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Kiaora
Hi James. Just dropping by to say hello and I trust you are feeling much better. Have you ever considered meditation.Peter Mombas (talk) 10:54, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that - I have tried all sorts of things, including meditation. I'm feeling quite a bit better, though still not 100%. I'll get there. Cheers, Grutness...wha? 

hI PLEASE TELL ME HOW WE GET A BANSTAR    --Saudahmed66 (talk) 18:30, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Commonwealth Games
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I've rephrased it accordingly. It frustrates me a little when people make good sentences illogical for a reason that they don't explain! I don't really see why edit summaries aren't compulsory as there are very few cases when they aren't helpful to other editors. Ho hum... Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) Join WikiProject Athletics!  11:13, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Catalonia-geo-stub
Just saw the edit summary on that one. Is everything ok? Doc Quintana (talk) 22:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Consensus was reached on not listing "Spain" as part of the descriptor on this stub template. Regions don't normally have their country listed as well - we keep the number of blue links in a stub template to a bare minimum. In this particular case, too, adding Spain has simply led to edit warring in the past with Catalan separatists. One editor has, however, decided to ignore that on a couple of occasions, despite the comments which I left on his talk page last time he did this. It may well be worth fully protecting the template, or at the very least adding it to the "confirm edits" project (not sure that can be done with templates, though). Grutness...wha?  22:33, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Dunedin architect
Hello James, I see that you take an interest in things Dunedin (as that's where home is) and architecture (e.g. Robert Lawson). I'd like to draw your attention to the new page on Nathaniel Young Armstrong Wales. Maybe you'd like to contribute. I've put a few things on the article's talk page. The page could also do with a better name, but I don't know enough about him to determine what would be most appropriate.  Schwede 66  02:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Green Bay-Titirangi United
Just for your info... something went bizarrely wrong with your recent page move of Green Bay Titirangi as described here-- Club Oranje T 09:24, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Hamilton West
Hi, I see you've made Hamilton West into a disambiguation page. Per WP:FIXDABLINKS, could you clean up the links that now point to the disambig? Thanks, -- Ja Ga  talk 10:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Sigh - looks like the bot request is taking longer than normal. I cleaned up the 80-odd non-Canadian ones; i thought using a bot for the remaining 120 made sense. Grutness...wha?  11:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, if you have a dab with a bunch of incoming links, all of which need to be re-pointed to a single article, let me know. I can fix it with Wikipedia Cleaner quickly. -- Ja Ga  talk 12:09, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, looks like it's been fixed semi-automatically so I've withdrawn the BRFA :(. Apologies for the long time it was taking, normally something as uncontroversial as this should have been approved for a trial in a few days but it went almost a week without anyone commenting on it. - EdoDodo  talk 11:33, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * S'alright. Delays happen. Good to see it's been done :) Grutness...wha?  11:52, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Flag of California
I reverted your change because it gave Undue importance to what is essentially a hoax. I'm pretty sure that if you go back through the history of the article, you'll see similar additions have been deleted by other editors as well. Shsilver (talk) 16:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

heya
sorry to read of your illness. glad to see you're still around, though. hope all is well. Kingturtle (talk) 04:24, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that - yeah I'm back, though not at anywhere near the level of participation in WP as before. Concentrating on trying to improve a series of sports articles and that's about it (keeping largely out of the admin side of things). Grutness...wha?  05:08, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Soccer articles
Hi James,

After tagging a couple of the National soccer league articles for being unreferenced, I thought it best to leave a friendly note onthe author's talk page. Quite a surprise that it turned out to be you! dramatic (talk) 18:34, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * They're referenced. The reference tag is under the table. I'll add more if you like, though. Grutness...wha?  23:50, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. You're right, the text couldv'e doine with more reference info. Grutness...wha?  00:15, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Re spelling - you're welcome. I didn't look at the earlier articles so closely, and I've mainly relied on my browser's inline spelling checker, so it may have missed some "wrong word" errors (I did catch a thee for the). We have a six month old kitten too, and I'm not sure whether its sojourns across the keyboard or sudden insertion of claws into my leg are responsible for more errors on my part. Feel free to self-assess as start/low on any remaining articles. dramatic (talk) 06:01, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Municipalities of Chihuahua templates
I've discovered an interesting duplication. The Template:Chihuahua current only shows the municipalities and their seats, in a rather difficult to read manner, but having correct links. A new template, Template:Municipalities of Chihuahua by new user Ricraider, has a more readable format and a nice locator map; however, it is huge and nearly all of the links are red because it looks as though he mostly copied Anexo:Municipios de Chihuahua from the Spanish Wikipedia. It is true that the article Municipalities of Chihuahua has the map and a full list. The new templaet is only used in the Administrative divisions section of the Chihuahua article. What would you recommend? What should be in a state/province template? How much detail? Some like Template:West Azarbaijan Province don't look bad at all (from a formatting perspective). --Bejnar (talk) 22:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Answered on Bejnar's talk page. Grutness...wha? 

Source?
Hi. You've been making my watchlist work overtime the last few days! ...but that's cool, all I need is a Hide Grutness edits button next to the Hide my edits one ;-) I'm guessing you have a book on the Chatham Cup or something which is producing all these middle initials (and the odd name correction)? I'd guess too that same such gives info like this? If so, it would be pretty neat if you could tack a reference on the end of some of these things; a few of these local heroes are single sourced currently, and another source would a) be further verification and b) potentially give other editors other stating points for improving them further.-- Club Oranje T 11:56, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Answered on CO's page. Grutness...wha? 
 * That's great, I'll look up the book use the template on any I spot.
 * P.s. Thanks for aligning the (footballer) dabs - I'd done the ones I could but nice to see someone with the power come along and align and sort the rest. It just reminded me as I was putting Category:New Zealand female soccer players up for rename. -- Club Oranje T 12:41, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Mark Armstrong
Hi, yes, i removed the redlinks because the list has grown so long. Didn't mean to delete the disambig link to Mark Armstrong though. My apologies. MarmadukePercy (talk) 23:46, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed. MarmadukePercy (talk) 23:57, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Great. Always glad to see another Armstrong added to the list. :-) MarmadukePercy (talk) 00:06, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Disambiguation
In fact I do usually disambiguate all links. I just accidentally thought there was more than one Canterbury College in New Zealand...I only saw what you wrote about the article on my watch list and don't like to be judged. TRBP  talk  09:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Geo stubs
Do you have an example? Rich Farmbrough, 01:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC).
 * Never mind looks like there are 13 such articles, easy to fix. Rich Farmbrough, 01:10, 8 September 2010 (UTC).
 * Fixed, guess you'll find that like this diff, SB moved the stub templates to the end rather than adding them. Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 01:14, 8 September 2010 (UTC).

FAR
nominated The Catlins for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  02:14, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

High-bees
I saw the edit summary and too-quickly read it as "Shibboleths as a sport". Really had my hopes up for a moment. ;) -- Quiddity (talk) 06:25, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Tag-team shibbolething, anyone? :) Grutness...wha?  10:27, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

NZ Geographic magazine as a quality source
Hi Grutness. At the moment Huia is going thru its nomination process as a featured article at Featured article candidates/Huia/archive1. One of the reviewers has queried NZ Geographic (or an article in it by Szabo) as a quality source. I think it's okay to use - perhaps with some qualifications like not using it to back up something too far out of the ordinary. Any thoughts? I am getting a bit worried about the FA since I am only a minor contributor to the article and the nominator seems unable to contribute much at the moment to the discussions. If he doesn't show soon I might have to suspend the FA Kahuroa (talk) 04:49, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Replied on Kahuroa's page. Grutness...wha? 

quick redirect fix
Hello and sorry for barging in- you were the first admin I saw on recentchanges. It seems that the AfC clerk bot, on its trial run, is malfunctioning somewhat. I can't move the article back. Could you do it for me? Cheers, sonia ♫  10:40, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem :) Done. I suspect it's because of the AfC creation template that was at the top of the page, so I've removed it early. You might want to report this in case the AfD bot's playing up a lot. Grutness...wha?  10:49, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and will do. The template's designed to be removed after creation, as it converts nicely. I think a solution would be to prevent the bot from moving pages over redirects, but I"m not sure how hard that would be to implement. (Good to see a Kiwi admin!) sonia ♫  10:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

AfC bot
Hello,

The reviewer Sonia did not remove the tag. The bot is correct there, but I need to avoid moving over redirects.

— I-20 the highway  22:03, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * For clarification: I was editing the page, just about to remove the tag. I hit save and came up with an edit conflict. sonia ♫  22:32, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Commented at I-20's page. Grutness...wha? 
 * All fixed. No more worries are required. — I-20 the highway  00:59, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

NZ music charts
Is there a more reliable source for the pre-1975 charts? Adabow (talk · contribs) 01:16, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Possibly - that's the first one I found online. As I said, though, Dix's book refers to them, and he's a pretty reliable source. Unfortunately he only lists the highest chart positions for New Zealand artists' songs. Grutness...wha?  01:27, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for your help. Adabow (talk · contribs) 01:29, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Gracias!
Por tu nice comment man - it had been one of my recent goals to get to Huia to FA, so it feels great to have achieved it :D Real life is getting busy for me so I will be taking a bit of time off wikipedia for a few months but I intend to return one day with the clear goal of boosting more NZ bird articles up from "start"/"B" class to FA. All the the best to you! Cheers, Kotare (talk) 04:34, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Whoops
Hi Grutness

Sorry about that and thanks for pointing out my mistake with the naming conventions! Should have read up on it properly first. A lot of the redlinks for Suburbs of Hamilton had ',Waikato' so I assumed that was the correct naming.

Cheers Nick —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nzwj (talk • contribs) 23:22, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

NZ naming conventions on Hamilton articles
Would you suggest that I transfer the information over the correct pages? eg. create pages with the correct naming conventions and then delete/redirect on older page. I'm happy to fix that up now, I might as well before I do more work on the pages.

Still getting used to Wikipedia, although it has been a fun experience so far!

(Nzwj (talk) 23:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC))

Whoops
Thanks :) --User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 13:51, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Catlins maps
Hi Grutness, would you please have a look at the latest issue raised at the Catlins FAR? It seems that the two maps were carelessly transferred to Commons with the author field left blank. I seem to recall you created them, but I'm not absolutely sure. If you did, would you please fill in the missing field accordingly? Thanks, Avenue (talk) 17:14, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Karori Wildlife Sanctuary
You may be interested in my comment at Talk:Karori_Wildlife_Sanctuary. Cheers. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 09:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Saw your name on an old AFD and realised I hadn't seen you in a long time. Decided to check if you were still around and saw the note on your user page. So I thought I'd drop by to say wish you all the best and (very belatedly) see how you're doing (you seem quite active again). Hope things are well with you. Happy to see you're still here. Guettarda (talk) 16:23, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:NetherlandsAntilles-geo-stub
Template:NetherlandsAntilles-geo-stub has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Jan 1922 (talk) 14:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

page rename
Hi, could you rename Graham Pearce (Rugby League) to Graham Pearce (rugby league) over redirect when you get a moment please. I messed up on capitalisation and wasn't able to fix this one. Still have a few what links heres to sort for the various Graham Pearces but I'll do them tonight. Cheers. -- Club Oranje T 00:55, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Grutness...wha? 

WikiProject Multi-sport events

 * — Noticed your contributions to the Commonwealth Games. Hope you're enjoying the day :) A NG C HENRUI WP:MSE♨ 09:07, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

A cartographical request
Dear James,

I trust that you are in good stead to carry out a request that will pose no difficulty to your most singular talents. If you could be so kind as to emulate the cartographical excellent in your work on the Otago railway trail map, now used for those newfangled bicycles, for a little article of my own. I have taken it upon myself to document the machinations of some rather misguided gentlemen for a Haast-Hollyford road and the article that I have penned would be an outstanding work if graced with a map.

Yours

& etc
 * Alan Liefting
 * Christchurch

-- Alan Liefting (talk) - 23:20, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Dear Alan,


 * How could I ignore such a charming request? I hope that you find the map at File:HaastHollyford.jpg suitable for your requiremeents. If there are any changes you wish to it, please let me know - hopefully, I will be able to accede to any such requests. I look forward to seeing the article once you have applied your expertise to it.


 * I remain, yours, +c,


 * James Dignan (User:Grutness)

Dear James.

I congratulate you on your rather swift work and I am in your eternal debt for such timeliness. If only my perambulation on such matters were not of a tardy nature. Do take an opportunity to inspect the article that I have submitted and pass judgement upon the veracity of the text.

Yours
 * As Ever
 * Alan Liefting

-- Alan Liefting (talk) - 01:33, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Road
Whoa, I just noticed the duplicate articles. I'm from the US, so I have no idea. As you are a Sysop, I trust your judgement. But, sure I'll take a look to see if anything catches my eye. :)-- Talk tome (Intelati) 05:36, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


 * the only thing I saw in my quick check was the "Pros and cons of a Haast-Hollyford road" section. Seems alittle POV to me. Other than that, it looks good. Thanks-- Talk tome (Intelati) 05:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

South Island Nationalism
I left a reply directed at you on the Talk:South Island nationalism page. I would love for you to make a reply, thanks. Teroamahai (talk) 05:18, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I stopped dealing with that page ages ago, when it became clear that discussion wasn't getting anywhere, leaving any decisions on it to uninvolved admins. I am perfectly willing to abide by whatever decision those admins see fit to make about the page. I'll have a look and comment, though. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  09:14, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I'll post this message in this section because it is about South Island nationalism. I was wondering if you could change the protection on the page to semi-protection. The protection is too strong of a response to what has been happening. It's been over a fortnight and the other admin does not appear to have gotten involved at all. If you don't change it then could you at least get another admin to look into this protection situation?South Islander (talk) 10:41, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll get another admin to look at it. There's no point in semi-protection, since none of the problems are coming from anons. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:01, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Question regarding stubs
Hi Grutness! I just stumbled across Category:Orissa geography stubs and wanted to ask for your opinion before I nominated its subcats for upmerging. None of the 30 subcats are anywhere near 60 articles, and from the appearance of both the Orissa cat and the main India geography stubs cat, none of them have a snowball's chance of making it to 60 anytime soon. Upmerging all of the cats to the Orissa geo cat would make that cat have around 210 articles in it - is this too many? Or do you have something you would recommend doing other than upmerging? Thanks! Dana boomer (talk) 15:13, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Replied at Dana boomer's talk page. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  23:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Allright, thanks. I'll nominate them for upmerging right now. Dana boomer (talk) 00:50, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

RMS Niagara
My dad was on the Niagara when she went down ,he was working some where in NZ on a forestry project I think and was on his way back to vancouver. Fred P —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.152.54 (talk) 02:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting! Thankfully there were no lives lost. My dad would have been in the early part of his service at the time - he later served on the HMNZS Leander. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  04:03, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Colombo Street
Thanks for the improvements; I can't object to solid work being added to an article in this condition, and I always appreciate having someone who's significantly closer to "local" than the rest of us. Nyttend (talk) 11:16, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Hello
Saw you on my watchlist for the first time in seemingly years, so thought I would just say Hi! Hope all is well.  Giacomo  08:42, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

University of Waikato
Would you take a look at recent edits to University of Waikato please.- gadfium 21:28, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Richmond
Hi. Glym apparently wants to push the limits again. When you come on, feel free to do the enforcement thing. -- Club Oranje T 05:43, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Sigh. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  06:59, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Four Main Centres
Hi Grutness

I totally agree that Dunedin is part of the 'four main centres' in a historical context, for its huge historical and cultural importance in New Zealand. However, I think the term 'four main centres' is a little bit antiquated. In most cases, I've seen the term 'main centres' used because we don't have four clear standout main centres anymore. Hamilton and Tauranga both have larger population size than Dunedin, and are significant cities within the Waikato and Bay of Plenty region, as Dunedin is to the Otago Region and the lower south island in general.

Most of the links refer to Dunedin's historical status as one of the main centres. The Te Awa link refers to the four main centres of 1900, Matthew Bannister's essay refers to the four main centres in the early 1980s, police link refers to a police program in the 1950s etc. None of the articles refer to Dunedin in a modern context as one of 'four main centres'.

Typically, I usually try and question these statements, being a Hamiltonian :) Maybe there is some different wording available, or at least other links that refer to Dunedin as one of four modern New Zealand centres. Considering Hamilton zone has roughly 55,000 more people than Dunedin, it's harder to justify Hamilton not being a main centre nowadays..

Cheers --Nzwj (talk) 05:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, a couple of them do. The one indicating 2003's weather in the four main centres is pretty up to date. If you want more references that give national organisations, government departments and the like which refer to the four main centres in a modern context they're pretty easy to find: here are some -, , , , , , ...


 * A lot of organisations simply refer to the four main centres without defining which four they are (assuming that everyone knows it means Ak, Wl, Ch & Dn). I can understand a Hamiltonian's reluctance to admit it (probably the same would be true for someone from Tauranga), but the historical and geographical reasons are still important ones, even if Dunedin's not as big as the other two centres. Mind you, Hamilton's likely to soon be a southern suburb of Auckland anyway, now that they think they're city's so super... :/ Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  09:57, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Template:Māori-stub
Just wondering whether you are okay with the mass delinking of stub templates one user has embarked on. I kinda see his reasoning but I'm not sure it it's good or bad. PS re your comment just above on Auckland, the supercity was a bulldozer that appeared on the horizon that no one had any chance of stopping. Whether it's super remains to be seen haha. Kahuroa (talk) 17:26, 13 November 2010 (UTC)