User talk:Gonzo fan2007/Archive 2020

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Happy Holidays text.png Hello Gonzo fan2007: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers,  D Big X ray ᗙ Happy Holidays!  18:32, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


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 * Thanks, happy holidays to you too. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 15:02, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks. Cheers and A very -- Happy New Year! ᗙ D Big X ray ᗙ  16:14, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Hi ! Thanks for your email. Usually if the topic doesn't necessitate any level of secrecy, I like to keep Wikipedia-related communications on-wiki. Regarding your question about Datone Jones, I would be happy to help you out in reviewing the article! Could you open a second peer review at Talk:Datone Jones so that we have a central place to discuss improvements on the page? After a quick review of the article, it looks like you have a solid article that's close to WP:GA-level. Note that I already added archive links to some of the citations and cleaned up the talk page templates. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 15:02, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. The second peer review is at Peer review/Datone Jones/archive2. -- UCLAgirl623  (Whats up!) 19:53, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have completed my review and copyedit of Datone Jones. I think the article is in great shape to be nominated at WP:GAN! Nice work. Let me know if you need any other assistance. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 22:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I originally requested cleanup to the citations at Wikipedia:Cleanup (when the 2nd peer review started). I think it should be closed as ✅. -- UCLAgirl623  (Whats up!) 22:46, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , it is up to you if you would like to close it. There may be a few citation issues outstanding, but the GAN review should catch any remaining items. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 22:50, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2020
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:06, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, I appreciate the kind words! « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 15:13, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Annual readership
Question for you. I see you created WikiProject Green Bay Packers/Popular pages which I think is terrific. I agree that such a list is more useful in monitoring page views than putting "annual readership" on ever talk page. Is it possible to create such a list for Michigan Wolverines football, for example, covering every article in the master category "Michigan Wolverines football"? Such a list would be tremendously useful and may obviate my desire to add "annual readership" to many of these talk pages. Cbl62 (talk) 18:45, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I believe that it is WikiProject based, so you would need an associated WikiProject for Wolverine football. You can find a little more info here: User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages config.json. It is definitely a great tool! « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 20:10, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Rude editing
Your last revert was just rude. See diff. I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't driven away a few newb editors. -- Timeshifter (talk) 20:53, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , what was rude about it? Honestly, I don't see what I did. Because I quoted your edit summary? « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 20:58, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, I honestly haven't had many negative interactions on Wikipedia, and have welcomed hundreds of new editors, so I cordially disagree with your assessment of me. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 20:59, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

"Wikipedia:TALKPAGECLUTTER" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect TALKPAGECLUTTER. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:TALKPAGECLUTTER redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Bsherr (talk) 04:16, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Noted. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 14:17, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Willard Ryan
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Head of the household close
I made a very minor correction in your close; nothing in your rationale, which was great, but rather, the result wasn't technically a "keep" as that would've meant the Head of the household redirect remained targeted to the same target. Although the disambiguation page had already been started, and we can definitely work on improving it, adding additional links and the like, as I understand it, it's quite common for editors to draft dab pages below the redirect to assist the closer, should the RfD close as disambiguate.

Anyway, great close, but just thought I should reach out. :-)

Cheers,

--Doug Mehus T · C  14:50, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks ! « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 14:56, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Brett Favre
Hello fellow editor. I left a (somewhat long) response to your proposal to delete the listing on the list talk page. In quick summary, I am not necessarily opposed to deletion, but also fear the loss of what made Favre who he is...and that is his many accomplishments reported heavily in the media over the years. Maybe there is a way out of my concerns of notable things that have historically reported on as notable (whatever notable is supposed to mean by whatever standard is determined to be....a constantly evolving thing perhaps). Stylteralmaldo (talk) 19:36, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I will respond there to keep the discussion centralized. That said, I hope you know that the deletion proposal was not meant to be personal. I actually created the list many, many years ago, so it is actually an AFD for my own article. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 22:24, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Not taken personally. Thanks for what you do for the encyclopedia. Stylteralmaldo (talk) 14:30, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2020
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Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Willie Wood Packers.jpg
Thank you for uploading File:Willie Wood Packers.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this file on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the file description page and adding or clarifying the reason why the file qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your file is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for files used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

If it is determined that the file does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator seven days after the file was tagged in accordance with section F7 of the criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. Killiondude (talk) 21:05, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Noted and responded. « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 19:57, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Willard Ryan
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Willard Ryan you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 12:27, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Willard Ryan
The article Willard Ryan you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Willard Ryan for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 14:02, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Willard Ryan
The article Willard Ryan you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Willard Ryan for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 07:41, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Another collaboration?
Bob Mann was a good collaboration project given the Michigan/Green Bay crossover. There's actually long history of players streaming from Ann Arbor to Green Bay. Other potential crossover collaborations: Ron Kramer, Charles Woodson, Desmond Howard, Rashan Gary, Jake Ryan, Don Bracken, Harlan Huckleby, Roger Zatkoff, Merv Pregulman, Bob Nussbaumer, Walter Niemann, Bo Molenda. Let me know if any of these interest you. Cbl62 (talk) 00:34, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
 * definitely! I usually only work on bios of players who have been retired/dead for a while. I find it easier to write when "their story" is mostly complete. Bo Molenda, Ron Kramer, and Merv Pregulman would be interesting. I also would be up for trying to get Len Ford to WP:FA. « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 02:37, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Went back and took a look at Len Ford. There's a lot than can be done by way of improving it. I'll put it on my "to do" list. Cbl62 (talk) 18:47, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2020).

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WikiProject Backpacking
Please consider returning to the project. —philoserf (talk) 01:59, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry < it has been a long time since I edited backpacking related articles. Good luck tho! « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 18:34, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bob Mann (American football)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Bob Mann (American football) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 18:21, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bob Mann (American football)
The article Bob Mann (American football) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Bob Mann (American football) for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 13:20, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bob Mann (American football)
The article Bob Mann (American football) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Bob Mann (American football) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 11:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2020
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Featured list removal candidacy: List of Chinese inventions
Hello. You have participated in the this discussion. I would like to inform you that there is a second nomination. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 20:15, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Talk page layout
(If you don't mind, I prefer to discuss personal matters on user talk pages, so as not to distract others.) I often prefer to open a discussion before making an assumption about what would be a better solution. In this case, I still believe the best solution is not to include the template at all because I think it creates confusion, but I was willing to compromise, as I think we should all try to be, right? I think we just have different styles, but I will consider greater use of "bold–refine" before opening discussion. WP:BRD also says that an editor who extends to another the offer of allowing him or her to implement a change "shows deference and respect". I was trying to thank you for that, but either I failed to adequately communicate my tone, or perhaps you weren't in the mind to receive the message. I regret whichever it may be. --Bsherr (talk) 00:32, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the message. I let my frustrations with the past discussions related to WP:TPL get the best of me; my apologies for that. I will try to be more understanding of the desire to discuss edits prior to implementation. I don't have a strong opinion about the template either way, I just think since consensus was pretty strong that this is an information page, there is a little more leeway to provide examples as they pop up. I agree that your placement makes more sense than the original placement. « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 15:21, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2020). Administrator changes
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 * A request for comment closed with consensus to create a Village Pump-style page for communication with the Wikimedia Foundation.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:19, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

New Redirect tag
I was looking over some tags, and noticed that you created the "New Redirect" tag in January, what was it for? It doesn't seem to be actively used, and appears to be redundant to mw-new-redirect, which is defined by the software. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 00:39, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I actually have no idea. Probably an accident! « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 17:31, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Cool. I went ahead and deleted it, thanks for the quick response. ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 00:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem, thanks! « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 17:39, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2020
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Administrators' newsletter – July 2020
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:25, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Packers championships
What the Packers' website says shouldn't matter. According to the way "league championships' are tabulated on Wikipedia, the Packers have fifteen. The Jets article says that the Jets have won two league championships, despite both of them being in the same year. Shouldn't all the NFL team articles be consistent? The Jets, Colts, Vikings, Chiefs, and Raiders articles all include their AFL/NFL championships in the years from 1966-1969. Either this article should be changed, or the other five articles should be changed.Politician818 (talk) 14:56, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Also, the NFL should be the ones to decide how many championships the Packers have. NOT the Packers.Politician818 (talk) 15:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Also, the term is "league championships," which is different than what the Packers site means by "championship seasons." Wikipedia considers the Packers to have won two championships in 1966, as well as 1967. Therefore, the Packers have had thirteen "championship seasons" but still fifteen championships, according to Wikipedia.Politician818 (talk) 15:05, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


 * If you refuse to budge on this, then you have an obligation to try to change the other five team articles that I mentioned. There should be an official Wikipedia discussion about how to calculate championships so that all the articles are consistent.Politician818 (talk) 15:07, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . The infobox of the Green Bay Packers correctly notes that the Packers have won 13 League Championships. The text "League Championships" links to History of the National Football League championship; if you scroll down to the NFL championships by franchise section, it again shows "13" for the number of League Championships for the Packers. Back to the infobox, that section correctly breaks down the specific type of championships: 11 pre-merger and 4 Super Bowls, with two of those coming in the same year. Meaning, again, the Packers have won 13 League Championships. This is supported by numerous sources in the article and infobox.
 * Although I appreciate your interest, this has been discussed a lot before and has been consistent like this for at least the last 14 years (the amount of time I have edited on Wikipedia). If you think you have a solid point and want to gather consensus to make a change, I recommend posting your concerns at the NFL WikiProject, although I will warn you that this has been discussed many times. At this point, if you continue to make the change and remove sources that are both verifiable and reliable, I will be forced to block you. Regarding the other teams, I have absolutely no obligation to edit any article as Wikipedia is a volunteer effort. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 16:52, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I actually agree that the Packers have thirteen championships, but then the other articles should be consistent with this one. It frustrates me that people like you don't care about Wikipedia being consistent. You only care about the Packers article. I actually want the Packers, Jets, Raiders, Chiefs, Vikings, and Colts articles to all be consistent. Otherwise Wikipedia looks bad. If you care enough to edit this article, you should care enough about the other ones and let your voice be heard. There's also no need for you to be snarky.Politician818 (talk) 10:53, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I only edited this article because I was fed up with constantly having my edits on the five other articles reverted, but now you're fighting me here. It would be nice if you'd help back me up on the Vikings, Colts, Chiefs, Raiders, and Jets articles. The Packers have thirteen titles, so that means the Vikings have zero, Colts have four, Chiefs have three (including a pre-merger AFL Championship in 1962 as the Dallas Texans), Raiders have three, and Jets have one.Politician818 (talk) 11:04, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * You said that WP:V and WP:RS are the "most important." So then help me on the other five articles so that they're consistent with this one. My edits on those articles should NOT be reverted, nor should I be punished for being accurate. I'm currently being reverted and admonished by people on both sides of this issue.Politician818 (talk) 11:21, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * The Packers article gives two sources for them having thirteen championships. One is a Green Bay newspaper. The other is the Packers' own site. However, when you go to the site, it lists BOTH their NFL Championship AND Super Bowl wins under 1966 and 1967. So although the Packers have had thirteen championship SEASONS, the Packers site can be interpreted to count both 1966 and 1967 TWICE, which would give them fifteen overall championships. It's not cut and dry. People can interpret it both ways. But again, if you're going to insist the Packers have only thirteen, then you should back me up on those other articles that I'm trying to change.Politician818 (talk) 11:33, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi again . I can't stress this enough, but I have no interest in the articles you are bringing up. As I said above, if you have concerns about NFL-related articles, then you need to post your concerns at WT:NFL, where editors who are interested and experienced with these topics will be happy to provide you feedback. I would proposition though, that if you keep on getting reverted, it is because your position isn't correct. As such, I would recommend you move on to some other articles and forget about this. Believe me, Wikipedia will be just fine if you don't edit these articles. All that said, I would appreciate it if you stop editing my talk page. I will be glad to provide my two cents at WT:NFL, but continuing this discussion here will lead to nowhere. « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 17:22, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Instant Replay
Thanks for making my story "live." I wrote the entry over a year ago and it was rejected for reasons I didn't fully understand. I read the book a loooong time ago, felt it was significant and was surprised to see there was not an entry on it. I kept meaning to go back and try to figure out why it got rejected. I saw there were things in my mailbox, went in to it and found that you had published the entry. Thanks; I'm grateful for that. I've written two things for Wikipedia on wildly different subjects (Instant Replay and on the Nassau Interim Finance Authority) and would love to learn more about how the system works. Would you be willing to chat with me at ? I'd like to pick your brain on how the process operates. Many thanks. -- John Kingston — Preceding unsigned comment added by JayKay716 (talk • contribs) 20:15, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for reaching out. Regarding Instant Replay, sometimes Wikipedia isn't extremely forgiving for new editors, it can be a tough place to navigate if you aren't sure what you are doing. Your article just lacked some polish to make it more presentable.
 * I am happy to be a resource to answer questions about Wikipedia. That said, I prefer to keep Wikipedia conversations here, on the talk page, unless there is a need for privacy. « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 15:34, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2020). Administrator changes
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 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Jujutacular • Monty845 • Rettetast • Madchester

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg GB fan
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Keegan • Opabinia regalis • Premeditated Chaos

Guideline and policy news
 * There is an open request for comment to decide whether to increase the minimum duration a sanction discussion has to remain open (currently 24 hours).
 * Speedy deletion criterion T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) has been repealed following a request for comment.
 * Speedy deletion criterion X2 (pages created by the content translation tool) has been repealed following a discussion.
 * There is a proposal to restrict proposed deletion to confirmed users.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:20, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Washington Football Team
Thanks for taking care of my requests. I then went ahead and moved the User WikiProject page, and in classic bonehead way, changed "Redskins" in the title to "Football Team". Realizing my mistake, I moved the page again adding "Washington" to the title, see the edit history here. It seems this has created some double redirects, but not sure if they are causing any problems worth worrying about. I think I would need to edit the members user pages if I wanted to fix them, right? --DB1729 (talk) 17:30, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , no problem. I deleted the misnamed template and I didn't see any incoming links, so we should be good. And yes, you would have to edit user's pages to replace the wikicode and remove the redirects. Probably not worth it, but you could always just leave a message on their talk page letting them know the template has been updated. « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 17:52, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --DB1729 (talk) 17:55, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Bob Mann
Wow. You did it! Very nice work! Cbl62 (talk) 02:31, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It was a good team effort! « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 15:25, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2020). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Eddie891
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Angela • Jcw69 • Just Chilling • Philg88 • Viajero

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg SQL

Guideline and policy news
 * Following a request for comment, the minimum length for site ban discussions was increased to 72 hours, up from 24.
 * A request for comment is ongoing to determine whether paid editors must or should use the articles for creation process.
 * A request for comment is open to resolve inconsistencies between the draftification and alternative to deletion processes.

Arbitration
 * A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2020 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
 * An open request for comment asks whether active Arbitrators may serve on the Trust and Safety Case Review Committee or Ombudsman commission.

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2020). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Ajpolino • LuK3
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Jackmcbarn
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ad Orientem • Harej • Lid • Lomn • Mentoz86 • Oliver Pereira • XJaM
 * Pictogram voting rename.png →

Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment found consensus that incubation as an alternative to deletion should generally only be recommended when draftification is appropriate, namely 1) if the result of a deletion discussion is to draftify; or 2) if the article is newly created.

Technical news
 * The filter log now provides links to view diffs of deleted revisions (T261630).

Arbitration
 * The 2020 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place from September 27th to October 7th.
 * Following a request for comment, sitting Committee members may not serve on either the Ombuds Commission or the WMF Case Review Committee. The Arbitration Committee passed a motion implementing those results into their procedures.

Miscellaneous
 * The Universal Code of Conduct draft is open for community review and comment until October 6th, 2020.
 * Office actions may now be appealed to the Interim Trust & Safety Case Review Committee.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:42, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Instant Replay
Hey, saw your edit. Don't doubt you, but also couldn't find the relevant policy, if you could alert me, thanks. Caro7200 (talk) 13:34, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, Manual of Style/Layout provides a little guidance, specifically Short paragraphs and single sentences generally do not warrant their own subheading. The whole article is only 6-7 sentences, so at this point adding section headers for one or two sentences seems excessive. Now if the article is expanded (maybe a paragraph each covering the background, the plot, the reception, etc), section headers would be more warranted. Hope that makes sense. « Gonzo fan2007  <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 17:33, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, have a good day. Caro7200 (talk) 17:40, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2020).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg John M Wolfson
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Bduke • Nilfanion • Philosopher • Rspeer • Yunshui

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Ragesoss
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg TonyBallioni

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg EdJohnston • Oshwah • Yamla
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Yunshui

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Anarchyte
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Yunshui

Guideline and policy news
 * Community sanctions now authorize administrators to place under indefinite semiprotection any article on a beauty pageant, or biography of a person known as a beauty pageant contestant, which has been edited by a sockpuppet account or logged-out sockpuppet, to be logged at WP:GS/PAGEANT.

Technical news
 * Sysops will once again be able to view the deleted history of JS/CSS pages; this was restricted to interface administrators when that group was introduced.
 * Twinkle's block module now includes the ability to note the specific case when applying a discretionary sanctions block and/or template.
 * Sysops will be able to use Special:CreateLocalAccount to create a local account for a global user that is prevented from auto-creation locally (such as by a filter or range block). Administrators that are not sure if such a creation is appropriate should contact a checkuser.

Arbitration
 * The 2020 Arbitration Committee Elections process has begun. Eligible editors will be able to nominate themselves as candidates from November 8 through November 17. The voting period will run from November 23 through December 6.
 * The Anti-harassment RfC has concluded with a summary of the feedback provided.

Miscellaneous
 * A reminder that standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people. (American Politics 2 Arbitration case).

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:51, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Instant Replay Book Cover 2011 edition.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Instant Replay Book Cover 2011 edition.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 18:30, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2020). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Andrwsc • Anetode • GoldenRing • JzG • LinguistAtLarge • Nehrams2020

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Izno

Guideline and policy news
 * There is a request for comment in progress to either remove T3 (duplicated and hardcoded instances) as a speedy deletion criterion or eliminate its seven-day waiting period.

Technical news
 * Voting for proposals in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey, which determines what software the Wikimedia Foundation's Community Tech team will work on next year, will take place from 8 December through 21 December. In particular, there are sections regarding administrators and anti-harassment.

Arbitration
 * Voting in the 2020 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 7 December 2020 UTC. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:37, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Cowboys–Packers rivalry for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cowboys–Packers rivalry is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/ until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. – PeeJay 00:51, 23 December 2020 (UTC)