User talk:Grebarton

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The following material you inserted in the article Income tax has been removed:


 * However there have been cases where non-taxpayers have been found not guilty of paying their income tax due to the tax supposedly being illegal. This is due to the fact that a law cannot actually be found stating the law exists but it is merely enforced by the IRS and supported by the US government. In some cases judges have been known to verbaly tell jurors what the law is and jurors have made their decision based upon this however no written law has yet been proven or found stating amaerican citizens are required to pay income tax. One particular case supports this theory. On July 9, 2007, the Louisiana Federal Jury found Attorney Tommy Cryer not guilty of 2 counts of willful failure to file an income tax return. Tommy had not filed a 1040 Confession Form because he understood and believed that the law does not require Tommy to pay income taxes on his labor. This case was ruled based upon their being no written federal law requiring an american citizen to pay income tax even if the local law stated this was required, due to a link between local income tax laws and federal tax laws.


 * The income tax use has also come under suspicion as to where the money goes. It has been calculated that every cent of income tax is written off in expenses before it can be used in service of the taxpayers and is often linked to unsubstansiated funds, where money cannot be accounted for.

First, the removed material relates only to the U.S. Federal income tax. By contrast, the article relates to income tax world wide. The material is tax protester rhetoric. In Wikipedia, tax protester arguments are generally discussed in articles devoted to those arguments.

The statement -- "This is due to the fact that a law cannot actually be found stating the law exists but it is merely enforced by the IRS and supported by the US government" -- is blatantly false. This is typical tax protester rhetoric. Also, it is unsourced, which means that it violates the Wikipedia rule on Verifiability.

For example, in the Tommy Cryer case, Cryer's argument -- that there was no law imposing a Federal income tax -- was rejected by the court. This is already documented in the relevant article, by reference to the actual court record, available online (if you have a password to the PACER system). Cryer's case was a criminal case. Indeed, had Cryer been able to show that there was "no law," the judge would have granted Cryer's request to have the case thrown out. Instead, the case went to the jury, which found Cryer not guilty.

Saying that a jury acquittal in the Cryer case means there is no law imposing the Federal income tax on Cryer's income is like saying a jury acquittal in a murder case means there is no law against murder.

All this is covered in more detail in the applicable articles. Famspear 12:08, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

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The three most important concepts are Verifiability, Neutral Point of View, and No Original Research. Happy editing! Yours, Famspear 12:22, 29 September 2007 (UTC)