User talk:Greatsouthbay

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Southern State Parkway
H i, why would you knowingly and willingly violate consensus on Southern State Parkway? I have reverted your change, and hope you will not re-revert without an attempt to change (and suceed at changing) consensus. Best,  R OBERT M FROM LI  TALK/CNTRB 04:11, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Apologies if I (and Twinkle) reverted too much. If you like, I can try to re-integrate any other changes you made, or feel free to do so yourself. Let me know. Best,  R OBERT M FROM LI  TALK/CNTRB 04:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Please revert any other changes. Thank you. Greatsouthbay (talk) 05:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


 * It seems I may have misread the timestamp... I will re-edit the page to change the edit summary to something more appropriate. This should have been a notice letting you know that I have reverted to the agreed upon spelling per consensus. Sorry. R OBERT M FROM LI  TALK/CNTRB 04:23, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I accept your apology. Thank you. I'm glad that you dealt with it as quickly as you did. However, now I need you to go to the article's discussion page and retract what you said, with an full explanation that completely exonerates me of your false accusation, in no uncertain terms. Greatsouthbay (talk) 05:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Ethnicity is not race
Combining race & ethnicity adds to more than 100% -- in some cases MUCH more. The subject of the section is demographics, but the subject of that particular sentence is race. The source (US Census) separates ethnicity & race. I guess we do need a 3rd party opinion.--JimWae (talk) 02:12, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

When the 3rd party is the census documentation itself, it's hard to see how anyone could attempt to present the data otherwise: According to http://factfinder.census.gov/home/en/epss/glossary_e.html "Ethnic groups This discussion of ethnic groups applies to both Census 2000 and the American Community Survey 2004 and later years, unless otherwise stated. For detailed information about race and ethnic groups see the technical documentation for each survey or census.

There are two minimum categories for ethnicity: Hispanic or Latino and Not Hispanic or Latino. The federal government considers race and Hispanic origin to be two separate and distinct concepts. Hispanics and Latinos may be of any race.

The responses in the 1990 census showed that the placement of the question on Hispanic origin may have contributed to some confusion about the federal government's distinction between race and ethnicity. In the 1990 census the question on race appeared before the question on Hispanic origin, with two intervening questions, and about 40% of the respondents who selected "Other Race" wrote in a Hispanic or Latino ethnicity. To highlight the distinction between race and Hispanic origin beginning with Census 2000, the question on race was placed after the question on Hispanic origin. Also, there was a note to respondents instructing them to answer both questions"

"Race: Race is a self-identification data item in which respondents choose the race or races with which they most closely identify."

I hope this makes it clearer to you that I am not "stupid" and I am not "imposing... [my] simplistic, naive, notion of what race is on these articles, and in what order they should be listed." Please also note that I took the time in several cases to correct numbers that had been vandalized. --JimWae (talk) 02:50, 27 December 2010 (UTC)