User talk:Gran2/Archive 7

WPHP Goals
I've posted some goals for WikiProject Harry Potter on the improvement page for this year. Feel free to add and comment! -- Glimmer721  talk  23:30, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Bart Simpson
Hi

This is to let you know that I've started a discussion at Talk:Bart Simpson that you may be interested in.--5 albert square (talk) 00:04, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

And as suddenly as it started, the debate has ended. The editor will be back some day, and will probably have either some similar "confirmation", or possibly gotten a response from Pietela. However, I think anything less than confirmation from Groening, Brooks, or a high up member of the writing staff isn't sufficient. One of the biggest stories about the show is that Groening created and named the characters in 15 minutes outside Brooks' office (in his book, Ortved says the story is probably more complex than that, but that's besides the point), and that story has been re-iterated countless times over the years. It was certainly an odd discussion, as the user was making all kinds of assumptions and claims (ie. that Brooks just doesn't know as much). Either way, he REALLY wanted to say that Bart was originally named Mort. -- Scorpion0422 II (Talk) 00:51, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Warnings
Please make sure you warn vandals when you revert them. If you had warned the IP at David Mitchell (actor) for their first act of vandalism, they could have been blocked fro the second and there wouldn't have been a third. HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   21:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Meh. It's far quicker to just instantly revert the continuing vandalism than waste time warning. Gran2 21:47, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * And there's no vandalism to revert if the vandal is blocked, but I can't block them if they haven;t been warned. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   21:57, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Elitists
There were two discussions regarding the supposed non-importance of having Homer's Enemy as the TFA. I thought they might interest you. 

Why do people feel the need to insult us because we edit a topic they don't approve of? Okay, we aren't editing a scholarly topic, but who cares? Why do people feel the need to criticize us and say our work shouldn't be showcased, the same as everyone elses? It's pretty sad, really. -- Scorpion 0422  21:31, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jingle All the Way
The article Jingle All the Way you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Jingle All the Way for things which need to be addressed. Kollision (talk) 05:08, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jingle All the Way
The article Jingle All the Way you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Jingle All the Way for eventual comments about the article. Well done! Kollision (talk) 11:10, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Simon MacCorkindale
The article Simon MacCorkindale you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Simon MacCorkindale for eventual comments about the article. Well done! -- Hugahoody (talk) 20:07, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know that a community reassessment of the rather inadequate review by Hugahoody has been opened at Good article reassessment/Simon MacCorkindale/1. Jezhotwells (talk) 09:52, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm thrilled. Gran2 10:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

RE:Ronnie Barker
Hello, thanks for the message. I've had a go at expanding the opening a little, so I suspect it might have a good change at GAN now (GAs only really have to be "broad" in their references, as opposed to FA, which would probably require a little more) Bob talk 18:21, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the encouragement. I took the photo and wondered if it it would add to the article, but if it didn't somebody could always remove it. --Simon Speed (talk) 12:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

What source do you need?
Referring to Who Shot Mr. Burns but can be applied to any future edits. I can go dig up a snapshot if you want, otherwise, it's there. --69.109.44.88 (talk) 23:15, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Who thought Mixar was clever?
Like most recent episodes, it started okay, then fell quite quickly. It wasn't so much an episode as it was a bunch of minute-long one-off segments tied together with a loose plot. As for Maurice LaMarche, I have no idea who he voiced (possibly one of the rappers?). I'd have to watch the episode again (and I really don't want to do that). Was that Nick Park voicing the Wallace & Gromitt rip-off character? I thought he sounded quite a bit like Dan C. I must admit, the animation on the parodies was nicely done, even if they all went on far too long. -- Scorpion 0422  16:37, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


 * In regards to our new insider friend, he's been around wikipedia since September 2009. His user page says he speaks Croatian, most of his edits are to American TV shows or European football teams. He doesn't appear to have a history of editing Simpsons pages, so I'm not sure what to make of it. If he came out of nowhere and started adding this info, that's one thing. But, this user has been on wikipedia for a while and one day added some info that can't be sourced to anything (although, he added some writers/directors to the season 22 page in early February and those were mostly proven to be correct ). Either way, it's a moot point, because of the sourcing policy. But I am intrigued. -- Scorpion 0422  21:31, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

help would be greatly appreciated :)
Hi ! I am new to wiki so i hope I'm typing this in the right spot! I'm reaching out to other users for help. As I understand it, I need to track down an established wiki editor to help me rid the first article i've created ("Stone and Stone")of the ugly box that was posted on top "This article has multiple issues....".

I know exactly how these complaints came about. In my ignorance on how wiki works, I gave myself the same nickname as the subject I was writing on and then a whole drama ensued, as it was assumed that I was my subject and that I was writing an autobiography! In truth, I am a huge comedy fan and biographer and was dipping my toes for the first time in wikipedia waters!

Any help our solutions you could provide me when you get the chance would be greatly appreciated! This poor little article certainly doesn't deserve such an ugly heading box because of my wiki-ignorance! Thank you in advance for your time! Comedybiographer (talk) 10:28, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Happy Wiki Birthday
Happy five years! Thanks for editing! Mokapantages (talk) 21:36, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Simon MacCorkindale
Cheers. Gran2 14:48, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

FLC
Hey, if you have time could you weigh in here? A user asked me to, I will, but don't have much season FLC experience. Thanks, C T J F 8 3  00:34, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Phillip Hartman
You might be interested to know that Phil has been nominated for the Canadian Legends Award by Canada's Walk of Fame. It's essentially the same thing as getting a normal star, except that this category targets older deceased Canadians who are "Canadian pioneers in film, music, sports, arts and innovation." Apparantly being on television in the '90s makes one a pioneer. This is just my speculation, but I think they prefer their inductees to be able to attend the ceremony, so they only induct one posthumously every year and thus they get lumped into this category. Also nominated are: Rod Cameron, Lorne Green, Walter Huston, Al Waxman and Jeff Healey. If they are going by a vote, I think Hartman has a chance, but Healey is the best bet. -- Scorpion0422 II (Talk) 21:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for John Jympson
The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Homer Simpson, smiling politely
First, I thought this edit would amuse you. Also, the inductees for Canada's Walk of Fame will be announced June 28.

I have also been editing less these days, but I'm done for the summer, so my editing should pick up a bit. I agree with you that the project has been kind of lacking in new blood as of late. I think it's because we finished the season FT drives, and have already improved most of the more popular pages. So the ones left for improvement are tricker and involve more work, so newer users are hesitant to get involved. I think that sounds like a good idea, let me know when you would like to have some kind of meeting. -- Scorpion 0422  00:33, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Someone connected to Nancy Cartwright (probably her publicist again) has edited Nancy's page and removed a passage: --  Scorpion 0422  17:18, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, she has done it before. She previously wanted mentions of Scientology and her ex-husband removed, and the addition extended mention of her charitable activities. It was this that inspired me to clean up the article in the first place. I have to admit, I think this paragraph is a bit detailed. The line "Law enforcement stated, "There are no indications of foul play, and friends and relatives of Brackett said he was despondent because of financial troubles with his business"" could be interpreted as some that there were initially accusations of foul play on Cartwright's part. -- Scorpion 0422  17:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Girly Edition Re
Hi Gran! I would love to improve Girly Edition, but unfortunately, I'm pretty booked up myself, as I am trying to get each season 10 (only 4 left!) and 13 episode articles to GA. I'm sad to say that I don't have the time for it now, but after I'm done with season 10 and 13, I'll get to Girly Edition immediately. :) Queenieacoustic (talk) 19:53, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I added some stuff to the article! I might have time to do some more work on it soon. :) Theleftorium (talk) 23:21, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Feels good to be back! Theleftorium (talk) 10:52, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Main page appearance
Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on June 8, 2011. You can view the TFA blurb at Today's featured article/June 8, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article directors or his delegate, or at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! ۞  Tb hotch  ™  &  (ↄ),  Problems with my English?  17:18, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

 

Phil Hartman (1948–1998) was a Canadian-born American actor, comedian, screenwriter, and graphic artist. Born in Brantford, Ontario, Hartman and his family immigrated to the United States when he was ten. After graduating from California State University, Northridge with a degree in graphic arts, he designed album covers for bands such as Poco and America. Hartman joined the comedy group The Groundlings in 1975 and there helped comedian Paul Reubens develop his character Pee-wee Herman. Hartman co-wrote the screenplay for the film Pee-wee's Big Adventure and made recurring appearances on Reubens' show Pee-wee's Playhouse. Hartman became well-known in the late 1980s when he joined the sketch comedy show Saturday Night Live. He won fame for his impressions, particularly of President Bill Clinton, and stayed on the show for eight seasons. In 1995, after scrapping plans for his own variety show, he starred as Bill McNeal in the NBC sitcom NewsRadio. On May 28, 1998, Hartman was shot and killed by his wife while he slept in their California home. In the weeks following his death, Hartman was celebrated in a wave of tributes. Dan Snierson of Entertainment Weekly opined that Hartman was "the last person you'd expect to read about in lurid headlines in your morning paper ... a decidedly regular guy, beloved by everyone he worked with". (more...)

Phil Hartman
I'm actually not the same user that made the edit (we're on a shared IP), but I agree with the edit. "The pair" is singular, just like "the team" or "the civilization". Therefore "the pair was" is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.225.107.17 (talk) 15:43, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Jokes - can they be referenced?
So after just responding to you my talk page, I thought about one of the points I made, about how one could possibll cite the "getting it" goal of a joke. I searched for the first joke I could think of that would likely have its own page, and succeeded with The Aristocrats (joke). I read all the material in the Notes and none of it explained the idea of the joke as it was explained [accurately] in the article. This is my point about references to jokes, that those who get it all get it equally in quantity and quality and those that don't don't. If someone had heard about The Aristocrats or the joke itself but did not get it and was too embarrassed to ask or something of that nature, reading the wikipedia article on it would do a job of explaining it. Even though it's unsourced, it's accurate. And if there were someone explaining it, would that make it a source -- or just that person's opinion/orginal research? This reminds me of the Sarah Palin and Paul Revere controversy a few weeks ago. I don't know how familiar you may be with what happened as I see that you're British, but she made up some gibberish about a Revolutionary War hero and was widely lampooned in the media for not knowing what seven-year-olds here can readily tell you. BUT, because her version was disseminated through the media, her supporters came to the Paul Revere wikipedia page and instead of making a note to the controversy, decided to change the very basis of the article and the man's life history -- because they claimed to have credible sources: CNN, New York Times, etc. Obviously credible sources, yet in this case they were reporting on an opinion itself. Sorry that was a big long of a tangent, but that's what I'm saying about what happens when you rely on sources too heavily, not everything can be found in a peer-reviewed academic journal (and even then, it might not be reliable, see: The Sokal Affair), and the majority of these sources are just people's opinions. So, if some comic explains the comedy behind The Aristocrats, is it a source or is it his opinion or his original research or what? Long and the short of it, I don't think jokes can be cited to references explaining them, and the pun in the title of an episode of the Simpsons is a lot more substantial/important to the article than a random bit of unsourced Trivia which could be found on the IMDb page, but would not belong in the wikipedia article. Again, thank you for not removing the item again. JesseRafe (talk) 14:10, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Good news?
A free image of Julie Kavner? I've never been good with figuring out licences, so I'm not sure. It's not the most flattering image (and she looks kind of like Yeardley Smith, but I'm pretty sure its Julie), but it's better than nothing (here's another image of four cast members, it could also be useable). The user has more here, but he labels one guy as Harry Shearer, but I'm almost positive it's actually Dan Castellaneta. -- Scorpion 0422  03:38, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I did some research, and I can confirm that it's actually Dan Castellaneta. And that is Julie Kavner. The image of the four of them together would be great to have (if it's free). -- Scorpion 0422  03:47, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I've uploaded an image of Julie and an image of the four cast members (file:Simpsons voice actors.jpg, which isn't very high quality. Perhaps someone good with images can improve it). There are also images of Matt Groening, James L. Brooks and Kelsey Grammer in there, do you think any are worth grabbing? -- Scorpion 0422  14:59, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

The list of this years inductees for Canada's Walk of Fame was announced, and once again no Phil Hartman. The Canadian legends Award winner was Mordecai Richler. -- Scorpion 0422  16:06, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Sam Simon
Great job! Very nice article, good luck with the nom. :) But should the Daniel Schorn quote really be in the lead? Theleftorium (talk) 12:20, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I see! By the way, this doesn't seem to make sense: "Simon was hired as a writer, becoming showrunner by the age of 23." Simon must have been 23 in 1978, so either the birth date is wrong or he's lying about his age? Theleftorium (talk) 13:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Yep, definitely. :/ I shouldn't protect the page or give him/her a block since I'm involved. Are you reporting him, or should I? Theleftorium (talk) 21:31, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed. But I'm not sure we have the energy to fix it... And I'm getting sick of IPs and new members ruining the GAs with unsourced information and unnecessary plot details. I had to clean up at least 40 articles after getting back to Wikipedia last month. It's quite irritating. :/ Theleftorium (talk) 22:11, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Nah, let him work on those articles. They need the work. But I'll try to clean up a few every week this summer, if you can do that list! Theleftorium (talk) 22:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, thanks! Theleftorium (talk) 23:03, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Celtic F.C. task force
Hello, you stated that you were a fan of Celtic F.C. in your WikiProject football members support section. I am hoping to start up a task force for Celtic at WikiProject Football. If you are interested please reply here. Thanks. Adam4267 (talk) 12:28, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Simpson family
Apparantly, an incomplete family tree that adds little is essential to the article. A user keeps adding it and is demanding I discuss it with him, but he's been quite rude, so I have no desire to oblige him. Besides, I know what he'll say (just leave it. It's useful. How else would we know who is related to who?).

What do you think? -- Scorpion 0422  00:58, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Apparently, I am rude for asking Scorpion to read and respond to my comment on the talk page instead of reverting for the past 11 months. How rude of me. Canvassing is rude. You could have asked Gran for opinion without insulting me and in a neutral manner, as allowed by Wikipedia regulations. Surtsicna (talk) 15:49, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Stalking is also rude (and sorry for getting you dragged into this Gran). -- Scorpion 0422  16:43, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You linked me to Gran's page. How can it possibly be stalking? I too apologize, Gran, if these accusations on your talk page are causing you any distress. Surtsicna (talk) 17:41, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I've been trying to think of ways to expand the Works based on The Simpsons category. Do you think something like The Simpsons Ride or The Simpsons 20th Anniversary Special would count? I guess it depends on the definition of "based on". Do you just count third-party works (defining "based on The Simpsons" as being only works not associated with the official franchise), or do you include the Ride and merchandise like the comics and video games (defining "based on The Simpsons" as being works spun off from the TV show)?

Also, remember that Hustler movie that was being advertised (In all fairness, the guy who played Flanders was about as dead on as any person I've ever seen dressing as a Simpsons character)? It would be funny if someone created an article for it. -- Scorpion <sup style="color:black;">0422  18:48, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I did a quick google search, and there isn't as much as I remembered. When it was first released there were a bunch of news stories, but now I can't find most of them. -- Scorpion <sup style="color:black;">0422  21:40, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I like the idea, but I'm not sure if we could pull of such a page. We might be able to make it into a list (ie. By having a table with each season having a row), but then we run into the problem of notability (most would question the necessity of a page for such a specific position). If we could put together an article that explains the job, how it differs from other shows and (most importantly) the prestige of the position, then it might work (of course, finding such sources is easier said than done). -- Scorpion <sup style="color:black;">0422  22:07, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * That's great, thanks! I'm just gonna finish this article and then I'll improve some of those older GAs, I promise. ;) Theleftorium (talk) 21:51, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I noticed your nice improvements to 'Round Springfield. Are you thinking of merging/redirecting Cheese-eating surrender monkeys to that article? Theleftorium (talk) 15:52, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I see! If you don't mind, I'll use some of the sources you found and what you have already written to improve Cheese-eating surrender monkeys? I'll try to get it up to at least C-class. Theleftorium (talk) 16:04, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've "finished" the article now. But do you know if the commentary mentions anything more about the phrase, other than it being written by Ken Keeler? Theleftorium (talk) 21:19, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! I added that to the article. Theleftorium (talk) 22:35, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! It's taken a bit longer than I thought (she's appeared in a lot of crap stuff), but it'll be done soon, I just need to make some finishing touches. :) Theleftorium (talk) 21:40, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I completely agree! He/she even changed a quote from Marcia. I'm just surprised Marcia still has an agent, since she's been rather inactive for several years. I'll do a partial revert though since a few of the edits were good. (And the removal of my mention of State University of New York at Purchase was probably accidental, since I made that edit in-between her edits). Theleftorium (talk) 09:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ron Taylor (actor)
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File:Ron Taylor Twin Peaks.jpg
The bot has tagged File:Ron Taylor Twin Peaks.jpg as lacking source information even though it has source information. See the 'Source' field: "Screenshot from Twin Peaks DVD. Show produced by Lynch/Frost Productions, Propaganda Films and Spelling Television." Is this inadequate? Am I doing something wrong? Gran2 22:14, 14 August 2011 (UTC)


 * You used a navbox template to organize the file's information. Since navboxes are only supposed to be used for navigation between articles, the bot ignores their content when checking for an image source.  If you want the bot to see the image's source, you should use either an Information template or one of the non-free rationale templates.  You can also place the source information outside of any template, but I feel that templates do a better job of organizing things. --Carnildo (talk) 21:29, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Right, okay, I'll change the template and remove the tag. Thanks. Gran2 21:32, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Have you seen this?
and ? There's enough information to write a massive production section for Sweet Seymour Skinner's Baadasssss Song, but I don't really have the energy for that. ;) Theleftorium (talk) 13:30, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Heh, cool! When/if I work on any episodes of seasons 11–20 I'll let you know so you can check if there's anything useful! Theleftorium (talk) 20:29, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Good Article promotion

 * And Josh Weinstein too! Well done. – Quadell (talk) 18:40, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Simon MacCorkindale
Hi, and thanks for your message. As I wrote in the review itself, I hope that my comments don't come across as unnecessarily and excessively harsh. Well done for expanding the article into the comprehensive biography that it is now; it was still very interesting to learn about MacCorkindale's early life and career (prior to the review, I only really knew him for Casualty and Jaws 3-D!) It's just that I feel that the article could benefit from some re-ordering and re-structuring for focus. The references seem solid enough to me - at any rate, the article seems to draw heavily on interviews with MacCorkindale, so those are strong primary sources. Certainly broad in its coverage. It definitely has the potential to reach GA status. Regards,  Super Mario  Man  22:51, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Ronnie Barker
Sorry, my mistake -- I misunderstood WP:MOS on (not) fact-tagging ledes. Thanks for pointing it out. Rms125a@hotmail.com

User:Northamerica1000
Hi. Could you keep an eye on this user. I'm going away for the weekend, so I can't help. It seems like he doesn't like episode GA's and will fail the articles if he just finds one problem. --Maitch (talk) 12:54, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've just opened Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents. Please comment there. Viriditas (talk) 13:19, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Newsbank
Hi Gran. Do you guys still use Newsbank or is Google News Archive sufficient these days? I've have lost my Newsbank login information while I've been away, so I was wondering if you could mail it to me. --Maitch (talk) 14:33, 5 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Season 1 doesn't look too good either. I am going to see what I can do. I think we need to do this before someone with an anti pop culture attitude starts mass tagging the episode articles for GAR. --Maitch (talk) 15:06, 5 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I think WP:DOH has a lot of good will these days based on our previous effort. That combined with the fact that our episode articles are hardly the worst on Wikipedia by a long shot, gives us a bit more time than other TV shows to improve these articles. This is great, but it won't last forever. --Maitch (talk) 15:49, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Why?
Hi there, did you deliberately revert the BLP sources to BLPunreferenced with this edit? If so why, especially when you also added a second ref to the one I had just added? We are nearing the end of the great WP:URBLP/WP:URBLPR backlog reduction drive, so we don't need to waste time going back over ones we've already cleared. Regards, The-Pope (talk) 14:15, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

H. Azaria
Believe it or not, I was somehow able to find the exact page just by opening the book to a random spot. That's lucky. The page in my copy is 95 (I think it's the American edition as well, so you can use the book citation used in other articles).

In other news, a Futurama actor FINALLY won an Emmy for voice acting. Although Billy West is still looking for one, Maurice LaMarche took the award. Futurama also won the animated series Emmy. -- Scorpion <sup style="color:black;">0422  16:48, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * So this year the show didn't win an Emmy, Annie or WGA Award. In fact, as best as I can tell, the only award they won this year was a People's Choice Award, and that was for "Favorite Family" and not episode content. That might be a first. Maybe Al Jean will stop touting their "awards success" as a reason why the show is better than ever. - Scorpion <sup style="color:black;">0422  17:12, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Re: Ratings
Thanks. It was extremly hard to find reliable sources, so I'm glad I was able to complete it. I do believe that a top 10 chart would be possible. I just recently added ratings to all the episodes that missed it from season 1 to 10, so it wouldn't be hard to continue all the way up to season 22 (although it would be very time consuming). --Maitch (talk) 22:28, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Also, I don't know if any episodes beat "Bart Gets an F". There was one episode which aired as lead-out to a Super-Bowl. That would be a good guess. --Maitch (talk) 22:41, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Nice source. I think I said something about making an article about the music five years ago, but I abandoned it because I couldn't find enough sources. I am in the process of completing the old ideas I had before I took my long break, so I might take a stab at it later. --Maitch (talk) 10:24, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for fixing my mistake. It looks like I have to be very careful when using the ProveIt tool.--Maitch (talk) 14:05, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I definitely prefer the present structure. I don't like it when bios jump in time, like in Conan O'Briens article. I have seen both styles being used on WP, so I think it is up to the editor. --Maitch (talk) 05:08, 24 September 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem. I would like to add that if you pick the current version, then I would recommend that you add year ranges to your section titles.
 * Unrelated, it seems like Mark Kirkland is writing his own article. --Maitch (talk) 05:04, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

I like the current version more. I prefer reading bios in chronological order. By the way, that image that Kirkland added probably can't be used since there's no evidence that the photographer has released the image. Theleftorium (talk) 11:15, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Re Azaria
Yeah you're right, the image fails WP:NFCC. If anything, a voice sample should be used. Theleftorium (talk) 13:50, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi! Can you see if there's anything useful in the season 1-20 episode guide about The Mansion Family, and if so, add it to the article? Thanks, Theleftorium (talk) 13:23, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That's okay, I won't have time to work on the article this week anyway! Theleftorium (talk) 17:50, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Official site link
I programmed AutoWikiBrowser to semi-automatically fix all the remaining links, so you don't have to do that tedious work. If there are any other similar jobs I can do, let me know. I might go ahead and apply for my own bot. --Maitch (talk) 21:17, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Pirates of Penzance reference on Deep Space Homer
Thanks for the catch, I didn't even think that SNPP would be considered a fansite and therefore ineligible. I have replaced the sentence but I was able to track down a proper book source and have used that as the new ref which I believe more than meets the criteria needed to count as credible. Let me know if that is sufficient or not, if not I'll keep looking. Cat-five - talk 23:13, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

David Mirkin
Hi Gran, I've begun a GA review on the article you nominated. Cheers!--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 02:04, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Copyedited per request. Hope it helps! Paul M. Nguyen (chat&#124;blame) 00:49, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Something to improve your writing
Hello, I saw your request for a CE at the GOCE request page, so I thought you might be interested to know that Strunk and White's The Element of Style (1918) is in the public domain, free for you to download. Hopefully it'll help improve your writing. Cheers, and Merry Christmas :) --Sp33dyphil ©hat<sub style='position: relative; left: -1.5em;'>ontributions 11:56, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Blame It on Lisa
Hi! :) Does that seasons 1-20 guide book have anything that could be worth including in Blame It on Lisa? Any cultural references? The commentary pretty much just talks about the controversy unfortunately... Theleftorium (talk) 20:02, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There wasn't much, but 'tis done. I'm sure you can find a more elegant way of phrasing them. Gran2 20:23, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That's great, thank you! Theleftorium (talk) 20:28, 27 December 2011 (UTC)