User talk:Gryffindor/Archive14

Vandalism
Pax tecum. May I know why exactly you are vandalising (or so that in which it appear so) the Emperor's article?

Kaiserlicher Ritter (talk) 03:50, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Global account
Hi Gryffindor! As a Steward I'm involved in the upcoming unification of all accounts organized by the Wikimedia Foundation (see m:Single User Login finalisation announcement). By looking at your account, I realized that you don't have a global account yet. In order to secure your name, I recommend you to create such account on your own by submitting your password on Special:MergeAccount and unifying your local accounts. If you have any problems with doing that or further questions, please don't hesitate to ping me with. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 23:54, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Re:Twelve_Symbols_national_emblem
Hi Gryffindor, thank you and a Happy New Year to you too! I'm much grateful for Sodacan's efforts. However in my own opinion there could be a few more tweaks for the historical/cultural accuracy. I would look into it and provide some suggestions when I got some time. --Ericmetro (talk) 16:52, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Gryffindor, sorry for this belated reply. I wish that I could create a coloring sample with graphic historical sources for reference, unfortunately I'm quite busy in real life these days. I wish I could be back soon. --Ericmetro (talk) 14:45, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Japanese Imperial Family
Hello. You moved the pages of the Japanese Imperial Family without any discussion. As an administrator it was better to a start a discussion on the talk page. Your reason for changing the titles was the official website of Imperial Household Agency, because it refers to them like this: HIH Prince/ss X. Well on Wikipedia the royal family members' articles are titled like this: "Name, Prince of X". British royal family's website also refers to them by their titles like HRH The Prince of Wales but on Wikipedia his article's title is Charles, Prince of Wales. Most of the articles of royal families are titled like this, so it is a kind of rule. Even Japanese Wikipedia includes the names of their royals on its articles' titles. So please move these pages to their previous titles. Thanks. Keivan.f Talk 19:17, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * To make it clear Aiko, Princess Toshi is a good title because it combines her name with her title of Princess Toshi. The same goes for the rest of the family who have titles. Prince William is the "Duke of Cambridge" but his name is combined with his title.--Hipposcrashed (talk) 16:10, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Emirates
Hiya

You've moved Sharjah to Emirate of Sharjah and Ajman to Emirate of Ajman. It might have been nice to have a talk about such a big move before performing it. Both Emirates form part of the seven-emirate Federation, The United Arab Emirates. Each of the seven emirates (including Abu Dhabi and Dubai) are referred to exclusively (in roadsigns, maps, text, websites, government statute, legal documents, news media) by their names - Dubai, Sharjah etc. and never as Emirate of Dubai or Emirate of Sharjah. Although they ARE Emirates (although, perhaps perversely none have an Emir, the ruler is referred to simply as the Ruler), they are not called Emirates.

Any chance you'd consider undoing it?

BTW, I called Sharjah Fort 'Sharjah Fort (Al Hisn Sharjah)' because that is the formal title of the fort, applied locally. It's called, by the local government authorities responsible for it, 'Al Hisn Sharjah Fort', which would make the article unsearchable for the average English user, hence the choice to use its English title but include the Arabic version too. If that makes any sense! :)

http://www.sdci.gov.ae/english/sharjahfort.html

Korso
Hello,

In this edit almost eight and a half years ago, you wrote that the Grand Hotel, Vienna was centrally located for the Korso. Now I just translated the article fi:Korso to English as Korso and came across the article about the hotel. Vantaa is a bit far away from Vienna so I don't think you meant the district. I changed the link to Korso (restaurant), because all I found by Googling for "Korso Vienna" was a famous restaurant called Korso an der Oper. Was this what you meant? J I P &#124; Talk 19:21, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Please stop this silliness...
It's not a personal insult that the two pictures of yours are not as well suited as the two pictures of mine. It's simply harder to see when there are patches of very dark and very light in the same photo. Edit warring over this is getting nowhere. If you'd like, start an RfC on the article talk pages, display the alternate images, ask the question neutrally, and see what the consensus is. BMK (talk) 01:38, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I set up RfCs myself on both articles. We'll see what happens. BMK (talk) 03:51, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Parthenon gif
Fallschirmjäger &#9993; 14:35, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

FYI
Have nominated for deletion. Informing you given that you the image that is the subject of discussion. I suspect that your interests in the topic are related purely to the graphics, rather than the history. If so, feel free to ping any user you believe to be the originator of the underlying flag design. Abecedare (talk) 19:47, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Carl Nielsen
Thanks for your interest in the article, Gryffindor. Sorry about the reverts of Biography/Life. I have now had time to go through the biographies of the other FA composers and see that while most of the recent ones have a Life section, you are indeed correct that several others have a section headed Biography. I think that within a "biography" it is probably more logical to have a Life section. Maybe we can keep it like that for the rest of the TFA day and rediscuss on the talk page? We have been spending most of our time reverting vandalism. Your edit was much more in keeping with seasoned experience. Hope this doesn't upset you too much.--Ipigott (talk) 19:19, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Osotspa
I'm wondering why you reverted my deletion of essentially unreferenced material at the above article. The only reference is to the company's own website, which is not a reliable source. Thus it is my understanding that anybody can remove this unreference material. That should be the end of it, but if you want to find independent references, please go ahead and add them and put most of the material back.

I say "most", but actually it almost all looks like advertising to me, so maybe you should check whether it is straightfordward unbiased info first. In any case with two rock solid reasons to delete the material, I'll revert you.

All the best. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 03:25, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Gryffindor, to explain a bit. There has been a bunch of paid editing on the Osotspa and related articles, so it is being watched pretty closely for promotional editing.  Badly sourced or unsourced content, and promotional language, are not going to stand.  I hope that makes sense.  Jytdog (talk) 03:33, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Feuerwehrmann listed at Redirects for discussion
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Proposed deletion of Eisuke Tachikawa


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Salam al-Bey
Hi. User:Tounsimentounes had the right intent when he moved the page to "Salam el-Bey". The title here is a genitive phrase (Hymn of the Bey) as opposed to As-Salam al-Malaki al-Urduni which is a noun followed by two adjectives. However, the title should be Salam al-Bey with al- instead of el-, since that is the standard transliteration. Cheers Abjiklɐm (tɐlk) 00:51, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

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Timeline of Nancy, France
Hello, I'm M2545. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Timeline of Nancy, France without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; I have restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks.

History of Nancy
You created the new article History of Nancy on 22 January, but so far have not add much of substance (except for moving the entirety of the pre-existing article Timeline of Nancy, France). I would recommend you return the Timeline of Nancy, France to its previous state as its own article, and continue working on the separate history article. Timeline articles are lists, and history articles are prose essays. Thank you for your cooperation. -- M2545 (talk) 16:23, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

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Datok Keramat listed at Redirects for discussion
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I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Celestinesucess. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Echizen ware, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Celestinesucess (talk) 08:50, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Echizen ware
Hello, Gryffindor,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Echizen ware should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Echizen ware.

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks, Celestinesucess (talk) 08:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

June 2016
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ANI notification
There is a discussion at ANI regarding your involvement with the Coat of arms template. Regards, Only in death does duty end (talk) 12:39, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

9th Jebtsundamba Khutughtu
Dear Gryffindor, When you created this article, you wrote "He was born as Jampal Namdol Chökyi Gyaltsen on the tenth day of the eleventh month of 1932 near the Jokhang Temple in Lhasa, Tibet."

With ref "Central Asiatic Journal, XLV:2, 2001, "The Life and Lineage of the Ninth Khalkha Jetsun Dampa Khutukhtu of Urga" by Fabian Sanders, pp. 293-303. " I was wondering if this mean 10 november 1932, or correspond to tenth day of the eleventh month of a Tibetan year. If it correspond to a Tibetan year, it may be important to specify which one. Thanks Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 13:55, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. I do not know either. I suppose this is in the reference you used : ( http://www.jstor.org/stable/41928266 ). --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 17:29, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Page 293, it is correct, water monkey year. --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 08:39, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Anna Christina Radziwill for deletion
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Cliff Lee
The current (recent?) MLB player is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Cliff Lee", over the potter and other baseball player. I've asked your move be reverted. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:05, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Title and first line of a couple articles
Please come participate in these two discussions:
 * Talk:Emperor of Japan
 * Talk:Imperial House of Japan

Thanks! ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 22:16, 4 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Please stop edit warring. Your latest edit is pushing toward WP:3RR. As an administrator, you should definitely be aware of such things. Stick to the discussions above so a consensus can be found. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 19:54, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

August 2016
I know WP:Don't template the regulars but, Your recent editing history at Emperor of Japan shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Arita ware
Care to give any REASON before reverting me? Johnbod (talk) 21:24, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

The 1000 Challenge (Turkey)
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French proper names and italics
I noticed you italicized the title of the Wikipedia page Menus-Plaisirs du Roi. In the article Maison du Roi in The Dictionary of Art, the names Maison du Roi and Menus Plaisirs du Roi are not italicized. In fact, it is uncommon to italicize French proper names like this in English-languare sources. One can usually distinguish between French terms that should be italicized, such as hôtel particulier and a French proper name, since in most mainstream English-language sources the latter is capitalized as though it were an English proper name. It is rare to find an English-language source that both capitalizes and italicizes French proper names. So the same is true for the article Maison du Roi. Italics should not be used for either of these article titles. --Robert.Allen (talk) 21:28, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * We should follow the practice found in mainstream English sources, not a Wikipedia editor's unsubstantiated opinion. --Robert.Allen (talk) 06:38, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Municipalities of Trentino, German names
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Alfonso de Borbón Dampierre, Duke of Cádiz listed at Redirects for discussion
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House of Croÿ move
Hello Gryffindor, I see you moved House of Croÿ recently to just "Croÿ" and made the lede similarly short. Any particular reason for this? Would you complain if I moved it back to the old title? It seems very abrupt to just talk about "Croÿ is an international family". Like, Kennedy family doesn't say "Kennedy is an American family." SnowFire (talk) 03:55, 27 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Ping on this? I'm going to move it back to the old title if you don't have any objections.  SnowFire (talk) 17:26, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Tuileries Palace
I noticed you removed the definite article from the lead sentence, i.e., "Tuileries Palace..." instead of "The Tuileries Palace...". I'm wondering why you removed it. The name is not, for example, like Buckingham Palace, where the definite article is usually omitted. Is that what you were thinking? "The" is commonly used before" Tuileries Palace" in most English-language sources: see a Google search for "Tuileries Palace". I think we should follow the practice most commonly found in English sources. Or were you thinking of the lead sentence as an encyclopedia entry, where the definite article would be omitted. (Since you did not remove the definite article in the remainder of the article, maybe this is what you intended?) However, the lead sentence is not an encyclopedia entry: it is a complete English sentence, so the definite article is included when it would ordinarily be used in an English sentence. (For example, see the lead sentences for Metropolitan Museum of Art or ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Solomon)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) R. Guggenheim Museum.)--Robert.Allen (talk) 20:10, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Someone who knows linguistics might know the answer. I myself can't explain why "the" is used for one and not the other, but that's apparently the way it is. I usually try to rely on the books used as sources to determine these things. --Robert.Allen (talk) 23:43, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * In most cases the definite article also seems to be used for Luxembourg Palace. Examples include:, , , , , , . I did run across a counterexample, the Michelin Guide: , which may be enough to prove the rule. --Robert.Allen (talk) 05:28, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

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New Request
Hello, please can you delete this page, cause I wanna complete the renaming but I forget to suppress make redirect. Thanks--<font size=:"3" face="Script MT Bold" style="color:black;">Alaa )..! 08:04, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks (Materialscientist) deleted it!--<font size="3" face="Script MT Bold" style="color:black;">Alaa )..! 08:18, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure thing! Gryffindor (talk) 09:44, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

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Please use edit summaries
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Please use the edit summary to explain your reasoning for the edit, or a summary of what the edit changes. You can give yourself a reminder to add an edit summary by setting. I realise I'm "templating a regular." But at least two other editors have asked you to do the same to no avail. I'm hoping the third time may do the trick. It's frustrating to have to click on individual edits to have any idea of what you're doing on a page or group of pages. Thanks. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 11:05, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Gobo (lighting)
Per WP:BRD, if a change you've made is reverted, you are not supposed to revert to your preferred version. You should open a discussion on the article talk page.

Your edit summary of "no, YOU go find references" is particularly egregious. When you're asked for references for a change you've made it's your job to provide them.

There is already a discussion about the expansion on the talk page (centering on "between" vs "before") - If you don't start your own section I will add this issue to that discussion.

And, as others have pointed out - please use a meaningful edit summary on every edit. It helps other editors' tasks immensely. Thank you for your understanding. Jeh (talk) 16:26, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Work/website
Hello. On this diff, which is correct? I changed it to website but it was changed back by another editor. Thanks --<span style="font-weight:bold;font-variant:small-caps;color:#FFFFFF;background-color:#F49259;letter-spacing:1pt;">Jennica ✿ / talk 07:36, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!
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Imperial Crown Style
Hi Gryffindor, will you please attend to some comments I left for you at this articles talk page, and work out a better way to collaborate. I don't mind discussing how to improve the article with you, and I don't mind handing over to you, if you don't work that way. But I do mind you making broad changes to material, that other editors and myself have made without consultation. Thanks Dr.khatmando (talk) 12:49, 17 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for coming to the discussion it was very helpful. I want to let you know that I appreciate your support and input. Dr.khatmando (talk) 01:35, 18 July 2017 (UTC) Dr.khatmando (talk) 01:35, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Kakiemon elephants
I was curious why the need for this disambiguation? It seemed just fine without the parentheses. Note - I am not familiar with the subject matter so please excuse me if I have missed something obvious. Thanks. --Jameboy (talk) 00:02, 18 July 2017 (UTC)