User talk:Graham87/Archive 63

Student stuff
Re: Shuo1103. Certainly I understand. My class syllabi clearly state that unreferenced content does not count for our course credit. Mind you, not all students read the syllabi, understand instructions or follow them. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 11:40, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure, students will always be students ... it takes all sorts! Graham87 (talk) 11:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

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Some stroopwafels for you!

 * Thanks ... oh yes! I've had them at Wikimanias but they've gotta be best fresh in their country of origin! Graham87 (talk) 17:51, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Man I'm so jealous. Safe travels! Drmies (talk) 23:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm so happy that one of the real things will be me! - Today's TFA, Felix M. Warburg House, was written by Vami_IV and Epicgenius, introduced: "This article is about another of the great houses that once lined Fifth Avenue in New York. Specifically, this is the mansion of Felix M. Warburg, a Jewish financier who ignored fears of anti-Semitic reprisal to his decided to build himself a big Gothic manor in the middle of New York City. Although the Warburgs no longer remain, their legacy does: the museum is now the home of the Jewish Museum (Manhattan) and the building largely survives as they left it. It's a beautiful building and I hope you will all enjoy it."! - in memory --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:33, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * It was so great to meet you and your mother yesterday Graham. I hope you enjoy the rest of your travels! the wub "?!"  09:18, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much, it was good to meet everyone there! We had a great time! Graham87 (talk) 13:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I like to hear that! - today's story has a pic of a woman holding her cat, a DYK of 5 years ago - the recent pics show 2 orange tip butterflies --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Cool. We're just back from among other things an evensong service at Westminster Abbey, which was amazing ... the highlight for me being "O God, the King of Glory" by Orlando Gibbons. Tomorrow we'll be hearing Monteverdi's Vespro della Beata Vergine! Graham87 (talk) 18:35, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I listened to the Gibbons, impressed, didn't know. Don't miss reading the article about the Vespers, probably the achievement I'm proudest here, and impossible without the sources that Brianboulton passed to me when he realised that He wouldn't be able to write it. - Dear friends who came to listen to our Bach concert bought tickets to listen to Gardiner conducting Bach in Advent, in Konzerthaus Dortmund, where their last invitation had been - The Vespro della Beata Vergine, with Philippe Herreweghe. I was amazed how much of the music he assigned to solo voices. The most extreme Vespers were with just 10 singers, the minimum because Nisi Dominus is four two four-part choirs and two tenors singing cantus firmus. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh you bet I have; it's helped me greatly to prepare for the concert. It's at the Barbican Centre by The Sixteen, so relatively small-scale too. I didn't know the Gibbons piece either before today's order of service was announced a few weeks ago. Graham87 (talk) 19:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The performance was amazing, of course ... what a way to end our journey in London! The small scale and the live performance (as opposed to a recording) made things even more interesting ... there was chanting and an organ improvisation at the start. Graham87 (talk) 09:13, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * sounds great! - yesterday's story remembered an oratorio world premiere I was in, conducted by the composer --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:13, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I liked seeing Erschallet, ihr Lieder on the Main page today, 310 years after the first performance! We sang it in 2000. Today's program was easier but also spirited. I found a nice video of "I will sing with the spirit", with nature photography, - enjoy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. - getting closer ...! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:44, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, only six days to go now! We'll be on the train leaving at nearly 10AM on Tuesday!, I finally got my stroopwafels at Zaanse Schans ... both packaged at the shop in De Kat paint mill and freshly baked at the bakery near the clock shop ... the fresh one was absolutely delicious, of course! I haven't had a chance to try the packaged ones but any stroopwafel is better than none! Yes, you can call me a certified addict! Graham87 (talk) 17:08, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ha, I remember that place--it's so weird to see them dipped in chocolate and whatnot--that's for the tourists. I hope you waved across the water to my friends Rob and Joanne. Enjoy! Drmies (talk) 17:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Lol! I got them all plain ... they were perfectly good that way, of course ... but the chocolate/nut dip at the bakery was tempting, I have to admit! Just like when I was in Belgium I took the Liège waffle without toppings, per tradition. I do draw the line on the different sauces with fries though .... just salt all the way for me! Graham87 (talk) 17:22, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Today's story is my little contribution to Trinity Sunday, with a church named after the Trinity (which I'd have liked to see pictured) and a cantata Bach conducted 300 years ago for the occasion (having composed it 9 years earlier). - How was the Beethoven concert? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh wow. The concert was amazing ... it sounded like the pianist, Mariia Kurtynina, had a couple of extra hands sometimes .. she was pushing the pianos there to their limits! The program consisted of Chopin's Waltz in A Minor, Op. 34, No. 2, Nocturne in E-flat major, Op. 55, No. 2, Waltz in A-flat major, Op. 42, Mendelssohn's Spring Song Op. 62 No. 6 and Song Without Words Op. 67 No. 2, and the Variations sérieuses Op. 53 (which have an interesting Beethoven connection), and Beethoven's Rage Over a Lost Penny rondo. Graham87 (talk) 09:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Great! Nice weather predicted for tomorrow. There are restaurants around the corner of SMM that don't close at 2pm, as less touristy places in Germany tend to do. Is that an idea? I checked the (walled) rose garden in Eltville: nice flowers, nice smells - for dessert perhaps ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:02, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Sounds great ... yeah I noticed there were a lot of restaurants in that area; glad they'll be open for us. My mother's fairly allergic to flowers and I'm not that in to them ... hanging out afterwards/just exploring the general area sounds fine to us. Can't wait ... I can't believe it's less than 24 hours away now! Graham87 (talk) 10:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I suggest Eltville for the hanging out then, it is the only town in the Rheingau with no road between river and town, so quieter with only pedestrians along the river - even bicycles prohibited. It's on the way to Mainz anyway. Castle and a church where our cantor's father was the organist, on top of the roses. - Limburg-Süd is a simple station, just a small building at the track where you arrive. I'll look for two people, one with a white stick, on the platform near the building. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Make that two people with no white cane ... I actually barely use mine and, apart from identification, it'd just get in the way for the rest of the time of our visit. I asked Mum and she said it'd be easier if we didn't carry my cane. The picture on my user page should be OK for identification. Graham87 (talk) 12:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * if you still look more or less the same ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:35, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This picture was sufficient for me to spot Graham straight away. There was no sign of any white stick. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 15:55, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Just fixed the program above ... I missed out a work .... ooops! See you in an hour and a half! Graham87 (talk) 07:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the visit, a pleasure! Haven't looked at pictures yet but have some on my mind! - Enjoy today's story! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it was great to meet you ... we had a blast! Graham87 (talk) 18:08, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you - pics to come. I'm in the slow process of uploading 20 May. Will come again when done. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * 20 May pics done, a day of singing in choir, lunch with an alto friend, and hiking. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * here you go, Haydn pianist - how about writing an article of the place? I found a video, seems to be the same disk we heard, just without the live singing of the guide. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Wow cool, thanks! That was a limited-time-only performance, though. :-) Cool re video ... I've found various videos too; nothing beats being there live! Re article about the place: probably not, I find article-writing from scratch scary, but you never know! Graham87 (talk) 08:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you! - 29 May 1913: The Rite of Spring - today's story, actually something I saw at that place in a revival ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Today's story is about Samuel Kummer, one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I managed to upload images of 25 May, that means Eltville rose garden for your mother to look at without getting allergic reactions, and a shot of SMM from the street. I took one of the sign also, but will feature it along with our visit, like a header ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * We're just about to leave for the Piano Salon Christophori concert, with Schubert's Piano Trio No. 2 and the Piano Trio by Rebecca Clarke! Graham87 (talk) 16:37, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Other way around, as it turns out; the Schubert was second. But still an amazing concert; the Schubert was particularly magical! And the acoustics were amazing ... even from the back. Graham87 (talk) 20:11, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I forgot to mention: The pianist was Özgür Aydin (who came 3rd in the 2001 Cleveland International Piano Competition) and the violinist and cellist, Cornelia Gartemann and Solène Kermarrec, also play in the Berlin Philharmonic ... so we were in very capable hands indeed! Graham87 (talk) 20:34, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * this one, I guess - sounds great! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! Which IP was that, again? I think I remember them but I can't remember which IP they used. Graham87 (talk) 07:52, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah dammit, I should've double-checked. Actually, it was the boy band vandal: 2001:56A:F272:C700:0:0:0:0/64. I noticed you extended the block on the range to a more suitable length and reverted some more edits that other editors hadn't noticed. Great work! — AP 499D25  (talk)  08:54, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Nuisance IP range
While I'm here, could you take a look at the Telstra Australia IP range 203.37.238.0/23 and see if it's worth blocking? I had been noticing quite a number of unconstructive edits on my watchlist from addresses starting with 203.37, so I went through some digging, and oh my goodness! From just this month I found at least a dozen unconstructive / questionable edits from that /23 range that have sat unnoticed by other editors for days, even weeks! Definitely quite a problem here. The rate of disruption from this range is very high - like 20-30 or so of them, every day. The ratio of bad edits is very high too - like maybe 7% of the edits are constructive? So I'm wondering if we could place a long-term block here maybe. I've reported this range to AIV four hours ago but it's sat there unnoticed while dozens of other reports get actioned upon. I came across this tidbit which suggests it may be used by schools (or at least some users of the range are schools).

Thanks! — AP 499D25  (talk)  07:46, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Blocked, thanks ... just wow! Graham87 (talk) 08:15, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You seem to have blocked 70,000 of Telstra's IPs in Melbourne East. When it comes to IPv6 you have blocked almost all Telstra's IPs in Victoria.
 * What is the justification to block such a huge range of Australians and specifically clients of the largest Telco in the country? Akhoondemorde (talk) 05:47, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Persistent long-term abuse. This sort of thing is only done as a last resort. Graham87 (talk) 05:49, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

June music
Today's story is about the TFA, by sadly missed Vami_IV. In my support in 2018, I hoped to do justice to Schloss Köthen next - which I will begin today, finally, promised. Its Bachsaal was pictured to begin this year year. For more related thoughts and music, look on my talk for 1 June. - The image shows flowers of one rosebush - show your mother - that grew in Bingen, right across the Rhine from Rüdesheim; its Museum am Strom, partly dedicated to Hildegard of Bingen, has another copy of her statue by Karlheinz Oswald. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:34, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sounds great ... we're just back from the Berlin Musical Instrument Museum, where as part of a guided tour for the blind I set up, among other things I got to play a fortepiano, a portative organ, a clavichord, and a two-manual harpsichord! Graham87 (talk) 14:15, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * ... wow! - which sound did you like? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:17, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I liked them all for different reasons. I now have a new admiration for fortepiano players ... those instruments are ridiculously sensitive! Graham87 (talk) 14:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I bet you are also heading for the Leipzig Museum. - Enjoy today's story, related to my topic of the year: 300 years Bach's chorale cantatas, and the first was written for today. The music opens with a French overture for a chorale fantasy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Maybe, it's on the list of possibilities ... I've heard it's not as interactive though ... and we've also been to the one in Brussels, featuring recordings of many of the instruments there. Cool re Bach cantata! Graham87 (talk) 08:17, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I remember our visit (Chor St. Martin) in 2008, with an excellent woman explaining. But of course we relied less on sounds. Perhaps they offer individual tours for people who rely on ears and touch, not eyes? - The personal treatment in Rüdesheim was exceptional! I uploaded a few pics of your visit, - show your dear mother, and ask if she wants to be seen as well. Franz Kafka died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:35, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Their website doesn't say so ... but I'm happy with my instrument traipsing in Brussels, Berlin, and of course Rüdesheim (and I'll be doing more in Freiberg with its cathedral and its organs. Mum says she doesn't mind re putting photos of her up. I'll send her some links to your photos when I can (my computer doesn't have a monitor here). I'll get access to the photos we took on mum's phone when we get back to Australia. Graham87 (talk) 16:38, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Aha, found it. Graham87 (talk) 16:43, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * More specifically User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024 (or "places" below the monthly pic, or enter whatever date you are interested in, in the short version, day + 3-letter-month). For your mum's pic: would you - for educational purposes that the Commons should serve - prefer turning the barrel organ or lunch? Or both? - I will have to learn to extract an image from the video at Eibingen Abbey. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I found the Mendelssohn House in Leipzig very impressive. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Cool, that was on our shortlist. Re images: probably the barrel organ. :-) Graham87 (talk) 05:55, 4 June 2024 (UTC)


 * here you go ;) - Perhaps we could start the article by a few sentences in Rüdesheim? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:25, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * There's a bit about it at Rüdesheim am Rhein. :-) Graham87 (talk) 06:31, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * then we start with a redirect --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:42, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * ... and Rüdesheim has an interlanguage link (now) to the substantial article about the building Brömserhof, which has more about the museum, - some day when people stop dying, today's article is an actor, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:53, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Passion day, I believe? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Nope, that's tomorrow. Today we're doing a guided tour about Bach in general. However, I just found the program for the organ concert in Freiberg on Monday, and the organ will certainly be put through its paces! Graham87 (talk) 07:26, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The St Matthew Passion performance was beyond amazing ... the final chorus almost made me melt, and that takes a lot. The world's best baroque music performers (mostly Collegium 1704, among others in the original performance venue [([St. Thomas Church, Leipzig]]) ... couldn't ask for any more than that! Graham87 (talk) 21:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That's great!! - I usually melt when the orchestra begins the first chorus. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Earlier today we had an amazing time at a concert of the early music ensemble Capella de la Torre, featuring music from Luther to Bach ... it was fascinating hearing all those instruments live. And the encore was what is known in English as Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring! Graham87 (talk) 14:37, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That sounds great. The encore is from Bach's Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben, BWV 147 which is one I performed. Not so (yet) Ach Gott, vom Himmel sieh darein, BWV 2, written for this Sunday in 1724, see story. Interesting church music today, sung by the Martinis chamber choir (the pieces with a composer). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Wow ... the opening of BWV 2 in particular is a treat, and it was part of today's concert program as well! Graham87 (talk) 15:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * We've just had a great time on the organ trip to Freiberg, the home of Gottfried Silbermann, one of the greatest organ-builders of the 18th century! We got to hear two Silbermann organs live ... a brilliant concert, particularly the Bach pieces (see above link for the program)! We went to Silbermann House (his old workshop), where I plade on the model organ. We also learnt about Bach's investments in a silver mine in the area (which helped pay the miners' salaries and never made a profit, like most mining investments in those days), including a lecture on the subject (which was interpreted in English) by Eberhard Spree, who has written academic papers about it. That'll probably be our last concert for this trip, unfortunately, but I'll let you know if there are any more. Graham87 (talk) 17:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * How impressive! The organ of the Frauenkirche, Dresden was a Silbermann, until the church - like most of Dresden was destroyed by the bombing. It was not restored, - see Samuel Kummer. - Today I wanted to write a happy song story, on a friend's birthday, but instead we have the word of thunder on top of it, which would have been better on 2 June, this year's first Sunday after Trinity. The new lilypond - thanks to DanCherek - is quite impressive. As my 2 Jun story said: Bach was fired up. - Today's Main page is rich in music, also Franz Liszt and a conductor. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:09, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Not good, re the destroyed Silbermann organ or re Samuel Kummer's death. We just had a great time at the Bach Museum ... the accessibility was amazing, even better than it said on their website, with Braille/diagrams/audio of almost everything! Including excellent music, of course. While we were there we overheard a bit of a tour conducted by the director of the Bachfest, Michael Maul ... I know this because he was talking about his discovery of the Bach piece Alles mit Gott und nichts ohn' ihn, BWV 1127, but I didn't fully figure out the connection until just now. Graham87 (talk) 16:35, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Interesting! - Today is "the day" for James Joyce, also for Bach's fourth chorale cantata (and why does it come before the third?) - the new pics have a mammal I had to look up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:07, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * New pics of food and flowers come with the story of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by Brian Boulton. I nominated Éric Tappy because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated another women for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Wow interesting re Noye's Fludde. There was a production of that opera when I was a kid in primary school in Perth. Everyone in my class was invited to audition; only one boy got in (not me), but we learnt a couple of the pieces from it in the process. Graham87 (talk) 20:42, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Interesting! - Today we have a centenarian story (documentation about it by Percy Adlon) and an article that had two sentences yesterday and was up for deletion, and needs a few more citations. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Today is a feast day for which Bach composed a chorale cantata in 1724 (and we had a DYK about it in 2012). Can't believe that Jodie Devos had to die, - don't miss her video from the Opéra-Comique at the end, - story to come. The weekend brought plenty of music sung and listened to, and some of it is reflected in the last two stories! + pics of good food with good company --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That's awful re Jodie Devos ... far too young! On a slightly brighter note, the video of her that you mentioned is the first I've ever encountered where my screen reader can actually read the subtitles for me while the video is going, using special scripts. Hearing Carmen's Habanera that way is very interesting. Not to mention that she had a beautiful voice ... Graham87 (talk) 15:20, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, good to know. Only the Habanera, that's the next artist in the set ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've emailed you the photos you asked for. Or at least, I hope they got through ... Graham87 (talk) 05:11, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Beautiful, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Long Island Expressway
This editor has done over a hundred category changes. Do you need a hand reverting them? — Iadmc  ♫ talk  17:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, if you want you can help ... but I think I've gotten most of them and I'm dealing with the residue of my mass-rollback (i.e. these edits). Not all can or should be undone due to subsequent changes. Graham87 (talk) 18:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * OK. Good spot by the way! — Iadmc  ♫ talk  18:02, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Not what I was expecting to find on my watchlist today, but these things happen ... Graham87 (talk) 18:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed. I just had to revert vandalism to List of female billionaires (from the Recent changes). Easy in this case but annoying — Iadmc  ♫ talk  18:09, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Czech male composers
Hi @Graham87, I'm confused about your claims of "ghettoization" and the American women novelists issue. As far as I'm aware, various categories are split into male and female, so how is this different, and if we are no longer splitting, why does the category still exist? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 13:56, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * They've not exactly been split but the female/male categories run parallel to them. See for example Category:German composers as another example. Graham87 (talk) 14:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Graham87, I don't understand what you mean. Why include both the broader category (Czech composers) and the narrower one in the same article? That seems to go against everything I've ever seen, where only the subcategory is included. Can you link me to the MOS guideline that mentions this? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * They're not the norm, indeed ... they're known as non-diffusing subcategories. Graham87 (talk) 14:11, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Graham87, ok, now it makes sense. So are all gendered subcategories non-diffusing? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, pretty much, as it says at the page I linked. I don't know exactly where the exceptions are though. Graham87 (talk) 14:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks for explaining, and sorry for being belligerent. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 15:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * No worries; all good. Graham87 (talk) 15:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Harmful algal bloom
Per my superficial quick look, those looked like relevant references that replaced several cn tags. More of just an FYI. I'll be gone until June 17th and I don't know the full story nor did I do a more in depth look. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 19:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If you want to do a more in-depth look (or at least more in-depth than that user could have possibly done given their rapid rate of editing) and put them back at some point, be my guest. I've opened a SPI. Some of their edits seemed OK; some ... really ... weren't. Graham87 (talk) 19:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Cool. North8000 (talk) 19:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

was I supposed to give the admins I pinged a notice also?
having a moment of doubt. Asking you in particular because you're the first to react to the ping. Thanks Elinruby (talk) 14:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. I don't think I have anything worth adding to the request though, beyond what I said at the ANI. Graham87 (talk) 20:44, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * nod, it was intended as a courtesy ping, but then I had doubts about procedure. Thanks for the answer. Elinruby (talk) 20:47, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

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