User talk:Graham87/Archive 34

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Hi Graham. Following up on my message of August 12, if you have an opinion about my music bot request, please feel free to chime in in that discussion. Thanks.Anythingyouwant (talk) 04:39, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I've replied there. Graham 87 05:30, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks.Anythingyouwant (talk) 07:04, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Admin desysoppings by month question
Hi Graham87! So, I've got another Desysoppings by month question – I'm trying to independently go over these numbers (right now, just for 2015), here. But I've got discrepancies for the months of January, February (especially!), and April 2015 between the Desysoppings by month table and my count – I don't suppose there's any chance that you can spot what I've missed, is there?! Thanks in advance! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 06:03, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * For the listings after July 2014 (which I added), I got the numbers of desysops for each month by going to the last revision of Former administrators for that month (e.g. [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Former_administrators&oldid=644704542 here for January 2015]). Graham 87 06:11, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, for 2015, I went here: Former administrators/chronological/2015. I'm wondering if the chronological/2015 list is missing some that are going up at the Former admin front page... But I'll try and double-check the chronological/2015 figures vs. the Former admin front page figures soon. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 06:16, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I hope not but if it does, let me know. The former admins pages don't list admins who have subsequently been re-sysopped. Graham 87 06:18, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, yeah, that's it! – Dennis Brown and RG2 explain the discrepancy for Jan. 2015! as both were resysopped within 3 months... OK, I'll have to think some more about how I want to handle this. But thanks for helping me figure it out! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 06:25, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Follow-up: My numbers for Jan. and April now match yours at Desysoppings by month. But there's still a discrepancy for February – the front page for February shows 7 desysoppings, and I think that's now what my separate count now comes up with too. If it's supposed to be 8, I'm still missing something... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 06:51, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Aha! That's because Nyttend was [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3ANyttend&year=2015&month=2&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1&hide_tag_log=1&hide_review_log=1&hide_thanks_log=1 desysopped in February 2015], which I was not aware of until this message on the bureaucrats' noticeboard. Graham 87 07:13, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's it! And it's a head-scratcher too, as I can't find Nyttend's original desysop request at either WP:BN or to a Talk page (it must have been requested via Email...). Anyway, that would be #8. Thanks! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 07:39, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was requested by email. Nyttend (talk) 11:11, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Move and merge history
As before: I am not able to move Lobet den Herrn, alle Heiden to Lobet den Herrn, alle Heiden, BWV 230 for consistency with other motets, and an admin is needed for a history merge of Carl Nielsen works, see the talk, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:58, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I've done the page move, but I can't do the history merge of Carl Nielsen works because it wasn't a straight cut-and-paste move. Graham 87 12:07, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the move. No it wasn't straight, I combined the three lists to one, finding it awkward to have to change the same thing three times. It is the same info, though. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune
Hello, thanks for your guidance and sorry again for the mess I created. Before I do any mistake, would this piece which is freely licensed by the uploader which is also the owner for the article in the subject instead of the MIDIs that are there at the moment ? Thanks Matanya (talk) 15:06, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds great to me! Graham 87 15:12, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello
Hello Graham87, I'm so new with Wikipedia that I don't know if I'm violating guidelines or not signing four tildes or all the other things I'm supposed to be doing. I found your name on the article for Luke Blackburn, Governor of Kentucky, USA. I am trying to write an article about Joseph McCormack. Blackburn appointed him to the Kentucky Board of Health in 1880 when Blackburn was Governor. There's lots more to the story, but even though I have my "sandbox" ready, I'm not sure where to go from here. Is there anyway you could help me navigate my way through this process--or put me in touch with someone who can? I would very much appreciate it. Valerie Summers, Drvalsummers (talk) 02:09, 14 September 2015 (UTC) DrValSummers

You're awesome
I met User:Scott last week. We agreed: you're an awesome Wikipedian. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 07:32, 14 September 2015 (UTC)   This user has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian on. Agree, and someone else noticed already on 23 September 2009. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:10, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Awwww, thanks! Graham 87 09:37, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Reference desk question
Hi, wondering if there's anything you can add to the question at Reference desk/Computing Nil Einne (talk) 14:28, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I've replied there. Graham 87 14:54, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Hist merge check please
Hi, I did a hist-merge after the following situation that spanned six years:
 * Copy paste move of Kodambakkam to Kodambakkam, Chennai, conversion of Kodambakkam to a different article, copy paste move of this version to Kodambakkam, Movie which was then moved to Kodambakkam (film), then conversion of Kodambakkam to a dab which was then converted to a redirect (I'm the guilty one on that as I didn't see the history then it seems), and then Kodambakkam, Chennai was copy paste moved to Kodambakkam. (Except the last one, all were unattributed)

I think I've fixed it all properly, but I'm not entirely sure as this is the most complex scenario I've handled on hist-merges; since you seem to do a lot of these I was wondering if you could check and make sure. cheers. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  13:56, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Former administrators/reason/resigned
I did think very hard about the issue you raise before making the edit. You say "this table row is for noting the period of inactivity that lasted over three years since their desysop", but there are two separate periods of inactivity that have lasted over three years since their desysop; is there anything anywhere to say that it has to be the first such period, or is that just your own view? Obviously the first inactive period is the one which established the ex-administrator as "long-term inactive", but it seems to me more helpful to give the most recent one, since that shows that the person in question is currently inactive, whereas listing an earlier period of inactivity which has an end date runs the risk of giving the impression that he or she is now active. Actually, it seems to me that listing both the earliest and the current one would be best, but granted that the table has no provision for doing that, as I say, listing the current period seems to me to be most useful. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:53, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I have replied on my talk page to your message about this on that page. I see that is not your preferred method, but over the years I have sometimes found it horrendously difficult to re-create the thread of a discussion which I have had reason to want to read, where the participants jumped from one page to another, in a way which was probably perfectly clear to them at the time, but is anything but clear to another editor coming along later, when the relevant talk page edits are buried among loads of other, irrelevant edits to the same pages. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:56, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

unsigned comments
Hi Graham87,

I often see unsigned comments which have been left on talk-pages, and I vaguely remember seeing you fix this with some kind of a template. I have just discovered an unsigned comment at Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions and thought I would ask you how this can be fixed. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 11:20, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Grothuss
Including Grothuss in the list of composers by name is fine with me. But, that list says it "includes only music composers of significant fame, notability or importance who also have current Wikipedia articles". So, it looks like he needs an article.

By the way, later today I'm going to install icons into the Sound List for the flac and ogg files. Otherwise, the flac files won't play. I think the Sound List is now free of duplicates. Next will be actual article edits (at last). Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 12:51, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, I didn't notice the header, but I did check to see whether there were other inline interwiki links ... which there were, so I thought it was OK to add him. Graham 87 13:25, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Reference errors on 9 October
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Mystery File
Hi Graham, looks like it's not titled correctly, but I don't know what the correct title is. Any idea? It does not seem to belong in the Kreutzer Sonata, Violin Sonata No. 9 (Beethoven), but I don't know where it belongs.Anythingyouwant (talk) 21:45, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I don't know. It doesn't even sound like Beethoven (it sounds more Spanish than anything), and my absolute pitch tells me that it starts in F minor, modulates to D minor for the main theme, then goes to D major for the final theme. However the D minor Wikipedia article says that Beethoven didn't write many chamber works in this key, and those he did write are irrelevant here. Neither Musipedia nor Themefinder have been very helpful to me here (the former tends to work better in my experience), but your mileage may vary. You could ask at the humanities reference desk; they've helped with a similar situation in the past. Graham 87  04:41, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for taking a look. I will take it to that reference desk as you suggested.  Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 07:49, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Reference desk identified it as "La Gitana" composed by Fritz Kreisler. I have requested that the file be renamed.Anythingyouwant (talk) 09:24, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Awesome. I've renamed it. Graham 87 10:16, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Two-dimensional music?
I have come across a bunch of music files uploaded by the same user, containing great music composed a long time ago, but performed fairly recently. The licenses for all these files claim the work is two-dimensional and therefore okay for Commons. This seems really weird to me. I left a message for the user at Commons yesterday, but haven't heard back yet. He hasn't edited since September, so it may be awhile before he replies. We may be talking about dozens and perhaps hundreds of music files here.Anythingyouwant (talk) 18:46, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Probably just a relatively new user selecting the wrong tag ... it is after all music, which is art. Maybe replace them with PD-old? Graham 87 01:08, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * In the example I gave, the image page says "recorded in 1987". That's not old enough to be public domain.  This editor seems to be claiming that since it was composed in 1927 that makes it really old, but we're supposed to use the performance date.  A musical performance of an old composition is not like snapping a photo of an old painting, right?Anythingyouwant (talk) 04:03, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Nope, not at all, unless the performers themselves released it into the public domain, which may or may not have happened here. Graham 87 06:21, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Flopinot has kindly responded at my Commons user talk page, and so hopefully we'll have further discussion there.Anythingyouwant (talk) 14:58, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Lucky it's not tagged as "five-dimensional" (?) Martinevans123 (talk) 15:20, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * If it were a MIDI file, then I wouldn't mind, because they really are two-dimensional in an artistic sense.Anythingyouwant (talk) 15:25, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Disclaimer
Hi Graham, if you get a chance, would you please take a quick look at the disclaimer I wrote here, and let me know if it sounds reasonable? It seems reasonable to me, and a second opinion about it would be much appreciated. Thanks.Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:37, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. Sorry for missing this message until now. Graham 87 16:02, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, no problem, thanks for the feedback. I feel more comfortable now going forward with adding music files to articles, but I do get the sense that Commons could be more clear and specific in its instructions to uploaders of music files.  For example, they could say in big bold red letters: "If the music performance is less than 70 years old then you need to make sure that you have permission to upload this music, no matter how long ago the music was composed."  It's not clear to me that people are always following this simple rule, but it's not clear to me that they're not either.Anythingyouwant (talk) 20:21, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

User 103.248.14.182
Hi Graham87, I have not stopped by to say hello in a very long time. I hope you are well. I am coming by to let you know about the edits that were made by this user. I saw all the additions earlier today and they reminded me quite a bit of an incident with another IP editor from January 2014 and another incident from late 2013. The IP editor that I crossed paths with in 2014 and the editor that you reverted today are both out of Dhaka, Bangladesh. The former IP editor is blocked until January 2016.

These two IP users are socks of the blocked user Musarabbyahmad.

All three worked on earthquake articles back then, in January 2014, and again today. So, I don't know if you think this is an action item, but thought I would let you know. Have a great day, Dawnseeker2000  03:42, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Leftover page
Hi Graham87. It has been a while since you "merged revision histories" of Quranism. I'm not sure what Quranism/Temp2 is supposed to be, but it looks like a leftover from this merger. Shouldn't it be deleted? - HyperGaruda (talk) 09:38, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Oops, thanks for letting me know. I should have deleted it after I moved it to the "Temp2" title, but I obviously didn't. I've just done that now. Graham 87 10:19, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

OuTof india
They must be moved far out by now! Joshua Jonathan  -  Let's talk!   14:09, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Huh? I was only doing a history merge on that page. Graham 87 14:15, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Looked like you were having some trouble with it, so plenty of time for those "Indigenous Aryans" to move out in the meantime. We've had looooooong discussions on this fringe-theory; some editors really believe in it. Best regards,  Joshua Jonathan   -  Let's talk!   20:38, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

if you have time
check my recents, at least one of them is ignoring warnings, imho... JarrahTree 14:20, 27 October 2015 (UTC) i understand completely JarrahTree 14:35, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

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Diving
Hi Graham, I've used your wording and replaced "of" with "separated by". I hope it makes sense, but I'm not a native speaker. 85.193.214.212 (talk) 21:05, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I've replied at the article's talk page. Graham 87 05:00, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks :-) 85.193.214.212 (talk) 12:57, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Allegra Versace
..Take a look at that article. This weeks TAFI project article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BabbaQ (talk • contribs) 18:48, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Harold Arlen
Oh, how odd. I didn't realize Wikipedia preferred British punctuation. A strange style choice for an American operation. But so be it. Will leave such items alone in future. I mostly took an interest in the page because of the various dead links that needed to be fixed. Thanks in any case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deckoffa (talk • contribs) 13:19, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

keine bleibende Statt
The renaming of the file was not a good idea, "hie" is the original,and what we sing. IF that is changed for modern German (but I would not know why), it should also be Stadt, but don't we need sources? I am sorry that I can't go to where this came from, for lack of time, - could you please? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:10, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * After I'd done the rename, I'd checked the German Wikisource and noticed it said "hie" instead of "hier" ... so I started to have misgivings about it. Since both you and (as it turns out) Michael Bednarek have indicated that it's not a good idea, I've renamed the file on Commons to yuse "hie" again. This flurry of renaming was started by an edit by Johnadam789. Graham 87 08:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. A flurry fits the concept that we have no lasting place ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
And again, thanks for the help. I have become a lot more useful here in the Wikipedia community. Svoboman (talk) 03:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

AfD
Dear Graham87: I just noted that you are an active administrator, and thus I would like to ask you for a favour: Could you please review the AfD discussion on Thongtip Ratanarat and either close this or give a recommendation, what should be added to keep the article? --NearEMPTiness (talk) 18:15, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Content Dispute, Please take a look
Hello,

Your neutral opinion on the content dispute currently on-going at Hadith and Criticism of Hadith will be appreciated. The discussion thread is at: Talk:Hadith. The main issue is the material sourced from Wael Hallaq's paper, sourced from JSTOR, but is also available at: http://www.globalwebpost.com/farooqm/study_res/islam/fiqh/hallaq_hadith.html

Thanks. c Ө de1+6  LogicBomb!  15:58, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

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Sorry
Hey sorry Im very new to wiki i was not aware that copy and paste was not aloud. Honestly i fell foolish thinking it was. I had just seen it on a few. Ill try again today this time ill put all original work. Sorry about making you go out of your way to revert it yesterday. Let me know if there are any other specific tips you have for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captain Sparks (talk • contribs) 22:10, 26 November 2015 (UTC)