User talk:Gonzonoir/Archive 1

Talk:Kalalpodi
You're right, and the page should be moved. Are you familiar with the process, or would you like me to do it / help you? Giles Bennett (Talk, Contribs) 13:07, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Looking at what links to Kalapodi (Special:Whatlinkshere/Kalapodi), there were a fair few pages waiting for someone to spot the spelling mistake - only three pages links to Kalalpodi...well spotted! Giles Bennett (Talk, Contribs) 13:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Help Wanted
helpme Just looking for some guidance on whether or not an edit to a page on my watchlist is vandalism and whether I should revert it. The page is Desktop alert and a user, whose edits to the page have largely been reverted, has added what looks to me like linkspam. I'm still learning the ropes here though and would like a second opinion. Gonzonoir (talk) 12:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Most definately. Looks like linkspam to me. xenocidic (talk) 12:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help Xenocidic; I've reverted the edit. Gonzonoir (talk) 13:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Apollo
Source looks fine and I agree with your reword suggestion. thanks. --Killerofcruft (talk) 14:04, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help!
I see you made a few decent copy edits to the Croatian team page. Thanks a lot. This has been sought for a while now, and your version has truly increased the page. Thanks again. Keep it up :) Domiy (talk) 08:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nema problema :) It's a neat article, hope to see it make FA status. Gonzonoir (talk) 10:59, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Itata
Hi, Thanks for your headsup! Yes, it is a bit muddled factwise now, and I may try to do something about that in time...but not today, and maybe never. The Itata is sometimes a Very explosive issue, and this is the 3d venue in which I have tried to do some stuff on it. IT always winds up with Chileans and the US being at odds, it is still a hot topic more than 100 years later.... I guess my interest here is in the truth: Harrison's quote, like most things from that era is not on the web but is on paper in several places. It was on the web here, but alas it is not on the web anymore...and It is my favorite quote. You may find the quote in the Foreign Relations of the US, and Devine's biography of John W. Foster quoted it verbatim (both are cited in the sources section of the article). I have seen this quote in perhaps 1/2 doz published sources, however that was in 1982. My copy: I xeroxed an official copy of it that was at NARA DC, and that is where I looked for the wording when I wrote the article.

My instinct here is to just leave it all alone, because my experience shows that the more I meddle with it the worse it will get until it blows up and disapears. However, one thing that bothered me about the present article is that the arms were never offloaded from the "Robert and Minnie" to any place other than the Itata. The word in the sources and in the actual records is "transhipped", which I take to mean they pulled up alongside each other and maybe used a crane to move the several crates from one ship to the other. I have printed a copy of the article, but am none too interested in doing much with it. Feel free to add my changes to the article using your wording, If you want more help I will be willing to provide more info. John5Russell3Finley (talk) 15:55, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Croatia national team FA candidate
Thanks for your help on the page in past times. It is finally up for another FA candidate which I think meets the criteria now that the article has been largely fixed up. Please voice any of your opposing or supporting issues at the page nomination at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates. Thanks! Domiy (talk) 22:48, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Superman plot
Ah, thanks. Cool. Wildroot (talk) 15:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Adoption
Absolutely! Give me a moment and I'll create an /Adoption subpage for you. If you've been around since January, most of the early lessons should be pretty easy for you. Also please add Roux to your userpage.

I like WikiUrchin, by the way. That should probably be added to Category:Wikipedia fauna... [ roux  ] [ x ] 19:40, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Done; visit Gonzonoir/Adoption for everything you need. Please keep all the discussion over there; it'll be a useful resource for you in the future. [ roux  ] [ x ] 19:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Platter the Younger
Hi! I was adding birth & death categories (and DEFAULTSORT) to a couple of really nice bios you've put up (e.g. Lucy Mair), and have left a query on TB the younger's talk page about the dates of birth & death suggested for him. (Hopefully see you at some future Cambridge meetup!) Dsp13 (talk) 00:15, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Cheers for that - you're absolutely right about Platter's dates, and I've fixed 'em now. Thanks for the comment, too - I was a bit surprised we didn't have a Lucy Mair article already, but pleased it gave me a chance to get some article creation experience. Plus I feel more Worthy if I don't spend my whole time on here kicking around Wikiproject Comics :) Gonzonoir (talk) 10:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Checking in
Hiya-

Yeah, I've been a bit bogged down. Oh well, what can you do? I'll go over your newer stuff soon, I promise, but you receive approximately One (1) Internet for the use of 'farrago'. One of my favourite words! [ roux  ] [ x ] 17:54, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Greetings, and a sad note
Hi Gonzonoir. I'm FlyingToaster, a friend of Roux's. I'm very sorry to say that Roux has decided to leave Wikipedia for personal reasons, so he won't be participating in the Adopt-a-User program any longer. Roux wanted me to tell you that he's very sorry to have to leave and will miss his adoptees very much.

So, what does that mean for you? At this point, you can:
 * Decide to end your participation in the Adopt-a-User program
 * Find another editor to adopt you. If you're looking for someone who has specific skills and interests, I will help you locate a good match.
 * Be adopted by me. I'm volunteering to take all of Roux's adoptees, and if you choose to go this route I'll do my best to continue where he left off.  I know that Roux has a very rigorous Adoption Program, and I'm happy to follow this to the letter, doing just as he did, if it's the method you would prefer.

Please feel free to let me know what you'd like to do or ask a question by adding a comment here or to my talk page. Thank you, and most excellent editing to you.  Flying Toaster  07:47, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Going well!
Hey Gonzonoir! Just wanted to say your edits are looking great! Awesome work wikifying especially Nan Agle and Gladys Lucy Adshead. You seem to has mastered citing and stubs. Just poke me if you have any questions!  Flying Toaster  23:21, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Cheers FT! Doing all right for now thanks. And I felt positively honoured to get my first user page vandalism t'other day ^_^
 * On the adoption front, I filled out a couple of assignments over here that Roux never got round to marking during the recent upheaval - when you have a minute could you take a look at my responses on the permissions 101, editing 101, and vandalism 101 part one sections? Gonzonoir (talk) 14:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hallo urchin. Glad to see you're doing well :) // roux   editor review 14:29, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello! Yay! I was very glad to see you back. I decided to avoid song and dance to that effect over on your talk page, having seen the secret message where you asked to be allowed to return in peace, but I guess on this particular backwater of the wiki we're safe: *sings* *dances* Gonzonoir (talk) 14:34, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Awww, thanks. I hope you know that FlyingToaster and I are both quite smitten with you. I suppose I should finish writing adoption lessons at some point.. // roux   editor review 14:40, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Aw, you guys! *kvells* You gave me a great start in life :) I was thinking I might try hitting you up for one of those purty user pages you make some day. Probably ought to rack up rather more edits to justify it, though. Gonzonoir (talk) 15:04, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually I kind of owe you for taking you in and then leaving you out in the cold again. Add your name and any specifics to User:Roux/by :) // roux   editor review 15:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Grand, thank you - but please don't worry about our temporary estrangement. The stuff you had going on back then really looked like no fun. Gonzonoir (talk) 15:52, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Roux is right, I'm smitten with you in unmentionable places. And I won't be offended if you want to jump to Roux's lessons.  I'm happy to continue to help out if I can.  Maybe Roux and I can be co-adopters.  Don't worry dear, he hasn't been cheating on me, daddy was on an extended business trip with his pretty secretary.  Flying Toaster  21:04, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Was it m-m-m-my fault? As for informal coadoption, if it works for you guys, I would be honoured to be part of a freaky-deaky two-parent family. I'm about to have an experimental play with AWB - do you use it?Gonzonoir (talk) 18:49, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I actually haven't been down the AWB rabbithole (Roux, have you?) because I'm a Mac person. Granted, I can run Windows on my Mac and plan to try AWB over the holiday break, but haven't been there yet I'm afraid.  Flying Toaster  17:23, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Extreme Referencing!
Hey Gonzonoir! Both notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I templated you because I wanted more than one set of eyes here. I only really consider the fourth item a solid source; the others are more or less fluffy (especially the third, which is a blog). -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  18:12, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Nah, I'm not that much of a deletionist; AfD would be overdoing it at this stage. Just clean it up, and maybe let me know when you think it's properly cleansed; then we can discuss it. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  18:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Fairway
The redirect was exactly the way to go. It preserves, not destroys, the page history. I've reinstated it. DGG (talk) 20:34, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi - are you absolutely sure? The Fairway Markets had the longer page history, but is now just a redirect, while Fairway Market singular was created only today and had very little history. I think it should be the other way round. Gonzonoir (talk) 20:57, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes,we can reverse it. Personally, I dont think its worth the trouble--see WP:MOVE. Some people may think it matters. If you want, ask at WP:RM, I won't object. The main thing  anyway is to build up the article, because i think it will be nominated for deletion by people who do not realize the importance. DGG (talk) 21:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see Cunard requested (and Anthony Appleyard carried out) a history merge last night, so looks like all's well that ends well. I'll see if I can find some material to build it up over the weekend. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:56, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Still learning Wikipedia formatting, so excuse me if I'm not looking completely professional on this talk page! Anyways, I am helping the Fairway Market page grow. I have the correct logo with white background as a jpg. Is this the person to come to, to help me get that uploaded into the infobox? Would you want it on a server to download if you are able to help? (looks like I need help from an administrator) Thanks! Meverbeaver (talk) 14:57, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

The Trouble With Normal (book)
I actually haven't read it yet, though I bought it over Christmas. I don't want to read your article before I've read the book and taken notes on it. I've added it to my watchlist and I'll get back to it in due time.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK Problem
Hello! there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath and respond there as soon as possible.

Re Sandcastles, or maybe just mud
Hey Gonzo! Yeah, just go ahead and copy/paste things from sandbox. The move function is really only for when you want to create a redirect, and when you move a page one is created automatically (as you correctly said). So, if you tried to move from a sandbox, you'd either get an error or a pretty messed up redirect. It's true that your history is gone when you copy/paste, but it's rare to get more than one contributor working together in a sandbox, so it's not really a big deal. By the way, many congrats on getting into DYK! You are plunging into WP fast and furious, and are thus my hero. Let me know if you want me to look over an article before it goes to FA/GA as a first-run edit. :)  Flying Toaster  08:59, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Day of Reflection
hi there, appreciate the material is copied from the website largely, no issues with IP abound, but have not worked out how to sort this as yet, will carry on editing it, and hopefully will convince your good self of the validity of the content. it is relevant to the history of Northern ireland and will be making wiki teams in both North and South Ireland aware of the page.

Mny thanks, and your patience would be much appreciated —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anguslambkin (talk • contribs) 15:24, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi there: Thanks for your message. It looks like a topic about which we should have an article, but we can't accept copyrighted material under any circumstances. Material from other sources has to be available for use under the GFDL. For now, I've removed all the content replicated from the source website. You're free now to rebuild the article, with reference to the material on the other site - or if you can show it satisfies the GFDL, to restore it. Gonzonoir (talk) 15:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Will get on it, GFDL might be a bit of a stretch, but sure I can work around the copyright stuff. many thanks for your help, and for adding the page on references, and see also —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anguslambkin (talk • contribs) 15:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * You're doing some good stuff over there - thanks. I saw you mentioned on the article talk page that you're finding references a bit confusing. Want any help with that? Gonzonoir (talk) 11:04, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I think I am getting there on the references stuff, took the tutorial a bit late on, one might say, but many thanks, with any luck will get it ship shape and it can then be edited, rather than considered worthy of deletion. many thanks, and your input would of course be great on the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anguslambkin (talk • contribs) 12:30, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Great! In that case, just one tip: you should sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes ~, to help readers keep track of who said what. Gonzonoir (talk) 14:20, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Please look at Harvey Milk
I have added discussion at Talk:Harvey Milk about the need for WP:SUMMARY style and refactoring. This speaks to Legacy of Harvey Milk and its AfD. I believe that your comment on AfD that the refactoring was done too hastily and too sloppily is correct. However, I have now cleaned up the child article, have included a relevant summary in the main article section (rather than just a link), and have created the talk page thread about details. I would value your participation in any parts of this. LotLE × talk 21:26, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, just to clarify, I am not the editor who did the initial split of the article; I simply noticed it had happened, and realized the basic virtue to the idea. LotLE × talk  21:27, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi LotLE - I've contributed to the RFC. I think your general approach is good, but in this particular case it looks like the article would be better off in one piece. You did great work on the child article, though, and thanks for getting in touch. Gonzonoir (talk) 10:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Bidzar
Nope, you're right, I was intending to write a lead, but then I realized that the whole article basically might be a copyvio. I pressed save article, without thinking, and ended up removing the lead and saying in the edit that I rewrote the article lead without actually doing it. So do you know if content in another language put through Babelfish still applies to copyvios? Because I put a french web page through, and it's almost an identical copy of the article. Thanks FingersOn  Roids  22:47, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

The link is http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/4016/. I don't know, I guess babelfish did a pretty good job with this one, because the stuff that comes out is pretty readable. FingersOn  Roids  22:54, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Reza Washahi

 * Ah, I see what happened. To find out if this person was notable or not, I googled him. I accidently typed in "reza wasashi" instead of "reza washahi", so I came up with 6 search results, none having anything to do with him. I'll get rid of the WP:HOAX allegation. FingersOn  Roids  21:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi thanks for your help, he is working on minorities in Iran and this is very new and important issiue. please help me to find some place on wiki for him. he lives in UK. can you help me to put him on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Iranians#List —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eleanor.carrington (talk • contribs) 21:54, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi there - thanks for your message. I've done a bit of tidying of your addition to the List of British Iranians. As I said on your page, the best way to make sure this person finds a place on Wikipedia is to provide reliable sources that reference him. That might be newspaper or journal articles, books, and so on. If you have some of those, I can help you add them to the article. If none are added, it's not possible to establish that this person is a good candidate for an encyclopedia article, and the article will probably be deleted in five days' time. How about you let me know where we can find good references, and I can introduce you to adding them to Wikipedia? Gonzonoir (talk) 22:00, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * he worked on FPC report


 * http://se2.isn.ch/serviceengine/FileContent?serviceID=ESDP&fileid=DFD42DC4-7C04-4147-24CD-E27E4E27253B&lng=en


 * and here is his Iranian minorities human right organisation which he has founded


 * http://iranianminorityshumanright.blogspot.com/


 * Thanks. I've added the book reference to the article. You can find out how to format references yourself here. The second site, being a blog, might not meet our guidelines on reliable sources, but I've left it in the article as an external link. Gonzonoir (talk) 22:11, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * here is his appeal which published by syrian opposition party


 * http://reformsyria.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2061:imhro-un-should-hold-syria-to-account&catid=59:minority-rights&Itemid=183 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eleanor.carrington (talk • contribs) 22:20, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Got it, thanks. I am watching the article, so I'll see any links if you add them there. (You might also want to add material and rationale to the article's talk page. One last tip: on talk pages (but not article pages), you should sign your comments by typing four tildes: ~ . It helps readers to keep track. Gonzonoir (talk) 22:23, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Many thanks for all your help, what will happen to this page? can we keep him at least on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Iranians#List
 * You're welcome. The page has been nominated for deletion because an editor thinks it doesn't demonstrate notability. The debate now stays open for five days, and editors are asked to discuss whether they think the page should remain in light of our policies on notability. At the end of the period an administrator will assess the debate and decide whether there is consensus to delete the article. If the page is deleted then unfortunately the entry on List of British Iranians should be removed too. That's a list of notable British Iranians, and the grounds for deletion at the current discussion is that this person is not notable.
 * If this does happen, don't lose hope. If this organization and its founder continue to operate and garner mainstream attention, they will eventually gain enough coverage to have an article here. And I hope you've found your experience on Wikipedia so far interesting: you may want to consider contributing to WikiProject Human rights, since you obviously have a strong interest in this area. I am sure they would love to have you. Gonzonoir (talk) 11:13, 22 February 2009 (UTC)