User talk:GreeneGiants

Water Rockets and Web Sites
A brand new editor pops up, goes straight to Water Rockets, and reverts a previous edit, then leaves with no further input on Wikipedia. Interesting. Well to answer your questions, although you probably already know the answers :-

Would you like me to provide you with a user ID on one of my systems so you can double check that observation?
 * This website is public. I just checked.

That action would be pointless under the circumstances
 * Have you sent an email to the domain's webmaster to request help before trashing this page?

Which one, IE7, Nescape7, Opera, Camino, Firefoix, Netscape 4.7, or Safari .. I have to use them all to test my software
 * Is your browser misconfigured?

I sit in the same room as the other three senior sys. admins responsible for the ESA Research Science servers, storage, and Web Services.
 * Maybe your employer has blocked access to hobby and other distracting sites with their firewall.

Thank you for your assistance. However, I resent the use of the expression "trashing" in relation to my edit on this page. I feel the language is somewhat extreme, especially since the edit was, and remains, valid.

The WRA2 website is generating a 403 error, and then compounding the 403 with another 403 when it tries to access the error page. This is typical of a badly constructed ban based on IP address. A 403 is an access forbidden error, and originates from the webserver, not the client. vis:-  Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache/1.3.33 Server at www.wra2.org Port 80

I have tested this site from my Grid proxy, my development server without a proxy, my local workstation, my DMZ webserver (and then again using wget), and my home server and they all receive a 403. I have also tested it using my mirror servers in Madrid, Garching and Baltimore, so I know whether it is a selective ban or a fault at my end.

Reading through the rest of the discussion histories both here and at Water_rocket you will see that on occasions I have made edits without logging in. On each occasion that a new IP address is made public, that IP address starts to get 403 errors. This has also happened to several other Water Rocket enthusiasts who dare to question WRA2's claims.

For your information, I am the Technical Webmaster and Web Services Administrator for the Research Science division of the European Space Agency, and have been running and coding web services since 1997, originally with Shell, but latterly with the ESA ... so yes, I actually do know what I was doing, and understand perfectly the implications behind what I was saying about the WRA2 site.

Radiotrib 14:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)