User talk:GopherWT

Deletion Rebuttal
Response to prod of "Futurama Fan Sites": Maybe I misunderstood it when I read it, but I created this page as an attempt to make the site conform to WP:EL, specifically section 1.2 rule 3 which says "In extreme cases, a link to a web directory of fansites can replace this link." If "web directory" is not meant to apply to a wikipedia site but rather a distinct, external link site, then I guess it is my mistake. I feel this qualified as an extreme case because of the massive amount of (albeit obscure) information on the web about Futurama. There is far more information than would reasonably be added into Wikipedia. Additionally, there is no single website which encapsulates all of this information at present; different sites contain highly specialised information not available on any others, for example only "Aliens Unlimited" has the complete listings of all sightings of alien languages in Futurama, as well as the TrueType AL fonts and screenshots of the AL instances, while only TheNeutralPlanet has the transcripts for every episode of the show. While a user browsing Wikipedia looking for info on Futurama should not expect to find every trivial fact imaginable about the show here, but if a resources exist (even as fansites) that posess that information, then it should be linked to.

All that being said, only three of the sites listed below meet those criteria, and personally I felt they would have been fine on the main page, but I moved them here in an effort to conform to WP:EL, not to violate it. I moved the other links as well, and added two links: one to "Aliens Unlimited" (which actually has unique and useful information); the other was to "PEEL," which is the undesputedly the oldest and most active Futurama forum on the web, on the logic that people interested in Futurama might be pleased to discover it. In retrospect, it should probably be excluded for the same reason as fanlistings, since it has little informational value except as a source of informed people who can answer questions. 21:24, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Futurama
Sorry gopher, it is a nice idea but fan listings here just get longer and longer because everyone wants their fan site listed. WP:EL should be clearer in that it means an external web listing of fan sites, if you could find one that would be great and id be happy to see it on the futurama page. Discordance 13:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Looking at the sites youve mentioned, I think its ok for more than one of them to appear on the futurama page, WP:EL and fan sites is mostly about non-informative sites, sites with transcripts in-depth episode guides etc could be listed on the futurama page as a site for information, as for the site with alien languages thats too much into fan trivia. Wikis are different as well because they are designed to be informative. are all fine to go on the futurama page with a bit of info why they are informative rather than trivial. Or an external web directory. Discordance 13:59, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The Neutral Planet: Futurama In Words
 * `Can't get enough Futurama
 * Futurama Wiki/The Infosphere (the better of the two)

Re:Futurama
Ok, that sounds reasonable. When I submitted the response and re-read WP:EL I suspected that I might have misunderstood it's intention the first time. I don't know of any good link sites offhand; Many of the sites have links to the others, but I don't know of any with a descriptive listing offhand, just long lists of links many fansites, most of which range from redundant to useless as resources and no way of knowing which is which.

I'll concede the point and blank the Fan Sites page except for the PROD and a link to this discussion. Copied my rebuttal here and linked to it for reference by other uses. 21:24, 17 February 2006 (UTC)