User talk:Grinch22

March 2018
Hello, I'm Meters. I noticed that you made one or more changes to an article, Blue Lacy, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Meters (talk) 02:19, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

March 2018
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April 2018
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to USS Carl Vinson, you may be blocked from editing. Samf4u (talk) 20:20, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to VF-11. Samf4u (talk) 20:21, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

This is the second message I have received in a few minutes. The two Navy pages that I edited were not vandalism. Is someone reading the edits that I made. I changed ship names to the way they should be displayed. As a Navy Yeoman Chief I am an expert at Naval correspondence and the edits I made are just. Now I have two negative marks on here for helping out? I like wiki and thought I would help to make it better and this is what I got for it. How in the world do you expect people to help? Someone please explain the bot actions and the second threat against me when all I did was correct mistakes which it seems you would rather have on wiki than making things correct! --Grinch22 (talk) 20:25, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

By the way I served at both of these commands. I know how a ship and squadron should be referred to. Way to squash the excitement someone had about helping make this place better. Maybe the admins here are more concerned with the quantity of people they bust that they do not bother to check and ensure what they are reverting is correct after time and work went in to making such edits. At the very least you should check with a user and ask about edits which clearly you know nothing about. In one fell swoop the interest has been squashed. Thanks a lot. --Grinch22 (talk) 20:27, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * By capitalizing all those ships names you disrupted the way wiki links work. We are glad you want to contribute just follow the rules. - Samf4u (talk) 20:32, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * And this isn't the first time you have had such edits undone. It does not matter how the US Navy chooses to write the names. What matters is how Wikipedia does it. Meters (talk) 20:36, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

The ship and squadron names in the United States Navy should always be capitalized. That is a fact. So talking about it with me would have been the right thing to do than a bot and yourself accusing me of vandalism and warning me about a ban! I thought wiki would be more advanced than this. It would make more sense to fix links than to leave things incorrect. Isn't that what you strive for is to have things accurate? I do not need or want these warnings on my user profile and now they are there unjustly. Do not worry. I will not be making edits any longer. I am done with doing so. I will just use wiki as I always have and no wonder I have come across tons of wrong information. I am sure people who supplied edits were done the same to. I am always weary about the info here and now I know why it is the way it is. Sad! I wasted a lot of time to make changes to be treated that way. Have a great rest of your weekend. I will not waste any more of my time here. --Grinch22 (talk) 20:42, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

You are correct, this isn't the first time my edits have been undone and each time my edits were correct. Go ahead and do it your way instead of fixing it since your way is broken. Slap in the face to a naval vessel to have someone print their name incorrectly. Good luck. --Grinch22 (talk) 20:43, 1 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Your similar earlier edit here was undone (by a different editor) with the summary Uninterested in how the Navy formats these things; this is Wikipedia. Since you didn't get the point, now you are being templated. I would have called your recent edits disruptive rather than vandalism, but either way you should not continue making these stylistic edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meters (talk • contribs) 20:54, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

First of all I am new here and saw my first edits were reverted and did not see an exact reason why. Just a warning to stop it. If one would have told me that by making ship names capitalized that it messed with links I would have understood. Not only did it not say anything about links on the first go round, it didnt say exactly which edits were causing a problem. All it said was to stop being a vandal. That is not a way to do business. Treat a new person like a criminal and mark their record when they have no idea what they are doing that is wrong and only trying to help. Again I have no interest in making further edits since I am being treated this way but I will be contacting wiki corporate office to voice my complaint. --Grinch22 (talk) 21:02, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Since I didnt get the point huh? Nice way to talk to someone. --Grinch22 (talk) 21:04, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Go read any of the notes by you admins or whatever you call yourselves and what was said. Clearly you both owe me an apology for your course of action and how you communicated with me. --Grinch22 (talk) 21:09, 1 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Every single warning on this page links to the page you were warned for. Sorry, but if you are not competent to look at your last undone edit to the named page and see what was undone you should probably not be editing. You were also pointed to the Teahouse twice, to Questions, to WP:ADVENTURE, to Introduction twice, and to several other introductory pages, and two editors suggested that you could ask questions on their talk pages. If you don't read or follow up on the comments that are left on your talk page, that's on you. Don't waste your time "contacting wiki corporate office to voice [your] complaint". Meters (talk) 21:17, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

More insults? . Contacting them is not a waste of time if you know who to contact and what to say. Good day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grinch22 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Grinch22. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. '' Note: You have indicated you are a member of the united States Navy. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest guidelines before you edit any articles related to the United States military or government. Thank you  - the WOLF  child '' 22:41, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello
Hi Grinch22, and welcome to Wikipedia. I see you're off to a rocky start, but I'm sure that can be turned around. You say you are a sailor with the US Navy, so first let me say 'thank you' for your service. But that said, posting hostile comments, insults and deliberately defying Wikipedia's guidelines is not a good way to represent the Navy here, is it? I bet when you joined the Navy, it took awhile for you to learn all rules & regulations they have, didn't it? And maybe you don't agree with all of them (or maybe you do), but I'm sure you appreciate they are required to help maintain order and discipline. Well, Wikipedia also has policies & guidelines to help keep it orderly and reliable, and it takes awhile to learn them as well. My first edit was in 2006, before I even had an account, and still I don't know all the guidelines here.

Anyway, if several editors tell you the edits you are making are incorrect, and even post notices with links to the policies and guidelines that your edits are in violation of, then there is no point in fighting with those editors, or fighting the guidelines. Just ask yourself, what advice would you give to a new sailor that has made a mistake, and doesn't agree with the Navy regulation he just ran afoul of? Please think about that, and also know this; just because we create and maintain articles about the US Navy, doesn't mean we write them the 'Navy way'. I'm sure your experience could be a benefit to this project, but please consider taking some time to learn your way around, re-think your approach to editing and your attitude towards others and you should do just fine. Have a nice day - the WOLF  child  23:12, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Geo-Art
Hello, Grinch22. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Geo-Art, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available here.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. Bot0612 (talk) 00:02, 4 September 2018 (UTC)