User talk:Grimreefa

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Hello, Grimreefa, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Monster Mill, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Monster Mill


A tag has been placed on Monster Mill requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here.  GILO  A& E&uArr;  15:43, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Article deletion
I've deleted the article as WP:G11, as the article was written with a fairly promotional tone. There was still a pretty strong issue as far as notability goes, but the problem here was the promotional tone. By promotional I mean that a large bulk of the biography section was telling people where they could go to buy various albums. It looked as if at least half of the section was "this was released on this day and you can buy it here, here, and here". Not only does that come across as promotional, but it was largely redundant to the discography section. Even besides that, there were some parts to the article that were written in a very casual tone that kind of reinforced the idea that it was promotional.

Now beyond all of that, there was still an issue of notability. All of the sources you gave in the article would be considered WP:PRIMARY sources, meaning that they were released by Monster Mill himself or by someone who is representing him. The links to the merchant sites are still considered to be primary and are considered to be inappropriate to link to in general. What we need to show notability would be in-depth articles written about him in reliable sources that are independent of the artist himself. Reviews would also be good, but they would have to be through places that would be considered a reliable source and I really can't see where he's received any. Even if I were to have declined the speedy, ultimately I don't think that the article would have survived if it had been nominated for WP:AfD. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:23, 8 October 2014 (UTC)