User talk:Grossmaj

Welcome
Hi Grossmaj, welcome to Wikipedia. I have noticed that you keep removing the templates I leave on the article Order of the Sword and Shield. I ask that you leave these templates alone since they will alert other Wikipedia editors to the problems on that page and will help the page improve.

Thanks,

Josh1024 (talk) 16:59, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Rescue?
Best advice I can give is to read WP:RS and to get Googling... As it probably is notable, I'm prepared to restore it and put it in your user space if it goes. (This is despite a personal dislike for this sort of organisation... Here, I'm neutral.) If this is the case, I can put you onto two ladies who are good rescuers. Peridon (talk) 21:05, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Order of the Sword and Shield
My apologies for placing a speedy deletion tag on this article (the notice of which I removed from here). I think I googled the wrong thing when I ran into it and placed the tag in error, obviously. § FreeRangeFrog croak 22:30, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Order of the Sword and Shield


A tag has been placed on Order of the Sword and Shield requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a club, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Toddst1 (talk) 21:13, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Order of the Sword and Shield for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Order of the Sword and Shield is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Order of the Sword and Shield until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Ryan Vesey 21:58, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

February 2013
Hello, Grossmaj. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Order of the Sword and Shield, you may need to consider our guidance on conflicts of interest.

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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 22:10, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

To All Concerned Parties,

First off, let me say that I am very appreciative for all the time and effort that went into providing your thoughtful critique of this article. I apologize if I have violated any of your rules of procedure. I can assure you, as the contributor of this article, I have put a lot of effort into presenting this academic society in the most accurate and neutral light. It is true, I am involved with this society, and it is also true that I am proud of all the accomplishments of this organization to date. This does not mean that I cannot be accurate and fair. I have built an entire career on giving good, sound, objective advice. I would be the first to hit the delete button to this article if I have portrayed this organization in anything less then a neutral light.

The homeland security academic discipline is very new. It is logical then that this honor society is also new. Two plus years new to be accurate. However, if you check our website,https://sites.google.com/site/orderoftheswordandshield/, much has been accomplished in this short time. At the heart of this is the fact that these students came together and decided to begin the process of recognizing high academic achieving students studying disciplines vital to the protection of our country against future acts of terrorism. The mission of the society is to honor scholastic excellence. The society is not a business. It does not generate sales. There are no underhanded secret motives behind this article, some of which have been implied throughout this deletion discussion. Just because an academic program is new, does not make it anyless noteworthy or significant. The honor society in question was a product of St. John's University. St. John's was one of the first schools to offer a true 4 year undergraduate program in homeland security. Students at the school take pride in this, and wanted to be at the forefront of developing an honor society in this discipline as well. The honor society has been an "in house" secret of the university until most recently. Other schools, such as UCLA, Penn State, and others have expressed interest in bringing chapters of the soceity to their schools. This is the begnning of something extraordinary, especially if you consider that there were no "homeland security" academic programs as little as 10 years ago.

If the decision to delete this article is carried out, I am fine with it. This was merely an avenue to inform the world of a very important and noteworthy academic movement occuring in schools across the country. There are no other motives behind this article. Since I am in the academic business, I believe in educating the masses while ensuring the protection of free speech to all, including those persons objecting to this article.

Thank you again for your patience with my lack of Wikipedia etiquette.

Sincerly,

Jeffrey P. Grossmann, JD Asst. Professor and Program Director Homeland and Corporate Security St. John's University Queens, NY 11439 718-990-7436 grossmaj@stjohns.edu

Speedy deletion nomination of Order of the Sword and Shield


A tag has been placed on Order of the Sword and Shield requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Ryan Vesey 00:06, 5 February 2013 (UTC)