User talk:Greenjane

May 2012
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, but at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Silpat, did not appear to be constructive and has been automatically reverted (undone) by an automated computer program called ClueBot NG.
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 * The following is the log entry regarding this warning: Silpat was changed by Greenjane (u) (t) ANN scored at 0.908195 on 2012-05-07T20:35:37+00:00 . Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 20:35, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Silpat with this edit. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Keilana | Parlez ici 20:35, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Conflict of interest in Wikipedia
Hi Greenjane I work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia, along with my regular editing about health and medicine. Your edits to date look like paid editing. I'm giving you notice of our Conflict of Interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some comments and requests for you below.

We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, please:


 * avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your circle, your organization, its competitors, projects or products;
 * instead propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the request edit template);
 * when discussing affected articles, disclose your COI (see WP:DISCLOSE);
 * avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
 * exercise great caution so that you do not violate Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you.

Comments and requests
Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).

Disclosure is the most important, and first, step. While I am not asking you to disclose your identity (anonymity is strictly protecting by our WP:OUTING policy) would you please disclose if you have some connection with the Beljanskis, their company, Natural Source, the folks who invented or sell SierraSil, or Silmat? You can answer how ever you wish (giving personally identifying information or not), but if there is a connection, please disclose it. After you respond (and you can just reply below), perhaps we can talk a bit about editing Wikipedia, to give you some more orientation to how this place works. Please reply here - I am watching this page. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 21:46, 21 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Can you please explain your rationale for the words that you are changing the page to? What are you using as a reference?  You are also using the word pain which is an FDA violation.  I am going to revert this back and I would like to come to a consensus with you so we don't keep going back and forth.  I am an avid fan as is my family and pets and I feel you are doing this an injustice with your editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenjane  (talk • contribs) 23:07, 22 March 2016  (UTC)
 * We can discuss content on the article Talk page. That is what article Talk pages are for. I came here to ask you about connections with the folks who make SierraSil.  It is good to know you are a fan (and that is good to know, and something we can talk more about in a bit), but that is not a direct answer.  Would you please let me know if you have any connections with them?  (e.g. employee, contractor, PR firm representing them, etc).  Your discussion about the FDA here and above makes it appear as though you do have some connection.  I would be happy to address the FDA stuff directly (and I can!) but first would you please answer.  Thanks.  Also, it would be good if you stopped trying to fix the article while we work through these issues.  Once we finish there are something things you need to learn about how we source and edit content about health here in Wikipedia, and I would be happy to explain them to you.   Jytdog (talk) 23:34, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi there - I am aware of FDA just because I have been taking many, many supplements for many, many years (not going to disclose my age) lol. There is no conflict of interest here, just was checking out one of my favorite supplements and was a bit shocked at what it read on the page. Obviously with my lack of knowing how Wikipedia works, I am not a professional Wikipedia person! Greenjane (talk) 21:40, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying. To be frank, I don't find what you say to be credible based on your edits to date.  But we have reached a dead end, so I will let this go.  I work with editors with a COI all the time; having a COI is not a bar to being part of the editing community.
 * In any case, please note that if you establish a pattern of promotional editing that violates the WP:NPOV and WP:PROMO policies (those are policies) you can be subject to administrative action by an individual admin or the community. Jytdog (talk) 16:01, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

March 2016
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but using them for illegitimate reasons is not, and that any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page:.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  14:17, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm talking about this: .  Vanjagenije  (talk)  14:18, 25 March 2016 (UTC)