User talk:Gotha31

July 2024
Hello, I'm Theroadislong. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 07:49, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I will add a reference to the edit then. Many thanks. Gotha31 (talk) 07:54, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello!
 * While I cannot find out how to add a reference in the info box itself, the information about the disputed headship of the Imperial family is widely publicised and available for all. Even the Russian version of the same page lists two possible claimants as head of the family. Hence it is a factual error to list only one on the English page.
 * This is the relevant announcement from the Romanov Family Association that includes all 8 remaining male descendants of the family that dispute Maria Valadimirovna’s claim based on the Pauline Laws of the Russian Empire: http://romanovfamily.org/de.html
 * It also might be worth editing the subsection of the page regarding family branches (currently very few references there) to reflect this dispute. Gotha31 (talk) 12:25, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No... Wikipedia requires independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 12:29, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The very Wikipedia page in question lists 3 claimants on the pretenders section. As such the box misrepresents not just facts, but the context of the page itself. Gotha31 (talk) 13:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

I removed the pretenders section. Theroadislong (talk) 14:16, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * The pretenders sections nonetheless is accurate, as are the references for them? What is the undisputed claim reference for Maria Vladimirovna? Does the page have references on this? Gotha31 (talk) 14:32, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Additionally I have added the reference from unofficial royalty on Prince Alexis succeeding in the claim of his father Prince Andrew Romanoff (https://www.unofficialroyalty.com/prince-alexis-romanoff/)
 * Furthermore, the following link from Paul Gilbert’s website (https://tsarnicholas.org/2021/11/29/obituary-prince-andrew-andreevich-romanoff-1923-2021/#:~:text=On%2028th%20November%2C%20the%20head,January%201923%20in%20London%2C%20England.) further states the claim of Andrew Romanoff and his son, which is also mentioned in his obituary by the Telegraph (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2022/01/17/prince-andrew-romanoff-grandnephew-russias-last-czar-became/)
 * As such, editing him out is at best misleading and conveys inaccurate information. Gotha31 (talk) 14:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)