to the project myself. I would be honored to rejoin the project if you all would have me. I think a great project would be to get Aaron Rodgers up to Good Article Status. I will also begin looking at articles of Packers Rookies and expanding them to DYK. Thanks for reviving the project-- Church  Talk 21:56, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Awesome! We are glad to have you Church!  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  21:58, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion???
So let me get this straight. To improve Wikipedia, I write a well-written thoroughly-researched article regarding one of the most-asked questions by sports fans searching the Internet, something that would bring millions of readers to our beloved site, backed up by hundreds of sources and consolidated from every professional sports season listed on Wikipedia (and frankly took me an entire month to research) and you think it should be deleted?

We have a Wikipedia article that lists every single sports team in the United States and Canada combining all sports within one article and seeming pointless when there are already list of every NFL team, every NHL team, etc. We have an article that lists every single game broadcast on ESPN Saturday Primetime for who knows what reason.

We even have a page that lists every tie in NFL history and you don't see any merit with an article that lists the lowest-seeded teams to pull off the greatest Cinderalla runs of all time? Are you familiar with sports (that's not meant to be an insult, just curious)? Are you the same person who suggested deleting my Kick Six article on one of the greatest football games ever played?

At the very least, I could break up the article into four smaller articles for each of the four professional sports leagues, but this article is way too relevant to delete.

--Superdupereditor (talk) 02:03, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi First and foremost, I understand your frustration, but please try to remain calm and civil in your discussions. I am going to try to explain a few things to help you better understand the issues the article have:
 * Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Please stop adding Wikipedia as a source or reference within Wikipedia articles. Please see our policy regarding this here: WP:REFLOOP.
 * List articles need to have a defined scope that isn't overly broad. Please see our guidelines on this here: WP:LISTNAME and WP:LISTCRITERIA. I could create a great, well-sourced and accurate article titled List of NBA players who have worn purple shoes in the playoffs, but the basic premise of the list is too broad and not covered as a whole by reliable sources (i.e. even though a source may state that someone wore purple shoes, there are no sources that discuss this group or list as a whole).
 * Your article is titled with the phrase North American professional sports, yet many professional sports leagues aren't include (Canadian Football League, Major League Soccer, Arena Football, to name a few).
 * Your article is too big. When it was created is was 215,000 bytes. At this point it needs to be broken up into smaller lists. See out guideline on this here WP:SPLITLIST.
 * Lastly, a simple Google search of your article title provides only one or two relevant links, none of which cover the entire scope of your article (i.e. they either talk about a specific league or arbitrarily list the worst teams to win a championship).
 * This is why I proposed deletion for this article. Let me know if you have any other questions. « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  03:27, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, to answer your question, I am familiar with sports and editing Wikipedia. Having been editing for over 10 years, becoming an admin, and writing about 300 articles (most of which are on sports topics), including some featured lists, I know a thing or two about how this place operates. Again, let me know if you have any questions.  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  04:43, 15 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Gonzo fan2007, I certainly do not question your knowledge of Wikipedia as you have risen to the status of administrator, so obviously you are well versed in the rules and regulations of this website. I simply wasn't sure of was your knowledge or interest in sports, but I am glad to hear that you do indeed care about athletic endeavors and thus might see the relevance in my article.


 * Indeed there are not many Internet searches regarding the lowest-seeded teams to win a championship in "North America," which I never claimed, but there is a great deal of interest in such a question applied specifically to the NBA, or the NHL, or the other leagues. Thus I included the answers to all such queries into one consolidated article, and perhaps that was my undoing.


 * I've never heard that Wikipedia is not a reliable source. It's kind of ironic for a Wikipedia administrator to say that his own website is unreliable. I have never cited a Wikipedia article that didn't itself have a reliable source. I do occasionally cite statements made in Wikipedia articles that have credible sources. It was especially easy in this instance because all professional sports seasons are nicely cataloged on Wikipedia.


 * I firmly believe this is an article that must exist on Wikipedia, perhaps broken into the four separate leagues. Nobody cares about NBA players who wear purple shoes, but they care about the greatest Cinderella stories in professional sports history.


 * The reason I added "North America" in the title was because it is often referred to in that manner, and it summarizes Major professional sports leagues in the United States and Canada, a Wikipedia article that illustrates that there are only four MAJOR sports leagues in this part of the world.


 * I could certainly split the article into the four different leagues. But I hate to put in all that work if it's going to be proposed for deletion by you as soon as it's posted.


 * --Superdupereditor (talk) 13:37, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Since Wikipedia can be edited by anyone and does not go through a peer review process (like a journal or news article), it is not a reliable source. It is the main reason we require sources for our articles, so that its content can be supported and backed up by actual reliable sources.  If a Wikipedia page is well-sourced and you want to cite information from it, than look in the article and copy its actual source. For example, if a statement in the article Brett Favre has a source from Pro-Football-Reference.com, and you want to cite that very same item in the article Aaron Rodgers, than copy the Pro-Football-Reference.com source into Aaron Rodgers; don't cite the Brett Favre article.  I hope that makes sense.  The main draw of Wikipedia is that anyone can edit it, but that means that we are inherently unreliable.  It is why we have policies on Verifiability and Reliable Sources.


 * I do not want to discourage you or make you unhappy, its just that as an Admin I have to help manage the content on this site based on our policies and guidelines (which have gone through years of refinement and includes the contributions of thousands of editors to develop). In order for an article to be included on Wikipedia, it has to meet a certain threshold of Notability. This is determined by certain established standards, specifically that third-party (not Wikipedia), reliable sources need to have discussed the subject of the article as a whole. I don't doubt that people would be interested in the general topic that you have written about (Cinderella stories), I just think that it is more likely that our readers would be interested in Cinderella stories within each sport and I think you would be much more successful writing shorter articles for each league (i.e. List of lowest-seeded NFL teams to win a championship, List of lowest-seeded MLB teams to win a championship, etc.) and just having a See also section listing the other league articles. I believe you would find a lot third-party, reliable sources that discuss these topics (i.e. an article that talks about both my Green Bay Packers and the Steelers having won the Super Bowl as 6-seeds). As long as these articles are sourced, I would not propose deletion for them. My recommendation, and you can take it or leave it, would be to move List of lowest-seeded teams to win a championship in North American professional sports to User:Superdupereditor/Sandbox, and then you use that content to create an article for each league as I mentioned above.  Let me know if you want to go that route. Thanks,  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  17:41, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Just chiming in with an FYI, Wikipedia has a Cinderella (sports) article which I'm sure contains many of the same teams as the article in question. Lizard  (talk) 22:40, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Gonzo fan2007, I would be willing to split the article into the four sports leagues because I think it is extremely important. Obviously Lizard  didn't read my article because the Cinderella (sports) article only contains a fraction of the cases I have enumerated.
 * Superdupereditor (talk) 21:14, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Just so you know, proposed deletion is simply a method of proposing an article for uncontroversial deletion, meaning anyone is free to remove that tag at any time if even one person (yourself, in this case) feels it should remain an article. In which case, if Gonzo fan or anyone else feels so obliged, they can then put the article up at articles for deletion, where editors can discuss whether or not the article warrants inclusion on Wikipedia. Lizard  (talk) 21:24, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

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a question
hi dear administrator. good evening again! thank you for your last reply. you are so kind to other users and you are helping them to promote themselves. i want you please to say how i can make this like a normal sound sample ? cuz it seems to be not like a normal (like this) it seems its a video and uncomfortable. Amir  Muhammad  15:26, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * and i converted that Mp3 file with an online converter to OGG., and don't know what's wrong now? Amir  Muhammad  16:45, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi unfortunately I am not very familiar with sound and video files on Wikipedia.  You may be able to find some help here though: Creation and usage of media files. Thanks,  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  19:00, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

You've got mail!
No rush, when you have a moment.  Church  Talk 01:01, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I got an notification that you sent an email but I don't see it in my inbox. Would you mind resending it?-- Church  Talk 04:31, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I will see what I can do. Unfortunately I sent it through Wikipedia's email system and didn't make a copy, so if you didn't get it than it may be lost. Ill try to send something tonight.  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  15:36, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Like I said its no rush. Just whem you have time.--- Church  Talk 15:51, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Did you get my email? « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  00:39, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Got notified of an email from you, but didn't receive anything in the inbox fyi. « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  15:56, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes I received your email today, I haven't had time to reply at the moment (Work is killing me!). I haven't responded to it so I believe Wikipedia's email system is glitched. Regards Church  Talk 18:49, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

About Aaron Rodgers
Could you please add information about his 2015 season? I won't work on the article tommorow because I will be busy working on Clinton-Dix so would you mind to do it if you can. Thanks! -- ThunderFan109  (Thunder Up!) 23:27, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Unfortunately I don't have a lot of time to edit, and Aaron Rodgers isn't on my to-do list at this time. Please feel free to edit it yourself, and remember that there is no huge rush to edit; it's better to get it right on the first go around!  Best of luck!  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  00:42, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

About Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
Since I am taking a short break until August 12, could you please look at the article and tell me what you think. Could you please help me with the citation part while I am taking a break. Just let me know how the article is. Thanks!  ThunderFan109  (Thunder Up!) 19:54, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi . Unfortunately, as I mentioned earlier, I don't have a lot of time to edit and I would like to focus on the articles that I am interested in. I gave you some feedback at the talk page of WP:GNB; after you improve the article based on those comments I would be glad to review it.  Enjoy your break.  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  16:12, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

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Haha Clinton Dix
I am deciding to take a break from that article I will allow you to work on it and fix stuff I have a article I will go on to work first before that. I just got excited I want to work on another article. But anyways Go Pack Go!  ThunderFan109  (Thunder Up!) 05:06, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi I am getting the feeling that you are not understanding what I am saying. Let me be a little clearer. I will not be editing Ha Ha Clinton-Dix anytime soon. I have my own projects that I am working on that are my priority. I am happy that you are passionate about editing, but please understand that if you ask someone to work on an article with you, and they say no, than you need to stop asking them about it. Wikipedia can be a very social site that produces good collaboration, but that only happens if both editors want to edit an article. I am not interested in collaborating on the Ha Ha Clinton-Dix article. I have given you some recommendations on how to improve it, and at this point that is all I willing to do.  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  14:21, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Am I allowed to ask someone else than since your not interested? I was saying I had another article I want to work on along HHCD. I'm out! -- ThunderFan109  (Thunder Up!) 17:36, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh and the only thing I don't understand is the part that mentions Citations. -- ThunderFan109  (Thunder Up!) 21:41, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

a long time WP:Witchhunt against me and i dont know what to do
hello dear admin. i put a complaint in admins notice board, but no one cars about that. i think User:Pahlevun is following my actions, edits and articles to delete and appears everywhere i was, after me. please help me i dont say a lie. im not liar. im a simple person. im so nervous when i saw his appear in my edits after me. please tell him to stop it. it is a WP:Witchhunt. i involve with no one but he start to involve with me again. im so nervous. for example he is after me and just following my actions here. please tell him stay out of my edits. there is alot of other users to review my works and judge, but he is after me and im undercover. i think you can see it with your stuff. i cant even list them cuz its even makes me nervous. no one believes me. i dont know what to do. Amir  Muhammad  17:42, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I am sorry but there doesn't seem like much I can do. I would recommend you listen to what everyone has said to you regarding the situation. Stay civil and try to find something else to edit. Don't edit war and use the talk page to discuss issues you are having with other editors.  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  16:32, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * roger that sir  Amir   Muhammad  19:07, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Blake Martinez
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you again for all of your help. The Wikiproject is making some great progress already.-- Church  Talk 00:43, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks Church! Nice work getting the article going! « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  15:47, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Y.A. Tittle
Copying my request to Rob. He admitted he wasn't familiar with the relevant MOS and advised I go to RMT, but I'm not sure if this is uncontroversial. Though I'm fairly certain it's not controversial enough to open an RM: Could you move Y. A. Tittle → Y.A. Tittle? I assume I'm not able to because the revision history of the latter has more than one line of revisions. But "Y.A." without the space seems to be overwhelmingly prevalent. Official website, PFHOF, NFL.com, PFR, Y.A. Tittle & Associates Insurance Services. Per MOS:INITIALS, "An initial is followed by a full stop (period) and a space unless: ...An overwhelming majority of reliable sources do otherwise for that person." Lizard (talk) 03:30, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done :) « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  15:32, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Lambeaux
Hope you don't mind, but we LSU fans will be renaming Lambeau Field for a day this Saturday. It'll be a sight to see, a college football game in Lambeau. Lizard (talk) 22:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I heard. Good luck, but remember no Lambeau Leaps or you guys will get in trouble! ;) « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  22:22, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * When we're up by 30 in the 4th I'm sure someone is gonna try it. Lizard  (talk) 00:46, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Template for discussion
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 * Commented. « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  23:06, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection

 * Noted. « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  23:06, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins
Hello,

Please note that TOTP based two-factor authentication is now available for all administrators. In light of the recent compromised accounts, you are encouraged to add this additional layer of security to your account. It may be enabled on your preferences page in the "User profile" tab under the "Basic information" section. For basic instructions on how to enable two-factor authentication, please see the developing help page for additional information. Important: Be sure to record the two-factor authentication key and the single use keys. If you lose your two factor authentication and do not have the keys, it's possible that your account will not be recoverable. Furthermore, you are encouraged to utilize a unique password and two-factor authentication for the email account associated with your Wikimedia account. This measure will assist in safeguarding your account from malicious password resets. Comments, questions, and concerns may be directed to the thread on the administrators' noticeboard. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Noted. « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  20:40, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

A new user right for New Page Patrollers
Hi.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins) .MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Noted. « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  16:23, 16 November 2016 (UTC)