User talk:Goran tek-en/talk/2017

Virginia map
Thanks again for the help! I've opened Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:United States District Courts in Virginia Map.jpg; please participate if you have an opinion about keeping or deleting the old file. Nyttend (talk) 01:13, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Hot water drill schematic
Hi -- sorry I was a bit slow to figure out what you meant at the Graphics workshop. I think I've now fixed the attribution; let me know if that's still not right. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:21, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * No it is not. Now it says that I'm the Author which is wrong, I did some editing an uploaded a New Version.
 * Your problems started already when you uploaded the file. If you used the UploadWizard on the second page you have to choose Own work or Someone else work, you choose Own Work which is wrong if I understand you correctly. You can make a test upload there to see the information, just don't go thru with all the steps and nothing will be uploaded.
 * Read this section and really the whole page on how you should act to fix this. So please remove my name as Author but it's correct to write it on the new version. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:17, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I read it; here's what I think I need to do -- tell me if this is correct. The original file was licensed under CC 4.0, so the new one is too -- correct?  When I upload it, I don't create a new version of the existing file, instead I create a new file with a different name, and say "not my own work", and then specify that it is CC 4.0.  Then I name you as the author, and in the source section I link to the original version of the file and state that you modified it.  Is that right? Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 17:28, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I has never and will never be the Author, never ever. Remove me as Author.
 * Who has created this, lets name that person AAA.
 * This person has to give you the permission to upload it under license e.a. CC-BY-SA 4.0. This permission has to be in writing and you have to send it to that email at OTRS.
 * Then in the Information box you have to put AAA as the Author and that you have permission to do this. Exactly how to write I don't know.
 * Do a test upload and on the second page click in "This file is not my own work." and you can read what they want and how to do this.
 * This can be done in the existing file. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:56, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry I'm being slow in getting this. I'm the author of the original version so I'm AAA in your scenario.  I redrew the diagram from a similar version in a paper; it's very similar but it's not an exact copy.  So given that I'm the author, I have permission for the original file.  Can you tell me (1) should your version be uploaded as a new file, or a new version of the existing file?  and (2) who should be credited as author of the new version? Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 03:57, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * If you are the Author AND Uploader your username should be in the Information box. (1) My version should be uploaded as a New version of the existing file and your text there is correct saying I edited it. (2) This New version still has you as the Author, that never changes for this particular image, no matter how many versions there is uploaded.
 * My understanding was that you were not the author, that's why I talked about permissions, if I misunderstood you I'm sorry for the confusion.
 * Another issue is: can make a very similar copy of the paper version. You should read those two pages Derivative_works and Threshold_of_originality. This subject is not easy as often there are no strict lines yes-no, often it's a matter of opinion. --Goran tek-en (talk) 10:25, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Another issue is: can make a very similar copy of the paper version. You should read those two pages Derivative_works and Threshold_of_originality. This subject is not easy as often there are no strict lines yes-no, often it's a matter of opinion. --Goran tek-en (talk) 10:25, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

I'm glad we sorted it out; I've fixed it at Commons -- let me know if it needs to be tweaked again. Re the derivative work question, the original is the same layout, which of course it has to be because of the subject, but it's not traced -- I drew it independently. So I think it's OK. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:44, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I just would like you to remove this part "This version modified by Goran tek-en -- see here" from the Author in the Information box. Because if/when someone makes a new version this is not true any more. It's correct to keep it in the file history below. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:29, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Good point; done. Let me know if there's anything else.  And thanks again for fixing the image. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 21:40, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * In the file history (when you uploaded the new version) you wrote that I had edited that version. My user name is a link there, what code did you put there to make that work?
 * I have tried with  but it doesn't work. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:56, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure it was just . Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 19:00, 27 December 2017 (UTC)✅