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Shraddha Kapoor's age
Hello! Add the code in Shraddha Kapoor's information template where it shows age. Greatly influenced (talk) 05:07, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Greatly influenced (talk) 05:07, 26 June 2022 (UTC), ✅. Grabup (talk) 05:21, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Just want to check what's wrong in the update- Diwaker 2402:8100:25CA:91C2:80DA:8F3D:17FA:E11A (talk) 14:24, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

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 * @Arbitrarily0, The pending changes user right has expired. Can I get that user right again? Grabup (talk) 08:42, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey! Granted for six months.  Arbitrarily0   ( talk ) 02:13, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Ezhava page extended confirmed edit req
Hi, can you please add the edit request in Ezhava page ?

edit request link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ezhava 2606:69C0:5120:310D:E9AB:729F:EF09:84FF (talk) 14:40, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * ❌, 2606:69C0:5120:310D:E9AB:729F:EF09:84FF (talk), Please provide reliable sources with your requested changes there. Grabup (talk) 17:47, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

I have added the reliable sources and changes in the talk page noow, also there exists a page called Thiyyar Regiment, if go inside you can find that it is formed by thiyya caste people.In the leading para, you can see ezhava in malabar are called as thiyya.

Required change with sources are :

Add this in the second para of leading section:

Britishers also formed the Thiyyar Regiment in Malabar during the colonial rule. There were lesser known Thiyya regiments and Thiyyar Pattalam formed by the French and British governments in Mahe and Thalassery. The British deployed the unit in various military operations.


 * ✅, I have added it but can be removed by someone if it is not relevant to the article. Grabup (talk) 02:18, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * @Arbitrarily0, Can I get this again? Grabup (talk) 12:47, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello Grabup. You have made very few contributions in 2024, so the right is no longer necessary.  Arbitrarily0   ( talk ) 23:05, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Arbitrarily0, Hey, Can I get this permission now with Autopatrolled rights, as I am creating film related articles which are pending for review. Grabup (talk) 15:50, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello there! Please make your request at WP:PERM; it would be good for someone else to evaluate your contributions and determine whether these permissions are justified.  Arbitrarily0   ( talk ) 02:21, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * @DreamRimmer, Review Draft:Arimapatti Sakthivel. Grabup (talk) 11:48, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * @Jeff G., Can’t I add poster of a film? Is it not under fair use policy? Grabup (talk) 07:03, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Only if it is not too large. is programmed to "Request reduction. See WP:IMAGERES for details." concerning Fair Use images. 1,440 × 1,800 pixels (totaling 2,592,000 pixels) was 24.92 times too large.  was able to "Reduce size of non-free image" to 282 × 353 pixels (totaling 99,546 pixels). Please keep your Fair Use images under 100,000 pixels (0.1 MP).   — Jeff G. ツ 07:16, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, got you. Grabup (talk) 07:17, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Jeff G., Just want to know is this ok? File:Arimapatti Sakthivel Poster 2024.jpg. Grabup (talk) 12:14, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The size would be ok, if IMDb didn't cut off the left and right sides on https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31513485/ for some strange reason (perhaps they think all film posters should be portrait?). Please see the much wider landscape full poster here.  — Jeff G. ツ 13:55, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * @Spinster300, check and approve Draft:Arimapatti Sakthivel and Draft:Lantrani. Grabup (talk) 12:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Dear Grabup, thank you for notifying me about your other drafts, and I will take a look at them as and when my time permits. They will be judged on the merit of their prose and sources, and won't be automatically "approved". Kind regards, Spinster300 (talk) 12:51, 26 March 2024 (UTC).

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Speedy Deletion
Hi, Grabup, have seen your tag on Mikki Koomar, to be speedy deleted.

Please I want to know if the subject fails WP:GNG? Or because it was re-created.

please don't be angry, I'm here to learn.

Usimite (talk) 08:03, 20 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Usimite, All of the cited sources are SPONSORED, I also have a question. Why are you promoting this person? As you created the article with majorly SPONSORED articles cited.
 * Sponsored articles are totally unreliable to cite. The subject totally fails WP:GNG as there are no reliable independent sources mentiones anything about the subject!
 * Read WP:SPONSORED. Grabup (talk) 08:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the quick response.
 * I wanted to know the reason. I'm not promoting the subject, to be honest I never knew those sources were sponsored articles.
 * Thank you once again.
 * Usimite (talk) 08:11, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Usimite, You are welcome, you can see here, the list of sites which publishes sponsored articles. Grabup (talk) 08:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Please do you have any link to sites that publishes reliable sources articles.
 * Am sorry for disturbing you.
 * Usimite (talk) 08:28, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Usimite, the sources you cited were considered as generally reliable if there is no indication of the article to be a sponsored article. For example, Hindustan Times is considered as generally reliable source but the article you cited from Hindustan Times is clearly mentioned at the end that the article is Sponsored. Grabup (talk) 08:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

April 2024
Hello Grabup. Thanks for patrolling new pages – it's a very important task! I'm just letting you know, however, that there is consensus that we shouldn't tag pages as lacking context (CSD A1) and/or content (CSD A3) moments after they are created, as you did at Flumish dialect. It's usually best to wait at least 10–15 minutes for more content to be added if the page is very short, and the articles should not be marked as patrolled. Tagging such pages in a very short space of time may drive away well-meaning contributors, which is not good for Wikipedia. Attack pages (G10), patent nonsense (G1), copyright violations (G12) and pure vandalism/blatant hoaxes (G3) should of course still be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 14:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the information. Grabup (talk) 14:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Jishnu (Actor)
Just a heads up. If you are changing your vote, you may want to strike the previous one. I know closers do a good job of checking but if they are in a rush they may mistake your keep vote as still supporting the page. Cheers! CNMall41 (talk) 19:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Done. Grabup (talk) 02:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Nahit
While looking through CAT:CSD today, I very recently declined your g6 nomination of Nahit as it was already a disambiguation page (albeit a pretty tenuous one at that, with only two items). If your draft Draft:Nahit gets accepted, I'd suggest that it should be published at a different title (eg Nahit, West Bengal or Nahit, India) and then have that be listed as a third item on the dab. Duckmather (talk) 23:07, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Work
Good articles. If there is only one entry, you don't need to use plainlist, it will make editing easier. DareshMohan (talk) 23:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Sure, will keep in mind. ✌🏻 Grabup (talk) 03:20, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Draft:Stefaniia Shabatura
Hello Grabup. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Draft:Stefaniia Shabatura, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not an unambiguous copyright infringement, or there is other content to save. If I missed something please let me know, but I'm seeing almost no actual matches with the URL you provided (before or after the user changed some of the text). Thank you. Primefac (talk) 07:05, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @Primefac, At the time I tagged it for CSD, I found some similarities, like the Draft first line was saying "Stefaniia Shabatura was born on November 5, 1938, in the village of Ivane-Zolote in the Ternopil region, Ukraine. Her father first served in the Polish army, but after the occupation of Western Ukraine by Soviet troops in 1939, he was drafted into the Soviet army" and the interview link mentioned"I was born on November 5, 1938. Those were difficult times for Ukraine. My father served then in the Polish army, because we were under Poland. And then Ukraine had its short-living chance. All of it ended very soon: the Soviet troops invaded these lands and occupying Western Ukraine they told that they came to liberate us from Poland. Then my dad again went to serve in the Army, but this time it was Soviet Army,",
 * Also, the article was looking like it was copy and pasted from somewhere else which led me to tag this article for G12, as there are these unused citation styles found at the article " he came here and went with us.'[2]", " So I got my education.'[1]",
 * After digging more into it, I found this in Ukrainian language, If you translate it and see, It is the shorter version of the Artist and camp section of the article.
 * Conclusion is, It is not total copy paste but there are some portions which are looking like copy past. I think is ok to keep it. Grabup (talk) 07:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation. I will give it another look. Primefac (talk) 08:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Tixel (company)
Hi @Grabup,

Thanks for reviewing the recent article submission. I have resubmitted the page "Draft:Tixel (company)" and made the following improvements based on your recent comment: "More independent, reliable sources needed with in-depth coverage of the subject."


 * Added more in-depth information, including awards won by the company and an Infobox Company template.
 * Included additional reputable citations, such as an Australian government agency's website and The Australian (owned by News Corp Australia).

Upon creating the page, it may encourage more Wikipedia users to contribute, enriching the article and making it more diverse and comprehensive. Bracedluthier (talk) 23:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello
Your name came up when I was asked to review the draft for Holchoi. I see on your pages here you also participate in Articles for Deletion discussions (AfD); I'd encourage you to continue in the AfD discussions and participate in more of them. It's a good way to learn the ins and outs of Wikipedia and we're always looking for good, reliable editors to help out there. Looking forward to seeing you there! Cheers. Oaktree b (talk) 14:02, 15 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for the amazing feedback. 😊 Grab Up  -  Talk  14:03, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tunde_Skovran
Hi GrabUp! You left a suggestion on this article some time ago. The reviewers do not look at the sources. It is a film director. Most of the sources have as title the name of the film. However, every source speaks about the work of the director, award her film received and the recognition she gained. All are extremely respectable- the Guardian, Deadline, Variety and others. Also, there are sources from theaters about her career in theater and cinema as an actress. Understand many editors do not have time to actually open the sources and check, but it is a page about the film director. Demeter39G (talk) 20:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @Demeter39G, ✅, Upon review, I found that the subject fails WP:GNG due to a lack of in-depth coverage from multiple independent reliable sources. However, the subject has directed a notable film, "Who I Am Not," which makes her notable according to WP:DIRECTOR. Grab Up  -  Talk  05:43, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your assistance! Demeter39G (talk) 05:46, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Request on 07:26:04, 25 May 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Saraalutz
Saraalutz (talk) 07:26, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi Grabup! Thanks for your feedback. Can you be more specific about what edits are needed on the draft: Debbie Matthews? In what way is it not formal or sourced, etc?

Appreciate your insight.


 * The article’s subject has no in-depth coverage from multiple independent reliable sources to establish notability. Interviews can’t make her notable. Additionally, the article looks promotional to me. For example: “Throughout her career, Matthews achieved success both as an amateur and professional racer,” and “Debbie Matthews (born 1958) is a notable figure in the world of motocross.” These types of writing tones are not encyclopedic and suggest an attempt to promote her. Furthermore, the article contains unused citation tags, which look odd.  Grab Up  -  Talk  07:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

you may be interested
In the essay at WP:Should you ask a question at RfA? Valereee (talk) 10:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Got you! I just missed that part where he answered my question. 🫢 Grab Up  -  Talk  10:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Valereee: Can you please make some comments about this. Grab Up  -  Talk  10:57, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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Draft:Hinagahime
i saw you declined Draft:Hinagahime and asked why she's notable. That's fair enough. I thought she was notable as she was most likely a Yōkai. And the wife of Homutsuwake no Mikoto, even playing a small part in his story. If you have considered it, let me know if I should put it up for review again. Camillz (talk) 18:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Camillz: I don’t think she meets WP:GNG or other criteria for notability. You can submit it, and another reviewer will review it. Grab Up  -  Talk  00:02, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Alrighty I'll resubmit it and we'll see what another reviewer says. Camillz (talk) 16:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

June 2024
I've blocked you from editing WP:PERM for the next three months because your participation at Requests for permissions/New page reviewer has become disruptive and you are not listening when admins there tell you that they will not grant your request. We are grateful that you want to help with new pages patrol, but the answer is no for now and it's better that you focus on other areas. After the block expires you are free to make PERM requests again but please do try to take into account the advice that you have been given there already. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 14:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Joe Roe: Can you share their answer to my original question? I simply asked what the problems behind my decline were other than “Moving Quickly.” They did not answer my question at all. If I had received an answer, I would not have gone to the PERM. If my motive was to get NPP quickly, why would I have gone to Extraordinary for feedback? I could have gone directly to PERM (which I think I should have done). I am happy to review Drafts with AfC, but if there is no valid reason behind my decline, why am I not allowed to question it? They did not answer which WP:NPPCRITERIA I didn’t meet. Do you think they really determined my experience by my work or just relied on Extraordinary’s views at the time of declining? Who said, “The request will be seen by another admin and determine experience,” which means Extraordinary did not do a deep check at the time of his feedback. If I had received my answer, I would not have added any replies to the PERM, but they just declined because of a non-deep check by Extraordinary. Also, I went to The Night Watcher for an “independent” feedback, but Josh went there and shared Extraordinary’s view, which he can’t deny as Extraordinary is an experienced admin. What I wanted was an independent and deeper review, which I failed to get. I think I could have been given a trial as other editors are getting. Thanks for the block. Grab Up  -  Talk  14:39, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @, @, @, @, @Robertsky: Is this not an abuse of Administrator’s tools? They have not given me any valid reason behind the decline of my PERM. They are just relying on Extraordinary’s views, who recommended waiting and also said, "It's up to you when you want to make the PERM request; the reviewing admin (who won't be me) will decide at that point whether you have enough experience." I don’t have an issue with waiting, and I am happy with AfC, but if I am ready for the tool and have shown much more experience that required for NPP as per WP:NPPCRITERIA, why are they not willing to give me a trial of one month? If they don’t have time to check my work and determine my experience, they should have ignored my request, but declining based on a superficial check is not fair. They have not answered my question about which WP:NPPCRITERIA I fail to meet, and now I am blocked for questioning. If they had answered me after a thorough check and recommended specific work, I would have happily done that. Does questioning admins lead to bans on Wikipedia? If this is true, then I apologize for the questioning. Thanks. Grab Up  -  Talk  15:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Wasting time with repeated requests after being declined leads to blocks. The way to demonstrate that you're not going to disruptively waste more time isn't to ping a bunch of admins and have them waste their time as well. Not liking an answer doesn't mean ask the other parent for the permissions. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Grabup, what ScottishFinnishRadish said about asking the other parent is right. I know how perhaps desperate you're to patrol new pages but the rights are granted with care so that at the end of the day, there will be less complain about your patrolling. Staying a bit time will show your patience and acceptance to other peoples opinion; those questions about your reviewing you will still receive in your talk page. Clam down, breathe and adhere to what have been said to you. Also pinging many admins is not good at all, it rather bugs one as a human. I would advice you keep on with your content creation, AFDs, and AFC reviewing to show an experienced track record that any later reviewing admin can say "yes, you are good to go." The words you use is not encouraging and with the grat bad energy, one may be reluctant giving you the right. Admins are volunteers like you and it will be upon them when you may misuse the right. Everything is just being careful. As for now I wouldn't say anybody is angry with you but participation can show you have adhere, and in not less than two–three months, you may have the trial right. It's not easy, safe editing. Safari Scribe <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Edits! Talk! 19:39, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Making a note about Special:Diff/1227614961, as this spilled over there. -- ferret (talk) 20:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for these messages, but no one has shown me my decline reason other than “moving quickly.” I am sorry for bothering everyone. You will surely not see me here again. I have turned off every notification so, I will not see anyone’s messages and reply them, Thanks good bye. Grab Up  -  Talk  03:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I came here after seeing your AFC reviews, and found that you've been blocked from requesting permissions. First of all let me note that you are a highly productive editor who has ensured that neutrality and factual information should stay even on some of the most controversial South Asian articles. I would say you should forget about permissions for now or for a longer period. They are ultimately useless and they will never affect your editing. Ratnahastin  (talk) 09:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

BPP University profile merge
Hi @Grabup

Thanks for getting in touch. This deletion was part of a merge proposal, which I had highlighted on the Talk page on 21 March: Talk:BPP University

This is to better represent the BPP group of businesses and to create a profile for the institution which is more in line with those of other academic institutions: BPP Holdings

Would be great to hear your feedback and any suggestions.

With thanks Deputy Dean at BPP (talk) 15:47, 28 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Deputy Dean at BPP: Thanks for the message! I want to know why you are merging it when it can have a standalone article.  Grab Up  -  Talk  15:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Grabup, One Humble Request to You
Hi Grabup I would like to humbly request you that you have put a request to remove or delete the Wikipedia page of Hariballabh Narayan Singh by proving it false, but you do not know anything about that Indian Hindi writer Hariballabh Narayan Singh. According to the information received from Google / Internet Archive and more reliable sources, Hariballabh Narayan Singh is a reputed writer of Indian Hindi language who has written many books in Hindi language, he has written a commentary book on Hindi grammar named Sugam Hindi Vyakaran Evam Rachna and he has also written many books like:Shiksha Vichar Manthan etc. You should once take information from reliable sources and I humbly request you to please withdraw or cancel the request you have put to remove the Wikipedia page of Hariballabh Narayan Singh. Thank you. Archivehindu (talk) 18:23, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Draft:Esteban Klor
Hello Grabup. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Draft:Esteban Klor, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Can be easily cleaned up. Thank you. Safari Scribe <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Edits! Talk! 16:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I tagged the article because it was just copy pasted from the about page by just replacing “I” to his name or “He”. Thanks for your msg, I will leave it to you. Grab Up  -  Talk  18:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Mayank Shekhar
I do not find this critic notable. I find the page on this critic to be for promotional purpose. Opinion? RangersRus (talk) 00:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)


 * @RangersRus: I also could not see meeting WP:GNG and WP:JOURNALIST here. You can nominate the article for deletion. Grab Up  -  Talk  01:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The award “Ramnath Goenka Excellence in Journalism Awards,” which is given every year to at least 20 people, does not seem exclusive enough to me to meet WP:ANYBIO criteria, but someone could challenge this. Grab Up  -  Talk  02:02, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks!
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Khan Sir
Please convince me that this stub merits inclusion. I applaud you for editing it and accepting it as a borderline acceptance, however, I am unsure that it is on the correct side of the border 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * At the time it was submitted, there was no much sources, but I added many sources with significant coverage of the subject and after fixing all issues I accepted the article.  Grab Up  -  Talk  08:45, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The sources are interesting, certainly. I am not at all sure I would consider them to be significant coverage, though. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:47, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Sources like:
 * https://www.news18.com/viral/meet-khan-sir-everyones-favourite-online-guru-who-has-impacted-lives-of-21-million-8501401.html
 * https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-who-is-khan-sir-why-did-congress-leader-surpiya-shrinate-demand-his-arrest-3008253/amp
 * https://www.jagran.com/news/national-who-is-khan-sir-real-name-patna-khan-gs-research-centre-congress-supriya-shrinate-demand-arrest-jagran-special-23245037.html
 * Are with significant coverage of the subject and that’s why I accepted the article. Grab Up  -  Talk  08:47, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * As a courtesy to you since you have put in a lot of effort here, I am letting you know that I disagree with you sufficiently to ask the community to decide at AfD. That is something that happens to all AFC reviewers, and proves that we are doing our job of accepting borderline drafts. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure. That will be good. Grab Up  -  Talk  13:49, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree with your stance of neutrality. I remain steadfastly neutral whenever one of my acceptances is sent to AfD. Whatever the outcome of the discussion it leaves us looking professional, and also detached. I feel both of these are important. I wish the article well. Wikipedia will be improved whether is its kept, returned to Draft, or deleted. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * True, in the end, we are here to make Wikipedia better. I don’t expect questions on my work unless there is a genuine problem (and you are much more experienced than me), and I acknowledge it. We should be neutral in every aspect, whether it is in AfD or other discussions. Cheers🍻.  Grab Up  -  Talk  16:49, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I think we just differ about which side of the border this one is on. You and I are as capable of being wrong as right because we are fallible human beings. Fortunately we have a community which we serve who guide us, sometimes in very peculiar directions!
 * I think we each have the right to argue with passion where we are not in some way involved. And we both agree that this is not one of those occasions. The earth will not cease to spin on its axis whatever the outcome of the discussion.
 * I do have more experience, yes, but that does not mean that you should defer to it. I am only as good as my most recent action. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Making the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Christopher_McDonald_(booking_agent)
Hi! I made an article, it is my second article about notable profiles. Can you please give your opinion, I edited tone many times. J2009j (talk) 21:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * @J2009j: You already got opinions from four reviewers and I agree with them. Grab Up  -  Talk  01:24, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I made some edits there. I have a few option- I can edit it emphasizing his notability as producer and creator of Kelly Clarkson show. A notable show. Or maybe as an actor in significant film. I can't really understand if there are such categories. Would this work? J2009j (talk) 05:02, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

PM Count
Hi, I'm wondering whether the scope of this consensus is restricted to prime ministers only. I see this kind of 'counting' being used in other articles. Recently, I removed it from this one based on commonname and job-titles since the parameter only mentions 'office'. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:32, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * We focused on Prime Ministers at that RfC, but I believe you are right to remove these counts. Grab Up  -  Talk  14:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I've opened a new discussion at WP:INB, so that that it may expand to include other ministerial and similar job titles. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have seen it. Grab Up  -  Talk  11:20, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

RSN message
Hi! I think you should remove any link and mention of the AfD in this message. Also, "He wants to establish GNG using this source" is a false statement about me. I never said this and you should be more careful when you're referring to what other users "want". Shahid •  Talk 2 me  11:22, 21 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I said at the AfD, “GNG requires significant coverage from reliable, independent sources, and I am unable to see any.” You replied by saying, “Three awards are now reported by reliable sources (another one added just now). I can’t think of many non-notable writers/authors whose books get a full review on India’s most popular entertainment portal.” The “another one” was The Print article. If you really don’t want to establish GNG with that article, then why did you mention it when I asked about GNG requiring significant reliable, independent sources? It clearly indicates that you want to use that source to pass GNG. I linked to the AfD to let people know the background. Grab Up  -  Talk  11:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Please remove this sentence about me, both because it's false and because it's not related to the RSN. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  11:31, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * As for "I linked to the AfD to let people know the background." - I will add a note to the closer about it and let them see if it's appropriate. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  11:32, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Are you now trying to say that this article can’t pass GNG? You previously said that these articles pass GNG. Grab Up  -  Talk  11:36, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Please remove this sentence about me, both because it's false and because it's not related to the RSN. You can't talk for other users or make specific conclusions building a narrative based on their different statements. Above all, it goes against the concept of an RSN discussion. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  11:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC)