User talk:Graham87/Archive 23

Kalakan
Graham87, Thank you for your message. I understand very well. Have a good day. (Ttirritt (talk) 15:36, 1 December 2012 (UTC))

Wikipedia accessibility
Hello Graham,
 * I hope you don't mind me asking, but RexxS suggested that you would be able and willing to give me some first-person feedback on Wikipedia accessibility issues and screen readers. I'm particularly interested in language-related accessibility issues.
 * On Wikipedia there seems to be very little awareness or understanding of the need for language-related semantic markup (using templates based on Template:Lang). Virtually nobody marks up foreign languages embedded in the body of English Wikipedia articles, and some users are moving large numbers of articles to titles with diacritics (and with no semantic markup for such titles).
 * I'm sure these issues must be a big barrier to using Wikipedia with a screen reader. Any comments that you can find time to provide on this subject would be most welcome. Very best wishes.  LittleBen (talk) 17:02, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Tigris–Euphrates river system
True. I probably didn't even realize that this edit was supposed to have been a tag. Widr (talk) 05:53, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Ecoleetage on Missing Wikipedians
Whether he is remembered fondly, I doubt it (and I see no such requirement), but that he was an integral part of the community cannot be denied. Drmies (talk) 18:45, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Follow-up
Hi Graham. Thanks again for explaining those importing complications. I finally brought it up on my home wiki, and the resulting guideline is here. I was hoping you might have a few spare moments to give it a quick read over and check for any inaccuracies? I'm afraid it's arranged rather haphazardly at the moment, though... Osiris (talk) 06:23, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the extra info! Hopefully this means cleaner page histories now. Osiris (talk) 02:15, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Jagiellon dynasty
What are your sources? Xx236 (talk) 07:23, 7 December 2012 (UTC) You have renamed it.Xx236 (talk) 07:30, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Maria Montessori
Hello Graham!

Thank you for correcting me and I do apologize if I offended you or muddied up your page, I was just trying to do an assignment for class :) Brittneyjpalmer (talk) 21:47, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Housing edits
Hi Graham,

I recognize your concern that my additions are focused on one country. However, in the Blindness and Deafness articles, you have left the U.S. definition of blindness to stand, as well as the number and percentage of blind persons in the U.S., the U.S. Department of Education's policies regarding deaf children, and the U.S. EPA's noise standards to prevent hearing loss. I am not sure how my additions are different.

Also, I wonder if this issue would not be solved naturally when other users start adding housing information for other countries. Keeping the topic could encourage others to add to it.

More importantly, I would welcome your suggestions on re-writing so that the housing information is included. I believe that this is important information, not only to people in the U.S. so that they can exercise these rights, but perhaps also to people in countries that don't have these rights who might be interested in petitioning their governments to obtain them.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FairHousing (talk • contribs) 15:53, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Plural in heading title
Hi, Graham ! Regarding this edit, WP:MSH says "The provisions in Article titles (above) generally apply to section headings" and Article titles (above) says:  "The title of an article should be based on the Article titles policy". At WP:SINGULAR, the article titles policy says: "Article titles are generally singular in form". So, based on all of that, I always use singular headings. Could you doublecheck that edit on that basis? Best regards, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 15:16, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Sandy, I didn't think of that before making my edit. I just thought that the heading title souhnded wrong because that section talks about a group of people, of which there is more than one, kinda like the other heading titles in that article ( "Difficulties in relationships", "Gender aspects", and most notably "Autistic adults"). A singular heading title there still sounds a little odd to me, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Graham 87  15:43, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see your reasoning-- sounds good enough to me! Best, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 15:46, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki date bug
Thank you for the heads up. I do appreciate it, but could I ask that you use someone else? Thanks. —Lowellian (reply) 17:05, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

No bother. Good deal, and thanks for your work. :) —Lowellian (reply) 03:48, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

User Recovery error
Sorry, i was trying to figure out what the template was, and used it on my talk page as a test, then forgot about it. its removed. I now understand what its for. I dont want to be an admin at this time, or even play one on tv.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:21, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Sub-headings at FAC pages
Hi, Graham; would you have a moment to look at Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates? Happy holidays, and best regards, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 20:21, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I've replied there. Graham 87 06:56, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Baku
A interesting wrinkle from when you imported an edit into Baku today. In the one minute when Baku was in the MediaWiki namespace, "fixed" all the now double-redirects, pointing them to MediaWiki talk:Baky. Of course this page disappeared almost immediately, leaving a redirect to a deleted page. Later, helpfully came along and flagged all of these redirects for deletion! See the history of Baki Sahari for an example. I think it's amusing more than anything and I've fixed all the redirects, but I thought I'd bring it to your attention. Best, Mackensen (talk) 00:19, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Season's tidings!
To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank) and Happy New Year! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 20:59, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi Graham87,

Just a note to thank you for keeping an eye on wp:MW. It is people like you who make wikipedia a worthwhile endeavor for me. Season greetings. Ottawahitech (talk) 07:11, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

PROUT tags
Hi, Graham. Thanks for your input on the PROUT article. Regarding the tags, I am somewhat confused. As you know, the tags pertain to an old and rather shabby article that was put up on Wikipedia many years ago. I can understand why we would leave a tag from the Politics portal in place, even though that tag is certainly outdated. Though I have not done it, I believe I may request that the new article be reviewed and the tag reevaluated. But what is the use of prominently displaying a 'nominated for deletion' tag from 2007? If I were to nominate a model page for deletion, would that page need to carry my tag at the top of it forever? It seems to me that once a nomination for deletion fails, any associated tag should be removed (or, at the very least, eventually archived, as I did). Over this last month, the PROUT article was totally rewritten and vastly expanded. As a result, the PROUT page no longer looks anything like the page that was actually nominated for deletion. So, the 'nominated for deletion' tag might have made sense five years ago. It might even have made sense just 2 months ago. Today, however, it is entirely misleading. --Abhidevananda (talk) 01:03, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Tuluproductions
I blocked because there is indeed a connection between an entity of that name and Mr. Elgin. (see here, in text under video). Daniel Case (talk) 06:02, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Abhidevananda (talk) 06:43, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Abhidevananda (talk) 09:44, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Abhidevananda (talk) 16:46, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

January 2013
Hello, I'm Epeefleche. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Murdoch University, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Fails wp:v, has been tagged since 2008 -- please do not restore without a proper ref Epeefleche (talk) 14:18, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * In regards to Epee blanking sections of text which are easily source-able, I think, Graham, that the rule you're looking for is WP:PRESERVE. This has been raised with Epee before on the talk page of another article where he removed content that was found through google in under a minute, on his talkpage, and at ANI.
 * In amongst the fawning at ANI noted in the last you will see that the general feeling is that Epee is a hero of the people and that it's my burden to wikistalk him and source all the content that he removes, because WP:PRESERVE and WP:CHALLENGE can be read selectively. Clearly, I just wasn't quick enough in this particular instance. So, mea culpa. &tilde;danjel [ talk &#124; contribs ] 15:27, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Then again, just looked at his latest "contributions".. It's going to take me a while. &tilde;danjel [ talk &#124; contribs ] 16:08, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

This is continuing...
This is a continuing behaviour on the part of Epeefleche (diff, and the corresponding edit restoring the easily googled information diff). I wonder what your perspective is on approaching this? ANI clearly doesn't work. &tilde;danjel [ talk &#124; contribs ] 02:30, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep, probably has to be the go as ANI is essentially useless. I've just found another instance as well, at Mohammad Ali (actor), but I'm having issues with WP:BIAS and finding decent sourcces. He does seem to target articles on subjects that are in non-English speaking countries a lot... &tilde;danjel [ talk &#124; contribs ] 03:39, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

RFC/U started
I actually think that there will be a pile on of people saying that Epee is a hero of the people and that he'll score some barnstars for his dedication to the ideals of the proletariat, but...

I've started the RFC/U at WP:Requests_for_comment/Epeefleche. If you're happy to certify, I'd appreciate your doing so. Cheers. &tilde;danjel [ talk &#124; contribs ] 05:32, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit your page
Hi. I reverted a messy edit, someone confused your user page for a talk page. While I was in there, I did a little tweak on the layout. Just revert if you prefer it the other way. Best wishes for the new year, Graham. Slight Smile  00:05, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Eucla
Hello I have changed the Eucla to a media cite as you stated but apparently the record was 48.2 as seen on the WA Observations page of BOM. But that has not been posted yet to the BOM official daily records, are weatherzone cites even allowed or does it need to be BOM? SuperDuy —Preceding undated comment added 21:33, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Moved from my user page. Graham 87 00:20, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok I have noticed they have updated it to 48.2 on the Eucla daily observations for January 2013, just not sure if that is official or not. Guess wait until it is on the monthly averages chart? Same goes for Hobart I guess who also broke the record today? SuperDuy (talk) 06:23, 4 January 2013 (UTC)SuperDuy
 * No, that would be the complete data set being read by the servers at the BoM. It takes a few weeks to a few months for it to be ruled as a new record or not (needs to be investigated). If it is a new record, there should be a statement released by the BoM and/or added to the climate history page for the site. Bidgee (talk) 06:43, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Thanks, Bidgee! Graham 87 10:59, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Deleted edit
Hi Graham87,

Awhile ago I got into the habit of recording my edit counts daily. This morning I noticed that my deleted edit count jumped by one edit, and I was very surprised to find out that the deleted edit was a notice I left on an admin’s talk page.

This is a new one for me – do admin’s regularly permanent-delete messages left on their talk pages by editors?

I hope you don’t mind me asking you this question – I did not want to post it in a more public forum. Ottawahitech (talk) 14:59, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Representation of pronunciations
I'm involved in an interesting discussion, off wiki, about pronunciation of place names and IPA representation of them. Though this is primarily in relations to sat-navs, it also as accessibility implications, as I'm sure you realise.

Our article Reading, Berkshire starts "Reading (i/ˈrɛdɪŋ/ red-ing) is a large town". I'm curious how that sounds in your assistive software; could I trouble your for an audio recording of it, please? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:25, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I can't figure out how to do that with Audacity 2.0 and the stereo mix device under Windows 7, but it sounds like this: "Reading [as in the pronunciation of the verb], link graphic listen, link i, link slash, link?, link r, link?, link?, link d, link?, link?, link slash, link red ing". JAWS says "link" to indicate where there's a link, and the question marks are where it doesn't recognise an IPA symbol. It's nowhere near as bad as it sounds, because screen reader users can just skim-read the text. There is also a way to set up JAWS to recognise IPA symbols. Graham 87 04:35, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That's very helpful; thank you. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:42, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

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Paralympic edits
Thanks for your kudos on my disability sport edits. I'm horrified at how few Paratriathlon World Champions have pages here - determined to fix that (hence Yannick Bouseaux, and Bill Chaffey (paratriathlete), waiting to be approved for mainspace). Brand new Wikipedia editor - did a dozen or two minor edits under IP, but I've literally only had an account for 3 days. I'll try not to screw up the formatting thing too badly. Thanks for your advice :) Sportygeek (talk) 11:25, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Nice
Hello Graham, I would like to understand why you erase the text I bring you the explanations of Nice Nice is French but has an Italian history Gaul (wikipedia) Nice wasn't in Gaul but in north of Italy in Cisalpine Gaul (wikipedia). The Var (river) was the historic border until 1860 with Treaty of Turin. Catherine Ségurane is the emblem of the city Siege of Nice (wikipedia) Cordially,  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bryan1760 (talk • contribs) 09:12, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Excellent edit summary!
This one, I mean. Thanks for making me smile. Rivertorch (talk) 09:54, 19 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Hehe, glad you liked it. I love that saying ... it's so true. :-) Graham 87 09:59, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

En-dashes
Hey, I tried to move the articles associated with Russia–Georgia War to match the current title, but I fudged up because I have no idea how to put en-dashes in the article title. Could you mind helping me out?-- The Devil's Advocate tlk. cntrb. 18:18, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Mildura
Noticed someone keeps screwing with Mildura's temperature chart? SuperDuy (talk) 04:46, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

RE: Signature
Cool, thank you for helping out with tweaking my signature there. Cheers. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 09:40, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Alston and my name on en.Wp
I begg your pardon for the mistake on Alston. I have a user name on the en.Wp but I didn't use it in order to put the link in addition at Alston. My user name on this Wp is User:José Fontaine but I don't contribute on en.Wp for one or two years. I don't write english fluently. I ought to write a page on Alston on fr.Wp in order to obtain a featured page. Excuse-me for my english. Sincerely, José Fontaine (talk) 11:26, 22 January 2013 (UTC) Perhaps you saw my name on fr.Wp in red letters User:Tonval, but this name is not my right name on en.Wp. Nevertheless I created Joseph Malègue in August 2011. I am fond of this Wp (the most important!), but I have too much work on fr.Wp and in my real life.

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm GeorgeLouis. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Pawn (chess), and have un-reviewed it again. If you've got any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thanks, GeorgeLouis — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeLouis (talk • contribs) 11:11, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps you could help?
An interesting set of cases: Arshad Warsi Movies was created November12, 2012.  The essentially identical Shooting Star Production Ind Ltd  was created December 20, 2012.  It would seem reasonable that the later article should have been CSD:A10 speedied as a duplicate of the earlier. But it has developed that the earlier article has an incorrect name and non-searchable name. At Articles for deletion/Arshad Warsi Movies I pointed this out and requested that someone with more hist-merge experience perform some non-controversial merging and deleting. Something you could do?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:54, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you much.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 03:35, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

French language warning
Hi, you gave me a warning when I added a link to a site on French language because of the false reason it was a spam site, the site I added has always been on Wikipedia and is a pure free site and the first ever online lanuage course. It is a historical site and not a spam site and still many are using that resourse to study even if the site is from 1994. While I can see you allow real spam site like About.com on French language. I really wanna have an explanation please why you gave me a warning because it was a spam site when it is absolutely not a spam site and will never be. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.253.171.212 (talk) 23:26, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

About the warned external site
Thank you for your reply where you said it was removed because it is a personal website, I have to follow up on that, that site is not a personal website, it was created as part of the companies Webworqs, Inc and Jump-Gate and in co-operation with International Institute of Information. It has been copyrighted by Jump-Gate since 1995 atleast which is not a personal website but a company that resides online and offline with many projects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.253.171.212 (talk) 19:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Personal web site
The site is still not a personal web site and will never be, he made this for an educational project with a staff of employees. And point 11 does not say it is forbidden for personal web pages but shall be limited. I know it is not personal web site since I am part owner of Webworqs, Inc and Jump-Gate. Also that French Language Course shall rather more serve as a archive of a very historical landmark in Internets history since it is the first and only left online language educational site with with audio. This site was originally created in 1993 but remade in 1994 with the current web design which hasn't changed since it was created but still people are using it a lot because of it's simplicity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.253.171.212 (talk) 03:46, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Your Comments
Hello. Thank you for your feedback. I am new to Wikipedia and unsure of the protocol, but appreciate the education and will do better going forward. Rbj456 (talk) 15:03, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Limerick (city)
There is a speedy deletion request on the article Limerick (city). The rationale given for this is: "The type of poem is a more common usage of the term. Hence the article "Limerick" must redirect to "Limerick (poem)" with a hatnote." This rationale is simply wrong as the poetry form derives its name from the city. This has been argued previously and there was no consensus for Limerick redirecting to Limerick (poem). However, I feel that Limerick should redirect to the disambiguation page and the current Limerick article should be called Limerick City.Corcs999 (talk) 21:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Removal of TWo Links to North West Heart Center Page
Good afternoon.

I saw that you decided to remove two links to the Adventist heart center page. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mitral_valve_repair&action=history and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventist_Medical_Center

AS far as the link to the heart surgery page not being about the procedure, half of the page discusses it. What's more, it is the same type of link as OTHER external links on that wikipedia page (following a precendent).

AS far as being self promotional, I am an adventist in the health care field (mental health) in Albuquerque. When I was told about the new stuff in portland (friend works up there) I wanted to share it. I was only following precedence on those other operation pages/links. .

you also edited the link on the Adventist hospital page. I have undone that with the reason listed. I have not undone your removal of on the mitral valve (even though I feel it should be). Instead I am waiting your reply. If you feel that it is still promotional then I feel you should also remove the external links to Mount Sinai, Brigham, Univeristy of Maryland, and also NYU. Those links are no different than the ones I added. And if you feel that the adventist health system is not on the same par as those institutions I will remove the links for you, citing your precedence as the reason.

Thank you and I look forward to your reply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsutter84 (talk • contribs) 22:19, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

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Traditional Chinese medicine
Thanks for clarifying the situation. Could you tell me why you imported an older version, effectively reverting the article to an older version?Curb Chain (talk) 11:50, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * So they do exist, but the version was not pasted over?Curb Chain (talk) 12:21, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Your comments on Didgeridoo
Your edit explanation "(actually, revert to last version by ClueBot NG ... I have grave doubts about this user's other edits)" is an interesting one. I hope you were referring to the edits of IP 223.204.87.139 and not mine.   Djapa Owen (talk) 14:37, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Black History Month
Dear Graham

As you seem to be the editor for the Black History Month article, I am writing to ask you not to remove the links to EDSITEment's Guide to Black History Month which I have added to the external links section. EDSITEment is a project of the National Endowment for the Humanities, an independent federal agency. All of the resources on our listing are funded projects of the NEH or EDSITEment developed lessons. You can also find our resources on the Library of Congress website but we think it would be better to have the link to our full listing as well.

Thank you Joe Phelan EDSITEment NEH — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noelcaprice (talk • contribs) 23:47, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

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Samuel Butler (poet)
Hello Graham, This footnote doesn't teach us much. In my humble opinion, such a discrepancy would deserve a longer explanation either in the text or in a footnote. Papier K (talk) 22:56, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
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Sound file
Hi Graham,

Do you know (or could you find) a sound file of an audience response to an entertainment? For example, are there any files of clapping or applause or other noisy audience reaction to a performance? I want to add such a sound file to the article Entertainment which I am currently trying to get through to GA status. The focus is on the audience - that is, on the people being entertained - rather than on the music or concert itself. There are too many types of music and concerts for one musical example to be representative of this broad topic. What I think would be representative is the audience response. Do you know if there are such files from among which I could choose? Thanks for your help. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 07:45, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Graham! The first is better. I used that. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 09:08, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Signpost Op-ed
Hi Graham87. I'm not sure what happened, but it looks like the article content got duplicated. Please could you take a look? Thanks! – Wdchk (talk) 12:47, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Norman Selfe

 * hey did you move Norman Selfe from a temp page in mainspace to the current article? Eight million years ago, there was a rule somewhere or other that creating temp/work pages in mainspace is verboten. No way i could find the rule now, but thought you might wanna know. &bull; Serviceable&dagger;Villain 07:42, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Precious again
  advice and vision

Thank you for helping me to English my Germanic wording, to make me create articles instead of interwiki-links, and for moving articles sensibly. I award you a Yogo sapphire, sparkling and rare, on the day when the other Graham's string quartet Chinese Whispers (new article today) receives a prize, - you are an awesome Wikipedian (23 September 2009)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:39, 18 February 2012 (UTC) A year ago, you were the 21st recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style. I miss the photographer, again, and put "Letting go of the past" on top of my talk, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Re:Pole vault
Sorry, but I thought that on wikipedia worth the same rules of the IAAF.--Kasper2006 (talk) 06:27, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
 * That's right. ;-) --Kasper2006 (talk) 08:16, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Import Böllhoff
Hello Graham,

I am writing you because of importing the Böllhoff article from the German database, it refers to (Import of de:Böllhoff to Böllhoff).

The article exists (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Böllhoff), it was also created by me for some years. I have an account, but I spoke with somebody of the support team and he told me the easiest way would be the import function, because of the language switch which will be created. If this is not possible, it would be no problem for me to create it as new article in the English database.

Because of the conflict, do you mean because it is an article of the company which I work for? But the article is very neutral without any advertisement character, this was something which I looked for before I created the German version.

Best regards, Kevin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boellhoff (talk • contribs) 07:11, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
for the tip off - although we have found good editors who have very poor starts - but I understand your point. Thanks for your contributions Victuallers (talk) 08:47, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Question
Hi Graham, The article that I have been working on (Entertainment), has now been made GA but still has its hat note saying it is a GA nominee. I do not know where the code is for that template. Can you explain to me how to remove that now outdated assessment? Thanks, Whiteghost.ink (talk) 01:56, 28 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks Graham! On the subject of this article, I wish that Cape Coast Castle and Slave Castle of Cape Coast could be merged. It seems their talk pages agree. My interest is that I have made a link to the former (which I consider to be the better article) from Entertainment. I don't know whether to edit the text before or after the merge. Either way, I think it would be better if these two were one. They are basically the same thing with a slightly different title. Can you do this? If not, where is the right place to ask? Thanks, Whiteghost.ink (talk) 02:18, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

misunderstanding?
The reason I've added Pickuptrucks.com link to Pickup Trucks is because the website gets the latest news on trucks, like, the new models, new features, the best seller, etc., that could be added to articles about or related those trucks. Not because its a commercial website. Seqqis (Talk) 06:12, 28 February 2013 (UTC)