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Van Eyck's Annunciation
Ciao! I've just tried to bring Annunciation (van Eyck) to what would be the standard of language and encyclopedicity here. Maybe giving a glance to my edits would give you an idea about how to work in the future. Bye and good work. --Attilios 07:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Manual of style
Have you ever given a glance to this guideline page: WP:Manual of Style? Or POV? Once you'll be able to respect Wikipedia guidelines, we'll be able to talk again. I have nothing against religion, and the picture is admirable. Thus it needs to have a decent Wikipedia article. Bye and let me know. --Attilios 08:21, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I can't truly see from which pulpit you dare to accuse me that way, when your articles are so messy and outside any rule of Wikipedia. You are not even able to sign your messages here, and continue to speak? Look at the version now. I deleted the images simply 'cause they appared of the same size of the main image, so I wondered what was their need. Now they've found a place in a specified gallery. I think now it's reasonable, I hope. --Attilios 09:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Dear "anonymous" editor, I don't know who you are. Whatever you can think, Wikipedia has rules that one must strive to respect. This is a project with a finilaity set, not a blog you can edit at your pleasure. Of course, any addition like yours is welcome, but you must be also ready to accept when others like me try to edit them in order to put them the way she would be to be a respectable Wikipedia article. You are still missing to read any guideline page!! Of course, you'll surely won't know that, when a case like our will ensue, I will call for editors to set the matter until what is called consensus is reached about a prticular version. And, I've no doubt that my version will be the chosen one, as it complains to the rule we everybody (apart you) try to follow. Bye (frankly, I hope you'll soon learn how to deal with Wikipedia). --Attilios 11:24, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Annunciation
Hi Gradiva! Attilios has asked me to mediate about this editting matter. I hope I can be a little more gentle than he is.

I just checked out the history of the article. I noticed that when you started putting it together, you commenced with a paragrph that begins with the details of the windows and the niello floor, highlighting van Eyck's detailed treatment, and discussing how he applied these details to door hinges and discarded chopines (Most people will not have a clue what chopines are, of course.)

The style of paragraph and the fact that it refers to a number of features not in this picture, suggests that has come from another article. If this is the case, then you must put it in inverted commas and cite your source.

There is a limit to how long a quotation ought to be. If you quote something and it makes up the bulk of your article, then it's not fair dealing. You can quote to support your case, but not to create your substance.

If it is your own observation, then you cannot use expressions like "we can see".

If you use an expression like "one of the greatest" you must support it, eg, "Gombrich cites Jan van Eyck as one of the greatest painters in the history of western art."

On a lesser point, I don't think that there is any significance in the fact that the clerestorey window are round-topped. I doubt very much whether van Eyck was making any conscious distinction in style. If it were the case, then it is highly unlikely that he would move from a Gothic arcade to a Romanesque clerestorey, because it defies the process of building. There are a number of Romanesque buildings in France, Belgium and Sicily that have pointed arcades, Autun Cathedral in France being a very good example. The use of pointed arcades on columns combined with round-headed windows continued, particularly in Italy where they just used whatever shape was convenient, without the perception that round is one style and pointed is a different style. To perceive them as essentially different is a very English way of looking at it. I would delete this part. Keep the part about the pic of God and the Trinity of windows.

Can you cite your references for the article and put anything in quotation marks that ought to be in quotation marks? If you want to praise some artist or some painting to the skies, then you need to find someone that says whatever it is that you want to say. You take about four lines and you quote it properly with acknowledgement.

--Amandajm 13:47, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

A little suggestion
Hello Gradiva, I've read your first version of the article about the wonderful Jan van Eyck's Annunciation. Let me say that you spiritually allegorical exposition, although eligible for a lot of art journals, was nevertheless misleading in an unbiased Encyclopedia such Wikipedia. When you write for wikipedia you're potentially read from a various group of people, and only a part of them reckon like you. However the aim of this copyleft encyclopedia is to communicate to all of them and not to hurt anyone's feelings. As there are different levels of linguistic register, according to the communicative purpose, social context, and social status of the user, we must use a median tone. Hoping that you'll understand that my comment is only an attempt to elucidate the wiki's policy on editing, I finally give you my best wishes for a long and quiet stay within this community.--Grifomaniacs 21:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

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Palazzo Farnese
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Monument to the Soviet-Arab friendship in Aswan (Lotus Flower)
Dear Gradiva

We seem to have opposing opinions while changing the article for the Aswan Dam and the Monument of the Soviet-Arab Friendship (Lotus Flower).

The monument was commissioned by Gidroproekt which performed all the work on behalf of the Ministry of the High Dam of the Arab Republic of Egypt. Architects for the monument were Petr Pavlov and Juri Omelchenko. The sculptor who designed and performed all the bas-relief works inside the monument was Nikolay Vechkanov.

Ernt Neizvestny has neither performed the designs nor any work for the monument. He has, however, offered a few sketches for the inside decoration at the time of the tender, but these sketches have never been used.

Please don't change the articles relating to the monument.

Regards Dmitry — Preceding unsigned comment added by DmitryNV (talk • contribs) 14:37, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

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