User talk:Graham87/Archive 24

Requests_for_comment/Epeefleche
You may or may not be aware that the RFC/U on Epeefleche's approach to removing easily and obviously verifiable content has closed. Epeefleche essentially ignored you and I, and refused to respond to the main point of my criticism. The closing admin, also, has gone on to completely ignore your and my perspectives also in taking Epeefleche's side. Yes, there was a roughly two-thirds split against my position (keeping in mind that there was some circumstantial evidence of offwiki canvassing, including that Epeefleche has a background of doing exactly that), but that's not a unanimous enough reason to categorically ignore one side, and then to criticise me. This is an outright endorsement of the strategies and approaches used by Epeefleche's side, i.e., that wikidramamongering is an effective defence against any criticism and to silence opponents.

I no longer care. This is the final nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned regarding the culture at wikipedia. I have retired, primarily due to the admin conduct around the wikidrama of this RFC/U, and do not intend to return. There are other communities around the web that I have found which are far less combative and far less tolerant of dramamongers, and perhaps I'll see you there. &tilde;danjel [ talk &#124; contribs ] 00:39, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
Charles E. Keisler (talk), MCTS 07:22, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
Charles E. Keisler (talk), MCTS 00:28, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

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Miriam Makeba
Hi Jeremy, thanks for your edit to Miriam Makeba. However, the text that [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Miriam_Makeba&diff=542039858&oldid=542038973 you removed from the article] was not vandalism ; it shouldn't be in the article, however. See this talk page thread for more details. Graham 87 14:32, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * My birth name is spelled Geremy :p just thought I'd mention that in light of the situation. I try to check everything I can before I do something on Wikipedia, especially one regarding a Bio. I saw that the anon IP user that made the edit had only one contribution so I reverted thinking it was a rude gesture. Geremy Hebert (talk &#124; contribs) 14:44, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * We should put her full name in the article somewhere out of respect. You cite a valid enough reference, even if it's a full article only available to Time subscribers. Geremy Hebert (talk &#124; contribs) 14:53, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Replied at your talk page, Geremy. Graham 87 15:12, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Graham, Thanks for the instructions about how to merge Cape Coast Castle and Slave Castle of Cape Coast. I have done it now. All is well. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 03:18, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Can screen reader software handle PDFs
Hi Graham; there's a thread at Help talk:Citation Style 1 which potentially affects yourself. The specific question is about whether screen reader software can follow external links, and if so, what happens when the link target is a PDF file; but your opinion on the other matters under discussion would be valued as well. Thanks. -- Red rose64 (talk) 09:08, 8 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I've replied there. Graham 87 09:52, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Rottweilers
Why have you included a fan tag on the well written and referenced article on the Rottweiler? Your comment is just nonsense. Please remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exactly2009 (talk • contribs) 09:13, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Originally posted to User talk:Graham87/Import. Graham 87 15:13, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Re:English dialect changes
Hi,

The thing about the dialect changes here was the fact that there are already two spellings of the word "organized" as "organized", so isn't the article written with American English as opposed to British English?King Jakob  C2 18:41, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Adjusting SSS in your userpage
Hey there Graham, I've edit your userpage I hope you don't bother it, but I've just adjusted SSS box position, because it was centralized and it was breaking your barnstar gallery format. Cheers Eduemoni↑talk↓  03:54, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment
Hey Graham87; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:34, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

So, okay, how about the other direction?
My attempts to get blind users to discuss alt-text I've added to articles is a bust. How about if you compile a subpage, under your username, of a list of articles on which you want alt-text to be added to the images? I'll regularly review the list, add alt-text, wikilink, and asterisk or done-check the ones I've done. Then people can comment. I just want some centralized location for discussion, springboarded somewhere, where it's actually actively discussed. Of course, discussion may always break down into complaints from minimalists, caption-is-enough-ists, whatever. --Lexein (talk) 14:44, 15 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll be honest here: there have been very, very few times when I've read a Wikipedia article or page and thought "this really needs alt text". It is still engrained in me to skip over images and read the captions. I do notice and appreciate when alt text is used, though, and I'm willing to provide suggestions for alt text, but I don't really know what I'm missing, if you know whatI mean. Graham 87 15:04, 15 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, gotcha. Oh well. --Lexein (talk) 21:57, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
Arctic  Kangaroo  14:42, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Recent help edits
I don't think it's a big deal, but you might want to consider erasing the following from those shortcut edits where you helped me: Thanks again, Graham87! – P AINE E LLSWORTH  C LIMAX !  03:54, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * PLEASE LEAVE ONE LINE BLANK


 * Oops, done. I was wondering why they weren't HTML comments, but I put them in anyway. :-) Graham 87 05:29, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * And an oops for me, also. I just looked and saw that I didn't provide you a quick link back to the list page.  Please forgive me for that oversight, and thank you again for your help! –  P AINE E LLSWORTH  C LIMAX !  07:39, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you again! I am a newbie to this. Once I get the hang of it, I will be contributing quite a lot of info on rehabilitation technologies and other interests.

As long as I have your attention though, how do I remove the two dashes that have appeared before my user name on the participation sign up list for wiki-robotic-project and wiki-disability-network?

Please forgive my ignorance!

Victoria.Lee.Croasdell (talk) 17:41, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you again!!
My user page looks much better with a seperate section at the bottom! I just need to learn how to do that myself.

My 22 year old daughter, Autumn will be signing up as a wiki editor today and will be joining the wiki-disability network.

She was the main reason we began creating rehabilitation robotic devices. She had a crippling stroke at the age of 5. Although she had a miraculous recovery, it expanded our understanding of the lack of rehabilitation technologies.

I extend my gratitude

Victoria.Lee.Croasdell (talk) 20:25, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello, glad to be here! I'm still just trying to learn my way around. Autumn Siegel (talk) 21:40, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Your changes to my changes
Hi Graham87, not sure why you made changes to the changes I made. It was several months ago, that I made the changes and if I remember correctly it was removing a few people that were under the Gloucester notable section. I think one of the changes was about Whoopie summering in Gloucester, she has never summered in Gloucester. Whoopie did have a home in Maine, and she traveled to Gloucester frequently as she was dating the owner of a local restaurant and she worked at the bar with him on occasions. I know this to be a fact as I spent many nights chatting with her about it. Again, I am a little confused as to why you go and change this?

Elizabeth7green (talk) 23:05, 26 March 2013 (UTC) Beth

Thread at AN could use your input
Hi Graham. Just wondering if you'd be able to take a look at WP:AN when you get a chance. Looks to me like there's a histmerge that needs to be undone. Jenks24 (talk) 06:44, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I've replied there. Graham 87 07:56, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Scott Talbot-Cameron
Scott Talbot-Cameron is the son of Don Talbot. Both Don Talbot's parents (and consequently both Scott Talbot-Cameron father's side grandparents) are English, so Scott Talbot-Cameron must be within the Australians of English Descent category. ROXETTE88 (talk) 13:17, 28 March 2013 (GMT)

Descent
It's descent, not dissent. ROXETTE88 (talk) 14:22, 28 March 2013 (GMT)

User rights management
Nyttend (talk) 13:35, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Socks
FYI: Someone you've interacted with in the past has a lot of socks. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 16:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Viewing history
I have joined Wikipedia because I would like to improve the National Federation of the Blind page, but I'm having a hard time getting my head around what JAWS reads me on the history page. I can follow a diff between revisions reasonably well, but are there any tips you can give me for looking through the history? I would like to get as much salvageable material from the old revisions as I can before I consider major rewriting. TStivers (talk) 02:31, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry we missed you!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/9 - hope we can see you at the next meet up - cheers sats 08:37, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 * being number 10 - there should be some special things happening anyways - sats 00:37, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

You have a new message
...at my talk page! --Tito Dutta (contact) 09:51, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

April 12 2013
Hey Graham,

Thanks for the advice I enabled twinkle and maybe that might help. whenever I was doing undoes I was mainly trying to fix the vandalism as quickly as I could. I was unaware however that I was missing things. Thanks again, CensoredBiscuit (talk) 07:58, 12 April 2013 (UTC) btw if youre ever on freenode, ping me.

Roy Daniell's guide runners
Thanks for your message regarding Roy Daniell's guide runners at the 2008 Beijing Paralympics. Here's a couple of sources to confirm that he used two guide runners, Julien Wicks and Dennis Fitzgerald, in the T12 marathon:

The Canberra Times, 6 July 2008, p23, states: "In Beijing, Daniell will have a second guide runner, Dennis Fitzgerald, with whom Wicks will swap halfway through the 42.195km race. 'When Roy is tired and struggling, I'll still be reasonably fresh and able to provide a bit of extra motivation to get him over the line," Wicks says.'"

The Canberra Times, 12 April 2008, p6, states: "For the first time in his career, Daniell, who has less than 5 per cent of normal vision, will run tomorrow with the help of two alternating guide runners, Dennis Fitzgerald and Julien Wicks, in what will be a trial run for the Games."

DanielDoyce (talk) 05:48, 14 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The citations for these articles are:
 * * Hand, Jenna. "Olympic guide to gold". The Canberra Times. 6 July 2008. p.23.
 * * Moloney, John-Paul. "Sons inspire marathon runner to a third Games". The Canberra Times. 12 April 2008. p.6.
 * Also, just for your information, the APC profile of Dennis Fitzgerald is also correct – he was a guide runner for both Gerrard Gosens and Roy Daniell in Beijing. DanielDoyce (talk) 10:56, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Reference deletion
Hello, why did you delete the references that I added yesterday at radiation therapy page? I know that this statement is already referenced, because I myself was the one who has added the original reference [21] a couple of months ago. However, the two new references that I added yesterday talk about a very new tumor localization technique that has not been mentioned in that old reference! I don't think this is considered as reference spamming! Homewikihome (talk) 07:28, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments Graham. Homewikihome (talk) 20:38, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Wikipedia:Viewing and restoring deleted pages. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. (This warning specifically refers to this edit) Jvvg-jacob-x (talk) 17:05, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Heavy handed?
So, a kid comes along and makes a handful of silly vandalism edits. I and another editor revert them, and warn her on her talk page. She immediately apologises, and stops editing. Then, 19 hours later, and after no further edits, you come along and give her an indef block. Over the top, just a little, perhaps? Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:08, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I guess so. Perhaps I took the edits a bit too seriously ... calling somebody a gypsy without evidence isn't really a good idea on this site. I've unblocked the user; let's see what happens. Graham 87 07:24, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Good move - thanks for reconsidering. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:08, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * sheesh just a gypsy? you should see (or probably have already seen) what some of our fellow australians call each other... sats 08:34, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * LOL! Graham 87 08:37, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * nope - I would say YUK! sats 09:13, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Please userfy article for Keith Winstein
Hello, I would like to recreate the article for Keith Winstein (U.S. journalist and computer programmer). Could you please userfy the deleted version? Thank you very much. Majumda (talk) 04:42, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Census data
Hi, thanks for your help with the Census data referencing. I hadn't been able to figure out how to do that apart from using url links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carmazina (talk • contribs) 22:42, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Australian Census
Hi again, thanks for the additional info. I think I'm getting a better understanding of how all this works. And now I'll try signing off properly Carmazina (talk) 08:10, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Yo
Yo, you have a new message in Monobook. Thanks for finally stopping by to catch up with one of your sockpuppets; for months I've been trying to help you understand that they can offer you refreshing insights. You should talk to them more often. Graham87 vector (talk) 11:24, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree; I think you should create more of them. Graham87&#39;s good foot account (talk) 11:26, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think that's a good idea. It'll come back to bite you. Pianoman87 (talk) 11:30, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Gimme an orange bar now! I wouldn't mind These orange things either. Graham87&#39;s good foot account (talk) 12:20, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Signpost
Thanks for your kind words about the arb report on my talk page. Of course I have noticed your patient formatting of the report from time to time and appreciate your attention to it. —Neotarf (talk) 04:42, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations
If you like you can add this userbox to your collection.

```Buster Seven   Talk  06:07, 3 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much! According to the API and my preferences, [//en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=users&ususers=Graham87&usprop=editcount it's a little early to celebrate] (99,194 edits at time of writing), and the Toolserver has been a bit wonky lately, but that's alright! Graham 87 06:45, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I use List of Wikipedians by number of edits. I cant explain the discrepancies. There you are #226 with 100112 edits. Thanks for all you do. ```<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven  <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk  13:25, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Belated thanks
I don't think I thanked you for a helpful change to my user page in January, sorry. Best wishes, Pol098 (talk) 19:00, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

A Request
Heyya,

Have submitted a presentation proposal for Wikimania 2013. Found that you too were interested in attending the same.

My submission can be found here. Please sign at the bottom of the page therein as a possible attendee if you feel that the presentation would be worthwhile.

<font color="#000000">undefinedDebashisM Talk 05:24, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll not stoop to the level of 'canvassing' any more. Have sent out 6/7 request in the last few minutes addressed to prospective attendees only. Promise not to send out such requests any more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DebashisM (talk • contribs) 05:45, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Notifications box replacement prototypes released
Hey Graham87; Kaldari has finished scripting a set of potential replacements available to test and give feedback on. Please go to this thread for more detail on how to enable them. Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 14:59, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Seeking advice for a page move
I would have went straight for an uncontroversial move but I noticed you may have insight regarding the title. I would think Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers ought to be the article's title with ICANN as a redirect. This edit is sufficient for me to give pause and ask of your opinion. Is there a reason that favors ICANN as the title? If there is not, please make "Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" the articles title, converting "ICANN" into a redirect. I look forward to seeing your response as I am quite curious. Thank you for considering these things on my behalf. My76Strat (talk) 18:34, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Greetings Graham87. There is a reply on my talk page which follows on with an additional question. If you are willing, the additional insight will be appreciated. Thanks, My76Strat (talk) 03:35, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Lee_%28murderer%29
You deleted information that is valid to this topic - Jean Lee. You deleted information that contradicts the official Government position of guilt, when the person is in fact innocent. The reasons for Jean Lee's innocence are at the link you deleted. By only giving one side, you are censoring Government accountability, and aiding in the harming of an innocent person.

If you want to understand the grounds, then I am happy to explain such to you. However, if you choose to delete my link again, then you censoring important information relevant to this topic and doing harm to the innocent.

Furthermore you gave no opportunity to address any concerns and simply deleted. Not an act of someone interested in balance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisentiae (talk • contribs) 22:28, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

 * Since I am learning things on the go, I might have made a few blunders on my way. I assure that I would keep it in consideration as I move ahead. I would also try to correctly modify the errors that I have already made. I would be glad if you could provide me some guidance otherwise too.  D ip ta ns hu Talk 05:28, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

 D ip ta ns hu Talk 10:33, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

 D ip ta ns hu Talk 15:02, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

 D ip ta ns hu Talk 02:24, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

 D ip ta ns hu Talk 07:37, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Articles that you have started or expanded
Hi I found the list of articles that you have started or expanded to be pretty long and revised the layout by dividing it into multiple columns so that it can be easily viewed. Hope that you do not mind.  D ip ta ns hu Talk 10:50, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of contents of Homing (hematopoietic)
I would be glad if you please let me know whether certain portions of contents of Homing (hematopoietic) that has been directly copied from a cited source, are copyrighted and what sort of modifications should it undergo. I have initiated a discussion on its talk page.  D ip ta ns hu Talk 11:25, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Cancer edits
Hello Graham87. Thank you for taking the time to look over the recent edits I made in some medical articles. While I completely understand the point that some of what I wrote may rely on case studies - there was other information that is medical facts and public medical knowledge, such as artificial embolization materials, microsphere information, selective internal radiation treatment facts (just to name a few). Those are real and current information that should be available for anyone to know what cancer treatment options are out there.

In response to your concern about relying on "case studies", please read this statement from the Chemoembolization article: "Chemoembolization is a combination of local delivery of chemotherapy and a procedure called embolization to treat cancer, most often of the liver. It is also being trialled at University Clinic in Frankfurt, Germany for the treatment of mesothelioma with some promising results.[3]"  Not only is this referencing what I assume are case studies, but the link is also dead. It's entries like this one that give off a bad example for newbie wikipedians (such as myself). Is there a way for the two of us to discuss my edits and put back the ones that are not case study related? Thanks! ChipnukBrayn (talk) 14:45, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Graham, thanks for following up. I will review and I'll let you know if I have any additional questions.  I appreciate you taking the time to go back and review my edits.  Thanks! ChipnukBrayn (talk) 15:54, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Awards lists in play articles
Based on your past editing activity, you may want to comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Theatre.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:09, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hello Graham87
Hello Graham87, thanks for your feedback on the proton article. I have replied on the talk page. I appreciate your feedback, it will help me to improve the quality of my contributions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helper1976 (talk • contribs) 10:32, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Before vs. prior to
I saw your copyedit on Testosterone. I felt that you might have issues with before vs. prior to and have commented here.  D ip ta ns hu Talk 17:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

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Bananas in Pyjamas
Thanks for tidying up the Bananas in Pyjamas information I added. Philiashasspots (talk) 06:20, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * No worries, and ta for [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bananas_in_Pyjamas&diff=556060604&oldid=556034485 this edit]; I didn't think to chec there! Graham 87 06:48, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Screenreader reports
I was wondering if you could tell me what your screenreader does with the, , and formatting tags. I want to make sure that when I redact text, it can properly be read by screenreaders:


 * Strikeout text
 * Deleted text
 * Inserted text

This is regard my question at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Accessibility. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:35, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

verifications
I am a new English to Arabic translator on Wikipedia but I face some problems concerning the codes and the captures, can I have an alternative to all those verifications? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samarzahran (talk • contribs) 14:06, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

RE: recent missed edits
Thanks for the constructive and helpful criticism, I am still quite new to the process of wiki vandalism fighting, and still sometimes miss multiple edits like those which you pointed out.

My technique at present is to use RCmap to watch edits, and either undo, or Twinkle's rollback if I spot nested/multiple edits from the same IP I have only recently started using Twinkle for reversion, but still have a habit of hitting undo rather than rollback.

I've been advised on a number of occasions now to ask for rollback rights, in order to use Huggle or STiki, both of which require that, but have been slow to ask as I still feel I have a lot to learn, and don't wish to make life more difficult for the more experienced as I am just as likely to make errors with more powerful tools, as I am with 'simple' addons like Twinkle, ( Who am I kidding, I'm still finding my way around Twinkle, using cut/paste vandalism templates ;)).

Zenibus (talk) 00:21, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Lists
Graham,

Would you please tell me what the following list sounds like?


 * Rose colors
 * White rose
 * Yellow rose

Does that turn into something like "List of 3 items: Rose colors, (bullet) White rose, (bullet) Yellow rose, list end"? Or does it treat the "Rose colors" item as a separate list, or as not part of a list? Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:21, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. It sounds like this would not be a desirable format. I'll stop using it. Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:28, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Edit summaries and Wikidata
Thanks for your notification. I will be more careful next time. --fireattack (talk) 09:56, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Notifications and edit summaries
Hi. I'm wondering how you deal with the new Notifications feature. In particular, I'm wondering if there's a way that I (or anyone) can save you time by not having to read through pointless drama. E.g. If I write "User:Graham87 ignore this thread, you were mentioned but it contains only drama" - as part of an edit summary, would that arrive in a way that helped you? (Assuming that you trusted me completely...)

Summary: I'm partially asking about the practicalities of how you interact with Notifications. I'm partially warning you to ignore the tiresome thread at Wikipedia talk:Policies and guidelines where they're still arguing about who said what and who killed who, but someone mentioned you and linked to your username, which made me wonder if I could save you the time of having to read through the facepalm-inducing drama. Best wishes, –Quiddity (talk) 19:02, 30 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Graham, I actually came here to warn you about PGBOLD as well. User:Dmcq asked about blind editors, I mentioned your name with a link, and Quiddity chastised me for it. I don’t think there’s anything new for you in that discussion, unless you want to chime in about why it might or might not be a Bad Thing to remove blank lines from newbies’ Talk posts. —Frungi (talk) 19:09, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * @Quiddity and Frungi: While I have concerns about the accessibility of the notifications feature, I found it quite easy to use once I got used to it. So I would get an "ignore thread" warning through an edit summary, but, being me, I'd be more likely than not to just read it anyway. :-) I did get the latest notification and ... ugh ... what a time sink that thread is! Graham 87 02:05, 31 May 2013 (UTC)