User talk:Greenthumb83

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Olearia obcordata
Hello Greenthumb83,

You have made many interesting additions to the page about Olearia obcordata, but the changes do not appear to be referenced. For example, you have listed "Flora of Australia" as the (only) reference for a description of the species, but there is no description of O. obcordata in that source. You have used the Atlas of Living Australia as the source for the statement, but there is no mention of those places or of any altitude in the source. Similarly, there is no mention of O. obcordata in the papers by Anderson, or Hoffman & others. The contents of section "Uses" is entirely unreferenced.

On the other hand, you deleted information that was derived from reliable sources.

I am desperately keen to have this article, and others about Australian native plants expanded, but everything must be referenced with a reliable source (WP:RS). I am also more than happy to help to get this article expanded. Please ask for help. I would be happy to respond. (You can ask here, or on my Talk Page.) Gderrin (talk) 05:41, 20 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi GDerrin,
 * Thanks for reaching out to me and I can see through your profile you have been very buys promoting our beautiful flora in Australia.
 * I understand your concerns and would appreciate some help to get further references to this species. To begin with, this listing was part of an University Ecology assignment where we had to update or create a new wikipage, and O. obcordata grows near me at Ben Lomond hence I choose this. I have collated this information from my own personal observations from photos and samples of this plant, and include the distribution map as it does clearly have the observations at the locations I mention, which are also above this altitude. Yes, this is not referenced but such references I could not find. The Flora of Aus, though not including this species, was more of a general reference to the typical traits of Asteraceae that this plant exhibits. The Anderson et al. paper was just to reference the dynamic nature of subalpine - alpine flora seem to respond to climate change.
 * In short, I had to write ~400 words for this and was obviously limited on what references were available to me in a set time, though the description and other sections were made from direct observations of the plant and it's distribution. Greenthumb83 (talk) 06:40, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Gderrin (talk) 05:41, 20 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Fantastic to get a reply!
 * Sorry if I've buggered your assignment. I mainly use the Australian Plant Name Index to find sources of information. As you can see, there's not much for this species - that's why I could only get enough material to write a "stub". (Your photos added value to the article and Commons though.)
 * I'm guessing you're in Tasmania? Here's a suggestion: This site is a list of Tasmanian endemics. Work through the list until you find a species that does not have a corresponding Wikipedia page. I found several species of Allocasuarina and Aristotelia that could do with expanding, correcting and updating the sources. Bedfordia linearis is ripe for expanding - heaps of references. (Don't forget the APNI.) I'll add an image of it to Commons. I'm very happy to help any way I can.

Gderrin (talk) 10:13, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Images here. Gderrin (talk) 10:29, 20 February 2023 (UTC)