User talk:Greyjoy/Archive 6

Can you help
= I Don't know you can help or not but I believe that honesty exists in many people, so I dare to ask help. Can you help to reopen the article, Zarb-e-Sukhan of Ehsan Sehgal which was dishonestly removed, while it had multiple authentic sources, even though, ill motives contributors removed that unfairly. I found it on Google search - https://en.wikiredia.com/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Zarb-e-Sukhan. Please save Wikipedia from such ones. Thanks. More links - https://books.google.com.pk/books/about/Zarb_e_Sukhan.html?id=4EefUUpSomMC&redir_esc=y

1- https://www.conservapedia.com/Zarb-e-Sukhan 2 - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41438543-zarb-e-sukhan 3 - Why Wikipedia removed this article of a notable person while it has multiple authentic sources, another encyclopedia has that. And also in the book, hundreds of reviews of the scholars and academics from around the world are included, no one any other book has that, is it not the ill-motives of bad contributors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.194.208.220 (talk) 06:37, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The article was changed into a redirect as per discussion here. Since this was a decision reached by consensus of users I will not be reverting this change. As a side note goodreads is not really a reliable source and conservapedia is the opposite of reliable.  Grey joy talk 06:48, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

thank, can you help to fix sources and language on Ehsan sehgal as we added text of this book. thanks sir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.194.208.220 (talk) 08:15, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, sir, I see the red lines in references/ sources, is it normal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.194.208.220 (talk) 13:08, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for bothering you, can you fix this - File:Ehsansehgalx.jpg image - to Zarb-e-Sukhan if it is possible? - Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.194.208.220 (talk) 13:29, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Broz Tito
I made this correction because the article's lead was disputed and I restored old version of sentence in neutral manner. There are guys who want to falsify history of brutal dictator Josip Broz Tito and related sources! You can see Talk:Josip Broz Tito/Archive 11. This old edit of user Peacemaker67 is not neutral because the sentence reports an opinion of single obscure historian and you can read user talk:Peacemaker67. I made just a correction but entire article is not neutral: can you look at that article? Regards--Forza bruta (talk) 15:07, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Please help to fix proper things
Please help to fix proper things and sources and move to main place this article,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Zarb-e-Sukhan_(Kulliyaat). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mediateamnews (talk • contribs) 15:42, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Murder of Deanna Criswell
Hi Could you look over this article? phrases such as "Criswell had been involved with him" don't adequately convey that what happened between Deanna and her suspected killer wasn't an actual romantic relationship of equals. Plus Wikipedia should avoid doing in our voice, however small, what the media has done and treating Knight as her boyfriend when her family has stated that they feel he was a predatory pedophile, given that he was in his thirties and she was sixteen. PAustin4thApril1980 (talk) 08:41, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , this is a bit of a tough one for me as I can see where you are coming from with this. From a quick look-over (from a Wikipedia point of view) I don't see how there is much that I can do on this occasion, we can only include what is reported in reliable sources so for me to rephrase parts of the article to change it from a "involved with" to "predatory pedophile" would require reliable sources stating as such, otherwise I believe it falls under editorialising or original research. This is just my opinion though and other editors may disagree.  Grey joy talk 08:51, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Name change update
Since the football team Acoustic Acoustic changed its name to Austin Sound, can you change the Austin Acoustic page name to "Austin Sound"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:1018:C8F8:7014:8329:8BC3:77FF (talk) 15:47, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Soundproofing page
Hi, ty Greyjoy!

I'm going to be contributing a bunch of content over the next couple weeks, theres a lot of misinformation. If you loop back around and see any terrible grammar, please feel free to change! 36N63 (talk) 08:32, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Reverting
Greyjoy, When reverting without proper reflection on the particulars, a normal wiki contributor induces a response as to why per Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Reverting compliance, namely "Before reverting> Consider carefully before reverting, as it rejects the contributions of another editor. Consider what you object to, and what the editor was attempting. Can you improve the edit, bringing progress, rather than reversion?" is not what you now suppressingly did to vital maliciousness awareness to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_bomb sending a generally prepped auto-response: "Hello, I'm Greyjoy. I wanted to let you know that one or more external links you added to Zip bomb have been removed because they seemed to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thank you. Greyjoy talk 10:54, 25 February 2020 (UTC)" denoting total nothing to help contributing actual, especially appropriate for this specific https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_bomb article, real and last but not to the nearest extend least extremely important, vital and alerting content. Thank you but no.
 * I am going to respond to this brick of text as best I can. As per External links we try and avoid adding external links in the body of articles, as I mentioned in my edit summaries. It is certainly a bad idea to place links to active decompression bombs on Wikipedia.  Grey joy talk 11:35, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Unprecedented (inclusive of over 10 years of contribution) censorship. I was thinking of adding your greyjoy@gmail.com email to my 'friends' list but your brick profile doesn't seem very trustworthy, especially after I initiated this talk mentioning the appropriate steps per Wikipedia (or encyclopedic writing in common) compliance first! It certainly is a made up (as you refer these evaluated dangers to) 'idea' to revert such alerting matter and edit without reasoning in first place acting as an all things governer, unsuit per User_talk:Greyjoy talk page freshness. Are you sure you are Greyjoy or someone posing as a true Wikipeadian plus maybe you are the Wikipedia owner?  Ivs 5982 talk 11:35, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * First of all greyjoy@gmail.com is not my email, this is just the name I use on Wikipedia. I have explained the reasoning behind the revering of your additions and linked to the appropriate Wikipedia guidelines for external links. I am not even going to waste time responding to accusations of being not-Greyjoy or "the owner" of Wikipedia.  Grey joy talk 05:14, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

3 Medical Regiment
Good morning,

I am trying to update the 3 Medical Regiment page to make it accurate as of today.

Can you let me know if there is a significant reason I am unaware of as to why it cannot be corrected?

Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnno884 (talk • contribs) 11:35, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , may I ask if you are connected to the regiment in any way?  Grey joy talk 11:37, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes I am the Media Officer and have recently updated the Army Website as well. I need to ensure that the Regt's online presence is accurate. I understand that there are policies about this, but how else can I correct the information contained within the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnno884 (talk • contribs) 11:41, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , I am going to leave some information on your talk page about editing while you have a conflict of interest, the best course is to leave the requested changes on the article's talk page so that an editor without a COI can assess and implement the changes.  Grey joy talk 12:32, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Need Help
Hello Greyjoy, Thank you for contributing to the page created by me Foloosi. A user is trying to get the page deleted, which is clearly an attempt of Overzealous Deletion. He left warning messages on the page and created this discussion Articles for deletion/Foloosi. It is my 4-hour hardwork. Being a startup evangelist, I tried to acknowledge startups which are innovative. And the company is also recognised by Forbes, for which I also have added a citation within the page. Please help. Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by IamHaseeb (talk • contribs) 22:17, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , I am not sure what sort of assistance you are hoping for. The page has been nominated for deletion and a conversation is now taking place, if the page passes notability requirements users will state so and the page will not be deleted.  Grey joy talk 05:52, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Talk page
Hi Greyjoy, I would like to clean up the talk page on the young blood transfusions article. Is there a way to do this? There are a lot of unreferenced statements, incorrect statements, settled arguments, etc. Please reply on my talk page or on the young blood transfusion talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.6.209.89 (talk) 07:30, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Conversation continued on editor's talk page.  Grey joy talk 07:37, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

I've reviewed the page on archiving. I'm going to archive the resolved discussions. Please respond on my talk page if necessary.

Greyjoy, I began archiving the old discussions on the talk page. The size is above 75k so it meets the wikipedia standard. However, Roxy the dog, Bonadea, and Meters have reverted my efforts to archive. What would you suggest I do now? Please respond on my talk page. 210.6.209.89 (talk) 15:09, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Regarding Sports clean-up
Hello Greyjoy ,

Just got an email about this change. Thanks for the cleanup - I guess by accident the top paragraph about a wrestler didn't make it to the latest revision? 

Regards, --Gryllida (talk) 06:39, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Pls stop editing mercy page
You’re editing mercy profile,stay focus on tacha page and leave mercy profile alone,is not mercy fault that tacha was disqualify... stay on your zone Judithhanrankis (talk) 11:06, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , first of all I have no "zone". I edit everywhere. Second you have no right to tell me where to edit and where not to edit. I work to improve any Wikipedia page I come across.  Grey joy talk 11:08, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

But writing bad words and changing stuff to negative stuff is what you do right? Continue Judithhanrankis (talk) 13:55, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I would love for you to give me an example.  Grey joy talk 14:18, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

I saw the agama eke edited by greyjoy, reason i sent you message Judithhanrankis (talk) 14:42, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , I assume you mean the edits at Mercy Eke. I have just had a look over them and they are all good edits helping to address the maintenance issues listed at the top of the article. Would you like to explain what part of the edits you disagree with?  Grey joy talk 15:36, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Are you an administrator ?
Are you an administrator, if you are, I'm not undoing revision, but restoring the revision from a massive vandalism from Илија Гуск user, who has stopped but came back outside his account please see his massive removal of 6200 caracters addeds et go back to a very old and obsolete version https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_aviation_shootdowns_and_accidents_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War&action=history Please answer rapidely. In his vandalism "revision" even the total of aircraft is not mathematically correct.


 * A few points I want to address here, first you don't need to ping me. This is my talk page and I get notified when a message is posted here. Please remember to sign your talk page messages by adding four ~'s at the end. No, I am not an admin. If you had read the 3rr warning you would realize it doesn't matter who is right or wrong, you are still edit warring and are both likely to end up losing the ability to edit. Take it to the article's talk page and sort it out there.  Grey joy talk 14:21, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for help, but look again he came again with his vandalism. It's the same guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_aviation_shootdowns_and_accidents_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War&action=history

HarimauFury (talk) 15:39, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Talk page message
Hello, I am the one that deleted the talk page on the Diesel page. My apologies. I had posted the original question and I felt it had been resolved so I was trying to clean up the "clutter" of the otherwise empty talk page. I did not know standard protocol for how that was supposed to work. Feel free to delete this off of your page once you have read it. Thanks or the friendly warning! Have a good one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.87.204.185 (talk) 16:57, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * All good mate, it's all a learning experience.  Grey joy talk 05:25, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey, is there any way you can help
Hey, is there any way you can help my article Draft:Australian Communist Party (2019) be moved onto main pages?

OMalloney 05:43, 9 April 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Occer Malloney ACP (talk • contribs)
 * if you believe that the draft is ready to be published you can place at the top and someone will review the draft. However I would strongly suggest finding some more reliable sources for the article as there looks to be a lot of primary and Facebook references at the moment.  Grey joy talk 05:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * On closer inspection a large part of the article appears to have been copied and pasted directly from the ACP website, which is an issue.  Grey joy talk 05:52, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

The reason for the copy paste is because it is the best information available on the party currently on the specific topics in the article. Does that mean its not going to be accepted OMalloney 05:57, 9 April 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Occer Malloney ACP (talk • contribs)
 * Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, any copyright violations tend to be deleted pretty quickly. You are welcome to use the information provided by the website, but not to copy and paste from there. There is more information about copyright on the message left on your talk page. Additionally Wikipedia prefers non-primary sources, sources which are not directly connected to the article subject.  Grey joy talk 06:01, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Im a party member that has the permission to use the information provided on the website for the article, so i dont see there being a copyright issue. The reason why were only able to use primary sources is due to there being no secondary sources due to us being relatively newly formed, and those other sources that make reference to us are done by outside parties that have a conflict of interest and are promoting slanderous/false and misinformed revisions of the events that had happened. There are other articles on wikipedia that are using primarily primary sources too? OMalloney 06:06, 9 April 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Occer Malloney ACP (talk • contribs)
 * Ok so there are a couple of issues here; if you have permission to use the text from the website there are instructions on how to do so on the message left on your talk page. If you are a party member then you have a conflict of interest and should read Wikipedia's COI guidelines. And finally if there is a lack of coverage in secondary reliable sources your article will most likely have issues with Wikipedia's notability requirements.  Grey joy talk 06:10, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

We should be able to organise arround the COI and Copyright issues, but i hope the notability issue wont be trouble for us due to other organizations of our ilk like the Communist Party of Australia (1971) only use Second/third party sources that are over a decade old and otherwise use their own sources. Hardly qualifying for notability OMalloney 06:31, 9 April 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Occer Malloney ACP (talk • contribs)
 * There may be issues on other articles, but the draft we are discussing is entirely primary sources.  Grey joy talk 06:33, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

So your saying that since we are under a year old and generally wont have those second/third party sources that we are virtually unable to be accepted on wikipedia? It dosent seem very friendly to newer organizations wishing to put down their information onto wikipedia for sake of those who would like to research and know more about a party that has already been mentioned on other articles one of them being a large junction article on socialist orgs in australia Socialism in Australia OMalloney 06:55, 9 April 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Occer Malloney ACP (talk • contribs)
 * Wikipedia is not a place for "newer organizations wishing to put down their information onto wikipedia", it is an encyclopedia of articles which meet Wikipedia's notability requirements. ASP might meet the requirements at a future date but at this point of time it might just be too soon to create an article. I do suggest continuing to work on a draft (once copyright issues are sorted out) and I will see what I can find in the way of reliable secondary sources.  Grey joy talk 07:00, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Expansion of George D. Lundberg page
At the request of friends of George D. Lundberg, I have written a 2,806-word article about him that greatly expands the current Wikipedia article (and also corrects erroneous information found in the existing stub). This is the first time I have added anything to Wikipedia other than little edits, so I know next to nothing. Can you help me get this page up? Thanks very much, Debora Holmes (talk) 06:46, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Debora Holmes
 * , I had a look at your edits and can't see your proposed changes. Is there somewhere I can review your suggested article? Keeping in mind that all claims must be reliably sourced.  Grey joy talk 06:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your quick response. I will have to continue this discussion tomorrow. Being a professional research editor/writer of 20+ years, I have documented all statements in this article, so not to worry. At the current time this article is simply a Word document. Please let me know how to best get it to you and how to proceed. Debora Holmes (talk) 07:03, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Debora Holmes
 * The best way would probably be to create a new section on your talk page and notify me here when you have posted it. I most likely won't be available tomorrow but will have a look at my next available opportunity.  Grey joy talk 07:12, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Drivetrain Systems International Update
Hello Greyjoy,

I am trying to update the Drivetrain Systems International wiki page and you have reversed the changes I have made due to conflict of interest.

I do work for Drivetrain Systems International so there is a potential conflict of interest however a number items on the DSI page are out of date and now incorrect. What is the best way for us to proceed so we can ensure the information is up to date, correct and represents our current business?

Thank you for your help.

James.
 * Since you have a conflict of interest, the best approach is to put your requested edit on the article's talk page so that editors who are not involved with the company can review them. Make sure that your changes have reliable sources to verify your changes.  Grey joy talk 07:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

A list of requests have been added to the talk page. We will be launching a new business website shortly and I will be adding further requests after this is done.

James.

Thanks for your last updates, I have added some additional comments to the talk page.

James. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesDSIAustralia (talk • contribs) 01:43, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Cats
Hi. I don't think just removing the Category:People convicted of drug offenses in place of Category:X nationality drug traffickers is correct. Just because they are traffickers does not mean they were automatically convicted - then there would be no point for the former. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 13:51, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I would like to think that we wouldn't be tagging people as drug traffickers without a conviction and not every drug conviction is for trafficking. However if you disagree you are welcome to revert, not something I am going to fight you for.  Grey joy talk 05:10, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: You're Only Young Once...
Hello Greyjoy. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of You're Only Young Once..., a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: released on notable label with notable artists participating. Thank you. So Why  07:33, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

on the subject of "Arab Jews"
I realize you were referring to the articles Talk page, but I'd like to enquire as to Wikipedia policy in these matters.

If no consensus can be reached, and Wikipedia claims to be bipartisan, how can one (and in fact, the prevailing) view be blocked while others are allowed?
 * If no consensus can be reached on the article talk page, there are other other methods which can then be looked into.  Grey joy talk 09:44, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Ventor
Helo, i want to Change the Bithday of Ventor. His real Birthday is on 29 of June.
 * , do you have a reliable source for this date?  Grey joy talk 11:08, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Roger
Hello,

I deleted the links because they arent linked to the name Roger.

And I deleted three sentence because they were useless repetitions with no further information.

I lived in Germany and there exists only the names Rüdiger and Roger. Nothing else ist typical for Germany. And the german Roger is not spoken like english or french Roger. The "g" is spoken like in Rüdi-g-er.

Thanks for your work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.216.25.111 (talk) 07:25, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you for taking the time to explain the reasoning behind your edit, in the future the best approach is to explain the removal in your edit summary to help prevent other users from reverting the unexplained removal. I hope this helps. If you have any questions or issues feel free to leave me a message.  Grey joy talk 07:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Marcellus Baz BEM entry
Hi

Thank you for your comments on the article i submitted. I apologise for the conflict of interest issue and I will no longer make edits on this piece. I believe meets guidelines in being factual and not promotional in any way.

I just wanted to raise one point regarding my last edit - I removed the date of birth as this is a particular issue for Baz and the work he does with his charity. I understand it is factual and therefore right to be listed, but please can you advise on whether he can contact someone and request it is removed as it has a potential impact on his work?

Also - is there anything that can be done to get the article re-checked and therefore have the banner at the top regarding the conflict of interest removed?

Thanks so much for your help.

Rose — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoseCartwrightCommunications (talk • contribs) 08:08, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have been digging through Wikipedia's guidelines trying to find an answer for your questions and the closest that I found was here which mentions that if there is a concern with the date of birth being listed it can instead be limited down to just the year of birth. I don't think that helps here as your objection seems to be his age being listed at all. The best bet would be to ask the folk over at the Teahouse as someone there might be more knowledgeable in that area. I will look at removing the COI template from the article and instead placing a connected contributor note on the article's talk page, may I ask if you (or a company you work for) were paid in any way to create/maintain the page?  Grey joy talk 09:28, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your response - really helpful. I will see if they can help.

No not paid - I volunteer for free for the charity so only connected in a voluntary capacity.

Thanks again

Horse Outside
I see you reverted my addition to the Horse Outside page on the basis that it was original research. However, of the points made, the vast majority were simple clarifications rather than original research; for example, the reference to Honda Civics being hot hatchbacks is demonstrated through the links provided, and Mullingar is indeed a town in central Ireland. Hence I have resubmitted my edit with anything that could feasibly be regarded as original research removed. I hope this is satisfactory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thermidorthelobster (talk • contribs) 00:44, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Deleted section (Italians)
I will try to open a thread for the discussion of that section.

Could you visit the "Spaniards" article and recover the deleted ancestry section? It was deleted without seeking consensus. I will try to open a discussion thread on both. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.222.19.15 (talk) 11:31, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , the best approach in regards to the Spaniards article would be discussing and asking for an explanation as to the removal of the ancestry section.  Grey joy talk 11:36, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

But you should recover the deleted content in the absence of finding a consensus. Could you get it back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.222.19.15 (talk) 11:40, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Please be true to your words regarding the deleted content in the Italians article, and recover the deleted content from the Spaniards article. They are identical cases. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.222.19.15 (talk) 11:57, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not interested in getting involved over at the Spaniards article, as I have advised you the best approach is to discuss with the person who removed it. Either on the article talk page or the talk page of the user who removed it.  Grey joy talk 12:35, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

The double yardstick you have is worthy of study.

You have not applied your own recommendations in the Italians article, you simply reverted unilaterally. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.222.19.15 (talk) 12:43, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Greyjoy, 46.222.19.15 is an obvious sock of banned user, thought you might like to know... --IamNotU (talk) 23:54, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Well that explains that, cheers.  Grey joy talk 03:48, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Recent Edits.
I don't understand why I can't add in recent edits about a recent page I have edited. You messaged me, telling me I may have a conflict of interest. I can guarantee that I don't. I'm simply adding something that is factually correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.31.22.160 (talk) 07:15, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , I assume this is regard to Sophia Yin. Your edit summary mentioned that "I was at her house several times, and I know Sophia", Wikipedia considers this a conflict of interest as you should not be editing articles about people you know. In addition your edit did not cite any reliable sources.  Grey joy talk 07:18, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Report to the administrators
Hello, Greyjoy, Can you report this user (User:Chrisbright2044)? He might violate the three-revert rule. Rdp060707 (talk) 09:55, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , the user has been banned and was already reported at the time of this message. In the future if you come across an obvious vandal like this one the best approach would be to report them at Administrator intervention against vandalism.  Grey joy talk 10:09, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Wow, that's great news! Rdp060707 (talk) 13:25, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

What do you think
Thank you for you recent edit on Akunk. It seems editor (User:Supétudiant) is on a deleting sources rampage. I had a closer look at his edit history and it seems he is going through every Armenian village/town, and deleting content using the same edit summary of "No reliable source" (as you restored on the Akunk article). By the looks of it, he is very active today. I can see well over 100-150 similar edits, all removing content. Thoughts? Many thanks, Archives908 (talk) 12:00, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Devi Sridhar
Hi Greyjoy, thanks for your statement. Just to keep you in the loop, the individual who keeps reverting the edit is (in my opinion) quite obstructive and will not accept mention of this no matter how many reliable sources are placed to justify it's inclusion. As you can see from the talk page as well as my own edit history, I have engaged extensively as well as been open to alternative suggestions of terminology firstly by this edit (5 July) and now this edit (30 August). I look forward to your response. Alssa1 (talk) 11:23, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I can see on the article's talk page that a previous RFC consensus was to not include this information in the article. While I appreciate that you have found additional references the correct approach at this point would be to gain consensus to add this information to the article with the new references, as the WP:ONUS is on you since you are the one seeking to include disputed content.  Grey joy talk 11:29, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * What you say is true, to an extent. Markbassett says that it should only be included "if it leads to being fired, or further controversy, or it’s still in news a month from now", I've given two news sources from August which meets his requirements. The other person who disagreed with its inclusion in July was HouseOfChange, whose compromise edit (from 30 August) I have accepted. I think this meets the requirements for its inclusion, do you not agree? Alssa1 (talk) 11:34, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Based on what you have written here you might want to ping Maskbassett and HouseOfChange on the article's talk page to see if they agree with the latest version of this edit. Since another user has challenged the inclusion reaching consensus on the article talk page is the best approach, otherwise you risk a long drawn out edit war with the person who reverted your edit.  Grey joy talk 11:39, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I have pinged Markbassett here giving my reasons. The version you reverted was HouseOfChange's edit, so I think they are aware of the latest situation. In the case of the person who keeps making reversions, that is Anna Laura Simoni who refuses to engage with the issue (as you'll be able to follow from the talk) and I doubt highly that they'll ever accept the inclusion and will repeatedly engage in ad hominems and personal attacks against me as they keep doing in their edit summaries. Alssa1 (talk) 11:48, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Once a consensus is reached for the latest version it will be much easier to deal with users who remove it. Since they then will be editing against consensus.  Grey joy talk 12:45, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Edits on BIT Deoghar page.
Sir ,the Links are for the Clubs and Society's Please allow them as, if you go on BIT Mesra Page you would be able to see them. Wilhak (talk) 06:15, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * External links are not placed in the body of the article, even for clubs and societies.  Grey joy talk 06:16, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

But they have been on BIT Mesra Page, Please see it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birla_Institute_of_Technology,_Mesra Wilhak (talk) 06:42, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * If you look again you will see that the external links were removed from Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra.  Grey joy talk 06:43, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Now, Please tell me how these do Not Violates the Wikipedia Policies , So that I can also do the Following Edits on My page. Wilhak (talk) 06:43, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * They did violate Wikipedia's policies. Which is why I removed them once you made me aware of it. Also it is not your page. Do you have a connection to BIT Deoghar?  Grey joy talk 06:45, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

BIT Mesra is the Parent Institution of BIT Deoghar, We all Come under the BIT Mesra University System Wilhak (talk) 06:53, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok? That didn't answer my question.  Grey joy talk 06:54, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

And, we come under same University and are same Institution that's how I am Connected to that Page. Wilhak (talk) 06:57, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Ok So I have One Request, Can you Please fulfill it. Wilhak (talk) 06:57, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You have told be how BIT Mesra and BIT Deoghar are related, I asked if you have a connection to BIT Deoghar. Do you work there?  Grey joy talk 06:58, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Yeah I am One of the Founders of IEEE Student Branch of BIT Deoghar. Wilhak (talk) 07:00, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I will leave some information on conflict of interest editing on your talk page.  Grey joy talk 07:01, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

And Currently Pursuing My Education in BIT Deoghar, and Look after the Social Media handles and the Webwork. Wilhak (talk) 07:02, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Can you please create a New heading Named as Notable Alumni in our Webpage. Wilhak (talk) 07:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Edit requests can be made on the article's talk page.  Grey joy talk 07:09, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

minor edit
I received your email about inaccurately marking my contribution as a minor edit, do i need to fix that? AdinahB (talk) 11:47, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , no need to fix it. Just something to keep an eye on in the future.  Grey joy talk 23:54, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Bobby Byrd
Not sure how we miraculously avoided edit conflicts there, but I'm happy to leave you to it! Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:45, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The Wikipedia stars must have aligned. I am happy to have a go at it but I doubt I can clean this one up myself. Cheers.  Grey joy talk 07:48, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Article Not Reviewed from 2 months
Hi Grey, One of my friend submitted article on Wikipedia for my client who is director/producer. His name is Joseph Campo.

His article is still in review. Can you please help me if you can review the website and approve it.

I will be very happy if you help me in this. Thanks Gaganmehra93 (talk) 09:28, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I understand that this process has taken some time, however the volunteers who are reviewing drafts are working their way through a backlog of over 3,000 submitted drafts at the moment. The draft for Joseph Campo will get reviewed.  Grey joy talk 09:34, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your fast response. I'll wait for his article to get reviewed soon. Thanks Gaganmehra93 (talk) 09:35, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Category:Conspiracy theories in the United States
Hi,

I note that you’re removing a number of conspiracy theory articles from this category, including in one case in which you assert that an article doesn’t belong in the category because it’s already included under Category :Conspiracy theories promoted by Donald Trump. I suggest that these categories are not mutually-exclusive. soibangla (talk) 18:45, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * As per WP:SUBCAT I have just been moving articles down the category hierarchical structure, if you think that this shouldn't apply you can always discuss turning it into a non-diffusing subcategory on the category talk page.  Grey joy talk 05:13, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

What gives?
Do you have a problem with a change I've made to the Free Rider Wiki?
 * Clearly, as indicated by the edit summary "unsourced and non-notable".  Grey joy talk 06:28, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Facebook links removal?
Unclear why you removed these. Is it against wikipedia policy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidCaldwellUK (talk • contribs) 13:21, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I removed the links from the body of the article and the Facebook links from the external links section as per Wikipedia's guidelines on external links. Hopefully this helps clear up your question, if you have any further questions don't hesitate to ask.  Grey joy talk 15:38, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm unhappy that these links have been removed, especially the Race Catalogue section, as most of these have been in place for some time. Plus, they are there to provide the public with a means to gain further information in this subject, which is part of the role of the Wiki. These took considerable effort to put in place in the first place, and under that precedent (that has been in place for a few years) the additional entries and links were added.

Can you please therefore re-instate the links, at least within the Race Catalogue section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidCaldwellUK (talk • contribs) 07:08, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a directory of external links, and as such I will not be adding them back into the article. The English Wikipedia has over 6 million pages so it is not uncommon for issues to be overlooked however they are addressed when found. Just because an issue was not noticed for some time does not mean that it sets a precedent.  Grey joy talk 07:25, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for helping me out as I try to add to my first stub. Your recommendations on 'Australian Better Families' are helping me understand Wiki more.

Rubypp (talk) 09:49, 9 November 2020 (UTC) 
 * All good, if you ever have any questions give me a shout.  Grey joy talk 10:35, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

November 2020
Dear Greyjoy, Many thanks for your message. I completely understand your comments. I had a series of computer issues this morning and it seems that I uploaded the wrong texts to the Wikipedia page. I clearly was trying to do too many things at the time. I will make sure I upload the correct text later on today. Is this ok?

Regarding the 'Managing a conflict of interest' comment, I am not sure I understand this claim. Can you explain where is this coming from? I imagine this misunderstanding is connected with the previous message?

AlexanderBanchieri (talk) 14:53, 10 November 2020 (UTC)AlexanderBanchieri
 * when a new account pops up and focuses on a single subject (person or business) it's not uncommon for there to be a COI so I just wanted to check and clear it up. Do you know/have any existing history with Gabriella Di Laccio?  Grey joy talk 15:20, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Dear, I don't know Miss Di Laccio or have any history with her. I simply admire her work as I really appreciate Baroque music and she performs a very specialized virtuoso repertoire like other world renowned singers such as Cecilia Bartoli, Joyce DiDonato. If you are a Baroque music specialist and connoisseur you know how rare it is to find performers who sing this repertoire. I simply thought she deserved her own Wikipedia page as the other singers ready had one. Miss Di Laccio has clearly showed that she deserves her page as one can see with all her awards and achievements. AlexanderBanchieri
 * , I absolutely agree that she meets the notability requirements for her own article. One of the main reasons I am concerning about a possible COI is this image, which you have advised is your own work.  Grey joy talk 10:29, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Dear, I took this picture from the mezzanine seat in a concert hall when I attended one of Miss Di Laccio's concerts. I am sure many other people do similar things as I believe this is allowed, please correct me if I am wrong. AlexanderBanchieri 14:12, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , that's fine. Just had to check. I hope you enjoy your time here at Wikipedia.  Grey joy talk 04:01, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Xtreme Triathlon - Web links
Hey Greyjoy.

You'd removed our facebook weblinks from races in our main body of text. But I still want some way of giving our readers the ability to jump to race detail from our wiki, which I think is part of your wiki purpose.

So, before I start doing anything, can I confirm it's ok for us to add weblinks out to the actual race web pages, from our race catalogue section? (We'd previously linked to their fb pages, which I think is definitely against wiki policy).

Dave C
 * As per WP:LINKFARM, Wikipedia is not the place to gather weblinks. Do not place external links in the body of the article.  Grey joy talk 10:43, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Babbar Khalsa
Stop stating misleading and false information on the Wiki page. Validate your correction with an appropriate citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaskeerat2302 (talk • contribs) 10:44, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * In the future please sign your talk page messages by adding four ~ at the end. A majority of the information you keep removing is referenced, if you believe these references are not adequate take it to the article's talk page to reach consensus.  Grey joy talk 10:46, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Update on Soul (2020 film)
Hello Greyjoy,

Thanks for your input on my update to Soul (2020 film). After re-evaluating, my addition may very well have been more than just minor. I will consider this more in the future. Appreciated! DESERTSCHo0L20 (talk) 06:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

What makes something "Challenged for multiple times".
Hello, I'm curious about the note you've left on [|this revert]. As far as the section of the article is concerned, it wasn't challenge multiple times, rather one time by M.Bitton by throwing unproven accusations that the source is from people that wants to push their POV or organizations that want to destroy the reputation of Algeria (He is Algerian). I'm not affiliated with anyone that made the reverts, other than the reverts I've made myself. Regardless, I called for other editors to improve the paragraph. Regards, BlueLight05 (talk) 06:47, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , as per the BRD cycle, if a change is reverted it should be discussed seeking consensus. Not reverted back and forth. You boldly made a change, this change was reverted by M.Bitton (and later by Ohnoitsjamie), and now it should be discussed.  Grey joy talk 06:51, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I discussed Both of the reasons it was removed, including the sock puppet accusation by Ohnoitsjamie. He thinks I'm behind these accounts because I'm the one who made the section. BlueLight05 (talk) 06:57, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * And then you reverted the removal, no consensus for the inclusion of the section appears to have been reached.  Grey joy talk 06:58, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, how do i get someone to check the accounts in question? I think his accusation by itself is present here WP:ACCUSE BlueLight05 (talk) 07:05, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, What stops someone from blocking the inclusion of something by throwing accusations? I'm still learning Wikipedia policies, but i think it's rational that something like this would not be permitted. BlueLight05 (talk) 07:11, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If you wish to discuss M.Bitton's behavior with administrators you can do so at the noticeboard. In my opinion at worst M.Bitton has shown a mild lack of good faith, not enough to really be actioned on, however you are of course well within your rights to discuss this further if you wish to.
 * "What stops someone from blocking the inclusion of something by throwing accusations", depends on the accusations. If they are not considered serious they will most likely be ignored, if the accusations are more realistic (claims that certain sources are not reliable) they need to be discussed and multiple users will assess and reach a consensus.  Grey joy talk 07:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Johannes M. Bauer (entry)
Hello I have authored the entry originally in 2007. I am just asking which parts of the entry you consider to be biased (close to the subject) - I see you made the flag, so I can take a look and re-work it to the suitable standards and the flag can be removed. Thanks a lot, Branislav BranislavOndrasik (talk) 19:49, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Bauer himself appears to have made several large edits in 2010, 2014, and 2019 (hence the tag about "major contributor having a close connection with its subject"), unfortunately due to the lack of inline citations it is currently very difficult to discern which parts of the article are reliably sourced facts and which are COI additions.  Grey joy talk 01:15, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, I will take some time to check everything, add citations and rework the whole piece so it meets the Wikipedia standards. At least to my best ability. Cheers for the clarification. BranislavOndrasik (talk) 15:37, 1 January 2021 (UTC)