User talk:Graham87/Archive 1

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Happy editing! Rather late, I'm afraid, so I expect you'll alrady know all the above &mdash; but better a late welcome than no welcome at all. Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 12:38, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Re: elevators
Graham - you asked about my involvement with elevators - I actually work for OTIS Elevator Company in Sydney as a software and systems engineer. In addition to taking care of the more basic day-to-day IT issues in our department, I also write and maintain software that controls the elevators. So, on the elevator topic, I guess I can speak with some authority after a little bit more than 19 years in the game. OZ_Rhett 06:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Re: Gertrude of Holland
Stop Re-directing Gertrude of Holland. BASdfjb ASOUDh ASDFhuhf IIIIII FNbjefhujNEF EUFHDiuhef —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.14.53.45 (talk • contribs) 05:18, 22 June 2005 (UTC)

Portuguese
Tnx, i will remember that one, which i've almost certainly screwed up repeatedly lately. --Jerzy·t 2005 July 5 22:43 (UTC)

Transwiki
Assuming you can move items on Wikibooks (not too new a user) you could do it, but remember that they'll probably appreciate a cleanup before you do so. - Mgm|(talk) July 8, 2005 11:08 (UTC)

Punctuation
Graham: thanks for your comments about my edits to Steven Fletcher. I have been trying to improve the quality of writing on Wikipedia so to make it easier for everyone to read. I had in mind people who are reading English as a foreign language, but your reason for using correct punctuation is a good one. On my user page I have posted a short rant about commas. I hope that you don't mind that I have included your comment on my user page to support my campaign for better punctuation. I will put a link to it at the end of this message, and I warn you that I have offered free commas to anyone who feels they don't have enough, so you will come across a block of several dozen of them. Thanks again. Regards, Kevin. Here is the link to my user page: User:Ground Zero.

I've been meaning to ask you a question, Graham. How does the speech synthesizer alert you to the presence of Wikipedia links in articles? And then how do you select them? Links seem to be an important component of Wikipedia, and I see that you use them effectively in your writing. Thanks in advance, Kevin. Ground Zero 20:56, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation. That is very interesting. You must really hate the articles in which every other word is linked. I know that I do, and I try to remove excess linking. Regards, Kevin. Ground Zero 14:22, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

My userpage
Thanks for fixing the spellling error on my userpage! Y0u (Y0ur talk page) (Y0ur contributions) 19:45, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for making the major copyedit in the article Hero of Ukraine and thanks for your support in the article's bid to become Featured. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 19:55, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Re: why I added the actual location
BTW, FYI, even though I've been to Comox countless times, I don't live in Comox, and I never have. Bearing that in mind, I applied a correction to your edit of my user page. But thanks anyway. Denelson83 21:21, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Grammar and the like

 * Dear Graham: the insights that you made on my user talk page interested me greatly. It pleases me to see someone who also has an interest in preserving our language and using optimally. I find it saddening that this can be called pedantry. Reverse snobbery and many schools' refusal to teach grammar have, I feel, severely damaged one of the key gifts in life: the ability to write fluently. It is quite astonishing that a large proportion of those who learn English as a foreign language have better grammar skills than many native speakers. I do not consider it a negative thing to want precision in language; in fact, simplifying language usually serves to make it more difficult to understand.

I agree, incidentally, about the use of contractions. I come from a rather untouched part of the country, and there, contractions are used as often as the word 'pavonine' is. Most people around here cannot pronounce nt together, and instead, if quoting a contraction, say something similar to ąt. Consequently, I do not often use them, although, sometimes, they seem weirdly necessary in speech. For some reason, there has been a schism between 'I do not need to' and 'I don't need to;' many people consider the latter to be totally decisive, and the former not. I do not see why some contractions are necessary; shouldn’t, didn’t and the like have as many syllables as their non-contracted versions, so why must they exist? -- IINAG 17:12, 16th August 2005 (UTC)


 * crossposted to User talk:Ground Zero

Ground Zero and Graham: firstly, excuse me if this makes little sense: I have just arisen. Secondly, I agree totally with what you both propose. I think that it is rather detrimental to Wikipedia that there is not much in the way of grammar discussion. As you both know, fixing spelling and grammar is a very silent job; we often just find mistakes and fix them, but this does not stop the same mistakes from being made repeatedly. It would be far more productive to discuss failings of grammar, spelling, punctuation and general style on one easily accessible page. It would be great to have our deliberations on one page, rather than on thousands of unique pages. Furthermore, I find that nearly all the errors that I correct are on pages that no one has ever tagged for copyediting. I should bet that many Wikipedians have qualms over style when they read articles, but do not wish to engage in a wasteful fight with the original article writer. I think that people would be more enthusiastic if they could refer their opinion for general debate. Templates could be added onto pages with a message like ‘some of this article’s grammatical accuracy is disputed’, with a link to the discussion on the grammar desk. The petitioner could explain why they find something wrong, and we could all give our opinions. This zone would not be solely reserved for debates about particular pages, but about grammar questions in general. (I can think of many, such as: why should there be an apostrophe s after numbers?) The discussions could help to formulate a more comprehensive style and grammar FAQ. I think that any centralised system has to be better than the current adhocracy. Sometimes, we have to be vigilantes, but it is more constructive to have consensus.

(By the way, as for the question about the adjective, I do not particularly see why split infinitives are such a crime. I think that language should be both as clear and as precise as possible; unlike the use of commas, I feel that unnaturally convoluting a sentence to ensure that there is no split infinitive does not enhance a sentence’s clarity. However, that is just my opinion.)

-- IINAG 10:29, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Graham, greetings again. I have taken the liberty of posting your comments on Village pump (proposals), where I have begun a discussion on have a grammar page. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the WikiProject on Grammar. I had searched extensively twice to find such a page, and did not find it. It does seem to be dormant though. regards, Ground Zero 15:42, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Grammar desk
There hasn't be a groundswell of support for my proposal, but then there hasn't really been any opposition, either. And no-one has told me that I can't do it. I plan to go ahead next week and start the page. Here's what I will do: Would you be willing to help me run it by helping to answer the questions? Do you have any suggestions? Cheers, Ground Zero 20:21, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Create "Wikipedia/Grammar desk" with an introduction explaining the purpose of the page, similar to those on Help desk and Reference desk.
 * 2) Post my "was a former" question to get the ball rolling.
 * 3) Create links to the page from Ask a question, Manual of style, and anywhere else that seems logical.
 * 4) Create "Wikipedia:Grammar desk/FAQs" that would start with my explanation of that/which and, with IINAG's permission, his explanation of its/it's.

Adminship
Graham: Thank you for supporting my nomination for adminship. I am honoured that you and others think highly enough of my contributions here to support the nomination. The admin powers will enable me to patrol for vandals more effectively, amongst other things. I promise to use my new powers for good, and not to inflict the retribution on my enemies that they so richly deserve, as tempting as that may be. I'll let you know when I get Grammar desk going. Thanks again, Kevin. Ground Zero 12:46, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Grammar desk
The Language and grammar desk is now open. I hope that you will help monitor it and answer questions. I have incorporated your comments about it's/its and IINAG's on the FAQ page. See you there. Ground Zero 22:01, 22 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I've updated the link to reflect its new home. Check it out! --HappyCamper 02:22, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

thanks
Graham—Thanks for your correction in the article on the Tasmanian devil. You may be interested in hearing the article on JS Bach at some stage; it was apparently put forward for promotion to featured article status some months ago, and not surprisingly, failed. It's still in a mess, but I'll be able to put more time into it over the next month.

Tony 13:07, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Muslim Brotherhood articles - formatting
Excellent work on the Muslim Brotherhood series of articles. I have a question though. Why are there line breaks about every fifty characters in the source text? This makes editing very difficult for me, as I have to arrow down line by line to edit pages, using a screen reader, as can be seen on my user page. I've just spent time removing the line breaks at History of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt (1939-1954), but the process is tedious, and I wouldn't like to do it to all the articles. Is there a reason why you have done things this way, or is there a way of removing all the redundant line breaks? Graham 09:36, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the line breaks; they're an artefact of a text editor I sometimes use. I don't know of a convenient way to remove them automatically, but I've just gone through the Muslim Brotherhood articles now, and I think I've removed all of the extra line breaks. Hope this helps. --Beroul 13:06, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Bootleg mining
Graham,

Thanks for correcting article bootleg mining.

Horrible situation in the southern united states with the hurricane.

Best regards,

Scott 13:45:40, 2005-09-05 (UTC)
 * No probs. Yes it's a horrible situation with the hurricane, my greatest sympathies to those affected by it. It's causing major problems with the oil prices over here. Graham 11:30, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Graham,

We too have just had major increases in gas prices. Looks like we the state of tennessee will have some refugies coming here, noted in the newspaper this morning showing cots in Knoxville, Tennessee. Anyway, don't want to take up much of your web page here chatting about the hurricane....laugh out loud, Take care! Keep in touch.....

Scott 12:50:28, 2005-09-06 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment
Thanks for your comment on my user page. If you're interested, you may wish to read the response on my talk page.

I'm also very interested in your visual impairment - you're the first blind web user I've ever had contact with. If you don't mind me asking, how are you able to enter in wiki markup when you're contributing to articles? And can you type, or do you just use a speech-to-text engine (as you seemed to briefly mention on your user page)? Also, were you born blind, or were you able to learn your computing skills while you still had your sight (if ever)?

Please forgive my curiosity, and I hope you are not offended by my questions.. I'm just interested to know how you deal with these issues on a largely visually-stimulating internet.  s p l i n t a x  (talk) 14:31, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Pedro Damiano
Thanks for fixing my botched spelling on the Category:Portuguese chess players category. I repeatedly spell "Portuguese" wrong, forgetting the "u". I hadn't added a births category to the article because The Oxford Companion to Chess doesn't seem certain about Damiano's birth year, but I'm comfortable with 1480 if you think that's correct. Quale 05:02, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Masters Apprentices
Hi Graham -- I'm delighted that you enjoyed the article -- thank you for letting me know. I'm sure Jim and the boys would be thrilled to know that their music is spanning the generations. If you have any comments or criticisms, please get back to me, as I would be most interested in your thoughts. I'm fascinated to learn that you use a text reader (what a boon that must be!) and would love to know how my article sounds -- as opposed to how it reads for visually typical folk like me -- and whether you have any suggestions about this subject that I can incorporate in future articles, so as to make them more listener-friendly for people using such devices. Cheers! Dunks 11:13, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

2005 South Asia earthquake
Thank you for your contribution at 2005 South Asia earthquake. Please keep it up!!!  Pradeepsomani  ( talk )

Wilburys
I never fire the first shot. Someone reverted my change without debate, just taking the attitude that they knew better than I what was worthy of inclusion, without discussing it first. I try to maintain an even keel, but I will not put up with someone who cops such an attitude, and they will get it back with both barrels. Wahkeenah 15:57, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Spellchecking
I noticed you do a lot of spelling corrections in a very short period of time on a wide range of topics.

Wow.

Please share your method on how you do that.

24.18.171.99 16:14, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Jump to navigation links
Hello, just to let you know that you can now disable "jump to" navigations links.

Go to preferences and toggle the setting "enable jump to accessibility links". It's the very last setting on the page, under the "Misc" section. Thanks, Tom- 00:44, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Energy Maneuverability theory
Thanks for your comment on my [Energy-Maneuverability_theory] page. You're right it's a stub, I put in what I was able to learn from various Boyd biographies I'd been reading but there wasn't much on the theory itself. My further searches have indicated that much of Boyd's work ended up either being classified, or copyrighted and used for commercial purposes in works that I don't have access to. I was hoping that someone who DOES have access to those materials and could write an authoritative treatise might notice the article and add to it.

Eucla Police Station
Any reason for removing? It has been an important location, if you dont mention it in the eucla entry, or nullabor - what's the story?vcxlor 10:47, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I'm one of those odd wikipedians born in the 1950's - I dont think there are many of us, so I can remember being on a Greyhound bus over twenty years ago when one of the passengers of dubious morality or otherwise if you get my gist realised that they might get apprehended for a misdemenour if they werent careful. Also there have been news reports in the last decade where people on the run have been apprehended their due to the police station. Thanks for putting it back. You're doing a great job, so I wasnt going to complain if you had had a good reason for editing it out. vcxlor 11:54, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

The PDF - hey you should link that one in to one of the entries!vcxlor 12:12, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Having done it by car, train and greyhound bus. The floating sense of the train and greyhound bus, was surreal, time passes, you look at the clock, you have travelled a significant distance but nothing seems to really change. In cars it is very different.vcxlor 12:37, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Oombulgurri, Western Australia
Hi Graham, Well I have certainly learnt more about Oombulgurri than I ever thought I would! You could probably take off the stub tag now you have fleshed it out. Cheers IanBailey 04:00, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I found the research interesting, especially the massacre. I'll take off the stub tag, since it would be hard to expand it much more without talking about events of local interest. Graham/pianoman87 talk 04:25, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Hummel
Hello, Graham. I only ran across the Hummel article today, seems a good article. Thanks for your explanation of "his perfection condemned him to oblivion" - the phrase you put on the talk page seemed fine, so I took the liberty of putting it almost verbatim back into the article. I tidied up the links a bit too while I was there. Best regards, RobertG &#9836; talk 14:43, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

About the mafia movie with the balloons
I checked around and I could not find the name of the movie where the gangsters tie balloons to a radio jamming device. I asked some of my more movie saavy friends about it, and if I get a response, I'll make sure to note the movie's title in the Toy Balloon article. Qabach talk 23 November 2005, 00:15 Pacific time

Thank you for referring me to the pages on signing and edit summaries, I will try to keep those things in mind for future edits. One thing that I don't understand, however, is how you added the "talk" button to your signature. I am probably missing something obvious. Qabach 09:42, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Concepts in science
I think you were rather hasty in passing your judgement. I was in the process of developing the page. You passed your judgment, please look at it once again and reconsider, I hope you will see some merit in it. Charlie 11:50, 27 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I perhaps tend to agree with you, however I have another idea how this list could be still accomodated with the "science" page. I am developing an article titled "Language of science". You would agree that the lexicon of science includes many words that are not common in the common language. Words for concepts, processes and phenomena of science are prominent amongst them. Charlie 07:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

User categorisation
Thanks for fixing the cats on my user page. Enochlau 13:18, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Graham/pianoman87 talk 13:20, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for fixing the catagories on my user page --  A dam1213 Talk [/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Adam1213&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new +] 13:15, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. Graham/pianoman87 talk 13:25, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Nullabor
Hi Graham, yes that paragraph needs attention, I didnt want to specifically go through the politics of greyhound and the other bus companys and all the rest, so was trying to be a bit indirect if you get my drift, it's almost a separate article the issue of inter-state bus issues, but I have no idea where to get the information from, apart from my own hazy memories. Trust you are well, and sorry I never really gave a long enough description to you those months ago about what it's like sitting in a greyhound bus going across there - I did it up to 4 times i think, I've done the train 4 times, and by car 6 or 8 I forget. The last time (excluding flying over of course) was the best for drama, my car rolled just out of caiguna, but that's a very long time ago now. Cheers and have a very good christmas. Best Wishes vcxlor 14:04, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Outdoor & Experiential Education - Thanks
Graham,

Thanks for working through so many outdoor and experiential education pages and wikifying, copyediting, etc. As a newbie I learnt a lot from looking at your edits.

Kind regards,

Jtneill 10:04, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

An OLD afd
Hello Pianoman. I noticed a long time ago you nominated List of Jewish historians for deletion. It was closed with a no consensus. Ever since then the list has been lagging around not being approved upon or even noticed. The list has slim to no contemporaries (the only list I could find even similar to it was List of Irish historians), and it is pretty much listcruft. I have attempted to reform the article but to no avail. The users who created it have long left Wikipedia. I am wondering if you are in support for renominating it for deletion on the grounds that the list is unmaintanble, has no predecessors or contemporaries (except the Irish list), and is all around listmania material. We should also mention that it COULD be created into a category. If you are in support for a renomination (I ask your permission since you were the first to nominate it) then say so and I will afd it or just put it up for deletion again yourself. Thanks. Antidote 08:37, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Should I put it up or do you want to? Antidote 08:54, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi. Yes, there has been much controversy over Jewish lists because a group of users were having problems with WP:OWN and listmania with them. I've been attempting to reform them and found myself with accusations such as those presented there which have usually been misinterpreted (sometimes purposely so) to make it seem as vandalism etc. I have asked that no other people on Wikipedia I know vote in any of my afds to resolve possible accusation of double voting. Antidote 09:39, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I just recently made Category:Jewish historians to include all the people on the list that merit being both Jewish and a historian. I have left out some unconfirms though. So now the list is pretty much totally pointless. You think it may be better if you renominate this given your inclusion in the first? Antidote 09:57, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi. I was about to tell you about the afd2 stuff. Anyway, I will post my comments soon. I can't believe List of Jewish heads of high school ever existed. I thought this listmania was crazy to begin with but it was even crazier than I thought. Antidote 10:26, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

There were also lists of Jewish Members of French, Russian, and German Science and Art Societies even though no normal lists for those societies existed. The only one that is left is List of Jewish Fellows of the Royal Society which I hotly debated, but there were users such as User:Poetlister and User:Newport who demanded it stay - though it has yet to be verified or cleaned up. Antidote 10:38, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

What's even more depressing about the List of Jewish musicians was that originally it was literally one huge list of Jewish musicians. I made it an index so it could reflect the Jewish country lists -- the only lists that need to be present. Antidote 10:55, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Please do not feed this troll Requests for comment/Antidote.Arniep 04:15, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

He's well aware. He simply sees the same corruption thats been going on with this list. Antidote 18:32, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Geography of Australia
Hi, I invite you to have a read of my comments on the Geography of Australia discussion page and have a think if you can help address this misnomer problem.211.30.84.166 17:18, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Last time not edited for a day
Working on it...give me a few... --Durin 14:01, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


 * September 15th and 16th of 2005 (adjusted for your time zone) you had no edits. --Durin 14:22, 6 January 2006 (UTC) PS: Keep in mind this does not include deleted edits, of which you have 186. I have no time stamp for them. --Durin 14:23, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Is there a reason you are not an admin? Would you like me to vet you against my admin nomination standards? Quick check; you've got around 225 reverts to your name, and are active in a number of admin appropriate areas (though not with a ton of edits to any particular admin appropriate area). Your talk page contributions relative to overall contributions are a bit lower than some RfA voters like to see, but your article contributions are immense. At 7,000 plus edits, I think you would sail through RfA pretty cleanly.
 * Also, I think it's great we have a least one person contributing in large quantities to this project who uses non-visual interfaces. I am well aware of web accessibility issues, and have worked with people who use non-visual interfaces. I think it is very important that the project keep these issues in mind, and having you onboard I think helps that. --Durin 15:38, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

The Hills
Hi Graham, just got on, and found you've been cleaning up some of the articles that I have started to do with the hills out of perth - I'm the person who never adequately explained the nullabor experience, although I now have a signature of satu suro which in indonesian is the name of the first day of the year in their calendar which is out of sync with ours, - it is aligned with the islamic calendar, and I think the next satu suro is coming up soon. Anyways, good to see you're still at it. Hope you are having a good new year! Best Wishes SatuSuro 11:30, 22 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I can see you have read my user page, will probably send some more messages soon. SatuSuro 11:50, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Just a rare friendly note
Hello Graham!

I see we both live on the edge of civilisaton. I find it interesting that you found no truth in my alterations to the violence article. Maybe one of the blind people i see in town frequenting coffee shops is you, unless you are a net junkie. If you are ever in central park, forrest chase or inside joynt venture updating your bong, there is a chance you'll hear me being an obnoxious prat.

If you like, we could talk about oombulgurri. I find it funny that many houses in town owned by a white man has a cage around it to keep out (i wonder what).

Fare thee well, On another note, I despise and yet respect serious teens like yourself. It's people like you that keep the police off our rears. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zerloch (talk • contribs) 16:21, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Accessibility of the T-34 article
Hi Graham. Thanks a lot for your advice on accessibility regarding the templates. It's rare to get a real-world picture of the subject, and valuable in the context of Wikipedia.

Would you mind taking a quick look at the article "T-34" and let me know how well it reads in Jaws? I'm trying to bring it up to featured article status. It's a long article (hope you don't find the subject too boring), but I have a few specific questions in five areas:
 * 1) Infobox at the top, common to many tank and AFV articles: does it need a title, or ID, or class attribute to indicate that it's a navbox?  Does it need a skip link?  Are its contents understandable?  Atypically, this article has a second infobox, in the "Revolutionary design" section for layout reasons—should it be at the beginning?
 * 2) Citations are in Harvard style; in parentheses.  Is it obvious what they are?
 * 3) There's a table in the section "Soviet medium tank models of WWII".  The section heading serves as its title, the table's caption as a supplementary note.  There are line breaks in some of its headings—is that bad?  Can the readability be improved?  Should it have a summary attribute?
 * 4) Near the end of "Combat history" there is a list of countries employing the T-34.  It's broken into three sections for layout reasons—bad idea?  Asterisks indicate that some countries still used the tank in the 1990s, with an explanation after the list—is this confusing?
 * 5) After the "External links" section there is a big fat navigation box titled "Soviet Armored fighting vehicles of World War II".  Confusing or not?

Hm; I hoped this would be brief but it looks like I'm asking a lot. No rush, but I would appreciate any advice. Whatever I glean I'll put into practice and add to the guidelines at Accessibility (Netoholic already summarized some of your other comments there). Thanks. —Michael Z. 2006-01-25 05:21 Z 


 * Wow, thanks for getting right on that! —Michael Z. 2006-01-25 06:06 Z 


 * Thanks again, Graham. I've responded in a bit more detail at my talk.  I've added a "summary" attribute to the infobox, reading "general, armour, armament, and mobility characteristics of the T-34"; would you check if it does anything for Jaws?  I'm turning in now, but I'll probably address the other issues tomorrow night.  —Michael Z. 2006-01-25 06:51 Z 

Hi Graham. I've made some changes for accessibility to the T-34 article, and I'd like you to give them a quick look-over when you have the time. I did not do anything to the infobox at the top yet. Still thinking about that. —Michael Z. 2006-01-26 06:35 Z 
 * 1) T-34 now has a sensible caption and summary, and I've put the notes into the last row of the table, to associate them with it.
 * 2) The list of countries at the end of T-34 is still in a table, but now I've split it up by regions and provided a caption and summary.  I think this arrangement could make it more understandable in visual browsers and others.  I may still split it up further, but this is good for now.
 * 3) In the navbox at the end of the article I de-linked all the table headers, so it doesn't try to do too many things at once.

I'm giving the three-column list of countries one more try, this time using HTML divs. My test is at user:Mzajac/sandbox2: please have a look once more. —Michael Z. 2006-01-27 22:02 Z 

hiddenStructure
Hi. You might want to put Wikipedia talk:hiddenStructure on your radar. --Adrian Buehlmann 09:54, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 * yes, I've added it to my watchlist now. I didn't realise how ugly the method actually was until I read the explanation on the main page. Graham/pianoman87 talk 10:11, 27 January 2006 (UTC)


 * It's not that ugly, if we can just figure out some specifics. In looking at a Wikipedia page source, the Common.css stylesheet seems to be loading, and so I'm unclear why your new JAWS version isn't supressing hiddenStructure. Can I ask what (if any) you've set as your skin in  Special:Preferences? -- Netoholic @ 15:46, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Replied at wikipedia talk:hiddenStructure Graham/pianoman87 talk 15:56, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Deletion_review
Hi, you might be interested in a/m un-deletion. -- User:Docu


 * The page was relisted on Articles for deletion/List of interesting or unusual place names (2nd nomination). -- User:Docu

There is a new article at Place names considered unusual which you might like to help with. Regards--A Y  Arktos 00:55, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Adminship
Hi, do you want to be an administrator? I'd be happy to nominate you. You seem like a dedicated and fair contributor, and you'd probably have no problem getting support at WP:RFA. :) Coffee 10:13, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, alright then. Good luck to you! Coffee 10:34, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Image:Richmond.jpg
Thanks for your spelling correction. I must have overlooked that for over a year. :) Monkeyman 03:25, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Fairstar
Thanks for your message. The Fairstar was certainly a very popular ship. If you haven't already been you might like to check out my Fairstar website: www.TssFairstar.com

Cheers! Stooch 22:31, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Copyright violation procedures
I saw the violation at Vestax VRX-2000 Vinyl Recorder also. I see that the content was reposted eight minutes after an admin deleted it. You placed a violation notice there, but the instructions at Copyright problems say you should also blank the page if it is a certain violation, and this one is. The website it was copied from is www.vestax.com. So I will blank the article content and leave your message in place. Thanks. --Blainster 04:36, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Modern Times
With the link, history can easily consult. -- Paul Martin 13:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC) Is there a proper way, except "requested move" ?

PS. Now, Modern Times redirect to Modern world, without considering Modern Times (film) nor Modern Times (disambiguation) !

Modern Times
Regarding your redirect of Modern Times; unfortunately, redirecting to Modern World confused things further because there was no link to Modern Times (film) (the former default Modern Times article). Furthermore, before (and after) it was moved the film article included links to a disambig page that included *other* meanings. All this was hidden after the redirect.

I've decided to make the 'naked' Modern Times page a disambig page. This will include a link to Modern World. We could include a disambig line in Modern World saying "Modern Times redirects here, please see the disambig page", but things are confusing enough already, and I'm not convinced that any one desired meaning for "Modern Times" is *far* more likely than any other.

I'm not blaming you for this, but the situation is getting messed up, and that's the best way I can see of doing it.

Fourohfour 15:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)


 * (Comment cut-and-pasted from my talk page)


 * It's getting very late here, so I'm not thinking straight - but how about having modern times redirect to modern times (disambiguation), which can mention the article modern world? We don't need admin powers for that, and that would preserve all the history in one place. I think disambiguation is the best solution in this case. Graham talk 15:06, 15 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I think it makes more sense just to have Modern Times itself holding the disambig content; I've already copied it over (the disambig was all mine in the first place, so loss of history isn't an issue), and it doesn't make sense to have a "(disambiguation)"-qualified page if the naked-name article doesn't hold the most common meaning. Otherwise I'm in agreement with you.


 * But I'm in the middle of doing this anyway... Fourohfour 15:11, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Arranging content in vertical columns
As a user of screen readers, I'd like to have your feedback on the practice of formatting content in multiple columns. For instance, some people like to put long See also sections into multiple columns, because they perceive the long list as wasting screen space. This is currently done by putting the content in table cells, which I understand is bad for accessibility. I've tried to create a new template for columned data that does it with floated divs and CSS instead. Is this an improvement in your opinion? Additionally, with the CSS-based layout, people who really don't like the columns can turn them off in their monobook.css. ;-) The original table-based templates are at Template:col-begin, and my new div- and CSS-based ones are at Template talk:Columns. — Omegatron 20:36, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Replied at Template talk:Columns

Disagreement with your editing of my submissions
I disagree with you most strongly with your decision to delete Vox Melba Mastering Labs as a 'non-notable company'. Please explain exactly who you are, and what is your position at Wkiipedia? You include links to other websites in the cylinder phonograph section. Most of these, too, are non-noteable, since they are individuals who restore cylinders for a hobby. Take "tinfoil", for example. You are clearly indicating a bias, in so far as I am concerned. Please inform me the email address of someone else at Wikipedia with whom I may lodge a formal complaint in this respect.

Likewise, Fifth Continent ownes the copyrights of Chastity, Truth and Kinopanorama and The Bounty. I am the copyright holder as the producer and director. If a member of my staff, including Mr Jeremy Sefton-Parke, writes an article the name of the author is noted.

Kindly log on to www.imdb.com and type name of the film for additional info.

Your prompt reply is required.

John Steven Lasher Fifth Contient Australia Pty Ltd. 596 Blende Street Broken Hill NSW 2880 Australia —This unsigned comment was added by Vox melba cylinders (talk • contribs) 20:55, 19 March 2006.

Header Links
In case it gets lost in the huge Talk:Main Page I put a test of h2 style headers for the main page at User:CBDunkerson/Sandbox5. If that works we should be able to get it incorporated into the main page. Let me know if this change doesn't work. If not then we'll need to try to figure out how to use '==' header notation in the new format.

I also made a similar update to the template used to put box-titles on most portals - which may make those more navigable in the future. --CBDunkerson 19:43, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

wow.
my name is graham in RL too. and for the potato summit laws you should put "you"(as in the person reading the article) as one of them. —This unsigned comment was added by Grahamr,the Gilnean Pally (talk • contribs) 07:44, 24 March 2006.

Blindness
If you are blind, do not take out people's writing. You can't even see what it looks like, fool. Could you not amend pages when you can't even see what you're doing, please? You would think a blind person would have the common sense not to amend other people's work, but no. You dabble. Idiot.
 * This unsigned and rather uncivil comment, relating to an edit to Always on My Mind, was by 195.93.21.40. Graham talk 03:50, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Cartoon physics
Thanks for removing the double link I made (for cartoon physics) on the list of unusual articles. I didn't notice it in "popular culture" and thought It hadn't been put in the list yet. Witty lama 07:27, 31 March 2006 (UTC)