User talk:Gonzomuppet

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 * Can we actually discuss this on the talk page? The game was a flop and is forgotten. There are many other JP games. Alientraveller 14:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well? Alientraveller 14:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

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I have given up trying to figure out how to post to the main talk page, or to your own talk page. So here goes: I "persist" in attempting to make that particular addition to the Jurassic Park wikipedia entry because I strongly believe that Trespasser should be mentioned there. I have four reasons for that:

1. Yes, Trespasser was a financial flop, but technically it was a revolution. Moreover, the Trescom fans have managed to uncover some of the unused features of the game in their latest mod called Tres Isle.

2. Have you actually played through Trespasser? I'm sure you have not. Trust me, there is no other PC game with such an immersive atmosphere, with such exquisite sound effects. Try it out sometime and let me know what you think. More recent games such as "Far Cry 2" or "S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl" are no match for Trespasser in terms of immersion effects.

3. I think of wikipedia in terms of an encyclopedia. Therefore, it should include information about both successes and failures. You have not only deleted my paragraph on Trespasser pretending it should not be in the lead, you have also failed to include it elsewhere in that article. I'm afraid that's called bias. And how come you can make so many changes while I'm being warned not to make more than three changes in 24 hours?

4. Remember you undid my change before you suggested that we talk. Are you some kind of holder of universal truth? Why is it that your opinion on the value of Trespasser is more important that mine?

Those being said, I have no more time to waste on this issue. It was a good lesson for me on the impartiality of the information contained in wikipedia articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gonzomuppet (talk • contribs) 12:00, October 4, 2007


 * First of all, please read Talk page to learn how to use the talk pages. Secondly, you were reverted by three separate editors because of the undue weight of your contribution regarding a single video game out of many in the lead section of the franchise article.  What differs Trespasser from the rest of the games?  If you are looking to be impartial, you need to provide verifiable content that shows the significance of Trespasser, especially in comparison to the other video games of the franchise.  If you are not aware, there is an article Jurassic Park video games in which Trespasser is already mentioned.  The lead section at Jurassic Park franchise should probably link to that article, but not any specific video game, as this is about the franchise as a whole.  Hope that makes sense. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

If you were to ignore what made Trespasser different from all other JP-related games at that time in terms of graphics and audio, as well as Spielberg's direct involvement in the process, consider Richard Wyckoff's comments in his "Postmortem" at gamasutra.com:

"Trespasser’s Hammond diary actually contains lots of interesting tidbits about the early days of characters like Henry Wu (the scientist from the beginning of the first movie) and even Dennis Nedry (Wayne Knight’s character who basically caused the first disaster). The player can also check out locations on the island which imply back story which isn’t explicitly told, like Henry Wu’s house with its 80’s executive bachelor stylings, Nedry’s office with its poster for the fictional computer game series "Swords of Kandar," and Hammond’s lavish mansion. The settings and the diary itself serve to reveal much of Hammond’s motivation and personal reactions to the building of Jurassic Park, creating more of a character than exists in either the books or the movies ...the details revealed about the Jurassic Park world extend it in a way which is faithful to the originals. Although it is quite likely that the next Jurassic Park movie to be released will make Trespasser non-canon, for now it stands as the only real extension of the series published. (May 14, 1999)"

Okay, now I'm done. It was nice interacting (well, kind of) with you guys. :) Gonzomuppet 17:19, 4 October 2007 (UTC)