User talk:Grk1011/Archive 6

Newsletter
Looks good. Sims2aholic8 (Michael) (talk) 18:43, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Isis and her Gee
Oh thanks for reminding me of that, I completely forgot I ever wrote it and had a good laugh myself reading that. Isgreatestman-cum-Polishchick was a riot to deal with, and I wasn't thinking much during the kerfuffle (hence I don't remember much). Too bad the guy/chick doesn't seem to give up even though the joke's got old long time ago... :/ Kind, PrinceGloria (talk) 21:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Anna Vissi's wikipedia page
Please stop revising my changes on Anna Vissi's webpage. You have incorrect information and we, as her management team, are trying to update her page by deleting false information(regarding Robin DiMaggio and the new album). Thank you kindly

Nick Sena Maple Jam Music Group —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chocolatefreak99 (talk • contribs) 19:36, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Help with image issues
Thanks for your help on the image issues. I was hoping to edit the original map, however, my computer refuses to let me edit it. I'm at a loss as to what program I require, or what I need to do to get my computer/browser to allow me to edit an image. The help page is not a lot of help to me. Could you help me out, perhaps? Kumorifox (talk) 20:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the referral. Kumorifox (talk) 20:26, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Template work

 * ESC National Year - ✅
 * EurovisionNotice - - Template is fully protected so I can't edit it, sorry. --  [[ axg|undefinedSpecial:Contributions/AxGtalk  |undefined]] 16:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * OK should be fixed. and EurovisionNotice would be " Eurovision Song Contest ". --  [[ axg|undefinedSpecial:Contributions/AxGtalk  |undefined]] 16:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

-- [[ axg|undefinedSpecial:Contributions/AxGtalk  |undefined]] 17:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

LISTEN
No matter if you like or not Vandi,there was and there is a big controversy about the song Thelo which it is almost the same like Clocks.Visit some greek sites (if you speak greek) and see for your self!I am not the only one who claims it. You act like a fanatic fan and this is not encyclopedic. People like pheabus and Vandi destroying greek music stealing others people music and pretending god!We must do something! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boga (talk • contribs) 18:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I think you live out of greece and i live in greece.You are out of reality.I suppose you are a fan from Vandi thats why you insist without see whats going at the greek media and in Internet.I am sending you just a simple google source and you can see for your self. But i suggest you yourself to hear both songs and judge. I really don't have problem every day rewriting the page again and i again.There is nothing personal between me and Vandi or you.I am a music lover and not and idol lover.And because this is unfair for the poor brainwashed greek listeners,i would like to show them the truth. And even if you think that i am unfair,you are more unfair that you ignore the reality of this controversy. In every article of wikipedia all controversies of every artist are written .Why vandi should be an exception?

Best regards

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=βανδη+coldplay&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=θελω+clocks&btnG=Suche&meta= —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boga (talk • contribs) 20:41, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

what sources do you want?The president himself to make an announcement? I will remove the part that the song sounds obvious the same but we must write a small capital about the controversy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boga (talk • contribs) 20:50, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

1986 articles
1986_Eurovision_Song_Contest_entries

They're all done! That took a while! Mike H. Fierce! 21:59, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Great!! though a somewhat random year lol. Can you expand any to possibly get DYKs? I know the UK one could just use a reworded and unbiased review of the final with a source to the show. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 22:11, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The UK is probably the easiest year to do. Iceland has a few sources too from what I saw, but most are in Icelandic. Mike H. Fierce! 22:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK credits
Oops! That might have been my fault. Anyway, I'm not an admin, so I can't change that page either; I will notify Gatoclass, Victuallers, or Borgqueen. Thanks for the heads-up, &mdash;Politizer talk / contribs 23:33, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Songs
Hi there - I was unsure. They are not "titles" as such, I realize - but the translations of titles - my initial instinct was to put the translations in quotes as if to say, "here is the translated form of the name", rather than to say, "here is the title".

As you can tell, I ran out of time before I could complete the work, but I shall do so this morning. All the best. Bobo. 00:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:EurovisionNotice
has been added to EurovisionNotice. -- [[ axg|undefinedSpecial:Contributions/AxGtalk  |undefined]] 20:11, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * As in " " --  [[ axg|undefinedSpecial:Contributions/AxGtalk  |undefined]] 20:16, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * So you want " Category :Junior Eurovision Song Contest articles" to appear only when "contest=Junior" is applied. -- [[ axg|undefinedSpecial:Contributions/AxGtalk  |undefined]] 20:39, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Grk1011. I have a problem with your edit on the article Yia Sena. You changed the y to a g and I'm afraid that that is not the best representation of the album. The album has been spelt many times Yia Sena in its English translations by official record label statistics that have been written in English.

I see on your page that you say you have a near complete understanding of the Greek alphabet and a basic understanding of the language; I however speak Greek as a first language and would like to show you some of the grammatical rules:
 * gamma (γάμμα)/Γ/γ in English = G/g (closest pronunciation = the strong 'g' sound) HOWEVER
 * gamma + iota (γάμμα + ιώτα)/γι/ΓΙ in English = Y or Yi (closest pronunciation = the 'Yi' sound)

This represents the pronounciation of the album the best and has also previously been written this way by Rouvas' former label in English. The only article that has an excuse to be spellt with a 'g' when pronounced 'y' is Despina Vandi's Gia as it was officially registered that way by her label into the English market.

I really think your edit hinders the reader's potential for understanding the article and the album. I don't mean to insult you or start an argument, but when you don't have the best understanding of the language it would be nice if you could be willing to let someone who is fluent in the language help you as you help others in areas of your expertice. Personally, I don't know how to revert the change back to its original form and I would appreciate it if you could please move it back to Yia Sena so it can be most comprehensive to the reader.

PS: I am also an editor of the Hellenic Wikipedia and I can help you any time if you need grammatical help, translating references articles, spelling in Greek etc. Thanks. (GreekStar12 (talk) 10:49, 24 November 2008 (UTC))

Yia Sena vs Gia Sena
What do you mean that is not how it is done here? Where does it state the rule that the Gamma + Iota have to be written GI instead of YI????? Nowhere! Unless you think whatever you say goes. Just because some people (who clearly do not speak Greek very well) decided to write it that way on a few articles doesn't make it right. Lots of Greek American sites make tragic mistakes in the transliteration, to the point where it is almost unpronounceable (such as Greekshops, GreekCity etc.) I am not trying to fight with you, but when you yourself state that you have a basic understanding of Greek I would have liked to help you from a fluent perspective. I'm sure that many others would agree with me about the spelling. For those who have studied Greek literature, they know that the Yi is how scholars would spell it. For example: the article Giannis Parios was redirected to Yiannis Parios because it enhances the readers' understanding. If there is no concrete rule and it helps the readers comprehension of the article, then why not just make it simple. BTW I'm sure WIKI Does NOT have a rule on the transliteration of the gamma. It should really depend on the article itself, and if the album was officially registered Yia Sena by IFPI (ENG), then that's the way it should be spellt. Wiki is about knowledge; how much knowledge can a person gain if they can't correctly pronounce what they are reading about???

Please, try to co-operate because I believe I've been quite nice to you. At least be willing to here my POV instead of claiming that's not how things are done @ wiki. It would make everyone's life so much easier (GreekStar12 (talk) 14:05, 24 November 2008 (UTC))

Yia Sena vs Gia Sena
PS: I was never ignoring u or Greekboy. I responded to all of your discussion messages to me, however, I am reluctant to sharing my e-mail/im with people that I do not personally know and thus only give it to a few close friends and my managers/co-workers. Don't take offense. BTW, if that was what was decided by WikiGreece, then how come Yiannis Parios and other articles have not been touched I don't think selective editing is fair to the wiki community. (GreekStar12 (talk) 14:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC))

MGP Nordic 2008
Have a look at this article before I started editing it and now that I have edited it. Is it eligible for a DYK? ńăŧħăń -  ŧăłķ  19:39, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Jugovizija
Well, You are right, the Yugoslav selection was not called Jugovizija all the time, as I can see fom the Yugoslavian selection for the Eurovision Song Contest article. But what name should I put in the infoboxes for the Yugoslavia in... articles? Should I put all the different names, or just "Yugoslavian selection for the Eurovision Song Contest"?Vanjagenije (talk) 19:04, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Isis Gee
Whets up? Can you protect the correct version.....Isis Gee apparently is getting her result changed as per the article  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Woofwoman11121 (talk • contribs) 22:29, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Categories
Wikipedia albums project clearly states that albums should be categorized by year, artist, record label, then genre and possibly by producer as well. Categorizing the albums by genre does not violate Wiki rules. It is actually suggested as a requirement on the albums page and appears on most English Wikipedia album articles.

Also, the categories are broad (ie Pop, Rock, Blues) so your original research claim does not justify your reasoning. The genres of the albums have been mentioned beforehand in the infobox. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GreekStar12 (talk • contribs) 11:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Music recording sales certifications
Sorry. I reverted your edits because the links in the ref section were broken. Feel free to change what's wrong, but please don't forget to preview your edit before saving. Good editing ! :) Europe22 (talk) 17:39, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Turkish Flame
I warned him that he is violating the policy which says quite clearly how the articles should be named. This is not his first warning, far from it. I think that if he doesn't return his edits by Monday he should be blocked by administration but more importantly his edits must be reverted.--Avala (talk) 15:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I tried taking a more friendly approach since he is a part of Wikiproject Eurovision with me, but he doesn't seem to be stopping the moves. I told him he would be blocked if continued and even provided him with a link to where he could discuss a possible change in the guideline, or get at least a lecture on why it should stay the way it is. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 15:57, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes well I tried with a friendly approach before but to no avail as he continued with disruptive behavior.--Avala (talk) 16:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK reply
I posted a reply to your comment at David Ross (businessman). -- Suntag  ☼  22:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

A Eurovision article that needs your loving care!
This article is in desperate need of an overhaul, and since you're so proud of being Greek :) you may want to tackle this task here. Mike H. Fierce! 07:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * One thing I found funny when I researched her birthdate; her and my mom were born on the same date. Mike H. Fierce! 21:10, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha, I'm a little busy with classes ending and moving back home for the holidays, but I'll take a closer look when I get a chance. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 21:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Good work on the Elpida article! I missed that her name had two "n"s. I added another source, sourced a couple of things and put in another sentence. (I even did the template and you know I hate that!). Tell me if there are more sources, and if there are, link them to me and I'll go through them. Mike H. Fierce! 22:00, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your kindness
And a "Smile" right back at you. -- Imbris (talk) 23:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

RE:MBTA Stations
I didn't realize the issues my edits caused. I moved all of the pages back and everything is back to the way it was. 68DANNY2 (talk) 16:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm just thankful that you stopped me befoe I did all of the stations! Then I would be in a tight spot! 68DANNY2 (talk) 17:01, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

RE:Singles
Well Iv'e tried everywhere to find a redirect for page sections... but you know how much of an idiot I am so i didnt understand how to do it. In the section about redirects to page sections it gave options: So i think you are going to have to describe this one to me man. CyprusPlace2b (talk) 13:19, 22 December 2008 (AEST)
 * Make new page and insert redirect to the page section
 * Insert an anchor (what????)

RE:Singles
Thank god you did that one in time, i was getting a bit ahead of myself there. You realise one of these days you're going to have to explain that to me lol. CyprusPlace2b (talk) 13:21, 22 December 2008 (AEST)

KEJSI Tola
Come on! We don't translate their names. She's totally Kejsi Tola. We've never written Ledina Çelo as Ledina Celo have we? We've always included accents and we've always written their names as their delegation says, eg. Kalomoira -> Kalomira. Until TVSH says she's Casey Tola (which I thoroughly doubt!) she should be written as Kejsi Tola, and if you want me to reference it, I will. ńăŧħăń -  ŧăłķ  15:18, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Err.... it was completely stupid though. I mean come on! =) ńăŧħăń  -  ŧăłķ  18:08, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I watched FIK, and I'm sure they pronounced it Kaysey. ńăŧħăń  -  ŧăłķ  15:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * If somebody can't say an artist's name right, it's their own fault. Wasn't there a major edit war last year over Karolina's name because they changed it so that "everyone could say it". On Wikipedia we use their performers name that is registered by the delegation surely. As the TVSH is yet to say anything about her name and everyone is using Kejsi Tola, including eurovision.tv, so should we. ńăŧħăń  -  ŧăłķ  20:49, 23 December 2008 (UTC)