User talk:Granarian

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Bristol
Hello Middayexpress,

Thanks for your recent contribution to the demographics section of the Bristol page, where I note that on two separate occasions you've removed statements to the effect of: "At 1.2%, [Bristol] has the highest proportion of Somali-born residents of any city in the country and of any local authority outside of London, and the third-highest Somali-born population in absolute terms of any city (after London and Birmingham)." Since this statement seems to be supported by the 2011 Census source I supplied I'm keen to know why you've considered it inaccurate. If I've overlooked why this information is incorrect then I apologise. Many thanks. Granarian (talk) 03:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Granarian. The passage was inaccurate because Bristol does not actually have the highest proportion of Somali-born residents of any city in the country. Per that link, London has a significantly higher Somali-born population. The placement of the assertion immediately behind ethnicity categories was also problematic since the link itself does not parse the figures through these categories. Even if the passage as a whole had been correct, it would still have made more sense to highlight the city's Polish constituency, as it has a higher number of local representatives both in proportionate and absolute terms. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 14:29, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Middayexpress,


 * Thanks for your prompt response. Per the link I provided, London has a (massively) higher absolute population of Somali-born residents (as does Birmingham), which I noted in my original edit. But at 1.2%, Bristol has the highest percentage of Somali-born citizens as a proportion of its own population of any city (and of any local authority apart from several London boroughs) compared to London's 0.8% (Leicester is also higher at 1.0%) and 0.2% across England and Wales. Although you're correct that Bristol's Polish-born population is higher than its Somali-born population, there are dozens of towns and cities with higher percentages of Poles and many with higher absolute numbers of Poles (Bristol's 1.5% compares to 1.0% across England and Wales). In this sense Bristol is much more unusual as a centre of Somali population than it is as a centre of Polish population. I'm happy to place this as distinct from the ethic groups (and reword it since it obviously wasn't clear what I was addressing) but I think the essential point is both true and notable enough to be in there. Kind regards, Granarian (talk) 16:01, 28 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Granarian. Bristol's Polish population is indeed not unusual in the sense that there are large Polish communities throughout the UK. However, both in proportionate and in absolute terms, it is the largest foreign-born group in the city; so that's probably what should be highlighted. Also, the other link (which pointed to the wrong url) doesn't give proportionate totals for the ethnicity categories. The assertion that the local Asian population is relatively small is therefore unsupported. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 16:46, 28 December 2013 (UTC)