User talk:Grimjaw

Awww come on he was always kinda cool.--Cojin 03:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

your a fucking spaz over editing bleach, u need to settle down sometimes, seriously its only wikipedia... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.231.36.81 (talk • contribs).

Whoa whoa whoa don't come at my boy Grimjaw with all that jibba jabba he only wants to put correct information in.--Cojin 00:56, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * lol u fail at life ip guy...i'm the least spazed about editing bleach i just don't let u put in stupid made up crap and unconfirmed stuff from likely fake spoilers. u think i'm bad check out the rest of the editors...they take it out even if its right based on whether or not they like it. or could the crybaby not handle me pointing out the inherant stupidity in some of those recent edits to bleach articles? its just a joke man, don't "spaz" over it lol. --Grimjaw 01:50, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Tenjho Tenge
Hirohiko and Nokimi articles would be very short since they have been in 3 or 4 chapters, but they will most likely play a pivotal role in the plot. So creating an article would be fine with me. I'm almost positive Hirohiko is male by the way the character talks, dress, and the build. Also, so far he has no open his eyes, but most likely his eyes are like his ancestor's which had no pupils or irises. However, I think he could see. Personally I'm looking out for a teenager with the last name of Wani. This would complete the set of the 12 founding familes. Lately I have been fooling with the idea of adding Hitomi Koumikawa to the list of characters. What stops me is that in the storyline she is nothing more than Nokimi's puppet. (Duane543 01:22, 20 April 2007 (UTC))

Just to thanks the great work in Tenjho Tenge! Duane543 was alone in that XP I will try to help now (I used to edit there before, now I have access to TT manga again). - Access Timeco 19:10, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey I noticed that in the manga after the fight with Shin ,Mitsuomi was crying and they had the paramedics come in why didn't they show this in the anime? it wasn't graphic or anything,oh and if anyone has that pic may it see it?--Cojin 21:41, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh my bad I guess I read it to fast.--Cojin 22:37, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I am still getting the manga again, so I can't see past chapters yet. But are you sure about "Souichiro and F" thing? I'm confuse, now o.O And about the members, there is an image on chapter 60 (I've got this one already XP just 'cause is Mataza one XP) and you can see there an image of F around Mitsuomi: only six guys (the one already unknown is probable the Wani leader, I think). About Noriko being a Red Feathers, I don't doubt. But I still think she is not a "F". About characters with an article. No... I think we are good with those ones. And... I don't think we have enough info about Hiro and the girl yet, but... Oh, and something I remembered. Mataza's name: Jushi. It was said in manga? - Access Timeco 23:00, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey I just wanted to say thanks for treating with so much respect on this .Hack wikia I got treated like crap for asking simple questions.--Cojin 04:15, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah it is kinda hard to find someone who knows so much about Tenjo Tenge,thanks though.--Cojin 04:22, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

--First: sorry if this message will be hard to understand, my english is not great XP-- Yeah, you are right! I don't know why I was so sure about F being White Feathers, then o.O Oh well... I will make a change in the order there, then, and create the "Main Antagonists" area. Since there is a chance that Noriko is the sixth F, I was wrong stating that she wasn't a member -__- but we also can't say that she is on the group, since that was not said. So, with the Main Antagonists area, she and Kouhaku (that, in fact, is not a F) will have a place to be (and the F, just like de Enforcement Group, can be a sub-area) Also, about Mitsuiro, I will put she back on the "supporting" since we don't know if she is a part of the Enforcemente group (the paper on ch99 only lists Kabane as a new member, the other names are: Mitsuomi, Emi, Kagurazaka and Bunshichi). - Access Timeco 14:57, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We need to talk about the organization of the List of Tenjho Tenge characters at the Talk page before it turns into an edit war. This also allows other editors to be see it openly without having to search between user talk pages. This will give them a chance to understand the consensus, thus avoiding future problems.  (Duane543 16:23, 23 April 2007 (UTC))
 * Why not add Mitsuiro. The article will grow when she becomes part of the plot again. (Duane543 02:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC))
 * Grimjaw, have you ever look at another Oh! Great's manga Air Gear? (Duane543 21:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC))
 * Chapter 104 English translation is starting to be posted (Duane543 00:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC))

I asked User:Fizzman about Rikudou since the editor is a native speaker of Japanese. This is the reply: "...リクドウ　is the katakana equivalent of the kanji form of 六道. Incidentally, the kanji symbols are actually Rokudou, but since it's used in a name, I'm guessing it's pronounced Rikudou.  Japanese names written in kanji are next to impossible to figure out sometimes!..." So there you go. (Duane543 00:05, 2 May 2007 (UTC))
 * Fix this sentence: Myouun idicates he even used it to locate enemies. (in the Hirohiko Myouun Kabane article) I would, but I can't tell what your trying to say (Duane543 00:13, 2 May 2007 (UTC))

Grimjaw, you taking a break? Anyhow Chapter 105 should be coming out soon. (Duane543 02:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC))
 * Chapter 105 translation posted (Duane543 04:08, 31 May 2007 (UTC))
 * Nokimi Mayutsubo seems to get turned on by battles or by Hirohiko power (see ch. 108 pg. 12 black bar). (Duane543 22:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC))

So you know
Plot Summary of Tenjho Tenge was nominated for deletion here. Just as I thought would happen.(Duane543 18:27, 28 June 2007 (UTC))
 * Are you really surprised? If you look at your archive messages here, you will see I warned it could happen. It was not just Tenjho Tenge that the plot got deleted, there was also Eureka Seven, Hayate the Combat Butler, Love Hina ect... At least AfD gives editors time to discuss and work things out. Unlike some Wiki Admins that give no forewarning before they do things like delete pics or they follow their own special policies and revert others work on articles that they know little about. Like you said, their are editors you want every little thing cited. It is dumb because you should only have to cite points that are not your own or on wiki to prove your writing the truth. It is not to be used on every little commonsense thing. Where is society going if people can not figure what cat means in the context of a sentence. (Duane543 16:07, 7 July 2007 (UTC))

Anchor Link Bot
The reason the bot made those inline comment is to alert other editors that if the change the header it could cause links from other articles (in Tenjho Tenge that are a few) to fail. If you looked what the bot does it actually following the Wiki Manual of Style of section management. Because of this I going to bring back to inline comments. (Duane543 16:17, 11 July 2007 (UTC))

Tenhjo Images
I'll help with the updating rationals. I also feel that the main characters images can be reused that are already used in their own articles can be used on the character list. Also what is your take on getting rid of the text in the talk balloons in the images? (Duane543 16:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC))


 * Please don't remove the non-free reduce tag. The these images are too big and have to be rescaled for fair use. This is so the images don't hinders the production and distribution of series, and/or related products and/or merchandise of the copyright owners. All the tag does is alert editors to make that the images need to be smaller. This tag also alerts editors like Pekaje, who help in resizing the images (I know from experience that Pekaje does a good job). As long as their is a decent rational, I don't believe they are in any danger of being removed. (Duane543 00:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC))
 * All Tenjho Tenge images have fair use rationals. All is left is to reduce some of the bigger images and remove the text, but they can more then like be done when you have time. (Duane543 03:33, 21 September 2007 (UTC))

Reply
I found out the 109 was out because I had to check to be on some made up family some IP created at the main article. Personally I have not seen it as well as 108, only the text for 108. I image Tenhjo Tenge is getting towards the end of the series and that why the releases are coming earlier. (Duane543 02:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC))
 * Grimjaw, please edit tone down your comments made at the Talk:Tenjho Tenge page (mostly your use of the word fag because it can be seen as a personal attack). The editor using IP 201.249.227.116 most likely will never see it anyways. (Duane543 (talk) 17:34, 20 November 2007 (UTC))
 * Thank you for toning it down, but your missed the word faggotry in the header. Anyhow I finally got around to looking at 108 & 109. I agree with you that in the Feudal flashback that the character is Senhime who picked up Reiki after Shōjō dropped it. Did you understand the statement made by Hirohiko made to Souichiro/Sōhaku about taking care of his family 400 years ago, because I didn't. (Duane543 (talk) 17:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC))
 * My theory about his statement is that Myouun Kabane death was faked and his consciousness has been has been transfered into the each one of the Kabane family heads through his eye although his consciousness is dormant most of the time. This explains why Hirohiko took out his eye when he became the head (to make room for Myouun's) and this also would explain the jump in power (Hirohiko told Mitsuiro when they were children that he had to the ceremony (to take out his eye) because he was too weak.) In order to do this Sōhaku had to be involved. If true, the statement makes sense because it was Myouun (in Hirohiko) thanking Sōhaku (in Souichiro) for keeping him around for so long. That is a little messed up. Also what I gathered from 109 is that Aya considers Souichiro the last piece of the puzzle, but first Masataka has to release him from the chains on fate(I.E. Sōhaku control). As for chapter 110, I have not seen it, but it seem Oh! Great has a lot more story to tell considering all the lose ends in the plot. (Duane543 (talk) 16:43, 22 November 2007 (UTC))
 * Translated Chapter 110 is out. (Duane543 (talk) 03:22, 25 November 2007 (UTC))
 * Masataka will break the wheel, but I don't think Aya will end up with him. She will only a "weapon" for him. The only way I see it happening is if Souichiro dies. All the story's foreshadowing points at Aya ending up with Souichiro. Also it seems Souichiro does not fight her advances like he did in the past. I remove your statements in the Maya article about Reiki awaking the Amaterasu Dragon's Gate. Right now it is a guess. I think Maya always had the Amaterasu Dragon, but the mark was not their because she could not control it (Senhime need a great barrier to control hers). It seem like some other characters knew about it like Shin, Nokimi, and most likely her father. Also if Reiki was the cause the awakening of her power, why did it take so long? I'm not saying it was not a factor, but we should leave guesses out of the articles. I see that you added Sakon Shima character to the character list. I'm fine with it, but it seemed premature considering he so far has just appeared in the newest chapter. (Duane543 (talk) 17:50, 25 November 2007 (UTC))

Main Tenjho Tenge article
I'm trying to upgrade the main article to GA status. If you want to help out I will be doing most of the work in my sandbox. I image it will designed in a similar way as the Suzuka (manga) article. (Duane543 01:36, 2 December 2007 (UTC))
 * Hey, Grimjaw, How do you feel Tenjho Tenge's main article possibly getting to GA status. I only ask because GA might cause problems later on in the form of some editor(s) having a problem with the character articles revealing some plot. I would also like your opinion on what to do with the The Rising Phoenix (12 Founding Families) and the Nature of Chakra (Dragon's Gate) sections of the main article because the main article is getting bigger and the these section no longer work well with the rest of the article. Also what do you think about changing some names to how they appear in the offical English manga and anime, such as the "Enforcement Group" to "Executive Council". Lastly when you have time, please remove the black bar the Sohaku image that Cojin recently posted. (Duane543 (talk) 22:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC))

Your insistence on violating our policies
If you continue to force images back into List of characters in Tenjho Tenge against policy I will recommend you be blocked. Your stated intent to revert as much as these images are removed is revert warring. This will stop. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * says the guy who refused to discuss the issue and was the first to state any attempt to change it would be reverted...--Grimjaw (talk) 04:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Final warning
Regardless of whether you're right or wrong in the content dispute about images, your behaviour is unacceptable. Your stated threat to continue reverting is disruptive as your behaviour would violate Edit war, and the gross incivility in this comment is not acceptable in a collaborative encyclopedia. Please desist this behaviour, especially the edit warring or I will be forced to block you. Thanks,  Daniel  00:18, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * my comment was to another user, not to hammersoft. freedom of speech. regardless the war was started by hammersoft feel free to read the talk page on the article we are "warring" about. i tried to discuss it and was responded to with, change it and i revert it.--Grimjaw (talk) 00:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Firstly, there is no right to freedom of speech on Wikipedia. Secondly, whether you're attacking someone using incivil language to their face or in a discussion with another user is irrelevant, as everything on Wikipedia can be viewed by anyone. Again, please desist the attacks, incivility and the revert warring immediately.  Daniel  00:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

attacks were ceased after i spoke to duane...thats the only attack i made on hammersoft. again hammersoft decided it should be a war, its totally un fair that i ask him if certain things would be acceptable i get a change it and i revert it in response and i'm viewed as the douchebag starting a war. i didn't even change anything in the article until after my attempts to talk it out were met with a revert war challenge --Grimjaw (talk) 00:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

statement by hammersoft after i tried to discuss it with him: "The removal of individual images for depiction purposes will continue. If you do not like this, please take it up with the Foundation. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC) "

my first change after hammersoft delete images...time shows its clearly AFTER he decided to he was right come hell or high water. (cur) (last) 23:28, 3 January 2008 Grimjaw (Talk | contribs) (44,680 bytes) (despite me asking no reason was given for the removal of images already in use) (undo) --Grimjaw (talk) 00:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Message
Grimjaw, Don't get your self blocked because of that sock puppet, Hammersoft. I'm going to undo your changes so you don't get blocked. Please don't revert back. I will send another message soon. (Duane543 (talk) 02:12, 4 January 2008 (UTC))
 * I understand that editing at wiki is getting to point that it is not fun because a few editors confuse policies with guidelines. I was close to quiting myself. Maybe we should have taken that one editor advice (I don't remember which talk page it was on) and created a Tenjho Tenge wikia. Which at times makes one think that their is a conspiracy to have the fiction articles migrate from a nonprofit wiki to a profit wikia. Considering that wiki's most popular articles are either sex or fiction (see |here).    That is beside the point, I think we should try what the editors of Bleach did on the List of Bleach characters. They used group pics as much as possible (even if their were only two characters in the image). I say let Tenjho Tenge do the same. I will look for the group pics. Here are some of the locations of the pics that I though might work. For "F" Volume 9 page 120-121 (Finding a image of Sōhaku Kago & Noriko Shindayuu Inue together should be easy), the Juken Club- Chapter 66 cover, ect... What do you think? As for the name changes, I did it to have the names closer to the English translations used in the CMX manga or anime. Also when I checked 執行部会 (aka enforcement group) myself on a translation program, it was translated as 執行部 = executive(s) and 会 = meeting; assembly; party; association; club. This was all done to have the main article a chance at GA rating, which it is now nominated. Also, check out this userbox, I believe it says everything you are feeling right now.(Duane543 (talk) 03:02, 4 January 2008 (UTC))
 * I say we try. It shows others that are trying to compromise. This also may attract editors that are more moderate than Hammersoft. (Duane543 (talk) 03:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC))
 * If that is not a kick in the nuts!!! Betacommand also war edits and only you get blocked. All this wiki lawyering has drained the fun out editing fiction articles because some outspoken editors expect all articles to be up to at least GA quality. Most of these same editors never add anything to make the articles better, so they have no clue what they are asking out of others. They rather add the missing secondary sources templates and put them up for AFD because it is easier and makes them feel important. Screw that!!! As for the alternative, I'm damned if I am going to start a Wikia article so a company can profit from what editors have done for free. (Duane543 (talk) 02:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC))

yeah beta bullies and incited editwars refusing to talk it out; but standing up for your beliefs and not letting him be a self-appointed admin acting as the nfc-SS means u need to be blocked. sorry i confused wiki for a place that encouraged discussion. hell i get blocked and the recommendation is to talk it out...looks to me like you and me are trying to talk it out and hammersoft and beta just want to edit war. --Grimjaw (talk) 05:44, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Apparently this line was added to the nfc toward the middle of the page: "The above applies to any enumeration or summary of a group of items related to the article subject (such as a list of people, companies, anime characters, literary or musical works, and so on), regardless of whether the list is in prose, a table, bullet points, contains subsections, or is in any other format. It may be acceptable to include a single image that portrays multiple enumerated elements from the list, or at most two or three separate non-free images portraying items from the list, provided that all other non-free considerations are met." Right where no one can see unless they are looking for it. I did not see it, but Random832 (the admin. that blocked you) did. If Betacommand and Hammersoft cited this there would have been less trouble (even though we would have not liked it). They should have known about it because they more then likely had a hand in the policy change in the first place. Lately wiki has come under the adage "We have to destroy the article to save it". However these editors who have this mentality don't understand that they are also causing editors to migrate to other places or give up. People like that are nothing more then policy pushers and create nothing. Wiki popular now, but how much is it because of Google supporting it. I guess we will see when Google launches Knol. (Duane543 (talk) 17:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC))

Blocked
You have been blocked from editing for in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below. —Random832 00:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

how the hell was that a personal attack? i'm dying to know...he IS a sock puppet. he has a second account called betacommand2, even he admits it. there was no personal attack regardless of my use of curse words. and in the end wiki doesn't even ban profanity so now its even bigger bullshit. the 3RR doesn't apply for nfc right, yeah well it also doesn't apply to vandalism which if u see the edit summaries i felt like i was reverting. for supposedly not being a bureaucracy wiki sure acts exactly like one.

i love that even if betacommand was TOTALLY wrong like not even in the ballpark of being nfc abuse (hypothetically of course), he still wouldn't be blocked for inciting an edit war and blatently refusing to talk it out. i get blocked and it says to resolve it by talking it out etc...yeah he wouldn't even do that, so i was damned if i did, damned if i didn't. now my appeal is rejected apparently cuz i have a foul mouth, which isn't against the rules; and cuz i called a sockpuppet a sockpuppet (gasp a fact on wiki! kill it! kill it!). sorry i should have just kissed ass even when getting the shaft; yeah thats not gonna happen. --Grimjaw (talk) 05:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

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A cat is an animal
A cat is known for being a housepet, and under all obviously apparent circumstances it is indeed an animal, and all of the below:

Animalia

Chordata Mammalia

Carnivora Felidae

Felis F. silvestris F. s. catus

(retrieved from cat, from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) In other words, Animalia Chordata Mammalia Carnivora Felidae Felis silvestris catus. So, from proof right here in Wikipedia, and in the mind of a three year old a cat is ''indeed an animal '' —Preceding unsigned comment added by RayquazaDialgaWeird2210 (talk • contribs) 01:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

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Hi! I'm not sure if you are still around, but I'm merging articles on Tenjho Tenge characters to the main list unless they have info on creation and conception WhisperToMe (talk) 16:09, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

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Noriko Shindayū Inue is up for deletion. I copied the entire edit history of the article to the manga wikia at http://manga.wikia.com/wiki/Noriko_Shinday%C5%AB_Inue  D r e a m Focus  03:51, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

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