User talk:Great.Demon.King

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Speedy deletion nomination of BerryGood


A tag has been placed on BerryGood requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:39, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Notability
What the Chinese Wikipedia do is irrelevant here. We insist on notability now, not in the future. Please see WP:BAND, and also WP:RS about the reliable independent sources needed to prove it. Getting to be notable is up to the group, and we are not here to help with that. Having an English language Wikipedia page is not a step on the way to fame. It's something that comes after the fame is achieved. Peridon (talk) 17:44, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

I know it's not up to Wikipedia to promote anyone, but I find it hard to see what defines notability for Wikipedia. This is a group that has hundreds of thousands of listeners and that is not enough yet you have articles about YouTubers that have barely half of that. This group already has recognition. Also the idea of "what the Chinese Wikipedia do is irrelevant" is a pretty narrow view of the world. I guess "notability" in the end comes down to what Americans choose to consume.
 * Please sign talk page posts with ~ to put your sig and the datestamp on. Thanks. Don't get the idea that the English language is the American Wikipedia. I'm a Brit for a start, and we have a lot of others here. There are Indian admins, Italian ones, German ones, and others I can't remember. And that's just admins. The rules and procedures are different across the 250 or so different languages of Wikipedia. Even things like 'speedy deletion' have different procedures. I have tagged an article on the French Wikipedia for deletion (successfully, the reason being a follow up to a deletion here), but I wouldn't know how to on the German WP. I've edited on about 20 different WPs; a lot has been linking, but sockpuppet investigating has taken me to three different languages, and I've made edits to articles. So, I'm hardly the closed mind Yank that you thought. Read those policies. Without those, no chance. And there are YouTubers who are notable. I don't go on YouTube at all, but I've heard of Smosh. We also even have an article about a bus shelter on a Scottish island, but there are million dollar turnover American companies without articles. It's all down to coverage. Peridon (talk) 20:25, 24 August 2015 (UTC) (which was ~ when I typed it)