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Dear Roy, I need to know what is wrong with my daughter's site as well. You give no specifics, only threat of deleting it. Why? If I personally cannot edit these sites, WHO will? What needs to be done to get them fixed? Please advise. Best, rg
 * It's not that there's something "wrong" with the article about your daughter; it's just that Wikipedia has certain criteria (see WP:BIO) for including articles. If a subject meets the criteria, it is said to be notable. If the criteria is not met, then the article can and should be deleted. If it seems that the subject's notability might be debatable, it's put to a discussion, which is what is occurring with her article. (For more information on how that process works, see WP:AFD.) The discussion about your daughter's article is taking place here. Editors weigh in with their arguments for or against deleting the article, then an admin weighs everyone's comments and decides whether or not to keep the article. It's not a simple tallying of votes, however; if 10 people vote one way without persuasive arguments, 1 good argument against will still win out. I hope this explanation has helped your understanding somewhat. It's not a comment on your daughter's talents or abilities; it's only a matter of whether or not she meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. Precious Roy 01:36, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Precious Roy, I have contacted administration at Wiki in regards to this problem. Please do NOT put any changes back on this page that you have created on your own, specifically "religious" affiliation. This site is not for religious affiliation, but for him as an artist. I would appreciate it if you wait until I exchange communication with Wiki administration, rather than continue to do this. You are a volunteer, are you not? My son died a year ago, and I do not like the stress this is causing. Please do not make changes to this site anymore. I did not know of the conflict of interest as you stated. Anyway, I have contacted Wiki adminstration to handle any further problems. Please let me sort this out with them as I am sure they will guide me through the necessary steps to get the page correct, and then we can leave it alone. Thank you, Best regards, rose goss


 * I'm sorry if including those facts on the page bothers you; I have no interest in causing you stress. Please, however, read WP:OWN and WP:COI, two Wikipedia guidelines of particular relevance here. As I mentioned before, any changes you wish to make to the article should be discussed on the article's talk page first, due to your conflict of interest, which exists whether or not you were previously familiar with the policy. I am only trying to make Wikipedia as good a resource as possible; the information I have added is factual, and backed up with proper references. If the situation is truly causing you stress, I recommend that you let the Wikipedia administrators you've been in contact with handle it. Precious Roy (talk) 10:27, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Dear Roy, thank you. I am waiting for someone to contact me, as I've written to them about this. As I stated, I do not wish to have the reference to my son's religious beliefs. His patrons were not in fact all Scientologists. If he were alive he would be very distressed to see something written about him like that. I really don't understand "what" exactly needs to be done to make the page correct and without bias, etc. Do I need to get someone else, who is not related, to fix the page? I really need help, is what I am saying. I have only edited when I saw that things were not correct or needed additional information. I too want Wiki to be a good resource, I think it is a great thing. I will do my best to get this sorted out. Thanks, rose goss
 * It doesn't say that all of his patrons were Scientologists; it merely points out that his strongest/most visible supporters are. There is no bias, and there is no negative implication. His art is obviously excellent and I'm sure that an art lover of any faith could see his talent. I know if I had the money, I would surely pick up one of the prints that are sold on the website (or even, while I'm imagining I have extra money, an original painting). Frequently, articles on Wikipedia include mention of the subject's religious beliefs, whether they are outspoken proponents or not. Precious Roy 01:36, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

First may I offer my condolences for your terrible loss. As your son is notable (in wikipedia terms), there is an article, and we want to make that objective, reliable and using publicly available sources. If you have any further reliable sources, such as newspaper articles, you might like to post them on the article talk page: go to the article, and click "discussion", post at the bottom of the page. Create a link by posting a square bracket round the URL, like. I am posting some guidelines at the top of the page for your use. You may like to edit some other articles, to get your hand in. Tyrenius (talk) 01:44, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

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