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Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer
Synopsis: ''I reverted an article that had been vandalized. Another user, unaware of the vandalism, attempted to make it look nicer.''

Excuse me, I did not vandalize this article. The reference to porn was already there, and if it is true that the company that owns the rights to this material gave permission for those in the adult entertainment industry to make a film about Rudolph, then you have engaged in whitewashing this article. I was shocked to have the word porn there, and if you would have had the courtesy to look at the history page of this article you would not have accused me of being a vandal. Thankyou.--Drboisclair 19:20, 15 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Looking at the history myself I noticed that an anonymous user recently made the changes that were also offensive to me as well. I apologize for getting angry here. You were merely changing what the anonymous editor put in there. I appreciate your corrections. Thank you. --Drboisclair 19:32, 15 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, you did not place the original reference to porn. Thanks for the response, I merely reverted back before the original placement. It would appear you have an automated bot in place to change porn to adult feature (adult feature.) Unfortunately the change did not distinguish the vandalism, and in fact made the vandalism appear more legitimate.
 * Here is a link on IMDB to the feature in question.
 * Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer (1948)


 * While clearly not an adult feature, the vandalism made it appear as such. Thanks, Group29 19:43, 15 December 2006 (UTC)


 * The funny thing was that this morning I just went to the article to find out which came first the song or the story, and then I was shocked to see this reference to porn. I didn't want to whitewash by simply removing the reference; however, I was concerned about children reading the article. I guess I let myself be duped by a vandal. Oh, well. Thankyou for your diligence and help on this website.--Drboisclair 19:47, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington vs User:Malber December 21, 2006
Synopsis: ''Two users are having a dispute about an admin rights question which escalated into a user block by one of the users which made an Autoblock cause collateral damage to 198.203.175.175, the UHC proxy server. It was eventually reverted by another admin removing the block''

I sent this message to User:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington,

Your block of address User:198.203.175.175 effectively blocks me and potentially 90,000 other users of the proxy at UnitedHealthgroup. The actual number contributing to Wikipedia is probably far fewer. Nevertheless, 198.203.175.175 is not a DHCP address for a single PC.

Could your conflict with User:Malber be resolved without wholesale blocking of the IP address?

Email reply from User:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington,

I don't think so, buddy. I suggest you stop his services; cause he is unwilling to listen and is stupid. Thanks.

Group29 18:24, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise vs User:SparklingWiggle ("sock of User:Malber") March 23, 2007
Synopsis: ''A user on the UHC proxy had been investigated and found to be trailing another user in a form of sock puppetry or meat puppetry. This turned into a user block by one of the users which made an Autoblock cause collateral damage to 198.203.175.175, the UHC proxy server. It was eventually reverted by another admin removing the block''

Group29 15:05, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

User:FisherQueer vs. Albus Dumbledore article - November 9, 2007
Synopsis: ''A newly created user is performing vandalism on the Albus Dumbledore article. which made a Autoblock cause collateral damage to 198.203.175.175, the UHC proxy server.''

I am a little concerned that your network is being used so frequently to launch attacks. You may want to contact your network admin. --Yamla 16:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yamla, I agree that it is a concern as well that some crumbs do bad. But we are talking more than 140,000 unique users on the network (as of my last look at the AD tree) for UHC proxy 192.203.175.175. And that does not even count other transitory users such as alliances. I have never thought that IP autoblock made sense to block out other named users. My opinion is that the autoblock should block the specific named user and anonymous users from the same source. In the case of sock puppets, it should block the known puppets and any newly created users. Anyway, thanks for your help. Group29 18:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Rose Bowl Aerial picture
Synopsis:''The article picture for the Rose Bowl Stadium was swiped from google maps. It took a while for it to be removed from Wikimedia commons. Google aerial pictures are not from the same source as satellite pictures.'' Note about the Rose Bowl: The article contained a picture taken from Google Maps. It was a nice picture, however Google copyright does not permit reuse. An argument was made that Google earth contains satellite photos taken by the U.S. Government. This is still not enough to get it into Wikipedia or Wikipedia. See the

Re: John Wooden's vandal
I have added a final warning to this user, but it seems like his/her class must be over. It's been quiet for about 40 minutes now. Thanks for letting me know. (ESkog)(Talk) 15:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Football coaching records
I had created the list of win-lost records in the Dennis Green article from the four media guides. They were deleted, but the subsequent discussion led me to believe they could go back in without further deletion efforts. I created them as collapsible, but did not put the headers in team colors. Note that a random selection of coaches shows varying types of ways to show the head coaching records: The collapsible setting was put there to address the concern from the discussion.
 * Pete Carroll has separated college and pro, and the college table is color coded with more detail
 * Bill Walsh (football coach) has no coaching record tables
 * Brian Billick has a single table with more detail, links and conference finishes
 * Dick Vermeil does not have his college coaching records showing

WikiProject Marching band
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Train depots in the Twin Cities
I noticed that there's a list of other depots on Minneapolis Great Northern Depot, Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Depot Freight House and Train Shed, Midway (Amtrak station), and Saint Paul Union Depot that all mutually reference each other. I'm thinking that rather than having a list of other depots on each article, we should create a navbox template that lists all of the depots in Minneapolis and St. Paul. There are also a few depots in the suburbs that are listed on the National Register of Historic Places, including the Milwaukee Road depot in St. Louis Park, the Minneapolis, St. Paul, Rochester & Dubuque Electric Traction Company Depot in Burnsville, the Great Northern depot in Wayzata, and the Chicago, Milwaukee and St. Paul Freight House in Stillwater. The Jackson Street Roundhouse (Great Northern shops) and Bandana Square (Northern Pacific shops) in St. Paul aren't depots, but are also historic railroad structures. There's also the Depot Coffee House in Hopkins, which isn't on the National Register.

Anyway, what do you think about creating a navbox for depots and rail structures in the Twin Cities? What do you think should be included? Let me know. I'm also copying Appraiser. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 19:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That is a good idea Elkman. I go by the freight depots at Hopkins (M & St. L and Milwaukee/Soo/CP on the other side of 169) twice each weekday, but it did not add them to the list. I think I opened a can of worms on myself when I thought that all the downtown Minneapolis terminals belonged in the Great Northern Depot. Thanks, Group29 20:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

D.A.R.E.
Hi Group29- Thanks for all the improvements you've been making to the D.A.R.E. article. I noticed that the notice calling for more references was posted in June, since which time many references have been added. Do you think enough have now been added to remove the notice? This isn't to suggest that more may not be needed, but only that the number is probably low at this point. Thanks again.David Justin 19:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks, Group29. I'll try to add some of that materil.David Justin 01:56, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Group29- I appreciate your judgment, which might save additional research time and effort. Looks like the article has now been edited adequately and, like you, I'm about ready to move on. Thanks again.David Justin 19:07, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Verification of sources
Hi Group29- I see your point regarding the Murphy Brown material and have deleted it. Thanks.David Justin 18:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Operation Anthropoid
''A Czech legend exists that states that if one who is not a true Czech King puts the Czech royal crown on his head, he will die in one year and a day. Before his death, Heydrich had put the royal crown on his head. Some say that the day of his assassination was exactly one year and one day from that date.'' -Its true. Its mentioned for example there: or there. Redy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.176.55.136 (talk) 10:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Amusing coincidence
I just realized that we're both people with affinities of writing about LA-based universities and Minnesota --the only difference is I work on more USC and you work on more UCLA. I saw your comment about UnitedHealth Group, are you also a MN transplant? --Bobak (talk) 23:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Category:South Tyrol
supparluca emptied and redirected Category:South Tyrol despite consensus at Categories for discussion/Log/2007 November 28 to leave it alone. Chris (talk) 05:58, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * This SüdTirol/South Tyrol/Bolzano/Bozen edit war belongs in the Lamest_edit_wars hall of fame alongside Kiev/Kyiv and Danzig/Gdansk. I was down as oppose for the category change not because I care one way or another about the name, but because it was obvious that this was merely one front on a bigger battle. I only happened to comment because there was another category I was watching for the same day. Thanks, Group29 (talk) 16:00, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Image:UCLA Bruins Logo.png
As you're the guy who seems to be keeping the UCLA athletic articles in order I thought I'd let you know of this notice we've received at the UC wikiproject:. I don't know if you want to handle it, but probably 21 uses of the logo would be considered excessive. Amerique dialectics 17:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Updated with fur templates. (see Use rationale examples, Logos, Template:Logo fur) Group29 (talk) 18:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

LAUSD (Los Angeles Unified School District)
This material below, which you've deleted is not relevant?--Mig 16:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

wihispertome Revision as of 03:54, 10 January 2008 (edit) WhisperToMe (Talk | contribs) (I believe that this is notable. A celebrity served in the school district and has her take of the lower end schools) ← Older edit Revision as of 03:56, 10 January 2008 (edit) (undo) WhisperToMe (Talk | contribs) m (→History) Newer edit → Line 17: Line 17: On November 16, 2007, the WorldNet Daily posted "Battle-scarred 'sub' in L.A. barrios speaks out" by Migdia Chinea Varela, a screenwriter and former substitute teacher in the Los Angeles Unified School District. Chinea stated that, in many schools she served, the students had no interest in learning, abused the teachers, vandalized property, and joined gangs. Chinea, who was injured on the job, stated that teachers are underpaid and under-appreciated in the district. She described the campuses in LAUSD as a "mess, filthy, dilapidated and without supplies." Chinea believes that the district is taking little action against the conditions rampant in various low income schools. - In 2008 Sandy Banks of the Los Angeles Times reported that vandals and thieves targeted LAUSD schools in various neighborhoods during holidays. + In 2008 Sandy Banks of the Los Angeles Times reported that vandals and thieves targeted LAUSD schools in various neighborhoods during holidays. Banks said that the lack of police presence allows thieves to target schools.
 * It is still there. Look further down. Group29 (talk) 16:34, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Left note on User_talk:WhisperToMe about NPOV problems with Los Angeles Unified School District article. Group29 (talk) 16:41, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't see how it is "POV" - What I did is attach attribution to both statements so that people can judge whether the people who say those things are. See NPOV for more details

Please discuss at Talk:Los Angeles Unified School District. EDIT: I see the information still there, which is fine as long as the attribution is still there :) WhisperToMe (talk) 19:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

UCLA like Life
(moved message from user page written by User:Migdiachinea)

Dear Group99: I'm also a Bruin. Just wished to respond and thank you for your comments on the LAUSD discussion page. As in sports, life has its unexpected plays and subsequent strategic salvage moves. I just wish there was something better I could do to solve these plays without repecussions to me. But I understand everything you've said and I agree with you. Regards to you and whispertome. I often wish for an easier way to communicate. --Mig 17:47, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Notes at the LAUSD talk page
Copying here to preserve:
 * There are some specific concerns with this part of the article.
 * Wikipedia is not a soapbox.
 * As I pointed out (see comment above) when I stopped by this article a year ago, there is a serious Point of view problem with this article. See NPOV. (I did the step of adding the some information about the enforced bussing and segregation. This was an extremely controversial topic and has changed the structure of the city. However, that subject is treated with the facts only.)
 * I was wrongly accused on my talk page of deleting content that is still present in its original form. That is a breach of Etiquette.
 * Wikipedia does not permit original research as user Whispertome has pointed out already. I did not delete the content in question, although I do not believe I would be wrong in doing so. It is an opinion article. Note that Wikipedia is not a link farm for gathering up articles to support a non-neutral position on the article.
 * Wikipedia is not a battleground. User:Migdiachinea, who is also a notable personality with a Wikipedia article - Migdia Chinea Varela -, has a personal grudge and possible legal procedings against the subject of the article. That should not be played out in Wikipedia. I highly recommend that a blog be started outside of Wikipedia and publish more information and opinions there. I would expect that with enough interviews and research that it would be picked up by the Times or Daily news.
 * Thanks, Group29 (talk) 21:44, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Note that I am not a lawyer, but if there is a case between a wikipedia author and the subject of writing, I would imagine the less written the better. Group29 (talk) 21:48, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I apologize
Dear friend -- I apologize for any inconvenience. I may be able to explain later on. Thank you for your patience. I'm also trying to sign properly -- regards to you and WhisperToMe -- Mig (talk) 22:18, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

DYK January 2008
Considering the subject, maybe we should have made this display in backward text :-)--Daniel Case (talk) 05:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI: The DYK listed as Roy Riegels was actually for the 1929 Rose Bowl article, as corrected above, making this your third Rose Bowl article to make it to DYK. I guess that means it was listed the "wrong way" (sorry for the bad pun). Any more in the works? Alansohn (talk) 14:06, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

The College football Barnstar
Never has one person done so little to earn so much. It's amazing what you can find when you have no idea that what you're looking for can't be found. I was researching a source to confirm that Hoisch still held the record, and I was taken straight to the program. It's a great article about a historic game and you deserve the bulk of the WP:DYK credit for creating the article in the first place. I have been to several Orange Bowl games over the years, and while I do enjoy the game (even if it's easier to watch on TV), I always love reading the programs and going through the history of the games. Even though I only needed the program for the one stat, I couldn't help but read through as much as I could of the Rose Bowl and its history. If you have an interesting fact from an article, T:TDYK is the place to nominate a new article you've created. You can do it yourself (just follow the instructions and look at other nominations for example), or feel free to reach out to me for any help. Thanks for the barnstar, for the very undeserved recognition and for all of your work on behalf of Wikipedia. Keep it up, there are plenty of games in Rose Bowl history with no articles. Alansohn (talk) 17:14, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Now I'm embarrassed that I hadn't put two and tow together, but I had also expanded and nominated the 1984 Rose Bowl, another great article. I couldn't help but add details about the scoreboard prank, and it was one of my favorite hooks, describing that one of the CalTech hackers earned college credit for the prank. I'm sure that not all Rose Bowl games are as chock full of historic moments,but they have proven to be a wellspring of DYK listings. Alansohn (talk) 17:17, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

1940 Rose Bowl

 * Tied to Jackie Robinson article Group29 (talk) 00:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

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Rose Bowl

 * Thanks for the improvement on 2009 Rose Bowl article. Why not finish other years, including 1975 USC vs. Ohio State, 1980s, 1970s, etc? Our name is "XXth Rose Bowl", can you change them? We don't call "Super Bowl XXX" by the "year", so we should call the Rose Bowl by their edition too. BTW the next year's BCS-Rose Bowl Championship game will have a ticket price of $275 and the 96th Rose Bowl game is priced at $145. Ucla90024 (talk) 17:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * "Penn State will serve as the home team, based on the alternating format between the champions of both leagues" is wrong, since USC will wear the dark jerseys. The info box for number of games are incorrectly shown, such as 2008, 2007, 2006. The selection is based on coin-toss, I believe. Ucla90024 (talk) 15:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

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Your question at the template talk
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October 2007
By the way, the Level 2 header is a reference to the month and year when the incident occurred. -- Altiris   Helios   Exeunt  12:10, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ultimately, the article was deleted and content was lost. I preserved some of the article at User:Group29/TradewindsGroup29 (talk) 02:33, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

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1956 Sugar Bowl
Hi! I noticed that you made some pretty big contributions to the 1956 Sugar Bowl article. You might be interested in a lot of prose and references on the subject located here: History of Georgia Tech. :) —Disavian (talk/contribs) 22:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Adminship
I've admired your work from afar. Would you accept my nomination for administrator status for you? Chuthya (talk) 16:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the vote of confidence. What swayed you? By the way, I have no idea what is to be gained from being an administrator. Group29 (talk) 17:34, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Odds

 * Thanks on the bowl game odds. I can't understand when someone like user:S96lee15 would say "Doesn't really matter to me which way it's represented" then went ahead reverting them to promote betting and gambling. They know very well that has been the standards for years. They didn't go back and change the other years, after looking over the past years as to how they were done. I took the odds off LA Times and post most of them in bowl game articles. The Times use a "," to separate the teams and the points. Go Bruins!, except basketball not doing well. Bband11th (talk) 22:55, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

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